#ruby on 2014-05-29 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:08 <bmurt> wallerdev: looks like the css selector would require more analysis to use because the classes are the same

00:08 <bmurt> through the entire table

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00:13 <apeiros> shevy:

00:13 <apeiros> >> class String; def nom; self[1..-1]; end; end; "blah".nom

00:13 <eval-in__> apeiros => "lah" (https://eval.in/156823)

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00:14 <apeiros> >> class String; def nom; self[1..-1]; end; end; "blah".nom.nom.nom

00:14 <eval-in__> apeiros => "h" (https://eval.in/156824)

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00:19 <shevy> I am scared of modifying core thingies

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00:21 <shevy> should I go C or should I go java to complement ruby

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00:24 <wallerdev> depends what you want to accomplish

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00:25 <wallerdev> if you want to write ugly interfaces that are slow and cross platform, go with java

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00:27 <shevy> lol

00:28 <shevy> wallerdev I feel I should invest into either of these two right now, pure ruby alone does not really seem to bring me forward

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00:28 <wallerdev> depends really what you want to work on

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00:28 <wallerdev> low level stuff or high level stuff

00:28 <shevy> hmm

00:29 <shevy> everything

00:29 <wallerdev> java is pretty similar to ruby

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00:29 <wallerdev> id go with C just to learn about things like manual memory management

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00:42 <kl0_> I'd say C# or C++ if those are an option

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00:43 <eam> anything but C++

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00:43 <eam> C is much, much cleaner for a student

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00:44 <shevy> AH01215: dependency.rb:298 :in `to_specs': Could not find 'configuration' (= 1.0.2) - did find: [configuration-1.0.7] (Gem::LoadError)

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00:45 <shevy> is there a way to find out which program wants a specific version?

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00:46 <shevy> oh found it

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00:46 <shevy> one .rb file had a call to gem()

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01:08 <havenwood> shevy: how about Clojure or Golang?

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01:10 <shevy> can't really pick something exotic where I am unsure if the return of investment is worth it

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01:17 <alsu> how can I define a method on a module such that it ends up as a class method when the module is included in a class?

01:17 <apeiros> alsu: no

01:17 <apeiros> but you can use extend in the class

01:17 <apeiros> which adds a module's instance methods as class methods to the class

01:18 <alsu> unfortunately, I can’t. the interface here is that I pass in a module, and a library I didn’t write constructs an instance of their class and includes my module

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01:20 <shevy> alsu you can not use extend in the class?

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01:21 <alsu> shevy: am not given the class to extend

01:21 <shevy> how do you want to pass the information to your class then that something else should extend it

01:21 <cashnguns> I was really thinking about picking up a new language like java or c, is java really that bad?

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01:21 <pakcjo> hello, I need help with ruby in ubuntu server

01:21 <shevy> alsu uhm? it is ruby or? I mean you can modify everything at runtime

01:21 <alsu> shevy: sure, except I don’t have a reference to it

01:22 <pakcjo> I'm getting "undefined method `name' for "actionmailer":String"

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01:22 <alsu> the library, which is not my code, does: Class.new(klass) {include my_module}

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01:22 <pakcjo> it seems that I have ruby 1.8 and ruby 1.9.3

01:23 <shevy> I guess include won't allow you to get a class method on your class

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01:23 <pakcjo> but the backtrace of the error shows 1.8

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01:24 <shevy> pakcjo you should decide which one to use

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01:24 <havenwood> pakcjo: sudo update-alternatives --config gem

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01:25 <pakcjo> shevy: how? also the app says that it needs rails 3.2 but I have 2.3.14 gem -v shows 1.8.15

01:25 <shevy> yeah get rid of the old ruby

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01:26 <pakcjo> havenwood: this is what I did: http://pastebin.com/cJkj1004

01:27 <havenwood> pakcjo: don't you want to be using 1.9.1?

01:27 <havenwood> pakcjo: sudo update-alternatives --config ruby

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01:27 <havenwood> pakcjo: I'd suggest setting them to ruby1.9.1 and gem1.9.1 (Ruby 1.9.3).

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01:27 <havenwood> pakcjo: then `bundle` or otherwise install the gems you need

01:28 <pakcjo> havenwood: I just did

01:28 <pakcjo> bundle?

01:28 <havenwood> pakcjo: 1.8 is dead.

01:28 <havenwood> pakcjo: 1.9.3, 2.0 or 2.1 are fine.

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01:28 <pakcjo> do I need to restart apache?

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01:30 <havenwood> pakcjo: What kind of Ruby apps are you running? Is Apache acting as a reverse proxy to a Rack webserver?

01:31 <havenwood> pakcjo: Bundler is a popular tool for managing project dependencies: http://bundler.io/

01:31 <pakcjo> havenwood: redmine, it was working fine with old ubuntu, I just upgrade and now it doesn't

01:31 <havenwood> pakcjo: Many apps have a Gemfile in the root directory and running `bundle` installs the deps.

01:31 <pakcjo> havenwood: I think it's working as rack

01:31 <havenwood> pakcjo: is there a Gemfile?

01:32 <havenwood> pakcjo: you said actionmailer, so Rails?

01:32 <pakcjo> /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require': cannot load such file -- phusion_passenger/utils (LoadError)

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01:32 <havenwood> the plot thickens, a passenger apache module

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01:33 <pakcjo> I have a Rakefile

01:33 <havenwood> right

01:33 <pakcjo> but I don't see gems

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01:33 <havenwood> pakcjo: no Gemfile?

01:33 <havenwood> pakcjo: A Rails 2 app?

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01:34 <havenwood> pakcjo: your Rack webserver is Phusion Passenger, so that's what you need to get working: http://www.modrails.com/documentation/Users%20guide%20Apache.html

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01:34 <pakcjo> it sasys it requires Rails 3.2

01:34 <havenwood> at least for that ;)

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01:34 <havenwood> pakcjo: so there should be a Gemfile >.>

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01:35 <pakcjo> havenwood: how should I search for it? *.gem?

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01:35 <havenwood> pakcjo: a file literally named "Gemfile"

01:35 <havenwood> pakcjo: in the project's root dir

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01:36 <pakcjo> no, no Gemfile

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01:37 <pakcjo> ok, with ruby 1.8 i got an error page from passenger, now I get internal error

01:37 <pakcjo> also it seems that there's no package available for rails 3.2

01:38 <havenwood> pakcjo: Rails 3 has baked in support for bundler, including a Gemfile. So... are you sure you're on Rails 3.2?

01:38 <havenwood> pakcjo: You need to build the passenger apache module.

01:38 <havenwood> pakcjo: But figure out what kind of app this is. :P

01:39 <havenwood> pakcjo: http://www.modrails.com/documentation/Users%20guide%20Apache.html#installation

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01:39 <havenwood> pakcjo: I think there is a phusion passenger channel.

01:39 <havenwood> pakcjo: #rubyonrails

01:39 <pakcjo> havenwood: thanks

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02:06 <prepangolin> Hello guys

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02:06 <shevy> hi prepangolin

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02:09 <prepangolin> I've Is anyone has experience install RVM(Ruby Version Manager) on Ubuntu?

02:09 <prepangolin> I've one problem. Here it is: pastebin.ubuntu.com/7540724

02:09 <prepangolin> Please help me.

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02:14 <havenwood> prepangolin: does a regular `sudo apt-get update` work?

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02:20 <prepangolin> hello

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02:21 <prepangolin> I've something to ask about installation of RVM on ubuntu

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02:23 <havenwood> prepangolin: hi

02:24 <havenwood> prepangolin: did you see my previous question? (Does `sudo apt-get update` work apart from RVM?)

02:24 <bricker`LA> One of our servers was compromised but I can't figure out how.

02:24 <havenwood> bricker`LA: :O

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02:25 <bricker`LA> The only publicly accessible port is 80, with nginx running on it right now, everything else is behind a VPN

02:26 <prepangolin> havenwood: I want to know more about from you.

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02:27 <havenwood> prepangolin: Well, I don't know if your apt-get is able to update. I'm asking.

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02:27 <prepangolin> I see.

