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<centrx> multi_io, it's like saying >= 1.5.0 AND <= 1.6.0 (next major version)
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<centrx> multi_io, as major version usually indicates backwards-incompatible changes, while minor versions indicate backwards-compatible changes
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<multi_io> TTilus: hey, the tab completion works now :P
<multi_io> centrx: ok I see
<Phrogz> I thought (with little confidence) that ~> "1.5" would allow 1.5.0 - 1.5.99, but ~> "1.5.0" would only allow "1.5.0.1" and so on.
<Phrogz> No?
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<multi_io> as I understand it, ~> "1.5" would allow 1.[5...infinity]
<centrx> "The specifier ~> has a special meaning, best shown by example. ~> 2.0.3 is identical to >= 2.0.3 and < 2.1. ~> 2.1 is identical to >= 2.1 and < 3.0. ~> 2.2.beta will match prerelease versions like 2.2.beta.12.
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<multi_io> i.e. everything from 1.5 up to (but not including) 2.0
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<centrx> ~> 1.5 would be >= 1.5 and < 2.0
<Phrogz> Further: "Had we said ~> 2.2.0, that would have been equivalent to ['>= 2.2.0', '< 2.3.0']"
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<Phrogz> So I was wrong. And some of my dependencies are consequently overly permissive :)
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<centrx> #ruby wins again
<centrx> Handshakes all around
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<Phrogz_> centrx: You mean that delegator stdlib appears to monkeypatch Object?
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<centrx> Phrogz, I usually use Rails/ActiveSupport delegate for delegation, so this is either some fancy or some funky new stuff
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<Phrogz> Not new at all; been around forever.
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<Phrogz> So, at least 7 years :)
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<centrx> new to me I mean
<centrx> fancy or funky
<Phrogz> Ah. :) Well, it works well; even moreso if you override the #class method :)
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<dwn> hey, if I want to extend String to add a new in-place modification method...
<dwn> how would my method modify the current value stored by the String
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<centrx> dwn, You can extend String either by monkey-patching core String, or by creating a new class that contains (composes) a String inside, e.g. @value = str
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<dwn> yeah, I think I'm adding a def to core String
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<centrx> dwn, yeah just put a library in lib/ or sometimes core_ext/
<centrx> dwn, then require it as appropriate
<dwn> class String \n def whatever!(val)\n # do stuff to internal val \n end \n end
<centrx> yup
<dwn> right
<dwn> but how do I modify the internal val
<dwn> is the question
<centrx> dwn, Ruby is completely object-oriented with these base classes too
<centrx> dwn, maybe self or self.to_s
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<dwn> ah, ok
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<dwn> nope
<dwn> not self or self.to_s
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<dwn> can't change the value of self
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<Phrogz> dwn: String#replace
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<centrx> >> class String; def hi; puts "hi " + self; end; end; name = "Bob"; name.hi
<eval-in_> centrx => hi Bob ... (https://eval.in/196299)
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<dwn> yeah, #replace looks like it'd work
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<Phrogz> Hah, I was trying to track down why Windows RubyInstaller was stuck at 2.0.0, and then discovered that yesterday 2.1.3 was released. Huzzah!
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<centrx> yeah Ruby with Windows is not the best
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<crome> ruby changelog ftw
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<Phrogz> Other than this, and cmd.exe being suck wrt Unicode, I've had no trouble with Ruby on Windows. Must be hard work on the team's part to keep it up.
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<centrx> It used to be significantly slower, I think that has cleared up
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<zorak8> what are your terminal emuletor and why?
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<centrx> rxvt fast and small
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<zorak8> mine is Xfce terminal, default in mint
<centrx> eterm is nice with fancy things
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<centrx> zorak8, yeah that's probably a lot like rxvt/xterm
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<zorak8> but want something better
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<centrx> zorak8, rxvt is the best for basic use
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<centrx> zorak8, eterm and some other fancy ones have nice extra features
<centrx> like background images
<centrx> or showing clickable images when you do ls, e.g. on a directory of images
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<zorak8> i want one to vim mainly
<zorak8> vim - rails
<centrx> yeah I just use rxvt with vim
<centrx> programming rails
<centrx> xterm is a little slower
<zorak8> vim - ruby, since im learning shoes now
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<centrx> zorak8, lots of functionality in vim
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<zorak8> the .bashrc works equal in other terminals?
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<centrx> zorak8, yes, same shell everywhere
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<fred-inRio> where ?do I start to learn ruby
<fred-inRio> where do I start to learn ruby ?
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<zorak8> fred-inRio: from zero?
<zorak8> are you in rio de janeiro?
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<fred-inRio> intermediary
<fred-inRio> yes
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<zorak8> fred-inRio: already did the codecademy course?
<sillybutton> how would I go about creating a Ruby binding for Wayland? How would I write a Wayland compositor in Ruby?
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<sillybutton> and how would I start to learn programming with Ruby as my first language?
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<zorak8> fred-inRio: https://rubymonk.com
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<sillybutton> hello?
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<zorak8> fred-inRio: search ruby koans in ddg
<msx> codeacademy has a nice course too
<sillybutton> msx: zorak8 how do I learn to code?
<msx> sillybutton: coding
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<sillybutton> but then how?
