#ruby on 2013-12-18 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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01:17 <flaccid> i'm trying to understand how to do a basic metaprogramming technique where i need to call a method foo.bar where bar is a string, e.g. it is defined by def self.get(bar) so it would actually be doing foo.foobar if bar=foobar. should i be using define_method or something?

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01:21 <flaccid> hmm i guess just keep it simple and use .send()

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01:25 <lewix_> flaccid: I don't understand the question

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01:27 <bnagy> yes, use send. It's what it's for.

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01:27 <bnagy> not sure about calling it a metaprogramming technique though

01:28 <bnagy> it's just dynamic method dispatch

01:29 <flaccid> bnagy: i see, its just mentioned on the net alot as metaprogramming

01:30 <bnagy> *shrug*

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01:30 <flaccid> yeah you know me, not a ruby guy properly yet

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02:46 <sc00l> is there a shortcut for making an array of integers? similar to:

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02:47 <sc00l> >> %w(a b c)

02:47 <eval-in> sc00l => ["a", "b", "c"] (https://eval.in/80485)

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03:17 <krainboltgreene> sc00l: I don't believe so.

03:18 <krainboltgreene> sc00l: There is a symbol version though, and there was a patch file for it. Perhaps you could make a integer version?

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03:18 <sc00l> krainboltgreene: I couldn't find anything in my googling

03:19 <sc00l> krainboltgreene: I was curious

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03:23 <krainboltgreene> sc00l: Having a really hard time finding the patch for symbols.

03:23 <krainboltgreene> Ask the RVM maintainers where it went.

03:24 <sc00l> krainboltgreene: what do you mean *patch for symbols*. Do you mean:

03:24 <sc00l> >> %i(a b c)

03:24 <eval-in> sc00l => [:a, :b, :c] (https://eval.in/80496)

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03:26 <krainboltgreene> Yeah, that used to be a patch in RVM before 2.0.0

03:26 <krainboltgreene> At least I remember it being there.

03:26 <krainboltgreene> I suggested it because you could use it to implement an integer version.

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03:29 <sc00l> krainboltgreene: oh I gotcha, I didn't know that

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03:59 <scientes> how do i open an abstract UNIX domain socket?

03:59 <scientes> i.e. starts with "@"

03:59 <scientes> open() isn't working

03:59 <scientes> i get ENOENT

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04:01 <varfoo> how do i get the difference? i.e. "abc" "abcdef" = "def"

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04:02 <scientes> varfoo, that is a really vague question

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04:05 <varfoo> can't think of a better way to say it at the moment.. so a="abc" b="ab" how can i check which values exist? and take out the ones that cannot be compared

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04:06 <scientes> well you could just do b[a.len:-1]

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04:06 <scientes> but thats not what you want

04:06 * scientes keeps thinking in c cause has been writing c

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04:08 <scientes> but seriously no abstract unix domain socket?

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05:34 <flaccid> hey guys, i'm trying to find a library that you can do ssh commands through a persistent ssh tunnel. the problem as always is there is a lot of options which may or may not do what is needed. should i be looking at net-ssh-gateway ?

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05:36 <flaccid> or perhaps, net-ssh-shell

05:36 <flaccid> http://rubygems.org/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&query=ssh

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05:52 <lagweezle> https://github.com/capistrano/sshkit ?

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05:52 <lagweezle> I can't actually "recommend" it, as I've not used it yet.

05:52 <lagweezle> But, you know, just to muddy the water more. ;)

05:54 <flaccid> lagweezle: thanks, there is some good stuff in there. i just not sure if it fits

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05:57 <flaccid> considering mitchelh is on http://rubygems.org/gems/net-ssh-shell and i can assign the output to a variable, maybe that will do

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06:17 <flaccid> nope that was too old as is most of these. starting to get ridiculous

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06:39 <hogoo> hi

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07:09 <pontiki> hi

07:09 <pontiki> børk børk børk

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07:34 <sheap> <3

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07:44 <GreatSUN> good morning

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07:44 <noc0de> evening!\

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07:48 <pontiki> and so it goes

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08:19 <gauteh> hey, anyone know how rubyforge is going..? been down for me for a week soon..

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08:50 <rdevilla> How does one stub file IO?

08:51 <rdevilla> For instance, I have a class that reads data from a tab delimited file into a hash - how do I ensure this is done properly

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08:53 <Hanmac> rdevilla: you are parsing csv-like files? there is a CSV lib for that in stdlib

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08:53 <rdevilla> Hanmac: I can parse them fine with split

08:53 <rdevilla> I am just wondering how to stub them in RSpec

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08:53 <rdevilla> so I don't actually have to create a text file and hit the FS

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08:54 <Hanmac> rdevilla: StringIO ?

08:55 <rdevilla> Hanmac: My class takes in a filename string, how would I set this up

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08:55 <Hanmac> Tempfile ?

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10:10 <moneydouble> hi

10:12 <Jamo> hi

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10:32 <lugzer> hello

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10:33 <hogoo> hey guys, i have a question. What is your favorite gem regardless of field?

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10:33 <hogoo> i want to know many gems. So if you can, please recommend some gems.

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10:34 <popl> Hematite is pretty neat.

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10:34 <hogoo> what is Hematite?

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10:35 <hogoo> could you explain about Hematite?

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10:37 <rdark> girlfriend: https://github.com/icebreaker/girlfriend

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10:38 <hogoo> what's this?

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10:50 <Hanmac> rdark: WTF?? ;D shevy look at his link

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10:57 <LadyRainicorn> They're minerals, Marie.

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11:04 <loving_ruby> hi guys

11:05 <loving_ruby> I am a beginner with Ruby and was thinking of starting a Ruby project, what would you guys recommend?