02:27 <havenwood> prepangolin: You know what apt-get is?

02:28 <havenwood> prepangolin: Does the command fail or succeed?: sudo apt-get update

02:28 <prepangolin> Failed

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02:28 <havenwood> weirdly you put above that it didn't fail: test@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update

02:29 <prepangolin> you can check it on pastebin.ubuntu.com/7540724

02:29 <prepangolin> It's about this problem.

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02:30 <prepangolin> See last part of this.

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02:32 <prepangolin> Hi havenwood: what about?

02:32 <prepangolin> What about this problem

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02:32 <prepangolin> Can you see any difference?

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02:33 <havenwood> prepangolin: remove `dr3mro/nautilus-actions-extra` from your `/etc/apt/sources.list` or wherever it si

02:33 <havenwood> is*

02:34 <prepangolin> I see

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02:34 <havenwood> prepangolin: that broken source is causing an error and the rvm script is failing

02:34 <prepangolin> You mean there is an error /etc/apt/sources.list isn't it?

02:34 <havenwood> yeah, a bad ppa

02:34 <havenwood> bad source

02:35 <havenwood> removing the offending source that's causing the 404

02:35 <havenwood> should fix the error

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02:35 <prepangolin> Okay

02:35 <prepangolin> Let me check.

02:35 <benzrf> hey

02:36 <havenwood> benzrf: hi

02:36 <benzrf> i have some data that my app generates

02:36 <benzrf> [sinatra]

02:36 <benzrf> i want to put it into a template, but the content is loaded by js

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02:36 <benzrf> is it considered acceptable to use a template to render a js array?

02:36 <benzrf> inb4 use ajax

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02:39 <benzrf> ?

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02:39 <havenwood> benzrf: maybe consider using Sinatra's support for event-stream

02:40 <havenwood> https://gist.github.com/rkh/1476463

02:40 <havenwood> https://gist.github.com/maccman/2992949

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02:41 <pakcjo> I'm stuck :(

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02:41 <havenwood> pakcjo: did you figure out if you have a Rails app? :P

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02:42 <pakcjo> havenwood: it's rails, just that maybe not 3.x

02:42 <havenwood> pakcjo: `ls` in the project root dir and Gist the result

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02:42 <pakcjo> havenwood: inside the app there's a RAILS_GEM_VERSION that points to 2.3.11

02:42 <havenwood> pakcjo: i'm thinking maybe Rails 2 (maybe you want to stick with 1.8) >.> and you just need to get passenger working

02:42 <havenwood> pakcjo: yup, then a 2.3.11 app

02:43 <havenwood> pakcjo: Rails app

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02:44 <pakcjo> ok, I'll go back to 1.8 then

02:44 <pakcjo> ok, ruby and gems back to 1.8

02:45 <havenwood> pakcjo: i'm wondering if passenger was installed as a gem and you need to update it or if it was an apt-get package

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02:46 <havenwood> pakcjo: sudo gem list passenger

02:46 <pakcjo> ii passenger 1:4.0.43-1~precise1

02:46 <pakcjo> ii libapache2-mod-passenger 1:4.0.43-1~precise1

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02:47 <prepangolin> hevenwood: Hi

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02:48 <havenwood> pakcjo: I don't know if you need to run `passenger-install-apache2-module` and follow instructions or what to get passenger happy. Check if it just works after restarting Apache.

02:48 <havenwood> pakcjo: You might need to ask the passenger folk for help, I'm not familiar.

02:48 <havenwood> prepangolin: hi

02:48 <prepangolin> hi

02:48 <pakcjo> undefined method `name' for "actionmailer":String (NoMethodError) /var/lib/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.3.11/lib/rails/gem_dependency.rb:277:in `==' /usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.8/rubygems/dependency.rb:217:in `===' /usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.8/rubygems/dependency.rb:217:in `matching_specs' /usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:55:in `find_all'

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02:49 <prepangolin> I checked it, still. I must be dumb. Please check this : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7540945/

02:49 <pakcjo> havenwood: but I don't think the problem is with passenger

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02:50 <havenwood> prepangolin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41605/trouble-downloading-updates-due-to-a-hash-sum-mismatch-error

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02:50 <havenwood> pakcjo: yeah, seems maybe an old version of rubygems is required?

02:51 <havenwood> pakcjo: running a past end-of-life rails on a past end-of-life ruby isn't easy

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02:51 <havenwood> pakcjo: might try #rubyonrails

02:51 <pakcjo> they seem to be all sleeping :(

02:51 <prepangolin> havenwood: Here's the content of my sources.list file- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7540967/

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02:52 <havenwood> prepangolin: other files in that dir?

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02:52 <havenwood> prepangolin: did you try the suggestion in the link i pasted? or maybe look at apt-cache?

02:52 <prepangolin> Yeah

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02:53 <havenwood> prepangolin: we might should move discussion to #rvm, someone there might spot the issue before i do

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02:54 <prepangolin> havenwood: I see.

02:54 <havenwood> prepangolin: though like you say, RVM only seems to be running into some system misconfiguration

02:54 <havenwood> prepangolin: bad ppa source or hash mismatch or something wonky :O

02:55 <prepangolin> Yeah

02:55 <prepangolin> havenwood: thanks

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02:55 <havenwood> pakcjo: rails 2 is before my time. i started ruby when rails 3 and ruby 1.9 first came out. i'm lost with rails 2.

02:56 <pakcjo> this doesn't make sense I get: App 6061 stderr: Missing the Rails 2.3.11 gem. Please `gem install -v=2.3.11 rails` (from apache logs)

02:56 <havenwood> pakcjo: maybe you just need to reinstall the gems?

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02:56 <havenwood> pakcjo: you have ruby 1.8 and gem 1.8 selected with update-alternatives?

02:56 <pakcjo> oh wait... gem list is empty now...

02:56 <pakcjo> yes

02:57 <havenwood> pakcjo: then need to get those gems installed

02:57 <havenwood> pakcjo: which in Rails 3+ is `bundle` and in Rails 2 is... I have no clue.

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02:57 <havenwood> pakcjo: ask again in #rubyonraisl

02:57 <havenwood> #rubyonrails

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02:58 <havenwood> pakcjo: unless someone else here is familiar with rails 2

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02:59 <havenwood> pakcjo: googling it it appears: rake gems:install

02:59 <pakcjo> I did this: gem install rubygems-update -v 1.3.5

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02:59 <pakcjo> and then update_rubygems --version=1.3.5

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03:01 <havenwood> pakcjo: is there a rake task for?: rake gems:install

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03:02 <pakcjo> require 'tasks/rails' only

03:02 <pakcjo> it seems that what I did removed all the gems

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03:02 <havenwood> pakcjo: so running `rake gems:install` does nothing? produces an error?

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03:02 <pakcjo> ( gem install rubygems-update -v 1.3.5 && update_rubygems --version=1.3.5)

03:03 <pakcjo> error

03:03 <pakcjo> rake aborted!

03:03 <pakcjo> ERROR: 'rake/rdoctask' is obsolete and no longer supported. Use 'rdoc/task' (available in RDoc 2.4.2+) instead.

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03:04 <havenwood> pakcjo: prolly better to wait on #rubyonrails than have me guessing about rails 2

03:04 <pakcjo> :)

03:04 <havenwood> in the way that one installs gems for rails 2, do that :P

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03:05 <havenwood> or the better thing would of course be updating to a modern rails and ruby!

03:06 <havenwood> but at a minimum you need to get the gems working, seems you have passenger trying to serve it up

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03:06 <havenwood> pakcjo: my last thought would be to ensure that passenger is using the ruby configured by update-alternatives (but i'd think it should be)

03:07 <pakcjo> yes it is

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03:09 <pakcjo> rails requires rake (>= 0.8.3, runtime)

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03:10 <pakcjo> ii rake 0.9.2.2-2

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04:00 <ponga> what's the terminal commands to set current&default? rvm use default ruby-2.1.2 not working

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04:00 <havenwood> ponga: rvm use --default ruby-2.1.2

04:00 <ponga> ahhah

04:00 <ponga> forgot --

04:00 <ponga> thanks

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04:00 <havenwood> np

04:00 <ponga> oh, havenwood , i had my shoes sorted out

04:00 <ponga> thank again

04:01 <havenwood> ponga: :)

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04:02 <ponga> havenwood, im only off from recently finishing codecademy tutorials on ruby coding, is there any good web book or source

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04:04 <havenwood> ponga: hem, like intermediate level Ruby?