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<zorak8> read a lot
<msx> as Yoda loves to say, don't think, just do
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<zorak8> and search problems
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<msx> sillybutton: think about anything you need and start working on it
<sillybutton> msx: erm...I need nanokernel Linux
<fred-inRio> Thanks guys
<msx> so we have a jester here?
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<sillybutton> msx: possibly yes
<sillybutton> because that's way too hard for a newbie
<sillybutton> so, what could I make?
<sillybutton> if I made a program to put text inside boxes
<sillybutton> or a kitchen timer program
<sillybutton> Hey yeah a kitchen timer program!
<sillybutton> but how??
<sillybutton> all I know is it must be a precise timer and implemented in Gtk+ 3
<zorak8> make some tutorials
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<sillybutton> another thing is a Ruby implementation of conky using Cairo and compatible with Wayland
<sillybutton> anything to make Xorg users happier using Wayland
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<sillybutton> so if you could get me started on making my kitchen timer
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<msx> sillybutton: programming isn't that different to learning any other 'speaking' language. As zorak8 said you should try with some tutorials to start acquiring concepts, terminology, 'vocabulary' and so on...
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<sillybutton> msx: so where are the tutorials? I need to know how to do for loops in Ruby
<sillybutton> I wanna make a diamond shape as ascii art using a for loop
* sillybutton googles ruby tutorials
<msx> you know about about Google, right!!?? Check above, guys (including myself) have already posted some good resources to start familiarizing with Ruby
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<zorak8> give a try to duckduckgo.com too
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<sillybutton> msx zorak8 I will bookmark those
<sillybutton> did go there sir
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<zorak8> and codecademy
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<zorak8> codecademy, then monk, then koans
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<sillybutton> ok thanks guys, I'll be back later
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<msx> enjoy
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<diegoviola> ruby 3.0, static typing, wat?
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<mozzarella> diegoviola: where did you read that?
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<agent_white> Evenin' folks
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<diegoviola> is that a joke? I mean, is ruby still ruby with static typing?
<diegoviola> "Well, all the new kids in the street these days, like Scala, TypeScript, Dart and Go, they are all static typed language, so why not Ruby?"
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<diegoviola> ...
<diegoviola> if I really wanted static typing I would be coding in C
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<zorak8> what is static typing?
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<multi_io> zorak8: it's when types are known at compile time
<zorak8> ??
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<multi_io> i.e. to the compiler
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<multi_io> the types of variables
<multi_io> zorak8: it's when types of variables are known to the compiler
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<zorak8> im very new to programming and only know ruby, never compile in my life
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<zorak8> exept some make in linux
<zorak8> and what are the diff are ruby now
<zorak8> ?
<multi_io> in statically typed languages like c, you tell the compiler that a variable x has type int (for example)
<multi_io> which means that you can only ever assign ints to it
<multi_io> if you try to assign e.g. a string to it, the compiler won't accept that
<multi_io> in ruby otoh, you can assign anything to an x, e.g. x=42; x="foo"; x=SomeObj.new
<arup_r> If you have..could you give me to read please ?
<zorak8> int @price will forever be a int
<zorak8> cant be a float later?
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<zorak8> if they make that change its gonna be really different
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<multi_io> are there tools that autogenerate a == method that does an element-wise compare?
<multi_io> tools in the stdlib
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<jhass> diegoviola: a statically typed ruby would be named Crystal (http://crystal-lang.org) :P
<diegoviola> heh
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<robert_> apeiros: how goes it
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<hodja> hi guys, i'm looking for ruby on rails channel. can you help me find it?
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<arup_r> hodja: ^^
<Hanmac> hodja: did you try #rubyOnRails ?
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<hodja> thanks guys!
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<robert_> http://codepad.org/LYrwFwNM -- so for everybody here last night who saw my code before- I've worked on it a little bit more, and now I get a deadlock while calling EventLog::create_source(); any ideas why?
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<robert_> also, I'm aware that I'm missing a pair of << when sending the result to channel_out
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<multi_io> >> Module.instance_methods.include? :attr_accessor
<eval-in_> multi_io => false (https://eval.in/196345)
<multi_io> why?
<multi_io> >> Module.instance_method(:attr_accessor)
<eval-in_> multi_io => #<UnboundMethod: Module#attr_accessor> (https://eval.in/196346)
<multi_io> there it is
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<multi_io> so why is it not in instance_methods?
<Hanmac> multi_io:
<Hanmac> >> Module.private_instance_methods.include? :attr_accessor
<eval-in_> Hanmac => true (https://eval.in/196347)
<multi_io> ah!
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<robert_> Hanmac: how goes it
<Hanmac> depending what you are asking about
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<robert_> Hanmac: just generally wondering. :D
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<robert_> anyone have any ideas about my problem, though?
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<Hanmac> robert_: first, "f = @todo_message; f("Event Subscription Infrastructure");" does not work
<Hanmac> second "def initialize (id, name, *param, **kwarg);" remove the " " before "(" and the ";" at the end or it might bite you in your ass
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<robert_> okay.
<robert_> I can't use lambdas like that?
<Hanmac> robert_: third, for @notsupported i would choice NotImplementedError
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<robert_> I'll fix everything at the same time. :D
<Hanmac> robert_: @todo_message.call("Event Subscription Infrastructure") would work ... or @todo_message.("Event Subscription Infrastructure") ... but not @todo_message("Event Subscription Infrastructure") ... notice the "." before the "(" in the second one
<robert_> ah, .call
<robert_> yeah.
