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<siwica> so in this case I can call 'foo()' which otherwise would not be possible?
<waxjar> zenspider: like i said, just preference i guess. i don't really have a reason
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<centrx> siwica, correct
<waxjar> also, it fits on one line usually :p
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<siwica> centrx: ok, thanks!
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<zenspider> ZOMG: minitest-bisect version 1.1.0 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2014/09/minitest-bisect-version-1-1-0-has-been-released.html
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<Guest92066> zenspider: bisect seems a little extreme for tests
<Guest92066> surely it would be easier to just practice test isolation
<Guest92066> I have never found test isolation hard
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<gr33n7007h> Is there anything in ruby to do this from python "\xE8\xBE\x81b\x8A\r\xE8".encode('hex') #=> 'e8be81628a0de8'
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<shevy> probably .pack or .unpack ?
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<mozzarella> >> "\xE8\xBE\x81b\x8A\r\xE8".unpack('H*').first
<eval-in____> mozzarella => "e8be81628a0de8" (https://eval.in/190467)
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<gr33n7007h> mozzarella, shevy Thank you so much \o/
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<shevy> wow
<shevy> he even know which code to use
<shevy> he has a big brain
<shevy> for a mozzarella
<shevy> yum yum yum
<shevy> so tasty
<shevy> all food nicks should be banned from IRC
<centrx> mozzarella used to be a noob, now he is #1
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<davidcelis> mozzarella has evolved into mozzarella di bufala!
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<shevy> ewww
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<shevy> bufalo mozzarella has this distinct smell
<davidcelis> lmao if you don't consume solely buffalo mozzarella
<davidcelis> and nothing else
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<siwica> where do I find a change log for recent ruby versions?
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<hakunin> i've sort of not realized before that grouping multiple types of the same thing under a module is wrong use of modules. grouping parts of the same thing under a module is right. opinions? is this a good realization?
<davidcelis> example?
<hakunin> Person::David, Person::Max - wrong; Person::Heart, Person::Lungs - right
<hakunin> (contrived example, but to get a point across)
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<hakunin> i have many of these cases in my app, like PricingScheme::QuantityDiscounts, PricingScheme::PercentDiscounts
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<hakunin> these both just happen to be interchangeable, doesn't mean they should be grouped under a namespace
<zenspider> siwica: in the code repo
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<siwica> zenspider: do you have a link for that?
<hakunin> if a gem is introduced with a pricing scheme, it won't be putting it under my namespace…
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<zenspider> hakunin: "wrong"?
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<hakunin> zenspider: it started causing some pain in certain contexts
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<mechanicalduck> hi
<mechanicalduck> In ruby erb template:
<mechanicalduck> <% if @myvar -%>
<hakunin> generally, the idea behind multiple things of the same kind is that they are purely duck-typed, all they need is interface adherence, and placing them under a module is an extra boundary that restricts organization unnecessarily
<mechanicalduck> this checks whether it is undef
<mechanicalduck> But how can I also let it check whether it is false?
<mechanicalduck> So I want that the condition only passes when 1) the variable is not undef and 2) the variable is not false .
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<mechanicalduck> Can I do this somehow?
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<mechanicalduck> anyone? :D
<mechanicalduck> this innocuous erb question?
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<hakunin> mechanicalduck: this condition will only pass if @myvar is truthy
<hakunin> by definition
<mg^> yeah I was trying to figure out if this was a trick question
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<mechanicalduck> ok, thanks
<mechanicalduck> mg^: It wasn't a trick question :D
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<siwica> what does a construct like "foo do ... end" do in comparison to "foo each do ... end"?
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<zenspider> mechanicalduck: defined?(@myvar) is how you check undef, not if.
<zenspider> if you want to check that something is SPECIFICALLY false, just ask it: @myvar == false
<zenspider> if you want to check that something is falsey, just use it in a falsey context
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<zenspider> siwica: the latter isn't ruby
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<siwica> zenspider: What the first construct do exactly?
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<zenspider> calls the foo method and passes it a block
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<gr33n7007h> why does this still print duplicates? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4061ed85ff058c14f52f
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<Wolland> and pkt[63].ord > 0 ? no idea what's doing overall though
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<Wolland> also pkt[36...42] vs pkt[36..42] gr33n7007h
<Wolland> estra .
<gr33n7007h> Wolland, let me check didn't see that
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<Wolland> it's in few places, I guess make sure you mean to have it
<mozzarella> gr33n7007h: I think you meant to print *outside* the loop
<ghanima> anyone familiar with celluloid
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<gr33n7007h> Wolland, pkt[36..42] -> pkt[36...42] fixed it been going over that for about 20 mins :)
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<Wolland> :) awesome
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<gr33n7007h> mozzarella, print what outside the loop?
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<mozzarella> well I take it you're wondering why you're getting duplicate values although you're using a set?
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<gr33n7007h> mozzarella, I was getting duplicate values due to pkt[36..42] <-> pkt[36...42] being different in every packet
<gr33n7007h> but I see where you're coming from :)
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<jackjackdrpr> i'm new to ruby how can I do compounded conditionals. say unless (x = w and q != y) or (x != w) then do this
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<centrx> jackjackdrpr, unless (x == w && q != y) || (x != w)
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<centrx> jackjackdrpr, what you wrote above will work too, but it is better to use && and || instead of and an or for an if-statement because of subtle differences (order of operations)
<havenwood> and you can drop the parens
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<havenwood> though they can add clarity
<nobitanobi> hey guys, I am getting stuck on how to test a Stack module: https://gist.github.com/novito/d0d023720a54d03bd725 - I am not sure how to pretend that the @stack has actually elements
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<nobitanobi> any suggestions on how to do this?
<jackjackdrpr> thanks for the quick response I guess puppet templates might be handling it differently
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<zenspider> gr33n7007h: put parens around the include? arg
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<zenspider> also, variables are _awesome_. you should use them
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<gr33n7007h> zenspider, done all of the above thanks just a quick question whats the difference between pack('C*') and pack('c*')
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<gr33n7007h> havenwood, Thanks
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<gr33n7007h> ah C 8-bit unsigned / 8-bit signed no wonder it wasn't giving me a negative number
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<gr33n7007h> can anybody make anything out of this "\x94\t" it should be 2147 or an integer 1-13?
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<Radar> It's a hex character, followed by a tab.
<Radar> "148<tab>"
<Radar> gr33n7007h: ^
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<centrx> *three hours pass uneventfully*-)
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<kj_> Hi
<kj_> all, Myself Karamjeet, KJ in short. I have one issue, need help on that note.
<kj_> I install ruby and rails through rvm
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<kj_> everytime If i want to use rvm then i have to give ' source /home/wahe/.rvm/scripts/rvm'
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<kj_> is their any way to rid of this
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<elaptics> kj_: sounds like you haven't installed rvm properly
<elaptics> did you follow the installation instructions exactly?
<kj_> yes
<sevenseacat> no
<kj_> :o :(
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<elaptics> kj_: check through this page http://rvm.io/rvm/install
<elaptics> kj_: I presume you don't have that source line in your shell's profile
<kj_> yes
<kj_> how can I update shell files ?