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04:05 <ponga> havenwood, yes where i could get some guideline on how to read ruby APIs too

04:06 <ponga> codecademy only seemed to teach me basic styles

04:06 <pakcjo> got it working :p

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04:11 <bricker`LA> Okay, who can do it shorter:

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04:11 <bricker`LA> (1..100).each {|n| by3, by5 = (n%3==0), (n%5==0); puts(case; when by3 && by5; "FizzBuzz"; when by3; "Fizz"; when by5; "Buzz"; else n; end)}

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04:12 <ponga> i believe sir havenwood would answer my question...soon..

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04:12 <benzrf> (1..100).each{|n|by3,by5=(n%3==0),(n%5==0);puts(case;when by3&&by5;"FizzBuzz";when by3;"Fizz";when by5;"Buzz";else n;end)}

04:12 <benzrf> bricker`LA: ;)

04:12 <bricker`LA> :P

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04:14 <benzrf> (1..100).map{|n|case;when n%15==0;"FizzBuzz";when n%5==0;"Buzz";when n%3==0;"Fizz"}

04:15 <benzrf> (1..100).map{|n|case;when n%15==0;"FizzBuzz";when n%5==0;"Buzz";when n%3==0;"Fizz";else;n;end}.

04:15 <benzrf> puts (1..100).map{|n|case;when n%15==0;"FizzBuzz";when n%5==0;"Buzz";when n%3==0;"Fizz";else;n;end}.join "\n"

04:15 <benzrf> (1..100).each{|n|by3,by5=(n%3==0),(n%5==0);puts(case;when by3&&by5;"FizzBuzz";when by3;"Fizz";when by5;"Buzz";else n;end)}

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04:15 <benzrf> yours is longer i think

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04:15 <bricker`LA> benzrf: lol, if you take out the spaces in mine it's the exact same length

04:16 <benzrf> hmm?

04:16 <bricker`LA> benzrf: oh nevermind, I was looking at the wrong lines

04:16 <benzrf> haha_:

04:16 <rkazak_> are spaces siginifant!

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04:17 <benzrf> http://livescript.net/blog/fizzbuzzbazz.html#current-winner

04:17 <havenwood> pong, oh he left

04:17 <havenwood> i had work call >.>

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04:18 <havenwood> tis late!

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04:28 <prepangolin> Hullo guys

04:29 <jxf> Why does Ruby report small arrays as taking up "0" bytes? How is that possible?

04:29 <prepangolin> I've something to ask you

04:29 <jxf> (This is in MRI, sorry.)

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04:29 <havenwood> jxf: How is it reporting?

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04:30 <prepangolin> That's about the using "rvm install 1.9.3"command. Here it is

04:30 <prepangolin> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7541365/

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04:30 <jxf> havenwood: It's reporting 0 bytes: a = [1, 2]; ObjectSpace.memsize_of a # => 0

04:30 <havenwood> prepangolin: update to latest RVM and try again: rvm get latest

04:31 <havenwood> prepangolin: seems fuzzy matching didn't work

04:31 <havenwood> prepangolin: if updating RVM doesn't work, ask again in #rvm

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04:32 <rkazak_> or switch to chruby+ruby-install ;) - just kidding!!!

04:32 <havenwood> rkazak_: ;)

04:32 * havenwood goes back to happily using chruby.

04:33 <jxf> Interestingly if I give it 4 elements then it reports a more reasonable value: a = [1, 2, 3, 4]; ObjectSpace.memsize_of a # => 32

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04:34 <rkazak_> a bug then.

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04:35 <prepangolin> havenwood: Let me know where is the latest version of RVM. I can't enter the #rvm. Will you do me a favor?

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04:36 <rkazak_> https://rvm.io/

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04:36 <havenwood> prepangolin: why can't you go in the #rvm chan? is nick reg required? really?

04:36 <havenwood> prepangolin: 1.25.26

04:37 <jxf> rkazak_: I don't think it's likely to be a bug, I think it's just not (by design) counting certain things, like maybe the object header isn't part of the count

04:37 <prepangolin> havenwood: Me to need to be indentified to enter there. And What is it 1.25.26 you paste me?

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04:38 <havenwood> prepangolin: latest rvm version

04:38 <havenwood> prepangolin: /msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com

04:39 <rkazak_> jxf: Hmmm.

04:39 <jxf> rkazak_: nm, couldn't find the documentation before but I see now that it says "this information is incomplete, and should only be taken as a hint"

04:39 <jxf> so it seems like it's just not particularly accurate on purpose

04:39 <rkazak_> http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.2/ObjectSpace.html

04:39 <havenwood> jxf: https://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/4405317

04:40 <rkazak_> ok.

04:40 <havenwood> 128 bytes

04:40 <jxf> havenwood: ah, very cool! thanks <3

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04:41 <jxf> trying to plan ahead for how much memory I'm going to need for various dataset manipulation things, but now I'm getting the feeling that it's probably best to just try it and see

04:41 <havenwood> jxf: that, i think!

04:42 <havenwood> prepangolin: just specify the exact version you want

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04:42 <havenwood> prepangolin: rvm install 1.9.3-p547

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05:09 <bricker`LA> nothing is worse than writing hacky code :(

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05:12 <rkazak_> nothing? - how abour losing that lottery ticket in your washing machine…

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05:15 <bricker`LA> rkazak_: nope

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05:16 <rkazak_> :)

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05:33 <alsu> anyone have experience with IRB internals? I’m trying to connect the input and output to a socket

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05:45 <TTilus> alsu: don't

05:45 <alsu> TTilus: but but but

05:46 <TTilus> alsu: if you need to customized console, use pry

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05:46 <TTilus> s/to //

05:46 <alsu> TTilus: I looked at pry. I don’t like “cd” as a concept for console action

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05:47 <TTilus> alsu: do you like customizeability?

05:47 <TTilus> alsu: because irb does not have it

05:48 <alsu> TTilus: actually, I don’t care about custimizability. I just need a remote shell

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05:48 <TTilus> ssh user@host pry

05:49 <alsu> no pry

05:50 <TTilus> well, you have been warned

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05:50 <alsu> and by remote I really just mean external to the process, not external to the machine

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05:52 <eam> alsu: you'll need a tty

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05:54 <alsu> eam: for what?

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05:54 <TTilus> alsu: what for?

05:54 <TTilus> hah :)

05:54 <alsu> heh

05:54 <alsu> TTilus: to inspect a running server

05:54 <eam> if you want to run irb connected to a socket, yeah?

05:54 <TTilus> ah, that explains

05:55 <alsu> eam: yes

05:55 <TTilus> alsu: i once tried with irb, it went dirty as hell

05:55 <TTilus> alsu: ended up using pry-remote

05:55 <TTilus> alsu: if you don't like cd, just don't use it ;)

05:56 <eam> it's an interesting general question, in any event

05:56 <alsu> I have the input working, but the output is not. I think IRB is just incomplete here

05:57 <eam> alsu: what do you have so far?

05:58 <alsu> eam: I construct an IRB::Irb.new with my own InputMethod and OutputMethod, but the OutputMethod is not being used

05:59 <alsu> I’m mimicing IRB#start, otherwise

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06:01 <TTilus> alsu: i repeat, you have been warned, it will get ugly ;)

06:01 <alsu> TTilus: life is ugly

06:01 <TTilus> ok, fine

06:02 <eam> not knowing anyting about irb, you could simply spawn an irb process

06:02 <eam> eg, nc -e

06:02 <eam> it may be simpler to ignore whatever irb thinks and treat it as a dumb program

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06:07 <alsu> what is with pryem:// anyway

06:07 <TTilus> eam: then you can't get a binding from your ruby app to eval irb-entered lines in

06:08 <eam> TTilus: ah, wasn't aware that was a goal

06:08 <alsu> TTilus: hey pry-remote-em has the same problem!