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11:07 <LiohAu> any cucumber user here? sounds like #cucumber is full of bots

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11:08 <rjhunter> loving_ruby: do you already have some experience with other programming languages?

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11:09 <rjhunter> LiohAu: I haven't used Cucumber for a long time, but I used to know it pretty well

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11:09 <LiohAu> rjhunter: I need to do something that sounds like really easy but I can't find a way to do it

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11:10 <LiohAu> rjhunter: so I use the "After" scenario hook to post the result of the scenario to a web service

11:11 <LiohAu> but my problem, is that I use the scenario.failed? method

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11:11 <LiohAu> and this method returns false, if the scenario has undefined/pending steps

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11:12 <workmad3> LiohAu: did you check for a scenario.pending? method? ;)

11:12 <LiohAu> so in the end, I have tests that are marked as "Passed" when they are actually half passed, since a part of the scenario is not even developped

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11:13 <workmad3> LiohAu: and then an after hook that does 'if scenario.failed? || scenario.pending?'

11:13 <LiohAu> workmad3: there is not .pending? method :(

11:13 <LiohAu> http://cukes.info/api/cucumber/ruby/yardoc/Cucumber.html

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11:14 <Xeago> I HATE JVM

11:14 <Xeago> or well, JAVA/JVM ECO

11:14 <rjhunter> LiohAu: try .passed? or .status

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11:16 <loving_ruby> In Java I have created a multithreaded client server chat, and other simple GUIs such as a text editor

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11:18 <LiohAu> rjhunter: I already tried these methods, i'm trying again since I don't remember the result ^^

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11:19 <rjhunter> Xeago: the JVM is pretty awesome in some situations -- it depends on what you're trying to do with it

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11:19 <rjhunter> Xeago: i'm guessing you're in one of the situations where it's not-awesome

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11:21 <rjhunter> loving_ruby: You could try re-implementing one of those with Ruby to see how it compares

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11:22 <rjhunter> loving_ruby: (spoiler: Ruby isn't famous for native GUI apps nor for amazing threading)

11:22 <workmad3> LiohAu: have a look at scenario.methods.sort to get an idea of what's on there

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12:16 <g3orge> why this doesn't work?? http://ideone.com/OHsI3E

12:16 <popl> what do you mean by "doesn't work"?

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12:16 <popl> does it sit at home playing video games all day?

12:17 <g3orge> no, it does not have one-s in the array but nils

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12:21 <rjhunter> g3orge: the line `ys = 1` doesn't do what you think it does

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12:22 <rjhunter> g3orge: after this statement runs, the original value of ys (nil) is still there, but the name `ys` isn't pointing to it anymore

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12:23 <g3orge> yes I figured. but why...? and how do I fix it?

12:23 <g3orge> I actually did fix it by using each_with_index

12:23 <g3orge> but IDK if this is the recommended method

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12:24 <smock_> hello gang!

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12:24 <smock_> I am trying to iterate over a bunch of dates, and I am coming short on how to pluck out the ones that are a) work days and b) not holidays in the US

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12:25 <smock_> here's what I have so far, based on a Stack Overflow question I found: (20.days.ago.to_date..Date.civil(2014,1,4)).select { |d| (1..5).include?(d.wday) }

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12:26 <smock_> what I am trying to establish is how to add a condition like d.holiday?(:us) (with the holidays gem from @alexdunae)

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12:27 <smock_> I was considering two distinct select {} blocks, but there must be a better way!

12:27 <zipper> Modern programming literally http://youtube.com/watch?v=uxJOyB…

12:28 <zipper> That is so me :C

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12:29 <rjhunter> g3orge: you can also use a block (or a second parameter) to Array.new

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12:31 <rjhunter> smock_: two select blocks is a pretty reasonable solution, especially if the logic itself is extracted to a method or a lambda

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12:33 <rjhunter> range_i_care_about.select(&is_workday).reject(&is_holiday)

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12:38 <rjhunter> g3orge: do you really want to fill the arrays with the number one? or was that a simplifying example?

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13:28 <jxport> Come on.. why the hell is "Jonathan Gillette, better known as why the lucky stiff" referred on Wikipedia to in the PAST tense.. he's not dead!

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13:39 <shevy> you have to ask the folks who wrote that article

13:39 <shevy> and I am 100% sure that none of them is here on #ruby

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14:18 <whitening> hi guys, could someone help me with translating Java code to Ruby, i'm having some trouble with byte shifts

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14:25 <Geniack> hello, i had a module inside a file together with some classes, that used that module, now i tried putting that module in an external file and included (require) the file, and changed the name of the module in the same file to something different, but when i try to run it this way, i am getting this error: <internal:lib/rubygems/custom_require>:29: stack level too deep (SystemStackError) i have no clue why this error happens, anyone?

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14:39 <Dreamer3> ok, how can i get my rib deadline buffer to survive a irb restart?

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15:20 <dweeb_> I want to send some HTTP request asynchronous. Should I use Threads or Fibers?

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15:25 <ruby_fan> even though my gem list shows the gems that am using in my ruby script still am getting error(2:in `require': no such file to load -- public_suffix (LoadError))

15:25 <ruby_fan> can anyone tell me please

15:25 <ruby_fan> how to fix

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15:33 <asteve> is there a better way to ensure that there are valid objects in a enum, that are not nil, than "enum.to_a.compact.size > 0"

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15:52 <link1511> hey all, i'm defining a function that returns a json object and i want to add fields to the json object conditionally with if statements and iterating through arrays

15:52 <link1511> whats the best way to do this?

