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<havenwood>
Nowaker: That is MonitorMixin::ConditionVariable#wait, but you're actually using Thread::ConditionVariable#wait. Just different methods.
<havenwood>
Nowaker: That #wait has a different arity.
<havenwood>
Nowaker: (Since you initialize the ConditionVariable with a mutex.)
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<Nowaker>
havenwood: damn. thanks. :)
<havenwood>
Nowaker: no prob :)
<Nowaker>
okay, I know the problem
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<Nowaker>
stdlib is ruby code, whereas core is compiled, and there are not *.rb files for it. and my IDE (rubymine) doesn't yet have placeholders for Thread::ConditionVariable
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<zigomir>
someone should change topic to ruby 2.1.0 ;)
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<decap>
Im getting this error "Could not find activesupport-4.0.2 in any of the sources" but when I do bundle show activesupport it returns with "/usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/activesupport-4.0.2"
<decap>
whats wrong here ?
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<decap>
anyone ?
<emanu>
anybody here ever built a frontend with yeoman/angular and used rails as just an api to your frontend code? If so, curious if there's any advice on whether to put all of it in one git repo or if it makes more sense to separate it into different git repos (ie: Should my rails app and frontend be in the same code base?)
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<Nilium>
Goody, Ruby 2.1's changes don't affect me in any negative way.
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<peregrine81>
so I'm still using rvm. should I change to chruby?
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<jrobeson>
depends on if you rely on any of the features of rvm
<jrobeson>
like gemsets or stuff like that
<peregrine81>
i haven't gotten that deap
<jrobeson>
rvm does seem ridiculously complicated to me
<peregrine81>
mostly using it to manage different ruby versions among projects
<jrobeson>
so i went with rbenv, but everybody does seem to like chruby these days
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<jrobeson>
so.. up to you ultimately
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<peregrine81>
doing it
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<comjf_>
Is there a more specific channel that anyone knows of for tweaking unicorn workers?
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<comjf_>
well my question is basic... is it better to set no ruby GC then just have a max mem size for unicorn? That way unicorn will reap its own workers and linux can manage the memory without the GC spikes
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<jle`>
~/
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<shevy>
cd ~/
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<shevy>
anyone can recommend a good read for rspec?
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<mdev>
any big changes in new ruby recently released?
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<DouweM>
Who's gonna update the topic for Ruby 2.1?
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<platzhirsch>
Ho ho ho! Merry Christmas — Ruby 2.1 is here
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<txdv>
self returns the instance class, is there something so I can get the instance object itself in a method inside of the instances class?
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<pipecloud>
self in the method definition in the class will refer to the instance.
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<txdv>
no not really
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<txdv>
Test1 vs #<Test1:0x8388abc>
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<Hanmac>
txdv: first is the class itself, second is an instance ... when you want the class, why dont you say that??
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<txdv>
i want to get ahold of the current instance in a method defined in the class
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<txdv>
self actually returns it
<txdv>
nevermind
<txdv>
this metaprogramming is confusing
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<txdv>
i have a module, i include that module in a class and I want somehow to have the code in the module retrieve the instance of the class
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<txdv>
but I guess module functions are not affiliated with the instance, only with the class
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<Hanmac>
txdv: show me a gist of your code so i can see what is wrong
<Hanmac>
txdv: OR do you try to istall class methods defined in the module to include into the class??
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<txdv>
Nevermind, I understood the problem, thanks for the help
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<shevy>
DouweM I think the only one able to update the topic is apeiros or fflush
<shevy>
*only ones / are
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<DouweM>
:)
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<mzdravkov>
can I tell bundle not to install rdoc and ri like I can tell it to gem install. gem install has --no-ri --no-rdoc but bundle doesnt. Maybe I should write something in the Gemfile?
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<Hanmac>
mzdravkov: #bundler
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<shevy>
hehe
<shevy>
bundle will do things on its own
<shevy>
epic quotes, 2012: <banisterfiend> somehow bundler is getting in the way but i didnt ask bundler to do a damn thing
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<shevy>
Hanmac do you use rspec?