06:08 <alsu> TTilus: “p 1” goes to the stdout of the server, not the client

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06:10 <TTilus> alsu: p is an evil bastard, use better facilities for debug printing, there are plenty

06:10 <alsu> TTilus: “puts 1” same story

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06:11 <alsu> I’m not going to change my console printing habits to accomidate some console’s notion of proper printing

06:11 <TTilus> alsu: what about plain l and let pry/irb/whatnot decide?

06:11 <alsu> what do you mean “plain l”?

06:12 <TTilus> > l

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06:12 <alsu> still not sure what you mean

06:12 <TTilus> # => "stuff"

06:13 <alsu> oh, because sometimes I do: things.each{|t| method_what_prints(t) }

06:13 <alsu> or whatever

06:13 <rkazak_> maybe look at a debugger ?

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06:14 <TTilus> your problem is $stdout

06:14 <alsu> not really. the eval() controls the context. it could define all the Kernel print functions

06:15 <TTilus> ...and break the code

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06:15 <alsu> break how?

06:16 <TTilus> think about debugging a programng that works by piping stuff in and out

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06:17 <TTilus> printing debug stuff needs to be separate from console by default

06:17 <TTilus> tried things.map instead of each?

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06:18 <alsu> my program does not pipe stuff in and out. it is a server

06:18 <TTilus> i know

06:18 <alsu> sure, I could use map. that’s boring. puts prints things at me, and should always do so

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06:19 <TTilus> no, it should print things to stdou (whatever that is) not you

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06:20 <alsu> eh, that’s about like saying “gets” should read from whatever stdin is, but clearly it should read from me

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06:21 <TTilus> oh my

06:21 <alsu> trufax

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06:25 <TTilus> if you really want that, run your server interactively (not detached) in screen/tmux/whatnot

06:25 <rkazak_> output-method.rb seems to indicate you should be able to define your own output method…

06:25 <alsu> rkazak_: doesn’t it?

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06:26 <alsu> rkazak_: but where is output_method used?

06:26 <TTilus> rkazak_: which has nothing to do with defining $stdout

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06:27 <TTilus> alsu: if you wanna see puts you want to have the tty where std* is attached

06:27 <alsu> TTilus: I don’t want to see Kernel#puts. I want the context to define puts

06:27 <alsu> if someone grabs $stdout directly, fine, let them have it

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06:28 <rkazak_> context.rb

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06:30 <alsu> rkazak_: that’s where it’s set. where is it used?

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06:32 <rkazak_> notifier.rb ?

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06:33 <alsu> rkazak_: look again

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06:35 <alsu> rkazak_: to use that, someone would have to call Notifier::def_notifier with a second parameter

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06:44 <TTilus> alsu: if you insist, def puts *a; output.puts *a; end will do what you want in pry

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06:45 <alsu> ah! output! that’s what I was looking for

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06:45 <TTilus> alsu: still context should not override puts

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06:46 <alsu> er, wait, where is output defined?

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06:46 <TTilus> alsu: you really should read pry docs andwiki

06:47 <alsu> ugg

06:47 <TTilus> https://github.com/pry/pry/wiki/Custom-commands#Conventions

06:48 <alsu> I have no idea how that maps to py-remote-em’s notion of binding

06:48 <TTilus> guys, learn your tools, im not kidding, it *will* take time, but is worth it

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06:49 <alsu> nothing about learning pry could answer my question here, though, because I’m using it through pry-remote-em

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06:51 <TTilus> i'd assume pry-remote-em to adhere to pry conventions as it is pry integration to em, not separate implementation

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06:52 <TTilus> then again i could be wrong

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06:53 <TTilus> alsu: if you know that for a fact, you need to be looking at pry-remote-em docs

06:53 <alsu> I am looking at them, and they make no mention of “output”

06:53 <TTilus> alsu: and source if it does not have good enough docs

06:53 <alsu> I could be done with my irb implementation by now

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06:56 <Mon_Ouie> Pry.hooks.add_hook(:before_eval, :capture_output) { $stdout, @old_stdout = Pry.output, $stdout }

06:56 <TTilus> you could

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06:57 <Mon_Ouie> Pry.hooks.add_hoke(:after_eval, :uncapture_output) { $stdout = @old_stdout }

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06:57 <Mon_Ouie> add_hook*

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06:59 <alsu> Mon_Ouie: around what, exactly?

06:59 <TTilus> Mon_Ouie: thats pretty ... big gun

07:00 <Mon_Ouie> You can put that in e.g. your .pryrc and it will make sure $stdout is always Pry.output when you run code

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07:01 <alsu> I refuse to have a .pryrc

07:02 <TTilus> :-/

07:02 <alsu> it’s totally unrelated to my goal!

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07:02 <alsu> that’s like saying; just put some stuff in your Google Docs

07:02 <alsu> all I want is a socket, where input goes to a console, and output goes back to the socket

07:02 <alsu> this should not invole the freaking filesystem

07:03 <TTilus> what if putting stuff in ur gd woud help?

07:03 <alsu> I do not believe you that it would

07:03 <Mon_Ouie> I just took that code from the way pry-remote does it btw

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07:04 <Mon_Ouie> But if you want to change the way things behave, that's what configuration files are for

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07:04 <TTilus> alsu: what prevents you from using Pry.output directly?

07:05 <alsu> Pry.output.puts 1 goes to $stdout

07:05 <TTilus> alsu: or running yourserver attached to tty within tmux session?

07:05 <alsu> I’d rather not do that

07:05 <alsu> sometimes scripts might want to attach and run something

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07:13 <alsu> pry-remote likes to print a bunch of extra newlines

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07:31 <Hanmac> apeiros: "#systemd implementing a ntp client now. They could have told us from the beginning they wanted to compete with #emacs" https://twitter.com/Donearm/status/471708084466110464 ;P

07:33 <popl> figures

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09:47 <momo_cassandra> hi guys!

09:49 <mozzarella> hi

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09:50 <momo_cassandra> have any of you guys used this gem: 'instagram'?

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09:52 <momo_cassandra> http://rubydoc.info/gems/instagram/1.0.0/frames

09:53 <jhass> ask your question, don't search for the right person to answer it

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09:56 <momo_cassandra> have you tried searching for instagram post based on hashtag? without having repeated results?

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10:00 <jhass> I only see an endpoint for getting recent media by tag?

10:01 <momo_cassandra> I've seen this method: tag_recent_media and supplying the hashtag as param

10:01 <momo_cassandra> but what I need is how to return results without repetition of posts

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10:03 <jhass> hm, the API doesn't mention that a single query would return duplicates

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10:03 <momo_cassandra> not for the first query

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10:04 <momo_cassandra> but if you tried querying again, its possible that it would return posts that are in the first query results

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10:05 <jhass> well, just .uniq_by once you're done querying

10:05 <Freddan962> How do I open a soket's write in ruby after having closed it with @client.close_write?

10:05 <jhass> er, it's uniq with a block here

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10:06 <jhass> Freddan962: can't you just not close it? I fear you have to open a new one if not

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10:06 <momo_cassandra> jhass: It's actually on a next request and I need to only get those that I haven't gotten yet so it doesn't duplicate on the page with those that I have already pulled before

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10:07 <Freddan962> jhass: Sure, but then I can't read until I get the EOF response from the server.

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10:07 <jhass> momo_cassandra: tried setting min_id to the biggest id you got from the first query?

10:08 <Mon_Ouie> alsu: How so? It just forwards output to the client

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10:09 <Freddan962> jhass: And then the kernel's buffer waits with sending the socket - I have to close it, but is there not a way to re-open the socket? Or am I better off making a new socket?

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10:09 <momo_cassandra> jhass: i've just tried it but second result still includes posts from my first result.

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10:10 <momo_cassandra> jhass: what's the correct value or id that I should pass to min_id? is it the tag id or the result pagination?