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15:52 <link1511> i'm not sure if defining a key: value in an if will cut it

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16:04 <alex88> hi guys, what's the shortest way to create from [{ name: 'john' }, { name: 'frank' }...] an array of ['john','frank']?

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16:06 <ddd> hash.each do {|k,v| arr << k } something along that line

16:06 <ddd> err back that up

16:07 <ddd> hash.each do {|k,v| arr << k ; arr << v } something along that line

16:07 <ddd> forgot the v of k

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16:08 <alex88> ddd: sorry man, found that input.map { |person| person.name } works

16:08 <alex88> and returns the array of names

16:08 <canton7-mac> >> [{name: 'John'}, {name: 'Frank'}].map{ |x| x[:name] }

16:08 <eval-in> canton7-mac => ["John", "Frank"] (https://eval.in/80673)

16:08 <alex88> thanks a lot anyway!

16:08 <apeiros> alex88: means that what you have is not what you said you'd have, though

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16:08 <apeiros> since a hash won't allow person.name to access the :name key.

16:08 <alex88> apeiros: mmhh why? I asked the array of names

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16:09 <alex88> oh, sorry, that's an activerecord model, my fault!

16:09 <alex88> sorry guys

16:09 <havenwood> >> [{name: 'John'}, {name: 'Frank'}].flat_map &:values

16:09 <eval-in> havenwood => ["John", "Frank"] (https://eval.in/80674)

16:09 <apeiros> alex88: YourModel.pluck(:name)

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16:09 <apeiros> if you can operate on the model class directly or a scope of it

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16:10 <apeiros> it will reduce what is loaded from the db and what has to be deserialized. much faster than loading full models just to get the name from them.

16:10 <alex88> apeiros: well, I've tried with person.name and it seems to work, why pluck?

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16:10 <alex88> oh nope I'm inside a view so the actual full model is already loaded

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16:11 <ddd> alex88: cool. another way would be @arr = [] ; hash.each {|k,v| @arr << k.to_s ; @arr << v} # was what I was trying to show first. using .to_s doesn't copy the symbol. it converts to a string and removes the ':'

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16:11 <ddd> map is easier I guess :)

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16:11 <alex88> yeah, way easier to understand for me

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16:12 <ddd> cool

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16:13 <apeiros> alex88: the view is the wrong place to prepare data.

16:13 <apeiros> anyways, gotta go. cya guys

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16:13 <alex88> it's a rabl file

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16:13 <link1511> hey, will this produce a valid output?

16:13 <link1511> http://pastie.org/8561025

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16:13 <link1511> i'm confused about generating valid json conditionally

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16:13 <cout> apeirios: yeah I use views to store my data

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16:46 <zDog> how do i find what version of ruby i have on mac os x?

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16:47 <Parker0> zDog ruby -v

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16:48 <lagweezle> zDog: also check your path to find out where that ruby is from. If it isn't /usr/bin it is probably a non-OS X source like Homebrew or such.

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16:49 <zDog> how do i check the path?

16:49 <zDog> im a total noob

16:49 <zDog> im trying to install grunt and somethings

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16:49 <lagweezle> "which ruby"

16:49 <zDog> im on 1.8.7

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16:50 <lagweezle> zDog: SnowLeopard?

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16:50 <lagweezle> Mostly a guess.

16:50 <lagweezle> What is grunt?

16:51 <zDog> 10.8.5

16:51 <zDog> mountain lion i guess

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16:53 <lagweezle> Huh

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16:53 <havenwood> zDog: Update to 10.9.1 for Ruby 2.0.

16:54 <lagweezle> What havenwood said.

16:54 <havenwood> zDog: Or yeah, install 2.0 with Homebrew, ruby-install or RVM, etc.

16:54 <zDog> im on a work computer, dont want to upgrade to mavericks ntil i know all issues are fixed

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16:57 <Parker0> Anyone use textual to connect to IRC, I can connect to #ruby but cannot connect to #rubyonrails

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16:57 <lagweezle> zDog: Looked into Homebrew?

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16:58 <zDog> no, i dont need the latest ruby

16:58 <zDog> im just making sure i have it for grunt install

16:58 <lagweezle> Not so much the latest ruby, but it lets you get ruby-build and rbenv, which then lets you get version X of Ruby rather painlessly.

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17:00 <havenwood> lagweezle: or better yet, ruby-install and chruby :)

17:00 <zDog> i do need to insall jekyll

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17:00 <lagweezle> havenwood: I suspect I need to go check in to those.

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17:06 <zDog> how do i install ruby gems?

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17:07 <Jamo> gem install <gem_name>

17:07 <Jamo> like

17:07 <Hanmac> zDog: ruby gems or "rubygems" ?

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17:07 <Jamo> ah

17:07 <Hanmac> i tihnk you should first install newer ruby

17:07 <zDog> gem install jekyll doesnt work, so i dont have gem

17:07 <zDog> ok

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17:10 <Parker0> zDog install rubygems --> http://rubygems.org/pages/download

17:11 <lagweezle> Oh, so, moving from 1.9.3 to 2.? ... is there anything I should be expecting to break? Be terribly different?

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17:11 <lagweezle> Not Sure where I should read on this. (Still possess much noobness)

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17:16 <sirecote> lagweezle: changelog usually helps

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17:17 <lagweezle> Hrm. Maybe I should rephrase...

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17:17 <lagweezle> I'm getting the idea that Ruby 2.* isn't terribly different from 1.9.*, which is very unlike the Python 2.* vs 3.* world. Is this an incorrect understanding?

17:18 <lagweezle> 2.* is an incremental change, with most things staying the same in Ruby land, just some folks are very slow in moving to it?