<robert_> I'll remember that. :D
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<robert_> Hanmac: Just going through the issues as you see then? :D
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<Hanmac> hm in EventChannel you did maybe forgot the Thread:: before Queue.new
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<robert_> Watch it be something stupid like that. :p
<Hanmac> MyDumbScheduler#scheduler_thread does not work because it does try to call logger.create_source before the logger was set
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<robert_> yeah, it expires even when I'm not using MyDumbScheduler.
<robert_> the initial call to create_source also fails.
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<Hanmac> robert_: no the problem is that whne MyDumbScheduler#scheduler_thread is called, logger is still nil, so logger.create_source does crash because nil does not have a create_source method
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<robert_> I fixed that by moving .run into work(), but that's not the issue.
<robert_> Hanmac: http://codepad.org/mMgWfSdi <-- also doesn't work. the initial create_source() times out.
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<Hanmac> robert_ where does it crash or where does an error appear or does it simply does not do anything?
<robert_> event_log.rb:137:in `pop': No live threads left. Deadlock? (fatal)
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<robert_> oh.
<robert_> duh.
<Hanmac> found the error?
<robert_> yeah. :D
<robert_> it helps to have a general exception handler after your timeout just in case.
<robert_> :D
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<multi_io> are there tools in the stdlib that autogenerate a == method that does an element-wise compare?
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<multi_io> I have a class that's stored in a variable c (e.g. class Foo; ...; end .... c = Foo).
<multi_io> not I want to define an instance method in c.
<multi_io> one way would be c.class_eval "def method; ..end"
<mozzarella> do it then
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<multi_io> any other way?
<multi_io> mozzarella: it's not nice
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<Hanmac> multi_io: define_method ?
<Hanmac> multi_io: class_eval also has a block form ... use it if possible and dont use the string form
<multi_io> Hanmac: ah! thanks
<multi_io> I'll try that
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<multi_io> heh, define_method is private
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<multi_io> is there a difference between class_eval and module_eval btw?
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<Mon_Ouie> No, just the name
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<Hanmac> mh but it seems currently the documentation of both is a bit "off"
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<multi_io> yeah
<Hanmac> i think i need to make a ticket for that
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<markit> hi, I've code that worked with ubuntu 12.04, probably ruby 1.8, and does not with ubuntu 14.04, ruby 2.1
<markit> is code someone helped me wrote and I'm not very familiar with the insight
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<markit> but is short and simple ;P
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<markit> elementi = %x[lsb_release -a 2>/dev/null].split("\n")
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<markit> and this is fine
<markit> distributor = elementi.select{|r| r =~ /Distributor ID:/}.to_s.split("\t").last.downcase # es. debian, ubuntu
<markit> this fails
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<markit> to my opinion, is the ".to_s" that behaves different
<markit> i.e.
<markit> b = elementi.select{|r| r =~ /Distributor ID:/}
<markit> ' => ["Distributor ID:\tDebian"]
<markit> b = elementi.select{|r| r =~ /Distributor ID:/}.to_s
<apeiros> replace to_s with .join
<apeiros> shouldn't have used to_s to begin with :-/
<markit> apeiros: will work with ruby 1.8 too?
<apeiros> yes
<markit> ah
<markit> apeiros: thanks a lot
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<apeiros> to_s changed because too many people were confusing arrays for strings because they looked like strings when printed
<markit> works fine, wow
<markit> ah, I see... better check all my code then
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<multi_io> man, the emacs ruby stuff from ELPA seems totally broken in Emacs 24.3
<multi_io> I can't enter {
<multi_io> :-O
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<multi_io> >> x=42; class Foo; def m; puts x; end end; Foo.new.m
<eval-in_> multi_io => undefined local variable or method `x' for #<Foo:0x41904df4> (NameError) ... (https://eval.in/196395)
<multi_io> why can't m see x?
<multi_io> I thought it should still work like a lexical closure or something
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<Hanmac> multi_io: local variables are only local to the object/scope they are in
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<apeiros> multi_io: class, module and def start new lexical contexts
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<multi_io> ok
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<Hanmac> procs does might to it too if the varaibles are defined proc-local ;P
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<Hanmac> >> pr = proc { e = 4 }; e = 5; pr.call; p e
<eval-in_> Hanmac => 5 ... (https://eval.in/196396)
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<Hanmac> >> e = 5; pr = proc { e = 4 }; pr.call; p e
<eval-in_> Hanmac => 4 ... (https://eval.in/196397)
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<Hanmac> >> e = 5; pr = proc {|;e| e = 4 }; pr.call; p e
<eval-in_> Hanmac => 5 ... (https://eval.in/196398)
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<multi_io> so, here's my take on a tool for defining elementwise == methods: https://gist.github.com/multi-io/8f5d3795756aab0213fa
<multi_io> couldn't do it without the string-based class_eval
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<Mon_Ouie> You could, just use with define_method instead of def
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<Mon_Ouie> (Also I feel like guessing the attributes is too much magic, I'd rather explicitly state which methods should be called to compare the objects)
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<multi_io> Mon_Ouie: with define_method I'd again have the problem of how to pass the attr_readers into it. I guess I'd have to use some global/class variable, which isn't so nice
<multi_io> ignore the attributes guessing. the whole thing is just for some internal unit tests here.