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10:11 <jhass> Freddan962: you should make a new one

10:11 <Freddan962> jhass: Ok, thanks! Just bought the e-book so I am quite new to all this :P

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10:12 <jhass> momo_cassandra: I'd expect the pagination id

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10:14 <momo_cassandra> jhass: thanks a lot for your responses! I'd try everything you said

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10:33 <gilest> hi everybody, anyone using 2.1.2 in production?

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10:36 <jhass> I think github does?

10:37 <gilest> i've just been reading their blog about it, curious about process bloat

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10:39 <gilest> using 2.1.1 at the moment. trying to decide whether i should throw some gc tuning in with environment variables or throw out the baby and upgrade to 2.1.2

10:40 <gilest> (with the bath water that is)

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12:19 <sandstrom> Compiling Ruby 2.1.2. Takes 11 minutes. VM (Ubuntu 14.04) on my Macbook Air, with ~2048 mb memory and 2 CPUs for the VM. Using `ruby-install` vanilla. Is this slow? Any way I can speed it up?

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12:21 <jhass> semms pretty normal to me

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12:21 <jhass> make sure to export MAKEFLAGS="-j2"

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12:22 <sandstrom> jhass: okay, just checking. There is a PR for support of pre-compiled binaries in ruby-install. That would speed it up. Thanks!

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12:36 <Hanmac1> jhass: i have seen a gem that compiles itself with -j5 ;P imo that was way to high

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12:37 <jhass> Hanmac my machine default is 7,

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13:25 <kke> i wonder if mysql2 can be configured to work correctly with a db with double encoding caused by mysql1 + bad config

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13:25 <jhass> I'd probably rather try to dump, sanitize and reimport the db

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13:28 <kke> bit difficult without downtime on a 170gb db that is in production

13:28 <kke> i assume you noticed _why's site has been updated http://whytheluckystiff.net/

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13:34 <kke> might be a different dude

13:34 <kke> NOTE: For some reason, I’ve been getting a LOT (like more than 1, which is a lot for me considering how long this site has been going) of messages from people asking me if I’m some kind of famous programmer called #why from Pittsburg or something.

13:34 <kke> Whilst I wish I was this famous and did get this much attention, unfortunately I’m not.

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13:43 <shevy> anyone remembers how I could check a .rb file for valid ruby syntax, without executing it?

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13:44 <benzrf> shevy: use ruby_parser

13:44 <benzrf> or like

13:44 <benzrf> something

13:44 <jhass> ruby -c

13:44 <shevy> ruby_parser?

13:44 <shevy> aah great

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14:33 <platzhirsch> How is this anti-pattern called to name a bunch of classes with the same prefix?

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14:34 <platzhirsch> smurf naming!

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14:46 <makerop> im having some trouble with a hash that contains a set

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14:47 <makerop> https://gist.github.com/makerops/a2fd299f5dcf0522418f

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14:47 <makerop> why doesnt rule['feed_regex'].include? come up true?

14:47 <benzrf> makerop: why would it?

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14:47 <benzrf> oh wait

14:47 <benzrf> hmmm

14:48 <jhass> itt02 != itto2

14:48 <makerop> rule, is a hash fwiw

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14:48 <makerop> omg

14:48 <makerop> ty

14:48 <benzrf> jsaak: haha_

14:48 <makerop> i artificially create itt02

14:48 <makerop> arg

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14:50 <jsaak> omg i am still in this room

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14:52 <shevy> jsaak YES

14:52 <shevy> you want to master ruby after all

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14:53 <jsaak> i left ruby behind, i found c++!

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14:53 <benzrf> jsaak: you disgust me

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14:54 <jsaak> ahah

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15:16 <havenwood> >> module Bacon; def self.!@; :not_interested end end; not Bacon

15:16 <eval-in__> havenwood => :not_interested (https://eval.in/156829)

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15:19 <benzrf> :^)

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15:23 <DouweM> haha

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15:37 <shevy> jsaak C++ is not a serious language, that is why the linux kernel is not implemented in C++

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15:41 <jsaak> i was joking obviously, but it is true that i returned to c++ i hate it but that is what is needed now :/

15:42 <jsaak> qt is not too bad tho

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15:44 <h_h> shevy, "not a serious"? :O what?

15:44 <shevy> yeah I wrote that

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15:49 <workmad3> shevy: C++ is a very serious language... it has lots of serious people writing it, it has lots of serious people writing standards for it, it has lots of serious people writing compilers for it, and it has lots of serious people not particularly enjoying writing in it

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15:50 <shevy> yeah like perl is written in it

15:50 <shevy> and python

15:50 <shevy> and ruby!!!

15:50 <eam> shevy: the linux kernel isn't written in C++ because it created before C++ existed

15:50 <workmad3> eam: no it wasn't

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15:50 <eam> workmad3: before a complete compiler for it existed

15:50 <workmad3> eam: it was before the first *standard* for it

15:51 <eam> sure sure

15:51 <workmad3> eam: but it was 8 years after C++ was created

15:51 <jimbauds> python is written in C not c++?

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15:51 <shevy> http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus

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15:51 <the_f0ster> jimbauds: I would guess so :)

15:51 <workmad3> eam: python is written in C not C++ because linus doesn't like C++

15:51 <havenwood> ha

15:51 <workmad3> err, linux

15:51 <the_f0ster> a lot of people hate the STL in C++

15:51 <workmad3> typo

15:51 <eam> workmad3: python really :)

15:51 <eam> workmad3: there's more than just that

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15:51 <workmad3> eam: not much more than that ;)

15:52 <DaniG2k> guys

15:52 <DaniG2k> someda

15:52 <jimbauds> ruby is written in C not c++?

15:52 <DaniG2k> y

15:52 <havenwood> why linus didn't use C++: "C++ is a horrible language."

15:52 <DaniG2k> we will all be programming in julia

15:52 <shevy> why does matz not like C++

15:52 <havenwood> shevy: why matz didn't use C++: "C++ is a horrible language."

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15:52 <eam> workmad3: surely gcc's support for C++ plays a role

15:52 <shevy> nah

15:52 <qpls> I predict D will be the next big hit

15:52 <shevy> matz would never say something like that havenwood

15:52 <DaniG2k> http://julialang.org/

15:52 <shevy> matz is not linus after all

15:52 <havenwood> shevy: true :P

15:52 <shevy> he would just smile happily

15:52 <shevy> and then you know why he does not use C++

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15:52 <shevy> hahaha :D

15:53 <shevy> I think I have never read matz ranting

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15:53 <havenwood> shalicke: Matz' way of saying it: "after two years of C++ programming, it still surprised me"

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15:53 <shevy> hehe

15:53 <shevy> does guido rant?

15:53 <havenwood> shevy*

15:53 <havenwood> shevy: that's an actual quote ;)

15:53 <shevy> yeah that's completely harmless

15:54 <shevy> I mean it could be a good or a bad surprise

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15:54 <havenwood> ha

15:54 <havenwood> shevy: given the context, he meant bad suprise :P

15:55 <havenwood> shevy: he meant what linus said

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15:55 <havenwood> just said it gently

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15:55 <havenwood> seems recently they've done nice things

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15:56 <shevy> who

15:56 <havenwood> c++

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15:56 <eam> I'd rather use objective C

15:56 <shevy> now eam insults C++

15:56 <shevy> :(

15:56 <shevy> eam you even agree with TIOBE now!

15:56 <havenwood> shevy: we just switched sides

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15:56 <shevy> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

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15:56 <shevy> you can't be wrong if you are in agreement with TIOBE

15:57 <shevy> look how convincing it is:

15:57 <shevy> "The index can be used to check whether your programming skills are still up to date or to make a strategic decision about what programming language should be adopted when starting to build a new software system."

15:57 <shevy> we can make a strategic decision NOW

15:57 <shevy> visual basic #5

15:57 <eam> hey visual basic. I know visual basic

15:57 <shevy> ewwww

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15:57 <jimbauds> haha! I know VB6! ;)

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15:58 <eam> shevy: helped write an interpreter for it :)

15:58 <josiah14> is there a way to do something like (attr_val1, attr_val2) = obj.get_attributes(:attr1, :attr2) in Ruby?