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17:18 <yxhuvvd> ruby took the big jump between 1.8.x and 1.9

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17:18 <cout> 1.9 was supposed to be the playground for 2.0

17:19 <cout> but then it took too long for all the "Rite" (2.0) features to come around, so 1.9 became "stable"

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17:19 <cout> at least, that's my take on it

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17:21 <lagweezle> Gotcha. I am far less confused, now. :)

17:21 <lagweezle> Thank you

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17:34 <shevy> lagweezle 1.9 was the transition-phase ruby towards 2.0, away from 1.8

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17:38 <lagweezle> shevy: thankee

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18:16 <shevy> class Foo; end; module Bar; end

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18:16 <shevy> Foo.class_eval { include Bar }

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18:17 <shevy> are there better ways to do that at runtime?

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18:19 <waxjar> shevy: Foo.send :include, Bar would work right?

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18:21 <shevy> hmm I think so

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18:21 <shevy> lemme test a little

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18:24 <shevy> seems to be the same

18:24 <shevy> curious :)

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18:54 <xibalba> http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~galles/visualization/Algorithms.html

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19:01 <asteve> how do I reload an object during tests?

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19:03 <codygman> Hi, I'm trying to backport ruby-net-ssh from debian jessie to debian wheezy. However I keep getting this error: https://gist.github.com/codygman/8027848 More specifically I'm backporting ruby-net-ssh so I can backport the debian jessie vagrant for my work.

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19:03 <codygman> When I open irb and type in "require 'mocha/setup'" it works fine.

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19:04 <codygman> nevermind, no it doesn't... but I have it installed "Installed: 0.11.3-3"

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19:05 <havenwood> codygman: is the irb you're using that same system Ruby 1.8?

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19:06 <havenwood> codygman: did you use update-alternatives to select `ruby` and `gem`?

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19:07 <codygman> havenwood: about irb version: https://gist.github.com/codygman/8027920

19:07 <havenwood> codygman: yeah, so that is the issue

19:07 <codygman> havenwood: I haven't manually updated any alternatives, no.

19:07 <codygman> The issue is using update alternatives to select ruby and gem?

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19:07 <havenwood> codygman: you're irb is 1.9.3, which uses different directory for the gems - you've got the gem installed in 1.9 but not in 1.8

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19:08 <havenwood> codygman: that would be one solution, yeah

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19:08 <havenwood> s/you're/your

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19:09 <codygman> havenwood: Oh, I see what you mean. By default when I run "ruby" it gives me this though: ruby 1.9.3p194 Is the ruby-net-ssh package specifically using ruby1.8?

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19:10 <sjohnson> hi, some noob ruby questions: to install the zipruby gem, must I wget / download it first? or does ''gem'' work like perl's cpan and try to download it for you?

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19:10 <codygman> Also update_alternatives tells me that I have ruby1.9.1 as my default.

19:10 <alpha123> sjohnson: Just gem install zipruby

19:10 <sjohnson> alpha123: i am getting an error. am i allowed to paste one-liners here?

19:10 <havenwood> codygman: yeah, just set it to 1.8 if you've got to use 1.8: update-alternatives --config ruby

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19:10 <havenwood> codygman: and: update-alternatives --config gem

19:11 <alpha123> sjohnson: Sure.

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19:11 <sjohnson> alpha123: here it is: /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `gem_original_require': no such file to load -- net/https (LoadError)

19:11 <alpha123> Oh. Hm. Well.

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19:11 <alpha123> Firstly I suggest upgrading your Ruby to something newer than 1.8 ;)

19:11 <sjohnson> this is a hella-old machine and it has ruby 1.8.7, fwiw.

19:12 <sjohnson> yeah, i had a feeling that was coming :)

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19:13 <havenwood> 2.0.0+ ftw

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19:14 <alpha123> sjohnson: Make sure libopenssl-ruby is installed.

19:15 <codygman> havenwood: LOL, now that I've updated to using 1.8 as default it is trying to use ruby 1.9.1: https://gist.github.com/codygman/8027848#file-gistfile1-sh-L13 (updated)

19:15 <sjohnson> alpha123: will try, thank you.

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19:17 <sjohnson> alpha123: that was a step in the right direction. allow me to quickly gist what it says now

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19:18 <sjohnson> alpha123: https://gist.github.com/smujohnson/8028120

19:19 <alpha123> sjohnson: What OS are you on? Don't say Windows.

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19:19 <codygman> I think the problem is ruby gems packaged with debian is only 1.8. That doesn't explain it trying to use 1.9 after I setup alternatives to use 1.8 though. I guess I need to ask #debian.

19:20 <sjohnson> alpha123: this particular machine is running a very damn old version of ubuntu, 9.10

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19:20 <agent_white> eep

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19:25 <sjohnson> alpha123: some guy basically used rake to build a chrome extension.. so it's not the end of the world. google provides a bash script to do the same thing so i might just hack that together. thanks for the help, though.

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19:25 <alpha123> sjohnson: Well, good luck. I'm not quite sure what your problem is currently, unfortunately, so I can't really help you further.

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19:26 <shevy> the problem is he is using debian

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19:27 <alpha123> lol

19:27 <alpha123> True.

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19:29 <sjohnson> alpha123: problem as a whole: trying to get rake to work. it uses zipruby. can't install it using gem.

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19:31 <codygman> shevy: It never breaks though, at least not for the past 6 years. I think the tradeoff of backporting packages vs fixing broken systems is fair.

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19:33 <shevy> yeah

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19:33 <shevy> people who want change shouldn't use a distribution built for eternity

19:34 <chrisseaton> Hi everyone. In the main object (self at IRB or the top level of a file) there is an 'include' method. Where does this come from? The core lib documentation only says that there is an include on Module, and main is Object, so where does it come from?