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<Hanmac>
hm dont that i know of ... i used unit-tests
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<shevy>
damn
<shevy>
my "rspec" file has a "# This file was generated by Bundler."
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<shevy>
and it has a shebang line of "#!/usr/bin/env jruby --1.9 --debug"
<shevy>
but I dont have jruby! and I dont have java
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<DouweM>
shevy: what file? an 'rspec' file in your project root?
<shevy>
the file "rspec" inside of bin/ folder
<DouweM>
ah, right, the binstub
<DouweM>
I have no idea why that would say to use jruby *shrug*
<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
going to try to uninstall bundler and rspec, and see what happens when reinstalling rspec first
<mojjojo>
is there an irc channel where i can ask question about google oauth?
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<AntelopeSalad>
does anyone know how much disk space is required to compile ruby 2.1 from source?
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<shevy>
ruby-2.0.0-p353.tar.xz has a size of 7.9M. I guess when it is extracted, it's about 24 MB or so? and when compiled... let's add +150%... so I would say... 60 MB
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<AntelopeSalad>
shevy: thanks, unfortunately i ran out of space with 180mb tho
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<shevy>
damn
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<txdv>
pontiki: nice, thanks, maybe you have a preffered one?
<pontiki>
not really
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<olivier_bK>
i dont understand something
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<olivier_bK>
i use this command @get_uid_instance = File.foreach("#{@paramfile[1]}#{@url_instance}.php", "r").grep(/config\[['"]uid['"]\]/)
<olivier_bK>
in file with name is configuration_uid.php
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<olivier_bK>
and the uid of this url is $config["uid"] = 'abdiibramih';
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<olivier_bK>
but i get only = 'abdiibr"]
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<olivier_bK>
??
<olivier_bK>
i dont understand
<olivier_bK>
why
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<pontiki>
olivier_bK: i don't really understand what you are trying to do
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<olivier_bK>
pontiki, what i trying to do is to get $config["uid"] = 'abdiibrahim';
<olivier_bK>
all of the uid name
<olivier_bK>
not the half
<olivier_bK>
i dont understand why he truncate the uid name
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<pontiki>
is that a line in the file you are reading?
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<foster63>
Ok, given an array of arrays, how to calculate the index of the shortest array, ignoring any arrays of length 0 or 1?
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<olivier_bK>
pontiki, yes
<olivier_bK>
on configuration_uid.php
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<pontiki>
olivier_bK: no idea
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<olivier_bK>
pontiki, okai thanks
<olivier_bK>
:)
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<shevy>
olivier_bK that code is so ugly
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<shevy>
olivier_bK and people rarely use File.foreach directly really. can't you just read it into an array first, theng rep on that? and assemble the values before
<shevy>
"#{@paramfile[1]}#{@url_instance}.php" is just awful
<shevy>
when testing your regex config\[['"]uid['"]\] against string configuration_uid.php, rubular says "no match"
<pontiki>
that's not the comparison, shevy
<pontiki>
configuration_uid.php is the filename
<olivier_bK>
shevy, but with my ruby is match
<pontiki>
it's the contents that is getting grepped
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<olivier_bK>
yes
<olivier_bK>
yes
<shevy>
actually it's interesting that he did not ask a simple question :)
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<shevy>
so what he tries to do is to match a regex against an array basically?