15:58 <jhass> josiah14: you just wrote it

15:58 <jhass> but you can leave the parens off

15:58 <josiah14> I just tried it in pry and couldn't get it to work on the string class

15:59 <jhass> >> a, b = "foo bar".split; [a, b]

15:59 <eval-in__> jhass => ["foo", "bar"] (https://eval.in/156830)

15:59 <shevy> josiah14 well you should return an array

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16:00 <josiah14> well, I'm just testing out in pry. String was just the first object I thought of

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16:00 <ASICASIC21> Hello

16:00 <ASICASIC21> Is anyone here? :)

16:00 <xybre> /names

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16:01 <ASICASIC21> Hey xybre

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16:01 <ASICASIC21> I was wondering if you know any ASIC designers/developers

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16:01 <ASICASIC21> Application specific integrated circuit

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16:02 <Hanmac> josiah14: if obj is a hash, you can use h.values_at

16:02 <xybre> ike a GPU?

16:02 <ASICASIC21> yes xybre!

16:02 <ASICASIC21> :)

16:02 <Hanmac> >> { "cat" => "feline", "dog" => "canine", "cow" => "bovine" }.values_at("cow", "cat")

16:02 <eval-in__> Hanmac => ["bovine", "feline"] (https://eval.in/156831)

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16:02 <josiah14> object is just an objcet

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16:03 <xybre> I've used CODA programs.

16:03 <DouweM> Hanmac: damn, I never knew there was a #values_at, did the same thing manually with keys.map { |k| hash[k] } a couple of days ago :/

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16:04 <jimbauds> xybre: wow!

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16:04 <xybre> josiah14: you can do multi-assign, like `x, y = 1, 2`

16:04 <xybre> josiah14: Any array on the right will be dissassembled also.

16:04 <jimbauds> xydre: you're older than me!

16:04 <jimbauds> ;)

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16:05 <xybre> I may or may not be, but I meant CUDA.

16:05 <ASICASIC21> anyone know which sub freenode i can go into to speak to GPU designers?

16:05 <ASICASIC21> please

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16:06 <jimbauds> xybre: that was a joke! but I don't know CUDA.. sry!

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16:06 <xybre> jimbauds: I assumed :) CUDA is an application programming interface for NVIDIA GPUs.

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16:07 <shock_one> Hi. If somebody is looking for work, please ping me

16:07 <shock_one> *remote work.

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16:07 <xybre> It's basically low level programming for a GPU. I've used a few audio DSP applications that use CUDA for number crunching.

16:07 * xybre tasers shock_one

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16:11 <xybre> Oh maybe you meant an actual ping. I have your IP so I could do that.

16:11 <xybre> Or CTCP, but thats protocol specific.

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16:11 <jimbauds> haha!

16:12 <jimbauds> nice joke!

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16:12 <xybre> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA btw

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16:12 <jimbauds> thank you

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17:28 <dp> I've got a ruby script being run by nagios (apparently under rvm). I'm trying to require a gem, but the script fails. is there a way to see where all ruby is going to look for the gems?

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17:28 <jhass> "all ruby"?

17:28 <dp> where-all.

17:28 <dp> sorry

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17:28 <dp> IE, all the different locations

17:28 <havenwood> dp: echo $GEM_PATH

17:28 <jhass> puts $LOAD_PATH

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17:30 <dp> and then I should be able to look under those locations for my gem

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17:30 <havenwood> dp: i guess outset question, are you trying to determine from Ruby or from Shell?

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17:31 <dp> havenwood: from ruby

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17:31 <jhass> Ideally you'd find out how to run `gem` with the same environment, then `gem which gemname` and `gem env` are most informative

17:31 <dp> jhass: figuring out that environment is easier said than done.

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17:32 <Hanmac> dp how did you install nagios? as gem if yes did you run it as sudo or not? (didnt nagios has its own user so you might need to install it as root? )

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17:33 <dp> Hanmac: nagios is perl, not ruby

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17:33 <Hanmac> dp how did you install rvm, system wide or user wide?

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17:33 <dp> Hanmac: unknown. I did not install it

17:34 <dp> twas before my time

17:34 <benzrf> i can into underline

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17:36 <shevy> dp look at "gem env" output too

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17:37 <Hanmac> i think that rvm was installed user wide and the nagios user cant find the installed gem

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17:40 <havenwood> dp: RVM recommends not doing system wide installs. RVM chan is #rvm.

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17:40 <Hanmac> apeiros & shevy & havenwood: YT-autoblock fail: https://twitter.com/VlDEOGAMES/status/471867051221344258

17:40 <havenwood> Hanmac: snap

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17:43 <shinobi_one> Using net/smtp, the mail server sends back AUTH NTLM, but net/smtp supports only login, plain, and cram_md5, anyone know how to get this working?

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17:47 <Sigma00> !google ruby smtp ntlm

17:47 <helpa> http://www.google.com/search?q=ruby+smtp+ntlm

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17:50 <shevy> via Time.now.strftime

17:50 <shevy> I only get numbers right? I dont get "give me the long form of current month"

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17:51 <shevy> it's no big deal as Date::MONTHNAMES[Date.today.month] could be used, I just wonder, and it feels a bit weird to combine Time and Date hmm

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17:51 <shinobi_one> Sigma00: here's the thing, I'm trying to not use the gem and figure out how the hell mail gem, which is used by RoR Actionmailer is working without it.. mail gem uses underlying net/smtp

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17:51 <Sigma00> that should have been part of your initial question

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17:53 <jhass> shevy: %B - The full month name (``January'')

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17:53 <shevy> aaaah

17:53 <shevy> now that is a lot better, thanks

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17:55 <shinobi_one> It must be something specific to actionmailer because using mail gem by itself doesn't work through this exchange server, but somehow using actionmailer does..

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17:59 <havenwood> >> require 'time'; Time::RFC2822_MONTH_NAME

17:59 <eval-in> havenwood => ["Jan", "Feb", "Mar", "Apr", "May", "Jun", "Jul", "Aug", "Sep", "Oct", "Nov", "Dec"] (https://eval.in/156832)

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17:59 <havenwood> shevy: ^ not the names you were looking for, but >.>

18:00 <shevy> that is also fine

18:00 <shevy> 3 letters shortcut

18:00 <shevy> I just had a shock, thinking I removed 957 yaml files

18:00 <havenwood> note the array doesn't start with `nil` like Date::MONTHNAMES

18:00 <jhass> %b - The abbreviated month name (``Jan'')

18:01 <shevy> wheeeee

18:01 <havenwood> jhass: aha, nice

18:01 <shevy> I am sorry havenwood, it seems as if strftime offers everything already!

18:01 <havenwood> shevy: i'm late to the party and didn't bring wine

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18:01 <shevy> did you bring cookies

18:01 <havenwood> shevy: bacon

18:01 <shevy> damn it :(

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18:15 <mocfive> Is it possible to switch a rspec.configure value for just one test?

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18:15 <lagweezle> That reads very much like, "You're doing it wrong." ... but I dunno.

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18:16 <jhass> mocfive: so which value and why?

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18:18 <mocfive> I'm doing some testing with capybara and devise, and I need to have use_transactional_fixtures set to false. I was hoping to just set this to false for my tests

18:18 <mocfive> is it as simple as putting an Rspec.configure block on top and bottom of the file ?

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18:19 <dideler|work> is doing something like `require 'openssl' unless defined?(OpenSSL)` necessary? because `require` returns false if the lib is already loaded, soiis there any reason why you can't just do `require 'openssl'`?

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18:19 <centrx> dideler|work, Right

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18:20 <centrx> dideler|work, Unless a different library defined an OpenSSL class

18:20 <jhass> mocfive: http://weilu.github.io/blog/2012/11/10/conditionally-switching-off-transactional-fixtures/ second google entry, would that work for you?