19:34 <codygman> shevy: I didn't change, my job decided to use cool new vagrant features :P

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19:34 <shevy> chrisseaton probably module Kernel

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19:34 <shevy> hmm

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19:35 <chrisseaton> shevy: I don't see Kernel#include - it doesn't seem to be in the 2.0 docs

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19:35 <shevy> yeah

19:35 <shevy> it's indeed only in module Module http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.0.0/Module.html#method-i-include

19:35 <chrisseaton> shevy: I understand main is a special object, but this method must still come from somehwere

19:35 <shevy> "Invokes Module.append_features on each parameter in reverse order."

19:36 <shevy> it does not come from module Module?

19:36 <shevy> in all .rb files you have "include" working as is

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19:36 <chrisseaton> shevy: but main isn't a module, it's an Object (self.class in REPL or top level of a file)

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19:38 <shevy> not quite sure what you mean. You mean that include should not work, right?

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19:39 <chrisseaton> shevy: well I'm happy that it works, I just can't understand how it finds that method on the main object - it's not in its class, so where does it come from?

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19:39 <chrisseaton> shevy: or in other words, where in the documentation does it explain what self.include should do

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19:40 <shevy> I never seen self.include

19:40 <chrisseaton> shevy: when self is the main object

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19:40 <shevy> >> Module.ancestors

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19:40 <eval-in> shevy => [Module, Object, Kernel, BasicObject] (https://eval.in/80710)

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19:41 <shevy> I am also not sure what problem you see. isn't that how ruby deals with inheritance? it looks up the inheritance chain. I am sure the module Module gets mixed into something

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19:42 <shevy> Kernel must be high on the food chain

19:42 <shevy> Object must come later

19:42 <shevy> and then must come Module. at least that's how I see it right now when looking at .ancestors

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19:43 <jaybe> hi. i install gems with --user-install and --bindir ~/bin. i need to use `bundle` to install deps, etc. for a repo/project. can/does bundle provide for installing dependencies in the same --user-install fashion?

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19:43 <shevy> oops

19:43 <chrisseaton> shevy: but that's the ancestors of Module - not the ancestors of main

19:43 <MrZYX> jaybe: it should respect a ~/.gemrc

19:43 <shevy> Module is actually a class

19:43 <shevy> chrisseaton what is "main"

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19:44 <chrisseaton> shevy: the object that is self in the top level of a file or the IRB

19:44 <chrisseaton> >> self.class

19:44 <eval-in> chrisseaton => Object (https://eval.in/80711)

19:44 <chrisseaton> >> include

19:44 <sjohnson> alpha123: figured it out. apt-get install ruby-dev

19:44 <eval-in> chrisseaton => Object (https://eval.in/80712)

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19:44 <chrisseaton> shevy: so self is an object, but an object with an include method. Where does the include method from come? Object doesn't have an include method, so what's going on?

19:44 <jaybe> MrZYX, i suppose i should begin, then, by creating/configuring ~/.gemrc :) # thanks

19:45 <alpha123> sjohnson: Oh, nice! Haha, Debian isn't very nice there. :P

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19:45 <shevy> chrisseaton the include method must come from class Module

19:45 <MrZYX> jaybe: in your case it would look like: install: --user-install --bindir ~/bin I guess

19:45 <chrisseaton> shevy: but self isn't of class Module, it's of class Object, and Object doesn't inherit from Module

19:45 <sjohnson> alpha123: sweet. thanks for the other ssl tip!

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19:46 <jaybe> MrZYX, so i should put that in my .gemrc and bundle should then respect that? e.g. > install: --user-install --bindir ~/bin

19:46 <shevy> yeah, the part confuses me. I thought Module is a module

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19:46 <MrZYX> jaybe: iirc, at least worth a try

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19:46 <chrisseaton> shevy: I guess this is some special case just for the main object, that isn't documented

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19:47 <alpha123> sjohnson: Thank Google, I just searched around a bit. ;P

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19:53 <shevy> chrisseaton hmm

19:53 <shevy> I am confused... how can Object have it if class Module is at a later stage

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20:10 <jaybe> MrZYX, thanks re: .gemrc, --user-install, etc. got it working. much better than command line arguments every time :)

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20:50 <alexherbo2> how does ruby line-oriented streaming (like grep)?

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20:52 <alexherbo2> make | filter_make_output.rb | do_something_with_filtered_make_output.rb

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20:53 <MrZYX> read from ARGF, write to stdout

20:53 <alexherbo2> i would do_something_with_filtered_make_output.rb while filtering make output.

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21:09 <alexherbo2> the script https://bitbucket.org/alexherbo2/dotfiles/src/1dc4c43e6493891a2e40b77f486cf5e90fed6320/bin/interface

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21:10 <alexherbo2> and usage case https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8029867

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21:14 <MrZYX> alexherbo2: make sure to set $stdout.sync = true in the intermediate script(s) at least, then doing something like ARGF.each do |line| should just work as expected

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21:18 <MrZYX> alexherbo2: doing a single $stdin.read of course can't support a streaming interface, a single $stdin.read without further parameters blocks until EOF

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21:24 <s2013_> if i have a && b .. if a is false b will never be evaluated right?

21:25 <MrZYX> yes

21:25 <s2013_> k just making sure. thanks.

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21:30 <kbouwser> anyone have experience with SecureRandom for UUID's that can answer a question?