<elaptics> yes, you do, or yes you're agreeing with me you don't?
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<kj_> Yes I have to update shell file
<kj_> But I don't know which one
<sevenseacat> the one it tells you to
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<diegoviola> finally recompiled my kernel
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<diegoviola> Linux myhost 3.17.0-rc4 #4 SMP Tue Sep 9 05:42:51 BRT 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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<dawkirst> hi, I have a class that takes a file path to a JSON file and parses the contents. in my specs, how can I test that my class successfully raises an error when trying to parse malformed JSON without having to actually have a file with bad JSON inside?
<elaptics> kj_: well that depends on what shell you're using
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<elaptics> dawkirst: why not just have a file with bad json inside?
<dawkirst> elaptics: guess that could work. would such a file then typically live somewhere inside /spec?
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<elaptics> dawkirst: I typically use spec/assets
<dawkirst> elaptics: perfect, thanks :)
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<balance> hi, how is this |f| called? Would like to read more about this http://pastebin.com/rTvRZB4J
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<elaptics> balance: what do you mean, how?
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<Mon_Ouie> balance: It's used for the arguments of a block ('|' is sometimes called 'pipe')
<Mon_Ouie> or parameters, I should say
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<Mon_Ouie> File.open(…) do |f| … end means you create a block with one parameter ('f') which you can use inside the block (the '…' in my example)
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<Mon_Ouie> File.open calls the block you passed it with the file that it opens
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<balance> Mon_Ouie, thats clear, but why |?
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<Mon_Ouie> Why do we use + for addition? We just picked a symbol.
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<sevenseacat> i'm going to start using % for addition.
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* sevenseacat nods.
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<sevenseacat> 10 % 2 = 12. oh yeah.
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<elaptics> Mon_Ouie: that question is too philosophical for this time of the morning :)
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<balance> Mon_Ouie, there mustb e a reason why they didn't just use f but |f| it's not why this symbol but why a symbol. why not just f. maybe there are several combinations which do several things. there are several kind of additions e.g. with references etc. or +=, so yeah, it's important and a good question.
<Mon_Ouie> Because 'do f end' is a block that returns the value of f
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<elaptics> balance: the other form of writing a block is also like: File.open {|f| .... }
<balance> Mon_Ouie, thanks. block was the name I was looking for.
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<elaptics> balance: in that case you need a separator to know what bit is the difference. Plus there's also the case when there are multiple parameters to a block
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<balance> elaptics thanks, i'll go and read the docs :)
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<sagittarian> Mon_Ouie, it's a christian conspiracy
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<zenspider_> balance: because of smalltalk.
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<balance> zenspider_, ?
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<zenspider_> smalltalk blocks used goalposts for block vars
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<balance> zenspider_, ah u mean the language
<zenspider> yes
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<zenspider> it's an odd question tho, I have to say
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<zenspider> "because" is just as good an answer
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<alskdju> let's say I have a loop that is iterated 1 million times, and I'm using something like "result << row" to create the final "result". Would it make any difference (in terms of memory usage) if I define "row" outside the iteration or if I define it on each iteration?
<DefV> Benchmark it?
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<alskdju> DefV: I will try to reproduce the issue locally... the ram usage on a live server is growing fast on a large file upload
<shevy> alskdju an assignment is some call to code, and doing so in every line of the loop will be slower than doing it once outside before hitting the loop
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<shevy> that is not what he described
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<alskdju> DefV: how about the ram usage?
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<shevy> not sure you can get this with the Benchmark module
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<maasha> methinks ram usage can be monitored with the time command - not the bash builtin, but /usr/bin/time
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<maasha> /usr/bin/time -v perl -le '$a = " " x 10000000'
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<alskdju> thanks guys
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<alskdju> is there a more efficient way of appending a value to an array? (other than "<<" )
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<ccooke> alskdju: what do you mean by "efficient"?
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<ccooke> (and how is << deficient?)
<Mon_Ouie> There isn't, but there's a more efficient way to add 1 million elements to an array than calling << 1 million times
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<Mon_Ouie> (e.g. use Array.new(1_000_000) { |i| … } to create the array with the right size immediately)
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<ccooke> hmm. Now I'm curious as to the efficiency of, say, array += [ one, million, items ]
<mahtennek> how do i run 2 variables of 2 results in 1 data structure?
<alskdju> hmm, I wonder if creating the array with the right size and then setting the values at each index would be faster or more memory efficient than appending to []
<Mon_Ouie> That creates a new array, it doesn't change existing one. It can immediately allocate an array of the right size though.
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<ccooke> mahtennek: what you mean isn't completely clear, I'm afraid. Could you explain further?
<Mon_Ouie> It probably would. When you use <<, the way it works is the array has a size and a capacity. When the size reaches the capacity, it reallocates the array buffer to make it bigger (e.g. multiplies it by 1.5)
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<mahtennek> sure. i am actually calling a method that returns an enumerated result. vms = $virtual_machine_service.list_virtual_machines, and cloud_svc = $cloud_service_management_service.list_cloud_services
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<mahtennek> i would want to combine these 2 together so i can combine the results into one
<alskdju> Mon_Ouie: so, even if we don't know the size of each element beforehand?
<Mon_Ouie> "Tehe size of each element"?
<Mon_Ouie> The*
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<alskdju> AFAIK when creating arrays in C you need to specify the size of each element
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<alskdju> so the compiler knows how many bytes to allocate to the array and its elements
<Mon_Ouie> Yes, that's not how it works in Ruby. The array doesn't contain the element itself, it contains a reference to that element.
<Mon_Ouie> Each element within the array takes the same amount of space no matter what it is.
<alskdju> oh, cool
<tobiasvl> it's like an array of pointers in C
<tobiasvl> basically
<tobiasvl> except that you don't need to know how large the pointers are either
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<alskdju> thanks guys
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<masterkorp> hello
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<masterkorp> can anyone point to me to apllications that use the em-http-request library ?
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<srinath> srinath
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<srinath> hi
<tobiasvl> tobiasvl
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<srinath> Hi all
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<atmosx> hello
<atmosx> anyone has used groupdate gem?
<atmosx> I'm trying to figure why doesn't work for me :-/ https://gist.github.com/atmosx/7cc01bc16cf576f43b89
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<cougarten> hej, I'm no ruby guru and want to get the sass game running to compile my css.
<cougarten> I installed sass and executing "sass" from the terminal in ubuntu gets me " this error: "/usr/bin/env: ruby_executable_hooks: No such file or directory"
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<ddv> cougarten: how did you install ruby?
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<cougarten> ddv, oh thats a while back... I don't remember...
<cougarten> maybe via RubyMine
<ddv> cougarten: via apt?
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<cougarten> either apt or RubyMine did it
<ddv> I don't RubyMine installs ruby for you...
<ddv> +think
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<cougarten> oh ok
<cougarten> than probably apt
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<jhass> cougarten: try gem pristine sass
<ddv> I think you should see a physician because you got signs of early alzheimerz disease
<cougarten> give me a second, if i find a passable text editor with build in sass support I'll just use that one and we don't need to bother more :)
<cougarten> haha, yes, i should, most defenetely
<cougarten> jhass, did somethang (restored all the sass versions) but did not change the error
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<jhass> and with gem pristine --only-executables sass ?