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<Mon_Ouie> No you wouldn't, you can use a local variable
<Mon_Ouie> >> class Foo; x = 3; define_method(:bar) { x }; end; Foo.new.bar
<eval-in_> Mon_Ouie => 3 (https://eval.in/196399)
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<multi_io> ah
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<multi_io> Mon_Ouie: thanks, that seems to work
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<mikecmpbll> is assigning a lamba to a constant terrible?
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<mikecmpbll> just looking to store a mathematical function -- could use a method of course.
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<crome> yeah, it is terrible
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<mikecmpbll> :D
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<banister_> mikecmpbll it's not terrible, it depends how you intend to use it
<banister_> if you can get away with a method then use a method, but if the use of a method causes u to use weird syntax i.e &method(:blah) then use a lambda assigned to a constant instead
<mikecmpbll> ah okay.
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<crome> also, use the lambda + constant thing if you want to take photos of your colleauges scratching their head thinking why on earth someone did this
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<crome> could provide some entertainment value
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<Hanmac> banister_: i did use method(:%) and got away with it ;P
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<Hanmac> my usecase was: list.map(&filter.method(:%)).join(join)
<banister_> crome if his use of a lambda confuse his colleagues then they need to learn ruby better and stop being such rails kiddies
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<crome> I think code intent is more impotant. even with that not so pretty syntax, I expect my colleagues to understand what &method(:blah) does and I expect them to know where to look for "method". however, I wouldn't expect them to figure out why I used the constant+lambda way
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<crome> if I suspect my code would raise questions I would rather not write it that way
<Mon_Ouie> &method is more obscure than lambda. People even call '&' 'symbol-to-proc' sometimes.
<banister_> crome First of all, the &method(:blah) syntax was just an example, it's not the only case. Second, code "intent" has absolutely nothing to do with it -- and i don't know why you mentioned it. What is wrong with using a lambda? It's part of the language.
<banister_> crome and i agree with Mon_Ouie &method(:blah) is frikkin weird, there's 2 steps involved there, 1. you're converting a method to (effectively) a lambda 2. you're converting that lambda to a block
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<banister_> (in the case of a lambda there's only one (likely) step -> convert the lambda to a block with &)
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<Hanmac> hm in that case &method(:blah) should e optimised so it does not do two steps if possible
<mikecmpbll> i think the method `blah` should be named better, for readability.
<mikecmpbll> :P
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<banister_> crome mikecmpbll Mon_Ouie i use a lambda assigned to constant here for example: https://gist.github.com/2c40d5a24c00fb298381 ;0
<crome> banister_: I totally agree with your point about rails kiddies. I know very well your code wouldn't have passed our code review process. I have already quit.
<banister_> crome are you trying to be sarcastic or something?
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<crome> no, not really, I'm not
<crome> I'm not saying your code is wrong
<crome> I'm just speaking out of my own experience about what I think people understand more easily. and it's true that my experience is based on working with rails people
<banister_> admittedly it's dense, but i got it through my company code review by explaining how it worked in a hangout
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<banister_> and demonstrating the advantages in the approach (switching to call-back based rails controllers)
<Hanmac> yeah rails ... not validating the userinput and then whining when things like Marshal.load or YAML.load could create to much objects and cause a buffer overflow ...
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<banister_> Hanmac are you doing rails yet? :) or still PHP as a day job?
<atmosx> Hello
<crome> banister_: that's one thing to squeeze code through review by explaining things and then it is another to come back to it in 3 months and figure out what it does. especially if it's not you who have to update it
<crome> has*
<banister_> crome it's heavily commented, i stripped those out for the gist, there's also associated documentation in the wiki
<Hanmac> banister_: currently i do Haxe ... and use it to generate js code ;P
<banister_> Hanmac seriously? that's cool
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<banister_> Hanmac you get paid to write in haxe?
<Hanmac> banister_: currently yeah ... but it was a fit funky after i did unterstand how haxe works ... (hm i still prefer ruby and C++)
<banister_> Hanmac that's pretty interesting, your company chose to do haxe? or you're just doing it and actually committing the generated js?
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<Hanmac> about rails i read www.ruby-doc.org and i get "There was X Ruby vulnerability reports" ... and in 99% of the cases it has something todo with rails
<Hanmac> banister_: hm its currently the companies choice
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<mattias_> I'm adding a settings object to my user object.. but I can't really reach it in the view. It says that the function does not exist. Any ideas
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<mattias_> Oh.. forgot attr_reader =)
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<simpleuser> Hi. I’m a complete noob in ruby/gem and I’d like to use guard. I installed guard and ctags-composer with "sudo gem install guard" and "sudo gem install guard-ctags-composer".
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<simpleuser> I can do a "guard init ctags-composer" in one dir, but not in another one.
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<simpleuser> I get "/usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/dependency.rb:247:in `to_specs': Could not find guard (>= 0) amongst [actionmailer-4.0.8,…"
<jhass> simpleuser: make a gist with gem env and sudo gem env please
<atmosx> Guys
<atmosx> to store product and vat categories on a per user basis
<jhass> simpleuser: in both dirs, the working one and the not working one
<atmosx> What kind of models should I use?