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21:30 <cbetta> kbouwser sure

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21:31 <kbouwser> thanks ^^. i'm relatively new but my project is a workout creator. When you choose "create a workout" a new workout is automatically generated and you are able to add/delete exercises with a nested model form

21:31 <kbouwser> at the moment, the workout plans are as such: /plans/:id (typically 1, 2, 3, etc)

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21:32 <kbouwser> I wanted to change it so when a workout is created, it is given a UUID by default

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21:32 <cbetta> ok

21:32 <kbouwser> but, i honestly am unsure how to include the SecureRandom in my application

21:32 <MrZYX> I'd recommend to just use something like https://github.com/assaf/uuid

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21:32 <kbouwser> I imagine the controller but unsure how to define it

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21:33 <cbetta> it's part of stdlib

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21:33 <cbetta> so you should just be able to do SecureRandom.uuid

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21:33 <MrZYX> kbouwser: I'm assuming rails, so it should a before_create in your model, but those details are for #rubyonrails

21:33 <cbetta> anywhere you want

21:33 <kbouwser> yea, it's rails

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21:33 <cbetta> yeah when and where to create it is a different question

21:33 <cbetta> as in #rails

21:34 <cbetta> ask

21:34 <kbouwser> ok, my apologies

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21:34 <kbouwser> thanks for the help

21:34 <cbetta> no worries

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21:42 <platzhirsch> What's up in the Ruby mine

21:42 <Underbyte> hey guys, keep getting this error when trying to test my sinatra/passenger/nginx deployment:

21:42 <Underbyte> cannot load such file -- rubygems/format (LoadError)

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21:42 <Underbyte> any ideas? :-|

21:42 <vpretzel> you can't load a file

21:42 <vpretzel> apparently

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21:42 <Underbyte> well yeah i inferred that much :P

21:42 <vpretzel> have you checked the validity of your Gemfile?

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21:43 * Underbyte is a devops sysadmin who is not that familiar with ruby

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21:43 <Underbyte> is that a simple command?

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21:44 <wmoxam> Underbyte: how did you deploy this app?

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21:44 <wmoxam> Underbyte: also, does it run on your local system?

21:44 <Underbyte> pretty much following this tut: http://www.modrails.com/documentation/Users%20guide%20Nginx.html

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21:45 <Underbyte> if by 'local system', you mean my workstation, no. It's deployed on a ubuntu instance in the rackspace cloud

21:45 <wmoxam> ok

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21:45 <wmoxam> Underbyte: did you deploy via capistrano?

21:46 <wmoxam> Underbyte: or did you just check it out via source control? Or????

21:46 <grvgr> @Underbyte: i've seen this issue with ruby 2.0.0

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21:46 <grvgr> try switching to 1.9.3 if you're not dependent on 2.0.0 for now

21:46 <vpretzel> lol

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21:46 <vpretzel> "switch to an older more unsecure version"

21:47 <vpretzel> says a man to a sysadmin

21:47 <wmoxam> yeah

21:47 <wmoxam> not helpful :p

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21:47 <Underbyte> rofl

21:47 <grvgr> @Underbyte or upgrade your bundler to v1.3.0+. that should also work.

21:47 <wmoxam> 2.0.0 is very production worthy at this point

21:48 <shevy> Underbyte who tries to require the file format.rb

21:48 <Underbyte> yeah, our apps depend on 2.0

21:48 <Underbyte> grvgr: how to do that?

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21:48 <grvgr> gem update bundler

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21:48 <wmoxam> Underbyte: basically I'm asking the above questions (which you are ignoring) because I suspect that you haven't run 'bundle install'

21:48 <grvgr> latest stable is 1.3.5 according to https://rubygems.org/gems/bundler

21:49 <Underbyte> wmoxam: no, i've ran 'bundle install' on the gemfile

21:49 <wmoxam> Underbyte: completed without error?

21:49 <grvgr> check current version with bundle -v

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21:49 <Underbyte> "/var/www/analytics# gem update bundler

21:49 <Underbyte> Nothing to update"

21:49 <Underbyte> Updating installed gems

21:49 <Underbyte> # bundle -v

21:49 <Underbyte> Bundler version 1.3.5

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21:50 <wmoxam> Underbyte: # ruby -v

21:50 <Underbyte> # ruby -v

21:50 <Underbyte> ruby 2.0.0p353 (2013-11-22 revision 43784) [x86_64-linux]

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21:50 <wmoxam> hrm

21:51 <wmoxam> Underbyte: # which ruby

21:51 <wmoxam> Underbyte: and does that match your Passenger config?

21:51 <Underbyte> # which ruby

21:51 <Underbyte> "/usr/local/rvm/rubies/ruby-2.0.0-p353/bin/ruby"

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21:51 <wmoxam> ah, rvm

21:51 <grvgr> hmm

21:51 <grvgr> yea

21:52 <grvgr> rvm -v ?

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21:52 <wmoxam> Underbyte: and does that match your Passenger config?

21:52 <shevy> die

21:52 <Underbyte> hold on, i'm getting it

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21:52 <Underbyte> rvm 1.24.8 (stable) by Wayne E. Seguin <wayneeseguin@gmail.com>, Michal Papis <mpapis@gmail.com> [https://rvm.io/]

21:52 <wmoxam> kk

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21:53 <Underbyte> http://pastebin.com/Jai6i3gp

21:53 <grvgr> and gem -v?

21:53 <Underbyte> (for passanger config stuff)

21:53 <Underbyte> gem is 2.1.11

21:54 <Underbyte> in my nginx.conf:

21:54 <Underbyte> passenger_root /usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/phusion_passenger/locations.ini;

21:54 <Underbyte> passenger_ruby /usr/local/rvm/wrappers/ruby-2.0.0-p353/ruby;

21:55 <wmoxam> Underbyte: I don't see a setting for: http://www.modrails.com/documentation/Users%20guide%20Nginx.html#PassengerRuby

21:55 <wmoxam> Underbyte: that's what I'm looking for

21:55 <wmoxam> Underbyte: ie: it could be set to the 'system' ruby

21:55 <wmoxam> thus it's the wrong version

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21:55 <wmoxam> oh nm

21:55 <wmoxam> I see you did paste it

21:55 <Underbyte> :)

21:56 <Underbyte> i've been banging my head against the wall on this one for days, i had a feeling you wanted to see that :)

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21:56 <Underbyte> finally FINALLY got nginx to serve up stuff to passenger, only to be stopped by this sad panda ruby problem

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21:57 <MrZYX> do you have a stack trace associated with the load error?