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<cougarten> jhass, this changed something, might work now. what did it do? (think you!)
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<cougarten> jhass, i googled my * off for half a day trying to find a solution :)
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<cougarten> it works, thank you so much. I as close to going back to windows where my set-up works
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<cougarten> ~was
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<jhass> it basically repeated the installation step for adding the sass executable
<cougarten> ok, why ever it was missing... thanks again :) how comes you help people here?
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<sdegutis> How do you use Slim by itself?
<sdegutis> The docs don't have a simple example of this somewhere.
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<jhass> cougarten: how comes you don't?
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<cougarten> jhass i try to keep my karma equal, but I'm no expert at anything :)
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<jhass> see, hanging out here and trying to solve other peoples problems helps you getting an expert on some stuff ;)
<cougarten> but i help people a lot also, with all the computerstuff and some wordpress here and there :)
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<sdegutis> Oh, found Slim::Template.new(f).render(self)
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<cougarten> i see :) We'll I'm not a programmer at heart. If I'll some day have no job I'll become one :)
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<cougarten> ah, sorry for me english...
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<shevy> what markup or templating systems do we have in ruby?
<shevy> - kramdown for markup
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<tobiasvl> erb, haml
<tobiasvl> redcloth (textile)
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<Hanmac> shevy i rewrote a bit again with two new commandline options https://gist.github.com/Hanmac/cb9e13ff220e4f31e13a ... now knew are "--gemgroup" for specify if you only want some groups and not all of them in the graph, and "--only-gemfile" with it you can do that only the gems of the gemfile/groups and its dependencies are shown, not all installed ones
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<shevy> we need less GemTree and more wxwidget tree!
<shevy> I hate OptionParser so much
<shevy> opts.on("--[no-]only-gemfile", "Shows only gems which are part of the Gemfile") do |og|
<shevy> how do you obtain that description Hanmac?
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<Hanmac> shevy "./gemtree.rb --help" ?
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<ddv> Hanmac: my eyes :(
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<Hanmac> ddv what did i do again?
<ddv> Hanmac: gemtree.rb needs some refactorings
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<Hanmac> ddv it is already refactored enough or could you specify your problem with it?
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<ddv> Hanmac: encapsulate behaviour to several classes, a lot of methods are way too big
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<Hanmac> aha is that your opinion or did a little program did tell you that?
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<workmad3> ddv: I'd agree that a couple of methods are on the long side... but it's a 400 line script, you can hold pretty much everything it's doing in your head at once with a little effort, so it's not exactly gonna impede understandability yet ;)
<ddv> Hanmac: you sound a little bit condescending.....
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<ddv> Hanmac: also some methods have multiple responsebilities
<shevy> the problem is that OptionParser leads to design of awful spaghetti code
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<Hanmac> it is only because i documented it ... before it was a <300 line script ;P
<shevy> opt_parser.parse!(ARGV)
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<workmad3> hell, drop the option parsing, it's still under 300 lines with docs :)
<shevy> I hate stray ARGV somewhere
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<workmad3> so meh... I'd say additional refactoring at this point would be gold-plating it rather than providing anything useful :)
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<ddv> write_file, update_check zomg
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<ddv> :)
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<candelabra> I'm just looking over some documentation (specifically Syslog), and I see this "facility describes the type of program opening the syslog, and is the logical OR of any of the following"... what do they mean by "is the logical OR of"
<candelabra> ?
<Hanmac> hm ok the write_file can be splitted into 3 parts, but let me quess, the filter_gems is also to long for you ne?
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<ddv> I hate to be this phrick that recommends you to read up on solid principles but you really should Hanmac
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<workmad3> ddv: there's also such a thing as over-engineering a simple script :P
<ddv> Hanmac: you have a lot of unnecessary comments
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<bhaak> am I the only one bothered with comments missing a space like #comment? looks like a rdoc thing
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<workmad3> bhaak: tbh, most non-doc comments bother me :)
<drusepth> bhaak: I always "fix" the missing space
<ddv> workmad3: it could be so beautifull
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<mozzarella> #comment makes it look like it's commented code
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<bhaak> having a 50 lines of code method without any comments doesn't sound that good ;-)
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<ddv> your code is your documentation
<ddv> imo
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<bhaak> it depends. I generally prefer not having to write comments but then the code needs to be very clear.
<ddv> also a 50 lines method is way too big
<ddv> write clear code then bhaak
<bhaak> but sometimes my code is clear to me but not the coworker.
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<shevy> because he did not think the same way as you did
<ddv> bhaak: good code is easy to understand
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<ddv> bhaak: jus be glad you aren;'t using perl where you can do the same thing in millions of different ways
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<ddv> also if your coworker doesn't understand it must be his problem mentality is very bad :P
<Hanmac> refactor a bit, did cut the write_file method into pieces, link is the same
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<bhaak> he did write C# code before, so it IS his fault!
<ddv> bhaak: 5 years later you need to fix his code, your screwed :)
<Hanmac> ddv i am happy that you dont see my C++ bindings ... in there i cut the methods from >17lines into one ... for each attribute (and some classes does have more than >20 of them)
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<ddv> Hanmac: ok :)
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<Hanmac> hey! compared to my other stuff i do, this is documented ;P
<bhaak> ddv: s/years/weeks/ and BTDT
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<ddv> *you're
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<Hanmac> ddv: there my other code: https://github.com/Hanmac/rwx/blob/master/ext/wxWindow.cpp#L113-L116 that are macros for defining C-Interface methods to bind them against the Ruby API .. now try to solve how that macros works ... one tip for you, look at the main.hpp
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<shevy> wow
<shevy> I work through old code
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<shevy> and look at what I found:
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<ddv> Hanmac: I have no idea.
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<Hanmac> ddv the other did say you have exp with C/C# so a little bit Macros should not be a problem for you, ne? ;P
<shevy> what is faster:
<shevy> def foo
<shevy> return 'bla'
<shevy> or
<shevy> def foo
<shevy> 'bla'
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<ddv> shevy: exactly the same is my guess
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<ddv> shevy: what do you think?
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<shevy> the explicit one should be faster
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<shevy> through 1000 billion iterations
<Hanmac> shevy
<Hanmac> >> RubyVM::InstructionSequence.compile("def foo; 'bar';end").disasm == RubyVM::InstructionSequence.compile("def foo; return 'bar';end").disasm
<centrx> that's impossible, it's seven characters longer
<eval-in____> Hanmac => true (https://eval.in/190812)
<shevy> by a second
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<shevy> Hanmac and before it reaches that point?
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<shevy> there are already other areas where return is ignored; for instance for .foo=(i) methods
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<ddv> you actually worry about this shevy? I mean you know you are using ruby right? :D
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<Hanmac> shevy hm no, with foo= methods you need to be careful because its different when you call them with send
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<shevy> ddv I don't worry, I just want to know
<ddv> ah ok
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<Hanmac> shevy for the problem before: both have the same InstructionSequence, means both are the same internally ...