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<atmosx> for vat I can use a table, make user choose or add elements to that table.
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<atmosx> but for categories?! use an 'String' type in MySQL and convert string to array? e.g. 'cat1, cat2, cat3'?
<Hanmac> atmosx: hm what means "vat" ?
<atmosx> Hanmac: added value tax
<jhass> Hanmac: mehrwertsteuer iirc
<Hanmac> ah ok
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<jhass> atmosx: why not ProductCategory?
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<atmosx> jhass: you mean another table?
<jhass> yeah
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<atmosx> jhass: I will have multiple users, how will this play out? each user will have its own categories?
<atmosx> hm
<Hanmac> atmosx: UserProductCategory: "user_id, product_id, cat_id" and use a primary key over all three
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<jhass> simpleuser: run the gem install's in the not working env again, this time without sudo
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<jhass> simpleuser: you got RVM in the "not working" env, so that's an entirely different ruby install activated there
<atmosx> Hanmac: hmmm that might work (thinking)
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<simpleuser> jhass: ok
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<Hanmac> atmosx: with that you might be able to save memory because you do not have a Catname more than once, and you can prevent that a user add a product to a cat more than once
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<jhass> simpleuser: btw. you can add multiple files to a gist
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<simpleuser> jhass: yeah, I always forget ^^
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<jhass> atmosx: not to forget renaming a category becomes a single row update
<atmosx> jhass: true.
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<atmosx> what about VAT thuogh, a user might have multiple VATs
<atmosx> ah no no
<atmosx> hm it's 1 vat per product, I got confused
<atmosx> okay
<atmosx> two more tables it is then
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<simpleuser> jhass: Oh
<simpleuser> now it works ^^
<simpleuser> thanks
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<shevy> dumdedum
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<AlexRussia> shevy: haha
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<gr33n7007h> How to get a array of of arguments from a method ?
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<gr33n7007h> [[ :a => req, :a=80 => optional]] something like that using parameters
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<AlexRussia> gr33n7007h: do you mean, how to make method with dynamic number of arguments?
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<gr33n7007h> no, I need the argument list in an array and what type of arguments they are: required, optional, variable ?
<AlexRussia> ...
<gr33n7007h> can't for the life of me remember
<gr33n7007h> oh nevermind found it
<AlexRussia> gr33n7007h: i guess, you have noc chance in this way, but may be i am wrong...
<AlexRussia> gr33n7007h: hm
<AlexRussia> gr33n7007h: and what is it?
<gr33n7007h> method(:blah).parameters
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<AlexRussia> @_@
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<AlexRussia> >>def foo(a=2,b=3){a+b};p method(:foo).parameters;
<eval-in__> AlexRussia => /tmp/execpad-deca6646de1f/source-deca6646de1f:2: syntax error, unexpected '}', expecting => ... (https://eval.in/196439)
<AlexRussia> >>def foo(a=2,b=3){a+b}p method(:foo).parameters;
<eval-in__> AlexRussia => /tmp/execpad-4ca8af08f2c5/source-4ca8af08f2c5:2: syntax error, unexpected '}', expecting => ... (https://eval.in/196440)
<AlexRussia> :/
<gr33n7007h> >> def blah(a, b=1234, *c); end; method(:blah).parameters
<eval-in__> gr33n7007h => [[:req, :a], [:opt, :b], [:rest, :c]] (https://eval.in/196441)
<AlexRussia> gr33n7007h: @_@
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<AlexRussia> gr33n7007h: but why do you want in that?
<gr33n7007h> just for something nothing really
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<AlexRussia> gr33n7007h: something nothing? :D
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<gr33n7007h> :D
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<gr33n7007h> thats my logic all over
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<AlexRussia> gr33n7007h: heh
<AlexRussia> gr33n7007h: i guess, i lost a little part of my logic....
<gr33n7007h> :)
<AlexRussia> gr33n7007h: f.e., what EFFECTIVE way to make string length 64 contain numbers in range 1..8?
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<gr33n7007h> hey?
<jhass> >> Array.new(64) { (1..8).to_a.sample }.join
<eval-in__> jhass => "6646112887535377372117632357388284272532882775136478887741773652" (https://eval.in/196444)
<AlexRussia> gr33n7007h: hat?
<AlexRussia> jhass: do you think make array is effective way?
<jhass> obviously, I just demonstrated it works. Very effective
<AlexRussia> jhass: srsly?
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<atmosx> F1 ready to go
<jhass> >> Array.new(64) { rand(8)+1 }.join
<eval-in__> jhass => "5757285184286216345756136364751265146838538118185166475371615526" (https://eval.in/196447)
<AlexRussia> atmosx: ?
<atmosx> AlexRussia: Singapore
<AlexRussia> jhass: @_@
<atmosx> bbl.
<jhass> 64 arrays less, if you're so worried about them
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<AlexRussia> jhass: hm....what about counting time of execution that code?
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<atmosx> AlexRussia: you seem like a big boy, benchmark it
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<AlexRussia> atmosx: :D
<AlexRussia> atmosx: >OK (0.060 sec real, 0.066 sec wall, 8 MB, 19 syscalls)
<jhass> that's not really a benchmark
<AlexRussia> not important
<atmosx> I was thinking about ruby Benchmark library.