21:58 <grvgr> can you try `type -a ruby`

21:58 <grvgr> and see which other ruby versions you have on the system

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21:59 <wmoxam> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20647112/phusion-passenger-there-was-an-error-in-your-gemfile-and-bundler-cannot-contin <--- this is the problem that Underbyte is having

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21:59 <sec^nd> How do I do a method with default arguments?

21:59 <wmoxam> unfortunately the solution sucks

21:59 <Underbyte> MrZYX: yeah, here's the error page that passenger is serving up when i try to access the session. It has just about every variable i would possibly think on there: http://pastebin.com/W3Tajuyk

21:59 <MrZYX> sec^nd: def foo(arg=default)

21:59 <Underbyte> (minus a few redacted things)

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22:00 <MrZYX> Underbyte: what's type -a bundle

22:00 <MrZYX> ?

22:00 <sec^nd> MrZYX: and how do I use that method(call it)?

22:00 <Underbyte> bundle is /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353@global/bin/bundle

22:00 <Underbyte> bundle is /usr/bin/bundle

22:00 <Underbyte> bundle is /usr/local/rvm/bin/bundle

22:00 <MrZYX> sec^nd: foo() or foo(notdefault)

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22:00 <MrZYX> Underbyte: /usr/local/rvm/bin/bundle -v ?

22:01 <MrZYX> wait nvm

22:01 <Underbyte> 1.3.5

22:01 <MrZYX> /usr/bin/bundle -v ?

22:01 <sec^nd> MrZYX: if I have method def foo(a=1, b=3) end How can I call it while only setting b?

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22:01 <MrZYX> sec^nd: you can't

22:01 <wmoxam> ugh, this is why I don't use rvm/rbenv in production :p

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22:01 <Underbyte> MrZYX: http://pastebin.com/Pbad2A7x

22:01 <shevy> yeah

22:01 <sec^nd> MrZYX: what is the way to do so then?

22:02 <shevy> Underbyte why do you use rvm

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22:02 <sec^nd> MrZYX: What is this syntax then? foo(a => 10) ?

22:02 <wmoxam> shevy: a lot of docs tell ppl to do that

22:02 <wmoxam> :/

22:02 <MrZYX> sec^nd: that's passing a hash to foo, it's the same as foo({a => 10})

22:02 <shevy> wmoxam yeah

22:02 <shevy> people make me sad

22:02 <havenwood> sec^nd: Keyword arguments are a nice way to switch connaissance of position for name: http://brainspec.com/blog/2012/10/08/keyword-arguments-ruby-2-0/

22:02 <Underbyte> yeah, its a pretty bone standard thing to have on a rails/sinatra/passenger machine

22:02 <shevy> the docs make me sad as well

22:03 <shevy> people are noobs

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22:03 <wmoxam> shevy: it's a cost thing for some ppl too

22:04 * Underbyte notes that the person who isn't hiding his public IP (84.112.136.52) is calling people noobs :P

22:04 <wmoxam> ie: I've got a Ruby 1.9 app and a Ruby 2.0.0 app and a jruby app and I'm going to put them on a $10 VPS!

22:04 <alpha123> wmoxam: No Rubinius app? :(

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22:04 <MrZYX> Underbyte: okay, this is annoying to do for nginx, but I'd recommend that you do gem install passenger in your RVM env and then run passenger-nginx-setup or what the command was called, you're mixing the passenger installed for your system ruby with the ruby you installed through RVM, this is very error prone as you experience

22:04 <wmoxam> alpha123: no :(

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22:05 <alpha123> wmoxam: Needs more Rubinius and mruby. You can always use more rubies. :D

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22:05 <sec^nd> ahh

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22:05 <sec^nd> I can do keyword arguments

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22:05 <sec^nd> thanks havenwood

22:05 <MrZYX> Underbyte: if you got that route you want to get rid of the nginx package first, iirc

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22:06 <wmoxam> I thank the Rubinius crew for rubyspec

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22:06 <wmoxam> but still have no idea why I'd want to use it in production

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22:07 <wmoxam> I guess native threads without jruby's startup time/memory footprint?

22:07 <alpha123> It's pretty fast, too.

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22:07 <workmad3> wmoxam: well, ruby 1.9+ uses native threads... it just has the GIL so only a single one can be active at a time

22:07 <workmad3> wmoxam: rubinius removes the GIL

22:07 <alpha123> And allows some neat metaprogramming tricks, but at the expense of portability.

22:07 <wmoxam> workmad3: don't quibble with me sir!

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22:08 <workmad3> wmoxam: ;)

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22:08 <workmad3> wmoxam: if I don't spend my time pedantically quibbling with people on IRC, those people will remain wrong! I'm doing a public service here!

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22:08 <havenwood> MRI doesn't have a GIL anymore either (long live the GVL!) :P

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22:08 <wmoxam> heh

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22:09 <workmad3> havenwood: GVL? :)

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22:09 <alpha123> workmad3: No more people wrong on the internets!