<shevy> Hanmac I mean inside the custom foo= method
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<shevy> if you do return 42 it won't be honoured
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<Hanmac> shevy if you call your custom foo= method with send, it does
<shevy> ok so InstructionSequence does not give us access to how the ruby parser itself sees the tokens given
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<diegoviola> so this company who was trying to hire me just sent me this email:
<diegoviola> "Hey Diego, We had a few internal issues and I will therefore have to delay your start by 2 weeks. Let me know if you have any problems postponing it and thanks for your understanding! Best regards,"
<diegoviola> geez
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<shevy> Hanmac really?
<shevy> lemme test that...
<diegoviola> it's like the third time they say this to me
<shevy> diegoviola are you still fighting for your money ;)
<diegoviola> not sure I want to work with them anymore
<diegoviola> shevy: no :-)
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<balance> Can I say that an instance variable in ruby basically imitates a class property e.g. in c#?
<shevy> cool that they know it will take 2 weeks
<shevy> they probably have a timer
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<shevy> "in 14 days we will send another fancy email to diegoviola"
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<shevy> that reminds me of Obama "fighting ISIS terrorists will take 3 years"
<shevy> people all have some timer for the future
<Hanmac> balance: hm i think it might be ... but you need to know that class objects itself can have instance variables too
<diegoviola> shevy: can I give them your email address so they bother you instead?
<shevy> diegoviola sure but I don't read email so .... :)))
<diegoviola> or is there a way to pipe that crap to /dev/null?
<shevy> naaah
<shevy> just delete it and be done and move on!
<diegoviola> sure, thanks
<ddv> diegoviola: I would look for other opportunities, doesn't sound very professional to me
<diegoviola> right
<balance> Hanmac class objects itself? You mean an object of the type Class?
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<Hanmac> balance: yes for sample Array is an instance of the class Class ... so Array can have instance variables too
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<balance> Hanmac ah yeah ok, good thanks
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<GeorgesLeYeti> Hi
<ddv> hi
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<GeorgesLeYeti> How could i get the full path of a file without the extension ?
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<GreatSUN> hey all
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<GeorgesLeYeti> Like File.join ( File.direname(mypath), File.basename( mypath, File.extname(mypath))
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<GeorgesLeYeti> is there any way to make it simpler
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<GreatSUN> can someone tell me if and how I can determine if a variable is defined or not if the name of the variable is the value of another?
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<centrx> GeorgesLeYeti, mypath.sub(/\..*$/, '')
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<GeorgesLeYeti> centrx: ty
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<centrx> GreatSUN, var.nil? ?
<Hanmac> centrx: hm might be problematic for files that start with a dot like ".profile"
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<GreatSUN> centrx: myVarToTestFor = 'myvarname'
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<gomikemike> hello
<GreatSUN> myVarToTestFor.nil? == false while defined?(myvarname) would be nil
<centrx> GeorgesLeYeti, ^
<siwica> What is the best practice to require files within your project? Is there some way I can get rid of any requirements other than for external gems?
<gomikemike> i hage to flip an IP address to automate the creation of a PTR record
<gomikemike> s/hage/hvae
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<gomikemike> argh, not better
<GreatSUN> siwica: what do you mean? you can load files by file list in array for example
<GreatSUN> ['myfile1', 'myfile2', 'myfile3'].each { |reqFile| require reqFile }
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<workmad3> gomikemike: ip_address.split(".").reverse.join(".")
<atmosx> guys anyone has experience with chartkick? a JS chart creator that works in ruby?
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<havenwood> siwica: You can use `Bundler.require` but typically one explicitly requires.
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<siwica> GreatSUN: I have an app with multiple directories that contain files. I want to require each file in each other one basically
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<gomikemike> workmad3: thanks, i will read about those commands.
<Hanmac> GreatSUN dont check for the existence of local variables, because it does not work that way
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<havenwood> siwica: http://bundler.io/groups.html
<siwica> havenwood: So does one typically require individual files or entire directories with "require_all"?
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<alex88> any idea for a replacement of the killall command in ruby?
<siwica> havenwood: that looks useful
<centrx> alex88, It's not the greatest idea to use killall automatically, but you can put it in system("killall x")
<alex88> centrx: replacement since it's not available in the system :D
<j416> o/ what's the /o suffix for regexp? I googled it but I can't quite grasp what it is for
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<havenwood> siwica: typically require individual files explicitly, if you don't want to there's Bundler.require to load everything in your Gemfile or selectively.
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<alex88> since I'm using the phantomjs.rb gem within a Timeout::timeout block and after a while I get a "EAGAIN Unable to fork" so my idea is that it doesn't get closed and it's still running
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<havenwood> alex88: yup
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<alex88> havenwood: you think that could be the problem too?
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<a___> j416: lol. tell me when you work it out. It's kind of ambiguous
<alex88> I thought that since the sidekiq thread gets closed also its children would
<j416> a___: thanks, you are awfully helpful :P
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<GreatSUN> Hanmac, ok, thanks anyways
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<havenwood> j416: o perform #{...} substitutions only once
<havenwood> only interpolate #{} blocks once
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<j416> havenwood: I still don't get it
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<alex88> havenwood: oh ok, so I think phantomjs.rb does none of the things in point 5
<alex88> I think I'll implement the timeout in the phantomjs script
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<havenwood> alex88: nice
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<alex88> thanks for the tips havenwood
<havenwood> np
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<havenwood> alex88: imagine you're iterating and each iteration you use a regexp, do you want the #{stuff} interpolation in the regexp to occur each time (like normal) or only once (\o).
<havenwood> alex88: ooh, MT
<havenwood> j416: ^
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<j416> where's that ruby playground pastebin?
<havenwood> GreatSUN: You have more options with instance variables.
<GreatSUN> havenwood: I guess it matters on if you have recursive values (#{} interpolation)
<canton7> j416, ideone?
<havenwood> j416: https://eval.in/
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<GreatSUN> havenwood: I know :-)
<j416> thanks
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<j416> havenwood: aaah, I get it now
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<j416> havenwood: it'll compile the regex and save it, somehow
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<j416> how is it stored though o_O
<havenwood> j416: a dark magic
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<j416> havenwood: if I define a regex with /o somewhere, will it then always refer to the regex instance of when it first ran?
<j416> until.. I restart my program?
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<havenwood> as long as it's referenced
<havenwood> not GCed
<j416> right
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<j416> but hm
<j416> it'd likely be in some method
<j416> methods are never gc:ed? o_O
<j416> so
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<havenwood> if you want to go down the GC rabbit hole, that's great, but you may get lost down there so bring a snack
<j416> I'm just trying to understand /o
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<havenwood> j416: here's a nice intro to Ruby GC: http://tmm1.net/ruby21-rgengc/
<GreatSUN> have to go home
<GreatSUN> have a nice evening
<GreatSUN> bye for now
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<j416> havenwood: thanks.
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<balance> http://pastebin.com/3M3cjCiR self.games and @games are here, basically, the same, right?
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<canton7> yup
<canton7> self.games calls the 'games' method, which returns the value of @games
<canton7> using @games just accesses @games
<apeiros> balance: they evaluate to the same value here. but they are not the same.
<balance> canton7, thanks, and is there a difference between using def self.foo and def foo in a class?