<atmosx> anyway
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<AlexRussia> hm
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<AlexRussia> its intereting thing, thx jhass
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<yottanami> What is a best way to converting strings like this "a_sample_string" to this "A sample string"
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<AlexRussia> yottanami: string.first.capitalize?
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<AlexRussia> >> "lol".first.capitalize
<eval-in__> AlexRussia => undefined method `first' for "lol":String (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/196448)
<AlexRussia> okay
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<AlexRussia> >> "lol"[0].capitalize
<eval-in__> AlexRussia => "L" (https://eval.in/196449)
<AlexRussia> :/
<toretore> >>"a_sample_string".split('_').tap{|a| a[0].upcase }.join(' ')
<eval-in__> toretore => "a sample string" (https://eval.in/196450)
<toretore> fuck
<drizz> >> "a_sample_string".gsub('_', ' ').capitalize
<eval-in__> drizz => "A sample string" (https://eval.in/196451)
<toretore> >>"a_sample_string".split('_').tap{|a| a[0].upcase! }.join(' ')
<eval-in__> toretore => "A sample string" (https://eval.in/196452)
<AlexRussia> toretore: @_@
<drizz> there you go
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<drizz> however, ActiveRecord has methods for doing stuff like that
<drizz> ActiveSupport even
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<AlexRussia> drizz: however its part of RoR AFAIK
<yottanami> AlexRussia: I mean changing "_" to " " and capitalize
<gr33n7007h> yottanami, "a_sample_string".split("_").join(' ').capitalize
<drizz> ActiveSupport is independent of RoR
<AlexRussia> yottanami: ops,really
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<AlexRussia> drizz: :)
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<AlexRussia> jhass: #singletone_class was not in 1.8?
<jhass> I guess not
<jhass> why worry though, 1.8 past EOL
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<AlexRussia> jhass: just i found here some RELP in online, there no that thing and it 1.8.x version, i tried __id__ and it works
<AlexRussia> jhass: LOL
<AlexRussia> jhass: LOL EOL
<AlexRussia> :D
<jhass> ?
<AlexRussia> jhass: nm
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<toretore> ;D ;D ;D
<AlexRussia> toretore: ?
<toretore> ?
<toretore> ;D ;D ;D ???
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<AlexRussia> toretore: ???
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<toretore> lol ;D ;D
<AlexRussia> toretore: what?
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<shevy> what is the shortest way to alias one class method to another?
<shevy> I assume it is via class << self right?
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<Hanmac> yxhuvud: newest version without extra classes https://gist.github.com/Hanmac/cb9e13ff220e4f31e13a write_file_dev_dep got replaced by write_file_dep and some other little changes (i only need to be careful when i replace it with a class instance methods)
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<decci> I am getting error while installing redmine plugins http://94.242.254.47/
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<decci> Please suggest http://94.242.254.47/
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<sevenseacat> or you can gist the error with any other information we might need to help you fix it.
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<Hanmac> decci: isnt there already a howto fix that problem?
<decci> Hanmac: I ran the command listed but it didnt work. let me paste it
<AlexRussia> :)
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<wasamasa> "didnt work" is surely the greatest error description ever
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<wasamasa> why are you even running bundler as root ._.
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<Hanmac> decci you need first to navigate the folder were the app is so it can find the gemfile
<decci> Hanmac: What is the folder location
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<Hanmac> how should i know that?
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<Hanmac> if you had read your page: Application root /var/www/redmine
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<sevenseacat> lol
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<wasamasa> decci: is that your application?
<wasamasa> decci: or are you just the guy who was assigned to fix it
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<decci> wasamasa: I was just following http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/install_Redmine_25x_on_Centos_65_complete to get redmine plugin. Redmine uses ruby packages
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<wasamasa> `cd /var/www/redmine`
<wasamasa> that tells it all, no?
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<decci> wasamasa: While I installed and followed the steps, it went fine. But while I tried installing http://www.redmine.org/plugins/redmine_checklists it went wrong
<decci> It is plugin ..any idea how shall I revert or fix it
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<unshadow> Hi guys :) , I need help in something, I'm trying to create a multi-threaded TCP server, it looks like its working but something is weird, one connection gets served and the other also gets served but then is stuck :\ the code is here: http://pastie.org/9581173
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<decci> wasamasa: I ran this command to install plugin and it went fine run bundle exec rake redmine:plugins NAME=redmine_issuechecklist RAILS_ENV=production
<decci> wasamasa: How shall I remove this plugin back
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<unshadow> wasamasa: you cant walk away ! hahah help the IRC guys ;)
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<ariera> hi guys
<havenwood> hey
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<ariera> one question, is there a simpler (less redundant) way of writing something like this: my_hash.each{ |k,v| yield(k,v) }
<canton7> pass the block directly to my_hash.each?
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<crome> ^
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<ariera> alright!
<ariera> that was easy :D
<canton7> :)
<ariera> thank you canton7
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<crome> does anyone happen to have a hp spectre?
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<pontiki> the ghost of hp still haunts me....
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<dotrb> Hi everyone
<dotrb> what is the difference between json api request and x-www-form-urlencoded request??