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18:20 <centrx> dideler|work, require avoids duplicates based on the 'openssl' name, while defined?(OpenSSL) is using any object (class) named OpenSSL

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18:21 <mocfive> jhass, thank you, I missed this on my search

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18:21 <dideler|work> centrx: thanks for clarifying. this is the line that made me wonder https://github.com/rails/rails/blob/6e2b734f56e4c789763b9a8e3922272a004a325f/activesupport/lib/active_support/message_verifier.rb#L69

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18:22 <Hanmac1> dideler|work: its active_support its full of what makes you wonder ;P

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18:40 <krz> what do you call ||=

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18:42 <Hanmac> havenwood: http://static.nichtlustig.de/toondb/140522.html

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18:48 <duggiefresh> hammer operator

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19:04 <krz> ive got ["twitter", "instagram"]. how do i parse through this array so i can put the values into the IN clause

19:04 <krz> for example: WHERE u.properties -> 'provider' IN ('twitter', 'instagram')

19:04 <wallerdev> are you talking sql there or what

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19:08 <krz> wallerdev: ["twitter", "instagram"] is a ruby array

19:08 <krz> WHERE u.properties -> 'provider' IN ('twitter', 'instagram') is sql

19:08 <wallerdev> most sql libraries will handle the escaping for you

19:09 <wallerdev> >> "(#{["twitter", "instagram"].map { |s| "'#{s}'" }.join(', ')})"

19:09 <eval-in> wallerdev => "('twitter', 'instagram')" (https://eval.in/156842)

19:09 <wallerdev> if you dont care about sql injection

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19:11 <krz> thanks

19:11 <krz> wallerdev: i have to write raw sql

19:11 <wallerdev> do you really

19:11 <wallerdev> lol

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19:12 <krz> how can i escape this?

19:12 <wallerdev> use an sql library

19:12 <wallerdev> otherwise youll screw it up

19:12 <krz> https://gist.github.com/4d938bb1029209262a67 is what i really need to do

19:13 <krz> works so far

19:13 <krz> but now im worried about the sql injection concern you brought up

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19:14 <krz> providers is always defined by the app

19:14 <krz> not the user

19:14 <wallerdev> whatever tool youre using to run the sql in ruby is going to have some method for escaping things

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19:27 <shevy> hmm

19:27 <shevy> how to test how to test how to test

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19:27 <shevy> when you are a lazy person

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19:35 <Hanmac1> shevy yeah i need to look how the test units for test-unit are written ;P

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19:36 <Mon_Ouie> krz: Usually you will not use escaping though. You'd have placeholders in your query and pass an array of arguments to it.

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19:38 <shevy> so if I have a file called 'foo' ... what is the difference if I wish to append it, using 'a' versus 'a+' in ruby?

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19:39 <shevy> so weird, I could have sworn I had a bug here that was creating a completely new file when using 'a+' ...

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19:43 <RubyPanther> shevy: The + means create

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19:44 <apeiros> RubyPanther, shevy: no, both a and a+ create.

19:44 <apeiros> shevy: check IO::new, lists all params

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19:45 <shevy> hmm... perhaps my harddisc is failing...

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19:47 <RubyPanther> oops, yeah, sorry

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20:26 <jamto11> Has anyone used the authority gem? I was wondering is there a way to get around restarting my app everytime i make a change to within the authorizers folder?

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20:38 <Freddan962> Getting a error when trying to call the parent's update method with super in #update at line 11. Error: Update, wrong number of arguments. Spaceshipfighter#21 https://github.com/Freddan962/Spaceshooter/blob/master/src/AIfighter/AIFighter.rb

20:38 <Freddan962> Help would be appreciated :D

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20:40 <havenwood> Freddan962: how are you calling it?

20:40 <jhass> super calls the parent method with the arguments passed to the current method. So if your childs methods takes an argument and you want to call a parent that doesn't you have to use super()

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20:41 <Freddan962> jhass: Oh thank you Jhass! Did not know that!

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20:41 <havenwood> Freddan962: also `super` ~= `super()`

20:41 <havenwood> !=**

20:41 <havenwood> gah

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20:42 <Freddan962> havenwood: Haha yeah, thank you guys! :)

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20:43 <havenwood> Freddan962: `super()` is one of the rare circumstances you'd use parens on a method without args

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20:43 <havenwood> do avoid passing on params explicitly

20:43 <havenwood> to*

20:43 <havenwood> i just can't type today..

20:43 <jhass> super is more of a keyword than a method though

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20:48 <jheg> is it better to use parentheses when writing methods?

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20:48 <jheg> for the sake of clarity?

20:48 <jhass> I'd say personal style

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20:49 <havenwood> jheg: safe to say no parens when no args, but whether to use parens with args is your choice

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20:49 <havenwood> parens without args is yuck

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20:49 <jheg> haha ok

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20:52 <nszceta> I am unable to install rugged --> https://dpaste.de/YsnV/raw

20:52 <nszceta> Plz advz. FreeBSD 10 with Ruby 1.9.x

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20:53 <jhass> so anything else in mkmf.log?

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20:54 <nszceta> can't find that file

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20:54 <jhass> what about /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/rugged-0.19.0/ext/rugged/gem_make.out?

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20:54 <nszceta> its the same output as the paste

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20:55 <jhass> search the surrounding directories for a mkmf.log

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20:56 <nszceta> ok found something...

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20:57 <nszceta> https://dpaste.de/fJQq/raw

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20:58 <nszceta> pkg install libgit2 didn't help

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20:58 <jhass> https://github.com/libgit2/libgit2/issues/1442

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20:58 <jhass> so install gmake

20:58 <nszceta> trying that. THX

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21:29 <kenneth> how do i convert an int to raw bytes?

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21:30 <kenneth> eg. [902023565242095752.to_s(16)].pack('H*')

21:30 <kenneth> is there a better way of doing that?

21:31 <benzrf> >> 2342343.byets

21:31 <eval-in> benzrf => undefined method `byets' for 2342343:Fixnum (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/156852)

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21:31 <benzrf> >> 2342343.bytes

21:31 <eval-in> benzrf => undefined method `bytes' for 2342343:Fixnum (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/156853)

21:31 <benzrf> nope

21:31 <benzrf> >> 2342343.hex

21:31 <eval-in> benzrf => undefined method `hex' for 2342343:Fixnum (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/156854)

21:31 <benzrf> hm

21:31 <kenneth> maybe with bitships

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21:37 <Sigma00> >> 2324.to_s(2)

21:37 <eval-in> Sigma00 => "100100010100" (https://eval.in/156855)

21:38 <Sigma00> >> 2324.to_s(16)

21:38 <eval-in> Sigma00 => "914" (https://eval.in/156856)

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21:38 <kenneth> nope

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21:39 <pragmatism> Anyone here used RubyEncoder before?

21:39 <mostlybadfly> hey guys, i've taken a few ruby tutorials online, then jumped into rails and really enjoying that, but wondering if you had any suggestions for text or more intermediate type stuff to follow?

21:39 <pragmatism> mostlybadfly: Start studying Ruby

21:40 <pragmatism> And read the Rails docs

21:40 <kenneth> i want 255 => "\xFF"

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21:40 <xybre> mostlybadfly: What helped me the most is finding a project I wanted to work on and throwing myself into that and the approaches extant in the Ruby-verse.

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21:40 <kenneth> 256 => "\x01\x00"

21:40 <kenneth> etc

21:40 <havenwood> >> 255.chr

21:40 <eval-in> havenwood => "\xFF" (https://eval.in/156857)

21:40 <mostlybadfly> xybre: from there did you just look through documentation for what you wanted to do? when faced with a roadblock i mean

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21:41 <xybre> And of course not just cargo-culting, but trying to understand why the things I did worked they way they do.

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21:41 <Sigma00> >> 256.chr

21:41 <eval-in> Sigma00 => 256 out of char range (RangeError) ... (https://eval.in/156858)

21:41 <xybre> mostlybadfly: Yes, there's a ton of documentation and blog posts and books in the Ruby community. I use rubydoc.info mostly, it puts most documentation in one place for core, rails, and gems.

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21:42 <mostlybadfly> oh cool, thanks

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21:42 <mostlybadfly> yeah i mostly have done stuff like tryruby and some online tutorials to get familiar. i have a project in mind so i'll try to dive deeper into it

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21:43 <xybre> And of course you can hang out and look up anything interesting people talk about.

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21:44 <shevy> say I have a string "abcdefabc", is there a simple way to obtain all start and end positions of substring "abc" in that string?