<balance> apeiros yeah, sure
<canton7> yes
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<Hanmac> like in one of my cases i had @data with is and Array, but self.data does return an base64/gzip string of that data
<apeiros> balance: your has_game? method can be rewritten as just: `games.include?(search_game)`
<centrx> also your shoe's untied
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<balance> apeiros it's bad written on purpose, it's an excersice, no productive code. :) thanks
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<balance> Is it bad practice to not use attr_accessor but do all the getting and setting by myself?
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<apeiros> there exist different opinions on that.
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<apeiros> IMO use @vars over accessors.
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<apeiros> only when your writer/reader is not a pure accessor and performs additional work, use methods
<centrx> balance, if you mean define your own getters and setters with "def", that would be pointless
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<apeiros> toretore can elaborate the 180° different view :-p
<balance> apeiros ok, centrx why?
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<centrx> balance, which issue did you mean?
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<centrx> balance, attr_accessor defines the basic getter and setter for you
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<balance> centrx I know
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<centrx> balance, @instance_variables are for access with in a class, as they clearly show up as variables, but the alternative always using the getter/setter method, allows for adding in dynamic logic more easily
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<centrx> balance, I would do @games = games in the initialize code you showed, and say @games = JSON.decode(games) if you wanted to add some logic for it, not self.games = games and putting that logic in the method
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<apeiros> s/@ivar(\s*)=/self.ivar\1=/ + s/@ivar/ivar/ # dunno, easy enough IMO
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<centrx> yeah, okay, it's decided then, use instance variables
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<apeiros> that said, I've a hard time to remember when I last replaced ivars through methods because I redesigned that part of a class
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<apeiros> so either it was too trivial or I haven't done it often, if at all
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<apeiros> replace ivars with methods? dang, english…
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<balance> centrx as I said, this is not my code. I don't really see what you are trying to point out with your JSON.
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<centrx> def initialize; @var = process(var); end VS def initialize; self.var = var; end; def var=(var); @var = process(var); end
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<balance> centrx, no I don't see why I should process my input within the init, I absolutely can't follow on what you are trying to tell me. :)
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<apeiros> I'm not even sure what balance really asked
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<centrx> I'm not even sure what day it is
<apeiros> blurnsday
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<balance> apeiros the question is answered but centry seems to try telling me something I don't get.
<balance> *centry
<balance> sry centrx I meant
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<apeiros> centrx: oh, actually today is Boomtime,the 33rd day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3180
<centrx> balance, using a setter method in #initialize is rarely ever done
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<balance> centrx yeah. I'd have done: @games = games.
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* apeiros really should add a discordian front-end to chronos :)
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<hfp-> Hey all, how to access a Geocoder object in Ruby (without rails)? I have this: https://gist.github.com/Coaxial/c82230a58201f78e560d but can't access it's lat/lon. I tried `c["@data"]; c[0].data, c[:data]` and every combination of these. What am I missing?
<balance> centrx anyway, I'ts code from an excercice and sometimes bad written on purpose. I'll see, thanks.
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<robert_> so here's an interesting dilemma- I have a project that needs me to inject tasks to run into the namespace of the Clockwork gem.. any ideas how I'd go about doing that?
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<t0th_-> hi
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<t0th_-> how i can solve this? http://pastebin.com/rJtVy5m5
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<t0th_-> any?
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<elaptics> t0th_-: make sure you have the active record gem installed
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<elaptics> something is expecting it, and your system can't find the gem in the load path
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<bousquet> t0th_-: are you using bundler?
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<bousquet> You have these first two lines somewhere? http://bundler.io/bundler_setup.html
<bousquet> If not bundler, then at least the first line.
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<nanashiRei> what's a good start into RoR?
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<wasamasa> #RubyOnRails
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<atmosx> hm, I need to create a hash an array which has hashes ... within but I think I'm kinda lost.
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<nanashiRei> [{:something: true}, ...]
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<Envek> Hello everyone. My program fails somewhere in C code, called by some gem. How to get know, where it failed? There is no traceback. (Currently it fails on some rake tasks).
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<balance> what methods are getting called when I output/return self?
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<atmosx> Any idea how to achieve this kind of hash? https://gist.github.com/atmosx/672676c1244bb5e75f16
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<wasamasa> atmosx: well, uh, you start with a list
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<wasamasa> atmosx: also, that comment looks syntactically incorrect
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<Envek> balance: usually `inspect` called in console, when you return something or so, and `to_s` when you output
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<atmosx> wasamasa: I wanna create another list where each element is a hash actually
<balance> Envek, thanks
<wasamasa> atmosx: since it's not all hashes
<wasamasa> atmosx: you became lazy midway :P
<atmosx> wasamasa: each element of that list would have multiple date and price
<wasamasa> atmosx: yes and the date and price aren't written the right way
<wasamasa> atmosx: no wonder you couldn't figure it out yet :P
<atmosx> lol
<atmosx> wasamasa: what do you mean? :-P
<wasamasa> atmosx: "{{"date1", "price1}, {"date2, "price2"}}"
<wasamasa> atmosx: that's just wrong
<atmosx> ah yes
<Hanmac> Envek: source of your program? what is your os? have you try to start it with gdb ?
<atmosx> I know shohuld {{date: date1, price: price1}, {date: date2, price: price2}}
<atmosx> should be
<wasamasa> no, the surrounding ones should be []
<atmosx> why is that?
<wasamasa> [{date: date1, price: price1}, {date: date2, price: price2}]
<wasamasa> because otherwise you'd have a set
<atmosx> hm
<wasamasa> which is just a more complicated way of writing a hash if you aren't using its prowess
<atmosx> so like Mystore => [{date: date1, price: price1}, {date: date2, price: price2}]
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<wasamasa> no, you want to list them
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<wasamasa> considering you're enumerating your stores
<atmosx> wasamasa: I want to know how many dates/prices each source has :-/
<atmosx> I'm not getting the right logic on how to approach this
<Envek> Hanmac: I don't know how to start it with GDB. Program fails somewhere inside rails' db rake tasks on Ubuntu 14.04 with OpenSSL configured tricky.
<wasamasa> {"store1" => [{date: date1, price: price1}, {date: date2, price: price2}], "store2" => [{date: date3, price: price3}, {date: date4, price: price4}]}
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<atmosx> wasamasa: I'm just trying to make a proper list to feed chartkick http://ankane.github.io/chartkick/ and I think that's the way to go
<Hanmac> oh debugging rails/rake/db could be even more tricky
<atmosx> wasamasa: yeah that is
<atmosx> thats it
<wasamasa> atmosx: there's three ways I've encountered to use hashes
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<atmosx> actually wait, let me feed this data to the graph to see if it works for me :-P
<wasamasa> atmosx: 1. using a list of hashes where each hash has known keys, 2. using an unique key for looking up values, 3. abuse, be it for sets, caches, whatever
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<wasamasa> atmosx: this example uses 1 and 2
<atmosx> wasamasa: yes
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<wasamasa> atmosx: also, keep in mind ruby is rather flexible considering the choice of keys
<wasamasa> atmosx: so, lists work, too
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<wasamasa> atmosx: and you can do some sort of magic by supplying a default value or block when creating the hash
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<atmosx> wasamasa: First I'll feed a hand-made hash to see if it works then I'll figure it out how to create it from my data.