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<shevy> wow
<shevy> Hash has a .shift method
<shevy> did you guys know this?
<pontiki> ya, been there for quite a while
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<naftilos76> Hi, is there a way to tell whether a string is binary or not? The binary strings are calculated as having double the actual chars. Is there a way to tell?
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<jhass> naftilos76: do you search for .bytesize or what do you mean?
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<naftilos76> I need to know whether the string contains english or greek chars. I use netbeans 6.9.1 to debug and i can see that the debugger recons greek chars as binary data.
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<pontiki> oh, i think those are double-byte characters in UTF-8
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<naftilos76> yeap
<jhass> how about .match(/\p{Greek}/)
<naftilos76> let me have a try
<naftilos76> i am not looking for a string pattern
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<jhass> you said you want to know whether your string contains any greek characters
<naftilos76> yes
<naftilos76> ok give me a sec
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<pontiki> naftilos76: jhass is referring to this section: http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.2/Regexp.html#class-Regexp-label-Character+Properties -- you can check if a string contains Greek characters
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<Lewix> hello guys
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<naftilos76> i get an error at irb
<naftilos76> warning: regexp has invalid interval
<naftilos76> warning: regexp has `}' without escape
<naftilos76> the string was in a var called tmp
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<naftilos76> and i did tmp.match(/\p{Greek}/)
<pontiki> naftilos76: !code
<helpa> naftilos76: We cannot help you with your problem if you don't show us your code. Please put it on http://gist.github.com and give us the URL so we can see it.
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<jhass> naftilos76: what's your ruby version?
<naftilos76> 1.8.7
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<jhass> that might be the issue
<jhass> 1.8 is EOL'd
<naftilos76> well...
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<naftilos76> i cannot just change ver
<naftilos76> is there another way?
<jhass> why not?
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<jhass> >> "Καλώς ήλθατε στη".match(/\p{Greek}/)
<jhass> meh, still unicode is still broken
<jhass> (for the bot here)
<mikecmpbll> => #<MatchData "Κ">
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<jhass> 18>> "".match(/\p{Greek}/)
<eval-in__> jhass => /tmp/execpad-dc8c2a2e2b36/source-dc8c2a2e2b36:2: warning: regexp has invalid interval ... (https://eval.in/196515)
<jhass> 19>> "".match(/\p{Greek}/)
<eval-in__> jhass => /tmp/execpad-ce5ef1f020da/source-ce5ef1f020da:2: invalid character property name {Greek}: /\p{Greek}/ (https://eval.in/196516)
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<jhass> mmh
<jhass> 19>> RUBY_DESCRIPTION
<eval-in__> jhass => "ruby 1.9.3p547 (2014-05-14 revision 45962) [i686-linux]" (https://eval.in/196517)
<jhass> interesting, works here
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<jhass> 20>> "".match(/\p{Greek}/)
<eval-in__> jhass => nil (https://eval.in/196518)
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<naftilos76> jpass: thanks man
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<atmosx> hello
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<benzrf> fix your shit charliesome!!!
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<benzrf> decci
<benzrf> it literally says right in the error
<benzrf> >*********** icu required (brew install icu4c or apt-get install libicu-dev) ***********
<decci> benzrf: gem install libicu-dev ERROR: Could not find a valid gem 'libicu-dev' (>= 0) in any repository
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<decci> I am using CentOS 6.5
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<benzrf> decci: brew and apt-get are system package managers
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<decci> benzrf: yes I used gem install
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<benzrf> decci: gem is not a system package manager
<benzrf> it's a ruby package manager
<benzrf> decci: would you do `gem install firefox'
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<decci> benzrf: gem installs the packages related to ruby
<decci> benzrf: I use yum install <package>
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<benzrf> decci: yes, there you go
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<decci> benzrf: It went well now but now it shows Cannot execute "/usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.3-p547/gems/passenger-4.0.50/buildout/agents/SpawnPreparer": No such file or directory (errno=2)
<benzrf> no idea
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<jintelletec> looking to speak to Any ruby devs interested in opportunities working for bitcoin/crypto companies ( across the globe)
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<shevy> <jhass> meh, still unicode is still broken <-- did I not always say this :)
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<jhass> out of context quote (next line is context)
<jhass> and this wouldn't be a problem if everything would just default to unicode!
<shevy> oh you get into my list of quotes now!
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<shevy> oh there are good quotes here
<shevy> <shevy> wallerdev why do you hate your dad so much
<shevy> <wallerdev> haha if i hated my dad id ask him to learn rails just to make a one page site with a couple images on it
<shevy> oh... wallerdev is not here :(
* riceandbeans has done that before
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<shevy> hmm
<shevy> I have received a strange bug report
<shevy> sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
<shevy> this is supposed to be from a ruby file without a .rb end
<shevy> how can this happen? could this happen because of a wrongful she-bang line or something?
<shevy> he invokes it via: "name_of_the_script foo.mp3"
<shevy> which should be the same as "name_of_the_script.rb foo.mp3" really ... hmm but somehow, his shell seems to want to think that this must be invoked via sh
<shevy> he uses OSX, I use linux
<shevy> what would be the default shebang line for ruby on OSX?
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<Hanmac> shevy the problem is not the shebang, i think the problem is the lineending
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<lukevinc> how i convert a constant in variable? i already take a copy of a constant, but the problem is it still being a constant, i can't modify.