<pontiki>
i don't see anything wrong with the construction of the file name, either
<pontiki>
foreach returns an enum delivering each line of the file
<shevy>
well olivier_bK why dont you first read in the dataset into an array, and then apply the .grep on that? it's much easier to understand what is going on if you can break up the stuff
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<shevy>
all those object.foo.bar.bla.ble chains make it harder to know where the error lies
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<olivier_bK>
shevy, i dont remember but i know i hvae try that before
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<shevy>
:P
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<shevy>
foster63 you could always build a new array be using .reject {|entry| entry.size < 2 }
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<pontiki>
foster63: maybe: data.inject(0){|m,o| m = o.size if (o.size > m && o.size > 2); m}
<pontiki>
data is your array of arrays
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<foster63>
Ok thanks pontiki and shevy. I'll have a look at those
<foster63>
At the moment I'm using map, select and index. Which seems a bit long-winded
<foster63>
Oh, and sort and first
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<apeiros>
inject with `; m` at the end -> meep, fail :-p
<foster63>
here's an example: given the array [[0], [], [1,2,3], [4,5]] I want to return 3
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<apeiros>
foster63: you want the length of the longest array?
<apeiros>
ary.max_by(&:size).size
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<foster63>
Hi apeiros. I want the index of the longest array, but ignore arrays of length 0 or 1
<apeiros>
oh
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<foster63>
So I'm doing map, to get the lengths, then select to get lengths >= 2, then sort then first to get the longest >= 2
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<foster63>
But then I'mdoing an index using length to get the actual index, whcih weems wrong
<foster63>
Could I ask another question apeiros? What's is that &:size syntax called?
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<apeiros>
not aware of it having a name
<apeiros>
it uses symbol-to-proc
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<apeiros>
(Symbol#to_proc)
<apeiros>
so might as well call it as that.
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<foster63>
So it's just a shortcut for { |i| i.size } ??
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<terrellt>
Tot's McGoats.
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<apeiros>
foster63: correct
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<apeiros>
technically for { |i, *args| i.size(*args) }, but since max_by only yields `i`, yours is correct for this case (and I think *args is rarely ever used with &:foo)
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<foster63>
Ok, thanks apeiros
<foster63>
I like your solution using "max_by" I'm going to try that :-)
<foster63>
Tha's
<foster63>
not an Array method I'm familiar with
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<terrellt>
Enumerable method, and I didn't know about it either. Cool sauce.
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<apeiros>
Enumerable is a module I strongly recommend to learn all methods by heart :)
<apeiros>
it's invaluable
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<foster63>
Ok thanks again, I'm going through these, but I'm pretty new to this ;-)
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<Hanmac>
apeiros: looks loke you got your nick back ;P can you change the channel topic?
<crlz>
Hello, I'm building a fb crawler for research study. does anybody of you know a lib/gem that does the same? I wouldn't want to write code that someone else wrote and probably better :)
<apeiros>
ah, odd, that it lets me keep that nick
<apeiros>
I'm still not identified with nickserv
<Hanmac>
huch
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<apeiros>
I hope to get my laptop back this week, latest next week.
<foster63>
*googles for ruby Enumerable*
<apeiros>
foster63: don't use google
<apeiros>
use `ri` (command line tool), rdoc.info or ruby-doc.org
<Hanmac>
foster63 a sample where a block makes sense is this: Dir["*"].max_by(&File.method(:size)) #> returns the path of the biggest file
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<apeiros>
make sure you use the docs matching your ruby version
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<apeiros>
(ri automatically does that)
<foster63>
Ok, I'm on Ubuntu and I have version 1.8.7. Should i upgrade?
<apeiros>
absofuckelutely!
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<apeiros>
1.8.7 is EOL, dead. long gone.
<apeiros>
there have now been 3 major releases already
<apeiros>
(1.9, 2.0 and 2.1)
<crlz>
anyone????
<apeiros>
crlz: anyone what?
<foster63>
So should I go for 2.1?
<crlz>
Hello, I'm building a fb crawler for research study. does anybody of you know a lib/gem that does the same? I wouldn't want to write code that someone else wrote and probably better
<apeiros>
foster63: if you don't have dependencies which require an older version? totally.
<Hanmac>
we are pro developer, we do not care about fakebook
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<apeiros>
crlz: ruby-toolbox.com
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<apeiros>
crlz: if there's nothing facebook specific, search for crawling in general.
<apeiros>
should yield things like mechanize, httparty etc.