<atmosx> hm
<wasamasa> good luck
<wasamasa> it's better to start out simple and add things on top of it :P
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<gregf_> yeah i know :/. unfortunately, i feel i can reduce 100 lines in php to 20 in perl/ruby
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<gregf_> oops :/ sorry
<atmosx> wasamasa: yeap, I'll give it a shot then use the ML, maybe there are some chartkick experts there because even that hash doesn't do what I want to :-/
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<balance> http://pastie.org/9539564 Could the second example conflict with a method from a different module with the same name?
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<Envek> balance: Later definition will replace earlier definition
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<balance> Envek of course this wouldn't be written like that in one file. Just 2 examples.
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<Envek> when that two module definitions in separate files will be required in one program, method from definition required later will replace method in definition required earlier
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<atmosx> goal.feats.group_by_week(:created_at).count for this expression to work properly goals.feats <-- this is hash right?
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<balance> Envek I know,I don't use the mtogether... My question was, if I defined the module like I do in the 2nd example, is it possible that it conflicts because I didnt use self?
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<atmosx> http://www.apple.com/ => You don't have permission to access "http://www.apple.com/" on this server.
<atmosx> cool
<atmosx> apple is dossed?
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<orolo> hi
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<orolo> i need to programmatically call a method on an object like so:
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<orolo> @my_var.OrangeBalloon but 'Orange' is a var. so i need to contact 'color' + Balloon and call that method on @my_var.
<orolo> *concat
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<orolo> i was trying stuff like: @my_var."#{color}Balloon".send but that isn't right.
<Envek> use @my_var.public_send("#{color}Balloon", arguments, if_any)
<orolo> cool. thanks Envek
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<apeiros> +1 for using public_send
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<arup_r> Can anyone please give me Gist having a equivalent Ruby code of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_pattern#Java ? I am not a bit literate in Java :-(
<arup_r> Please
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<Squarepy> #homework
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<arup_r> #school
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<atmosx> haha arup_r how r u?
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<arup_r> trying to get "well soon".. What about you ?
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<arup_r> atmosx: :-)
<arup_r> Really can't read Java.. :-(
<arup_r> Need to have a Ruby version.. Would you ?
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<atmosx> nice I made it!
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<atmosx> arup_r: Sorry, I can't read java either
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<atmosx> arup_r: but you can read any programming language if you try, I believe.
<atmosx> arup_r: is this some homework or not?
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<arup_r> How to implement *interface* in Ruby ? I don't know
<atmosx> arup_r: interface Graphic ... probably means 'require graphic' a module or something.
<atmosx> aaah
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<atmosx> what are you trying to do?
<arup_r> No..atmosx it is not homework..
<atmosx> to build?
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<arup_r> I am reading design patterns... 2 per week
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<arup_r> But my bad luck no body still submitted any Ruby code in wikipedia .. :(
<atmosx> design patterns? a book?
<arup_r> No.. wait a minute
<Hanmac> Ruby does not do interfaces ... its mostly just ducktyping
<arup_r> Not such a good site we have.. in Ruby
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<arup_r> It is tough to me..now to learn Java C# ... to learn design pattern concept.. so thought I can get some help from you guys
<atmosx> Hanmac: I'm not sure what does he mean by interfaces, I'm thinking about network interfaces, web intefaces, gui interfaces :-P
<arup_r> Maybe all are not like me.. who started his programming career using Ruby
<arup_r> I have limited world right now
<Hanmac> atmosx: in PHP and other languages you have an interface, what is like a pure abstract class in C++ where all methods are virtual ...
<arup_r> atmosx: _interface_ is a keyword as far as I know
<arup_r> but I don't know its consequences...
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<Hanmac> ruby does not need that because we do the other way around like with Enumerable where all methods are defined in a module and only some methods are missing like #each
<atmosx> Hanmac: what's the use of it?
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<Hanmac> atmosx: he asked for code samples how to do something ... that repo does have samples
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<Hanmac> hm ok but thats only a general idea .. imo that repo does need to be updated .. for sample it does make a sum of values without using inject ...
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<arup_r> Humm... he had not covered all patterns..
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<arup_r> Big example code without explanation.. wikipedia is good but lacks variety of example
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<Hanmac> in most of the cases i write working and efficient code and then i do not care about design patterns ...
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<atmosx> hm in this expression: = line_chart MyHelpers.make_graph(@product.source).map {|k, v|{name: k, data: v.group_by_day(:created_at).price }} ... I get always this error: no implicit conversion of Symbol into Integer (TypeError), des this mean that the last part where I have a symbol is wrong?
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<jhass> arup_r: an interface is something you mostly need in statically typed languages, it's the description of what methods you can call on an object that implements (=inherits) that inerface
<jhass> arup_r: in ruby you just strip that part
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<jhass> arup_r: let's not start at implementation for learning composite. Can you think of and describe a problem that could be solved using composite?
<arup_r> What is the equivalent Ruby.. If I get one such translation.. there are others where I can use the idea.. Would you give me a Ruby version ? I am not asking for spoon feed.. I am asking one referential example.. based on which I can build others..
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<jhass> no, that's pointless. Patterns give a general idea on how to solve something, but variations on them depending on the problem are welcome and expected
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<arup_r> I can give you one more examples.. I have in mind.. But before that I need one example to see in Ruby... jhass: Another example is Filesystem.. where directory and files have something that can be solved using Composite pattern..
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<jhass> something? get concrete. What would be the common operations?
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<arup_r> jhass: Read the first para - http://www.oodesign.com/composite-pattern.html
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<jhass> I asked you to come up with your own problem ;)
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<arup_r> Ok... I learning from my personal interest,, and if I am aware of, if I know it, in future it will pay off..
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<arup_r> example.. if some one not aware of #inject... he would probably right his own #sum using for loop etc..
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<arup_r> jhass: But if someone aware of whenever he would see... need to add series of number.. quicky write the code using #inject... by looking at the API
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<wasamasa> atmosx: I have this when I attempt accessing arrays as if they were hashes
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<jhass> So you can
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<jhass> mah, too early enter
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<jhass> arup_r: so you can't think of a problem where you apply the same operation to some objects and some objects that contain the former objects?
<arup_r> HUmm.. I don't have any in my real work
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<arup_r> But I am interested to learn it..
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<arup_r> I am good in backtracking.. means code to theory :-)
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<wasamasa> atmosx: since ruby expects array access to be with an integer and you hand it a symbol instead
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<atmosx> wasamasa: that's the example code from the code for the graph I wanna create
<atmosx> <%= line_chart @goals.map{|goal|
<atmosx> {name: goal.name, data: goal.feats.group_by_week(:created_at).count}
<atmosx> } %>
<wasamasa> atmosx: no full trace?
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<atmosx> not right now
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<atmosx> I'm workin on a diff approach I constructed an expression which almost does what I want so I think I'm getting closer
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<benlieb> I've encountered an error installing a gem that I've never seen. Maybe it's a problem on my side. I'm trying to install 'geo-distance', but it has a conflict with it's own internal dependencies it seems. How do resolve this: https://rubygems.org/gems/geo-distance
<treehug88> In a sinatra post handler, how do I get the parameters passed but without splat and captures?