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<Phrogz_> lukevinc: What does "convert a constant in variable" mean?
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<jhass> shevy: I'd go for shebang, what do you have for it?
<lukevinc> Phrogz: i'm trying to modify a copy of a constant array: can't modify frozen Array (RuntimeError)
<jhass> lukevinc: how did you copy it
<lukevinc> daynames = Date::ABBR_DAYNAMES
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<Phrogz> lukevinc: Why do you want to modify it?
<jhass> lukevinc: that doesn't copy it. you need to call dup or clone
<lukevinc> i want to add day in the final of Sun, Mon, Tue, etc.
<Phrogz> Why?
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<Phrogz> (Take a step back: what are you trying to accomplish?)
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<lukevinc> Just for fancy.
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<cleopatra> where ic an upload imagen
<Phrogz> You're not feeling the spirit of what I'm trying to ask you.
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<Phrogz> lukevinc: You can't modify a frozen array. If you describe what your end goal is, perhaps we can help you accomplish it.
<lukevinc> ok, there is a way to unlock the array, jhass says clone and dup, is it?
<lukevinc> i don't want to modify the constant, i want to modify the copy of constant
<Phrogz> lukevinc: You can get a new array that has the same content as the original, but what won't cause Date::ABBR_DAYNAMES to use it. Do you care about that?
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<Phrogz> lukevinc: Then call any method on the array that will create a new array, not mutate it. .dup is one such simple method.
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<lukevinc> i don't how i do this without a create a unnecessary variable.
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<Phrogz> lukevinc: my_daynames = Date::ABBR_DAYNAMES.dup
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<lukevinc> day_names.map! do |s| s << "day" end: can't modify frozen String (RuntimeError)
<lukevinc> haha, now the error is in the string.
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<Phrogz> my_days = Date::ABBR_DAYNAMES.map{ |s| "#{s}day" }
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<lukevinc> Phrogz: why it didn't recognized s << "day" as append?
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<Phrogz> lukevinc: It did, and that's the problem. String#<< attempts to *mutate* the string, adding content to the end. See this:
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<Phrogz> >> s = "hello"; x = s; x << " world"; puts s
<eval-in__> Phrogz => hello world ... (https://eval.in/196552)
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<Phrogz> If you had used s + "day" instead it would have created a new String instance.
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<lukevinc> that makes sense, but in map it doesn't work.
<lukevinc> can i do s = s << "day"?
<Phrogz> I don't know what you mean by what you just said. It was vague. "Doctor, help, it doesn't work!"
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<Phrogz> lukevinc: No, you cannot do that if s refers to a frozen string, because s << "day" tries to mutate it.
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<lukevinc> so in map i can't assign directly to a variable, i just put the (return) value
<cleopatra> hello ruby channel :P
<Phrogz> lukevinc: In map you *can* assign directly to a variable. You cannot, however, mutate a frozen object (whether you are inside map or anywhere else).
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<Phrogz> Good day, cleopatra
<cleopatra> Phrogz, thank you
<lukevinc> i didn't understood, it was a strange behavior, but my objective was complete.
<P-NuT> What's the best xml parser in ruby?
<Phrogz> P-NuT: Nokogiri
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<lukevinc> Phrogz: thanks my friend.
<cleopatra> wher ic an upload imagen?
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<P-NuT> cool thanks
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<Phrogz> cleopatra: You said that before. Nobody answered you because it does not make sense.
<jhass> cleopatra: http://bit.ly/UjQJ07
<Phrogz> P-NuT: Well, depends on what you mean by "best" :) REXML is most convenient, bc it comes with Ruby.
<Phrogz> >> a = [1,2,3]; a.map{ |n| x=n*2; y = x*2; x.to_s + y.to_s }
<eval-in__> Phrogz => ["24", "48", "612"] (https://eval.in/196553)
<cleopatra> I ask in this channel?
<cleopatra> sorry for double ask :(
<Phrogz> lukevinc: ^^ see, you can assign variables inside map
<lukevinc> put map!
<Phrogz> cleopatra: Are you asking for help with Ruby on Rails? If so, try #rubyonrails
<Phrogz> >> a = [1,2,3]; a.map!{ |n| x=n*2; y = x*2; x.to_s + y.to_s }
<eval-in__> Phrogz => ["24", "48", "612"] (https://eval.in/196554)
<lukevinc> i tried in a normal array, it works
<Phrogz> lukevinc: If you have another question, post some code and ask it.
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<lukevinc> nah, i don't will try to fight with the language, thanks my friend.
<cleopatra> jhass, i am using Google but but on some channels, not accepted, use sites like tinypic
<jhass> well, we talk about code here, so why not use a paste service to share code anyway ;)
<Phrogz> cleopatra: You are asking how to paste an image to show us here? Use any image service, and paste the URL here?
<Phrogz> But yes, if you are trying to show us code, use http://pastie.org or http://gist.github.com/ instead of an image.
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<cleopatra> yeah, but I got confused the channel
<cleopatra> I was asking in the JavaScript channel
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<cleopatra> Phrogz, thanks for the tip sorry for the silly questions, but I'm new in irc channels
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<Phrogz> Not a problem.
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<cleopatra> :)
* cleopatra dance
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