<crlz>
thx
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<foster63>
... and if I do "ri Enumerable" I get "Nothing known"
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<foster63>
*attempting to upgrade using RVM*
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<shevy>
apeiros is your laptop repared?
<shevy>
*repaired
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<apeiros>
shevy: no :(
<apeiros>
foster63: if you use rvm, `rvm docs generate` to get ri docs.
<apeiros>
rvm doesn't build them by default (IMO sadly, but I guess too many users complained about the time it takes)
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<foster63>
apeiros: Ok, I'm compiling 2.1 at the mo ...
<ferretwithaspork>
apeiros: Any idea how else I could change the offset of a Time object? I'm not in Rails
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<apeiros>
I see. it's a class method.
<apeiros>
you can't use it on a Time instance.
<ferretwithaspork>
Ahh I see
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<ferretwithaspork>
I've got a string with a date/time in zulu time. I'm parsing it with Time.strptime.. how can I change the timezone of the Time object after it parses the string?
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<havenwood>
apeiros: Topic could use a bump! :D
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<havenwood>
apeiros: Got your laptop working it looks like? :)
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<apeiros>
havenwood: nope. just nickserv being lenient
<apeiros>
not sure I find that good tbh :-/
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<bahar>
most ruby examples i've seen for euler #9 online take an entirely different path
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<shevy>
the ponicorns have a lot of wisdom
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<LadyRainicorn>
We do.
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<bahar>
i like hanmac's suggestion too, and ladyrainicorn's also. trying to figure out how to fold those in and if they would improve the performance of the code
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<LadyRainicorn>
My suggestion was for an infinte generator. I don't think it applies.
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<terrellt>
So, I'm giving an 80 minute lecture on getting started with web apps and ruby. Any good starting points to go from? Probably going to use Sinatra so the windows folks can run the same commands, if I type "rails new" I'm pretty sure the whole experience is going to fall apart.
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<LadyRainicorn>
Solution 1: Tell people running servers on windows to fuck off.
<LadyRainicorn>
Solution 2: Get a bottle of hard liquor. consume it.
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<terrellt>
LadyRainicorn: These are University students, they're learning the basics in an undergraduate course. I wouldn't expect them to professionally run servers in windows, but their personal laptop likely has it.
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<gordon__>
terrellt: I dont see the problem ?
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<terrellt>
There...isn't a problem? Just wondering if anyone had a suggestion for a starting point.
<LadyRainicorn>
Ah. Well, I mean web apps is a pretty big territory.
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<LadyRainicorn>
What do you want to talk about specifically?
<pontiki>
terrellt: you should be able to run through the getting started in under an hour, then q&a
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<LadyRainicorn>
Just like explain Sinatra?
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<LadyRainicorn>
Do they know front end stuff already?
<pontiki>
are these students completely new to ruby, or just web apps?
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<terrellt>
Yes, I can set one up from scratch and wing it, but I haven't done it before. My question is, has somebody heard of an openly available lesson that's been given similar to it.
<terrellt>
pontiki: Both.
<pontiki>
ah
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<gordon__>
terrellt: my friend was doing presentation in 90 minutes
<gordon__>
with rails and ruby
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<pontiki>
is this just one part of a series?
<gordon__>
everyone should get ruby fast
<gordon__>
it's not complicated language
<terrellt>
pontiki: It's the only ruby lesson in a web development course.
<gordon__>
it just looks funny
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<gordon__>
terrellt: show them rails with scaffolding
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<gordon__>
without tests
<gordon__>
or maybe some tests ;)
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<gordon__>
with two tables
<gordon__>
and done
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<Jamo>
if you have time, do some tests too
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<Jamo>
/show
<terrellt>
gordon__: They're programmers, I don't think they'll get anything out of that. I can't reliably have them follow along with rails in 80 minutes - somebody's going to have system dependencies to deal with.