<benlieb> gem install 'geo-distance'
<benlieb> ERROR: While executing gem ... (Gem::DependencyError)
<benlieb> Unable to resolve dependencies: geo-distance requires geo_units (~> 0.2.4.1); geo_calc requires sugar-high (>= 0.6.0), geo_units (>= 0.3.1.1)
<benlieb> oops sorry
<benlieb> didn't mean to paste that all...
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<benlieb> hm, it seems to work when I put it in the gem file, but not using gem directly. never mind.
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<treehug88> IE, in my post handler, I just want to see the actual name/value pairs the caller passed without 'captures' and 'splat' and any thing else added by sinatra (like an id key if I use post /things/id)
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<nobitanobi> How do you call this <=>?
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<jhass> spaceship operator I think
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<nobitanobi> jhass: thank you
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<jhass> nobitanobi: why?
<nobitanobi> jhass: learning how to use it, or when to use it.
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<jhass> if you want to search for it use a special character aware search engine like symbolhound.com
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<nobitanobi> jhass: didn't know about that one. Thanks!
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<apeiros> nobitanobi: spaceship IMO most common. threeway-comparison-operator technical (iirc)
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<nobitanobi> I see it is really useful if you define it in your class and include de Comparable module. That's cool
<apeiros> yupp
<nobitanobi> thanks guys
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<atmosx> treehug88: you here?
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<treehug88> atmosx:yes
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<treehug88> I don't think so
<treehug88> I think I want request.params instead of just bare params
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<buhjlaw> hi
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<jhass> hi
<buhjlaw> On Friday I have an interview for a startup. It will be a pair programming interview (using Ruby). I know this might be way to broad to ask, but maybe you guys can recommend me any tips?
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<atmosx> jhass: hello
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<nobitanobi> buhjlaw: I would review https://github.com/bbatsov/ruby-style-guide
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<treehug88> buhjlaw: study up
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<Hanmac> has someone a project with a Gemfile and a gemspec (loading the gemspec from the Gemfile) hosted on github or similar? i needed a sample so i can test my gemtree stuff with more Gemfiles
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<buhjlaw> treehug88: yep. I was wondering any specific tips :P
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<Envek> About crash in C code question I asked earlier. I've localized it a bit: https://bitbucket.org/ged/ruby-pg/issue/190/rails-crash-on-db-access-with-custom
<MattB> Hi!
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<MattB> Can anyone please tell me why tho doesn't produce the expected result:
<MattB> irb(main):002:0> {}[:test] = {n: 2} => {:n=>2}
<MattB> Or more simply, {}[:test] = 'value'
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<apeiros> what is the expected result?
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<MattB> a hash with a singe key and value {:test=>'value'}
<apeiros> and what leads you to expect that result?
<apeiros> because it's a) not what the docs say and b) it's not what any other assignment method does
<MattB> {} is an empty hash
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<apeiros> that's irrelevant. relevant is the return value of the method.
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<apeiros> and assignment methods *all* return the assigned value.
<apeiros> and Hash#[]= documents that for its own case:
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<apeiros> "hsh[key] = value -> value"
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<MattB> hmm, okay, let me ask how do do what I'm ultimately trying to achieve, ...
<apeiros> so I guess the answer would be: because your expectation is wrong.
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<apeiros> you have two choices: a) assign to a variable, b) use Object#tap
<apeiros> (b technically is a in a different way)
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<MattB> What I'm ultimately trying to do is: given an array of hashes a = [ {a: 1, b: 2}, {c: 3, d: 4} ] merge a second array of hashes: b = [ {w: 11, x: 12}, {y: 13, z: 14} ], merge these into the first so that each original hash has the corresponding hash from the second array inserted with a key
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<centrx> MattB, a.zip(b).map { |x,y| x.merge(y) }
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<MattB> centrx, thanks, will that give this: c = [ {a: 1, b: 2, data: {w: 11, x: 12}}, {c: 3, d: 4, data: {y: 13, z: 14} } ]
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<apeiros> MattB: if it isn't solved by what centrx said, then give the output for your example
<apeiros> ah
<apeiros> already done. good :)
<apeiros> no, it does not. but it's how you can get there.
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<atmosx> centrx: did you happen to work with chartkick?
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<atmosx> centrx: to generate graphs?
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<centrx> atmosx, negatory
<atmosx> centrx: ah pitty k
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<MattB> apeiros, centrx, thanks, but that just merges the two sets of hashes, I need the second set to be merged as a value in the first with a key, like [ {a: 1, b: 2, data: {w: 11, x: 12}}, {c: 3, d: 4, data: {y: 13, z: 14} } ]
<apeiros> MattB: merge can do it for you. just adapt his code.
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<MattB> I had got this far: x = a.collect {|member| member.merge({}['data'] = b.shift)}
<apeiros> nah
<apeiros> keep the zip+map part
<apeiros> only change the merge part
<MattB> Which is where I came unstuck with my daft {}[:kry] = 'value' attempt...
<apeiros> {data: inner_hash}
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<apeiros> you can construct a hash directly.
<apeiros> >> inner_hash = {w: 11, x: 12}; data_hash = {data: inner_hash}; data_hash
<eval-in____> apeiros => {:data=>{:w=>11, :x=>12}} (https://eval.in/190939)
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<apeiros> all that is left for you to do is merge that with your other hash.
<MattB> aperiros, that didn't work when I tried it inside the collect...
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<MattB> oh, what?! It's working now! x = a.collect {|member| member.merge({data: b.shift})}
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<MattB> Thank's for the help - not surge where I went wrong the first time,,,
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<MattB> not sure...
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<MattB> So apeiros / centrx - is there a better way to do it that mine? (Can you tell I'm a bit of a novice?! :-)
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<centrx> MattB, The #zip combines a and b into one array of pairs
<apeiros> MattB: well, where you went wrong: merge({}['data'] = b.shift)} is not merge({"data" => b.shift})
<apeiros> MattB: also re better way - again, keep zip+map
<apeiros> better than shifting
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<MattB> got it: a.zip(b).map { |x,y| x.merge(data: y) }
<MattB> Thanks so much both!!!
<centrx> ||=
<Hanmac> apeiros: do you have a project with using Gemfile in combination with a gemspec?
<MattB> I do!
<apeiros> Hanmac: no public project, sorry
<MattB> (Not mine but using one...)
<Hanmac> mattB is it public on github or similar? i just need them for testing my gemtree
<MattB> yes, github... hang on... it's called mwhich
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<MattB> It's not exactly the most robust code, but it uses a Gemfile and a gemspec
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<MattB> Happens to be what the line of code I was getting help with is for - I'm cleaning which up and extending it, and am writing an adapter for a different API...
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<Hanmac> ah thats good enough for me to test my gemtree stuff ... i already noticed that i need to rewrite something because for gemspec i need more relative paths
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<dopie> e
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<jhass> f
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<dopie> jhass, another question concerning api's :)
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<MattB> APIs
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<MattB> <- pedant
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<dopie> MattB, what odoes that mean??