22:09 <havenwood> global vm lock

22:09 <workmad3> havenwood: hehe

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22:09 <workmad3> havenwood: TIL :D

22:09 <workmad3> havenwood: how about GRL? Global Runtime Lock

22:10 <havenwood> GOL Global OMGWTFBBQ Lock

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22:10 <workmad3> alpha123: I do my best, but people seem to get upset when I point out they're wrong

22:10 <alpha123> havenwood: Seems legit.

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22:10 <alpha123> workmad3: You're missing a punctation.

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22:10 <alpha123> ;D

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22:11 <workmad3> alpha123: you could also have complained about the use of a ',' before the 'but' :)

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22:11 <alpha123> Or the use of straight quotes, but since I can't figure out how to type proper ones on Linux I can't really complain about that one. ;P

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22:13 <MrZYX> try alt+all your keys

22:13 <MrZYX> found ˝

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22:13 <workmad3> alpha123: `better' ?

22:13 <MrZYX> and „

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22:13 <alpha123> MrZYX: irssi running in tmux in urxvt

22:13 <MrZYX> and there's “

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22:13 <alpha123> workmad3: Nope.

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22:13 <alpha123> workmad3: http://smartquotesforsmartpeople.com/

22:14 <alpha123> I wish that told me the numbers for en and em-dashes as well, but... those aren't quotes. :P

22:14 <workmad3> alpha123: you fail the smart test... you can copy-paste the quotes from there ;)

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22:14 <alpha123> workmad3: I did that for a while, but it’s a bit tedious. :P

22:14 <workmad3> ‘foo’

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22:14 <fuzzyhorns> i'm reading through this

22:14 <fuzzyhorns> http://liufengyun.chaos-lab.com/prog/2013/10/23/continuation-in-ruby.html

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22:15 <fuzzyhorns> and am confused in the example after "jump to a previously exited function"

22:15 <fuzzyhorns> where c is being set

22:15 <workmad3> fuzzyhorns: fibres ftw!

22:15 <alpha123> Ooooh, continuations, this is going to be fun.

22:15 * alpha123 tends to forget Ruby has those.

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22:15 <shevy> goto 2.0!

22:16 <fuzzyhorns> is it just left over from the first example?

22:16 <fuzzyhorns> also this is all the way down under the header "Continuation in Ruby"

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22:18 <MrZYX> fuzzyhorns: never having looked into that stuff, but purely syntactical c is set here: c, size = g, it's the value of cc in g

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22:21 <workmad3> fuzzyhorns: the continuation captures the execution state too

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22:22 <workmad3> fuzzyhorns: so when 'f' does 'c.call(c)' it, in essence, jumps back to the line 'cc = callcc{|cc| cc}' in 'g', with local variables pointing at the same objects, etc.

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22:23 <workmad3> fuzzyhorns: so then execution continues, arr.shift occurs (which pops the next item off the array), control is returned to 'f' again... and so on

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22:29 <fuzzyhorns> workmad3: i follow everything except for how you can set c, size = g that way

22:29 <workmad3> fuzzyhorns: it's just a method return value

22:29 <fuzzyhorns> i've never seen syntax like that

22:29 <fuzzyhorns> with multiple things before config

22:29 <workmad3> fuzzyhorns: a, b = b, a

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22:30 <workmad3> fuzzyhorns: as the 'swap without tmp var' in ruby example :)

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22:30 <workmad3> fuzzyhorns: or even 'a, b = ary' to get the first two values from an array into variables

22:30 <MrZYX> fuzzyhorns: it's array decomposition, return a, b is implicit form of return [a, b], so it becomes c, size = [cc, arr.size]

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22:31 <workmad3> (or head, *tail = ary to get head and tail)

22:31 <fuzzyhorns> blowing my mind

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22:31 <workmad3> fuzzyhorns: array destructuring ftw! :)

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22:32 <lupine> what's wrong with car? ;)

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22:33 <fuzzyhorns> workmad3: wow this is new to me

22:33 <fuzzyhorns> thank you guys :)

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22:38 <workmad3> lupine: nothings wrong with either car or cdr ;)

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22:38 <workmad3> lupine: would you prefer if I did 'car, *cdr = list' in the future? ;)

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22:40 <lupine> plz

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22:46 <shevy> I would prefer if workmad3 wears pink underwear henceforthwith

22:46 <shevy> but it's not going to happen :(

22:47 <alexherbo2> MrZYX: thanks :) https://bitbucket.org/alexherbo2/dotfiles/commits/6d2cf6382ec3efc028838ed8cec23c32e6bad26d?at=master

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22:49 <workmad3> shevy: how do you know I'm not wearing pink underwear right now?

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22:50 <shevy> workmad3 you did not act girly enough the last 6 hours :)

22:51 * workmad3 giggles

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23:00 <workmad3> shevy: ok, I'm off to bed now anyway

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23:01 <blazeroot> Hi, could someone help me with problem with url encoding via faraday? I stuck when faraday uses Faraday::Utils.escape to escape params, it escapes '=' sing on the end of params value.

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23:02 <blazeroot> So i want http://exmaple.com/?signature=TEncfClIUpC2vbwHPHxAJKMMsT3233l%2BL6qDNyFLREA=&timestamp=123456 but i get http://example.com/?signature=TEncfClIUpC2vbwHPHxAJKMMsT3233l%2BL6qDNyFLREA%253D&timestamp=123456

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23:03 <blazeroot> Only way i found is monkey patching Faraday::Utils, but i don't want to do that.

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23:06 <shevy> perhaps Faraday::Utils just sucks

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23:07 <shevy> if you can't rely on the method, but you also don't want to modify, why don't you use a method that you wrote by yourself?

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23:07 <blazeroot> Because it's used inside Faraday processing before sending request

23:08 <blazeroot> I wrote my middleware but it doesn't work as i expected so i still can't skip it

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