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<pontiki>
terrellt: i think you'll be okay with sinatra
<pontiki>
just going through the basic routing and response stuff
<gordon__>
terrellt: if you say so
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<gordon__>
I dont think you can get anything from just one 80 minute talk
<pontiki>
you can't in depth. but it doesn't sound like that's the intention either; sounds like just a survey course
<terrellt>
I think my current thought is Sinatra, a couple basic routing things, ruby syntax interspersed in it, ERB, and close with what Rails is if they want to go further.
<gordon__>
you can just encourage them to try more at home
<Jamo>
but really most of the fuss about ruby is because of rails. so Id prefer to get a ruby/rails lecture rather than ruby/sinatra lecture....
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<terrellt>
The alternative is I could do rails and cross my fingers. Open up with ruby syntax, rails new, and do some routing and database operations to a sqlite database.
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<terrellt>
Probably less substance because of all the magic, but it's a flashier show.
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<pontiki>
so i've never installed a ruby/rails dev environment on windows
<pontiki>
i just know ppl come in with problems
<terrellt>
I think I've used RailsInstaller without any trouble before.
<pontiki>
altho it sounds like it should be easy with RubyInstaller and DevKit
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<terrellt>
DevKit's what makes me nervous.
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<terrellt>
You have to set a path variable for that, and that's just asking to eat 20 minutes.
<pontiki>
is it?
<ericwood>
path variables are easy
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<ericwood>
set PATH=$PATH:new/path/variable
<ericwood>
or export or whatever
<pontiki>
is that windows?
<ericwood>
nope
<ericwood>
idk anything about windows
<pontiki>
that's the context
<ericwood>
ah okay well I have nothing to contribute in that case
<pontiki>
idk anything about windows either
<terrellt>
You can do something similar.
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<terrellt>
There's a command line command, but there's going to be people who can't follow along.
<terrellt>
I think this only works if the rails gem, by default, doesn't require devkit.
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<pontiki>
have you run through it on windows?
<pontiki>
i'd say give it a go, run through it, see what pops out?
<pontiki>
that may be the sticking point?
<terrellt>
I'll have to get a clean box, but I'll definitely do that.
<pontiki>
VM?
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<pontiki>
i mean for you, not for them
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<terrellt>
Not that a vagrant box for them is a terrible thought.
<pontiki>
it's a whole other concept
<pontiki>
with its own hazzards of misunderstanding, etc
<terrellt>
True.
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<pontiki>
idk
<pontiki>
i am probably just muddying things up
<pontiki>
i'm worthless teaching deep tech stuff to windows users
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<shevy>
what do you guys use to add --help options and such to commandline .rb scripts?
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<Jamo>
yep
<Jamo>
especially when someone else is going to use my scripts
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<terrellt>
shevy: I work with a guy who uses docopt.
<pskosinski>
I use ifs
<pskosinski>
and == and include? sometimes too :p
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<guilund>
hey guys!
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<guilund>
i have an array of dates, how can i check if its the last date in the year? for example ['2012-01-01', '2012-02-01', '2013-01-01', '2013-02-01'], when i iterate the array, how can i check if its the last date in the yer?
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<guilund>
someone knows how to check it?
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<shevy>
terrellt docopt? hmm
<shevy>
pskosinski yeah... I could do manual parsing as well
<shevy>
I hate optparse so much
<LadyRainicorn>
haha yes ;-;
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<LadyRainicorn>
You'll have to keep a reference to the year and compare the dates.
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<mgberlin>
hey, i'm looking through the ruby API, and many of the instance methods for array say "if no block is given, an enumerator is returned instead."
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<mgberlin>
what's an enumerator?
<LadyRainicorn>
Something that responds to each and includes Enumerable
<havenwood>
terrellt: Name a thing that includes Enumerable and doesn't respond to #each.
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<mgberlin>
so if I do foo = chicken.map, foo is an enumerable?
<havenwood>
terrellt: brokety broke if so
<shevy>
In Ruby we can do something like: Signal.trap('SIGINT') which captures ctrl+c. is there a way to also respond to ctrl+s key event?