21:45 <kenneth> there's gotta be an easier way than this

21:45 <kenneth> this is what i've got

21:45 <kenneth> >> [(256.to_s(16).length % 2 == 0 ? '' : '0') + 256.to_s(16)].pack('H*')

21:45 <eval-in> kenneth => "\x01\x00" (https://eval.in/156859)

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21:45 <xybre> kenneth: sprintf?

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21:46 <mostlybadfly> thanks xybre

21:46 <xybre> shevy: There's a string scanner thing I think

21:46 <apeiros> shevy: use my match_all. start position is pre_match.size

21:46 <havenwood> shevy: so return an array of the matching starting indices?

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21:47 <apeiros> shevy: https://gist.github.com/apeiros/9323149

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21:47 <shevy> havenwood hmm I guess that would suffice, the size of the substring is known

21:47 <havenwood> >> "abcdefabc".enum_for(:scan, /abc/).map { Regexp.last_match.begin(0) }

21:47 <eval-in> havenwood => [0, 6] (https://eval.in/156860)

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21:47 <shevy> I think that is the first time I have even seen enum_for

21:47 <DouweM> havenwood: neat

21:47 <apeiros> oh, begin is nicer then pre_match.size

21:48 <shevy> time to lookup the documentation

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21:58 <havenwood> shevy: requisite no-regex version:

21:58 <havenwood> >> class String; def find_indices substring; each_char.each_cons(substring.size).with_index.select { |e, _| e.join == substring }.map(&:last) end end; "abcdefabc".find_indices "abc"

21:58 <eval-in> havenwood => [0, 6] (https://eval.in/156870)

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21:59 <apeiros> that one differs, though

21:59 <apeiros> finds overlapping ones too

21:59 <apeiros> (for better or worse)

21:59 <havenwood> apeiros: ooh, i hadn't realized that implication, interesting

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22:00 <apeiros> for what it's worth - String#index accepts an offset

22:00 <apeiros> and is likely quite a bit faster than each_cons :)

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22:01 <havenwood> and now using only lambda calculus:

22:01 <centrx> >>"[]"["[]"]

22:01 <eval-in> centrx => "[]" (https://eval.in/156872)

22:01 <apeiros> so something like: off = 0; while found = index(substr, off); res << found; off = found+1; end

22:01 <nszceta> I can't fix this damn problem on FreeBSD

22:01 <nszceta> ARNING: Nokogiri was built against LibXML version 2.8.0, but has dynamically loaded 2.9.1

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22:01 <nszceta> I cannot uninstall libxml2 =(

22:01 <toretore> is it a problem?

22:01 <centrx> nszceta, rebuilt it with your new version of libxml

22:01 <nszceta> I tried 4x

22:01 <nszceta> the pristine thing

22:02 <havenwood> nszceta: gem pristine nokogiri

22:02 <havenwood> aha

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22:03 <nszceta> wait maybe if I slam the pkg version of it -- it might work o_O

22:04 <nszceta> argh

22:04 <havenwood> nszceta: maybe try?: `gem uninstall nokogiri` then `gem install nokogiri -- --use-system-libraries`

22:04 <nszceta> ok

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22:05 <nszceta> I used bundler..

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22:07 <xybre> You can still run those commands, bundler will even recommend them sometimes.

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22:08 <nszceta> hmm

22:08 <nszceta> I am installing gitlab with sudo -u git -H bundle install --deployment --without development test mysql aws

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22:08 <nszceta> is there anything extra I could add on that specific command line?

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22:18 <Robbo`> anyone here use the datamapper observes?

22:18 <Robbo`> as in the orm called datamapper (lol)

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22:19 <xybre> I've used datamapper, I don't know about their "observes" though.

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22:20 <xybre> There's a datamapper channel but its pretty low traffic.

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22:20 <shevy> wheeee http://www.davidegrayson.com/ruby/enumerable/enumerable_methods.pdf

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22:20 <centrx> Datamapper is kind of an old dead project

22:20 <DouweM> I've not used DM, but I've used observers :)

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22:20 <Robbo`> their observers just seem... meh

22:20 <Robbo`> it is a callback so I can't use a class how I want to

22:21 <xybre> datamapper isn't being actively developed but it still works well.

22:21 <havenwood> ROM \o/

22:21 <Robbo`> only reason I am using it though is because it has a yaml driver and this is for a static site which uses yaml as a sort of database

22:21 <xybre> It's always been much less of a headache than activerecord.

22:21 <havenwood> http://rom-rb.org/

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22:21 <xybre> ROMrb seems to be kinda awesome, but its not done cooking yet.

22:22 <Robbo`> yeah I would be using rom if it was stable

22:22 <DouweM> cool, hadn't heard of that yet. looks nice

22:23 <centrx> It's vaporware :P

22:23 <xybre> There's also https://github.com/snusnu/ramom which uses a lot of the same components as ROM

22:23 <Robbo`> yeah got that feeling from it

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22:24 <centrx> Sequel is the up-to-date alternative to ActiveRecord

22:24 <xybre> ROM is being actively developed and a lot of its parts are usable gems in their own right, so its not completely vaporware at least ;)

22:24 <havenwood> the gem it's based on are looking good

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22:25 <havenwood> but Sequel is fully baked

22:25 <xybre> There's also https://github.com/jgaskins/perpetuity

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22:25 <xybre> Only ROM and Perpetuity even approach being actual data mappers. (even datamapper isn't one)

22:26 <shevy> >> 0b10110101 - 139

22:26 <havenwood> gems*

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22:26 <havenwood> one of the ROM family gems i thought was pretty interesting: https://github.com/dkubb/adamantium#readme

22:26 <xybre> For some reason I thought Sequel had been discontinued, glad to see it hasn't, I'll have to check it out again.

22:26 <havenwood> shevy: 42

22:27 <shevy> lol

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22:34 <shevy> huh

22:35 <shevy> I did not know we have array.entries

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22:38 <DouweM> it's on every enumerable right?

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22:47 <perlsyntax> Hey

22:48 <DouweM> hi

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22:59 <bricker`work> yo

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23:12 <omosoj> why are symbol to object hashes preferred?

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23:13 <segfalt> dp: You can do ruby -e 'p $:' to see it's load path. Does the script use bundler (e.g. require 'bundler/setup'?)

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23:24 <omosoj> segfalt, was your commend directed to me?

23:25 <segfalt> no I responded to a really old comment, didn't notice the timestamp

23:25 <segfalt> To answer your question, symbols are more efficient than strings, strings in ruby are very expensive.

23:25 <omosoj> oh, heh. k, because i couldn't find anyone named db, heh

23:26 <omosoj> i see, ok.

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23:28 <shevy> yeah

23:28 <shevy> segfalt is usually quite slow

23:28 <shevy> it is not uncommon for people to die in between waiting for a reply

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23:29 <segfalt> shevy: thanks :-)

23:29 <shevy> :D

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23:44 <timgauthier> hi

23:44 <timgauthier> shevy you still up man? :P

23:45 <shevy> timgauthier cyborgs don't need sleep

23:45 <timgauthier> hahaha, well hello from kanada

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23:48 <shevy> damn

23:48 <shevy> is it at least cold there?

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23:48 <gregf> I know I can merge a bunch of hashes from an array of hashes array.inject(&:merge), but how would I go about merging that array of hashes into a subhash of an existing hash?

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23:49 <timgauthier> it is cold here actually, totally sucks

23:49 <shevy> at least something

23:49 <shevy> :-)

23:49 <timgauthier> and Kanada wastes so much space and everything sucks. German way is besser

23:49 <shevy> hey you can build a house anywhere and nobody minds but try this in berlin

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23:50 <timgauthier> true lol, wait a sec...

23:50 <timgauthier> http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1842536!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpg

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23:50 <timgauthier> that is a house someone is building here in canada

23:50 <timgauthier> out of wood.....

23:50 <timgauthier> ...

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23:52 <shevy> lol

23:53 <timgauthier> i mean at least they put up solar panels. Honeslty i have no problem with the size of the house or anything, its just that it is made out of wood which seems rediuclous to me.

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