<MattB> pedant? Someone who is pedantic.
<nobitanobi> ?
<MattB> pedantic: excessively concerned with minor details or rules; overscrupulous.
<centrx> I think it means you like feed
<centrx> feet
<MattB> :-)
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<MattB> What was the api question dope?
<MattB> dopie (sorry!!!)
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<dopie> ok well i logged in and authenticated on the test account bu ti hit a wall where i dont know how to proceed down the api
<dopie> http://support.ihomefinder.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/175/56/technical-details
<dopie> how would i now search for something?
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<MattB> dopie - it say to append ?zip=93610 to the search url
<MattB> where 93610 is some zip...
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<MattB> or to search by city id
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<MattB> The search url is in the JSON encoded response body (looks like it includes a unique token based on the login...
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<MattB> httparty has json decode built in, so you can access the object in the response.
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<niklas123> Hi, what ruby book would you recommend, for ruby beginners but not programming beginner?
<shevy> pickaxe
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<centrx> niklas123, also check out https://gist.github.com/waseem/5068050
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<dopie> MattB, can you show me an example
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<dopie> MattB, can you show me an example
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<MattB_> Is this thing on?
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<MattB_> Try: pp test['links'][0]['href']
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<MattB_> Use that as your url to construct a new Httparty request
<niklas123> to ask further, what's your go to book for rails, I want to expand ruby as well rails. I'll look into the pickaxe book!
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<MattB_> Append ?zip=<somezip>
<MattB_> Profit!
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<shevy> the railsers are on #rubyonrails
<shevy> we forbid them here
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<MattB_> dopie - did that help?
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<nobitanobi> uh oh, just discovered the keyword arguments. Bye bye options hash?
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<wasamasa> benzrf: hm
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<MaciejCzyzewski> Hi all, folks.
<MaciejCzyzewski> What's going on?
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<MattB> not much!
<benzrf> nobitanobi: kwargs are literally just options hash unpacking
<jhass> well, and key validation
<nobitanobi> benzrf: yep! It's pretty cool
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<nobitanobi> And, I just saw that since Ruby 2.1, you can make args mandatory
<MaciejCzyzewski> boring? pffff
<nobitanobi> nice
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<shevy> wait a moment
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<shevy> I can make args mandatory in 1.8.x too
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<shevy> def foo(i)
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<shevy> there
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<shevy> what do you say now nobitanobi :-)
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<MattB> How do I turn off join / leave announcements please?
<nobitanobi> shevy: not named though :P
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<jhass> MattB: depends on your client
<MattB> Ah, okay - freenode web client
<MattB> Any recommendations for a mac client?
<wallerdev> download a real client
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<nobitanobi> MattB: limechat
<wasamasa> MattB: limechat?
<wallerdev> limechat is dumb
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<MattB> cool, thanks both.
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<atmosx> MattB: I use textual, which I boughtfrom the appstore but you could try xChat-aqua if you don't want to buy TX
<atmosx> other clients I use are command line clients, which are way more easy to configure .. truth to be told
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<wallerdev> this one looks interesting, have thought about trying it https://github.com/mephux/komanda
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<wasamasa> "The IRC Client For Developers"
<atmosx> I crossed a web client the other tday
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<wasamasa> "Komanda is a IRC client built with node-webkit, javascript, html and css[…]."
<wasamasa> nope
<wallerdev> i use colloquy right now
<atmosx> "theem it to death" hahaha
<atmosx> colloquy is like IM
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<wallerdev> how is colloquy like IM
<atmosx> more than IRC, I can't really get used to that theme
<atmosx> the theme is... was at least last time I tried
<wallerdev> theres a few themes haha
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<wallerdev> turn emoticons off, hide the title bar, looks good
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<marcanuy> Hi, I've just installed the latest rbenv version from github, now I try to run "rbenv install -l"
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<wallerdev> im gonna try komanda right now
<marcanuy> but does not work, "rbenv versions" doesn't show anything, any idea?
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<wallerdev> ew fake menu bar lol
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<MattB_> that works
<wasamasa> I know, right
<MattB_> (Limechat)
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<topper> heyo - anyone know about using kerberos for ssh in ruby >= 1.9 ?
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<topper> all I see is this: https://coderwall.com/p/cehpya
<marcanuy> anybody using `rbenv versions` ?
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<Scient> so im compiling ruby 2.1.2 with openssl 10.x (latest) centos 6.5 and im running into an issue with openssl CA certs
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<Scient> namely that it fails to find the certs
<Scient> although the path seems to point to the correct location
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<listrophy> I want to run a local HTTP server that just forwards requests to another HTTP server, headers and all. How do?
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<listrophy> I'm looking into WEBrick's HTTPProxyServer, but I can't figure out if that's the right approach
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<listrophy> demo quality... no need for high performance
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<Scient> pipework: i bet you know how to fix this issue?
<example321> hello
<Scient> !?
<helpa> ???
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<example321> anyone know a good tutorial on Rails?
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<nobitanobi> example321: #rubyonrails will help you better
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<listrophy> basically, i just want to insert a single 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header on the response from a server I don't own
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<Georg3> hey does anyone mind taking a quick look at this? It's a relatively simple method but I'm getting an error - http://pastebin.com/icNyUWuw
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<Georg3> the error is "TypeError: no implicit conversion from nil to integer"
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<Mon_Ouie> >> d1, d2, profit, i = 0; p d2
<eval-in____> Mon_Ouie => nil ... (https://eval.in/191003)
<Mon_Ouie> If you want to set them all at once use d1 = d2 = profit = i = 0
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<MattB> listrophy, I had to do something similar a few years ago. Pretty sure I used https://github.com/jaswope/rack-reverse-proxy
<Georg3> Oh duh, thanks Mon_Ouie
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<Georg3> now to figure out why it won't compute anything =P
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<nobitanobi> Guys, any good readings on how to manage file requirements? I tend to see this approach: require File.expand_path(File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/myfile') - as well as modifying the $LOAD_PATH... But I am confused on what is the suggested pattern to do so.
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<toretore> nobitanobi: your program should do neither
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<toretore> it should assume that the load path has been set already
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<toretore> require 'mylib/file'
<nobitanobi> toretore: interesting
<toretore> ruby -Ilib program.rb
<nobitanobi> I see.
<nobitanobi> toretore: what is that --llib?
<toretore> adds lib to path
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<nobitanobi> oh, I have seen rspec does that.
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<nobitanobi> so, by convention, is the caller's responsability to do that?
<skfax> What would be the idiomatic way of combining these two arrays of hashes in ruby? http://pastebin.com/uu4y8rDF
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<toretore> nobitanobi: yes
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<nobitanobi> toretore: thanks
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<nobitanobi> skfax: first.concat(second)
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<stevie> hey
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<stevie> what is the best way to create an admin panel from scratch? are there any good frameworks for secure logins?
<skfax> nobitanobi: thanks :)
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<manzo> stevie: if you are working with rails, and really want to make it from the scratch I would suggest active_admin. If you want something more automagic rails_admin
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<shevy> test
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<shevy> ziptte is a bot :(
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