<LadyRainicorn>
havenwood: ^
<havenwood>
that is bad code
<terrellt>
havenwood: Something I make. Extending enumerable doesn't define #each.
<havenwood>
terrellt: You could do so, but I don't see the use case. Is there one?
<LadyRainicorn>
No.
<LadyRainicorn>
I was just curious what the default behavior of each would be.
<terrellt>
havenwood: No, but what you said isn't true. If someone catches that and assumes they get #each for free they're in for a surprise.
<LadyRainicorn>
shevy: I believe that would be sent as a keycode depending on your configuration.
<LadyRainicorn>
You probably want to look into raw mode.
<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
rawr mode sounds nifty
<LadyRainicorn>
ctrl+C is special
<terrellt>
Oh man
<havenwood>
terrellt: I should have said that all the builtins that include Enumerable have #each, as you'd never include Enumerable and not define it.
<LadyRainicorn>
It's actually a signal, not a keycode
<terrellt>
I want to put ruby into rawr mode.
<shevy>
oh well :( I thought I could respond to key-events and automatically run certain methods upon keybinding events
<LadyRainicorn>
You can.
<shevy>
hmm
<LadyRainicorn>
Look into raw mode.
<havenwood>
Well you might, I'd never. :P
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<LadyRainicorn>
I believe requiring readline may help
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<ericwood>
some jerks are removing curses from the ruby stdlib!
<LadyRainicorn>
:o
<shevy>
ericwood hehehe
<shevy>
oh it just striked me... havenwood and ericwood have wood in common
<havenwood>
shevy: familial name
<LadyRainicorn>
Yay wood!
<havenwood>
Holidays have slowed my brain to molasses pace.
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<ericwood>
havenwood is my cousin
<havenwood>
terrellt: yeah, re-reading i agree with you - i'm off today :P
<havenwood>
LadyRainicorn: I recant.
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<terrellt>
Trying to figure out how to alias puts in one line so I can put ruby into rawr mode.
<havenwood>
rawr mode?
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<terrellt>
If I put a semicolon after alias :oldputs :puts, it doesn't work.
<ericwood>
rawrrrrr
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<LadyRainicorn>
raw mode is for the terminal, not Ruby
<ericwood>
I like the name of it a lot
<ericwood>
very fierce
<LadyRainicorn>
STDIN.raw!
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<ericwood>
you have to put the ! to be extra emphatic about it
<LadyRainicorn>
You probably want to use raw with a block tbh
<havenwood>
platzhirsch: Really smooths out the "stop the world" jitters
<platzhirsch>
yeah, that would be lovely
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<platzhirsch>
hah, the video is funny, but I wonder why the GC should have influenced the outcome of his demo :)
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<shevy>
it's so fast that I can no longer see the bytes passing by
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<havenwood>
2GB of read-only objects being scanned whilst world is stopped with mark and sweep, versus the shiny new generational garbage collector since longer life objects don't have to be scanned each time
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<havenwood>
only the actually new stuff gets checked, which is quick, so no jitters :)
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<mzdravkov>
guys, block and lambdas take the scope from the caller. Is there something similar that runs in the receiver? For example if I have class A with method llama() and method blocky(&block) that takes block. If I run A.new.blocky {llama} it will tell me that there is no such method for my current scope
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<mzdravkov>
I want something that will have the methods of the receiver's scope (A's methods from the example)
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<Iszak>
Anyone got a ruby vagrant box?
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<havenn>
ls
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<havenwood>
Iszak: An updated recent Arch, Fedora or openSUSE box should have latest stable Ruby (or one patch off) or are you looking for a box with chruby or RVM or the like already configured?
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<Iszak>
havenwood I meant a puppet manifest ideally.
<havenwood>
ahh
<havenwood>
gotcha, i misunderstood
<Iszak>
havenwood actually, I badly conveyed what I meant.
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