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<pipecloud> waxjar: It is.
<pipecloud> It's just not very dependable and it looks weird.
<popl> sounds like some of my friends
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<LiohAu> can anybody tell me why this code : http://pastebin.com/bzb3gtXM produce this output : "result :
<LiohAu> {"userName": "LiohAu", "projectName": "Test-Template", "testPlanId": , "testCaseId": *, "iterationId": , "configurationName": "ConfigTest" }"
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<pipecloud> I don't read code that's written to make people sad.
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<LiohAu> should i transform the test_case_id and iteration_id to a string before ?
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<MrZYX> aah, globals
* MrZYX is sad now
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<LiohAu> it's like my 20th hour of ruby, so if you have advice go :)
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<LiohAu> don't think i'm a desperate cause
<pipecloud> LiohAu: Give me a moment, I'll rewrite it.
<MrZYX> is that meant to be json?
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<LiohAu> yes (I voluntary did not use a json serializer, because it seems that it requires an additional gem)
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<MrZYX> nah, we got json in stdlib
<LiohAu> ah ok, anyway it learn me how to concat a string :D
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<LiohAu> well I understood that I was writing the 42th ascii char that's why I get a star for the iterationId parameter :(
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<bnagy> heredocs have string interpolation
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<LiohAu> wow you learned me the "heredoc" term
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<MrZYX> so here's my version: http://paste.mrzyx.de/p06b1f21a/
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<bnagy> lolstruct
<MrZYX> :P
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<LiohAu> well I think that I can maintain or implement the other features like you did, so for now i'll try to be consistent with my newbie code
<LiohAu> can't maintain*
<pipecloud> LiohAu: Stick around, I've got something nicer.
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<MrZYX> nah, forget that globals exist
<pipecloud> Globals are things that ruby uses, not you.
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<pipecloud> MrZYX: Yours fails the test because it doesn't maybe use env! :p
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<LiohAu> MrZYX: the thing is that i'm writing that in the hooks.rb of cucumber (if you know), and I don't know what scope is this file
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<MrZYX> pipecloud: I rarely even read comments, they are like whitespace to me and whitespace needs to be stripped! :P
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<LiohAu> I don't know if I am in a class, and I don't even understand what are their hooks, if they are method of a given class or if they kind of anonymous methods
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<LiohAu> it's like if I was coding in a C "int main() { }" function without knowing that my code belongs to that function scope, so everything sounds like a global here
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<MrZYX> you mean you want to do something like foo = "bar", After do; do_something_with foo; end ?
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<LiohAu> for example yes
<MrZYX> then just do, no need for a global
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<LiohAu> but in your example what is the scope of "foo" ?
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<MrZYX> blocks inherit the scope (and thus all locals) they're defined in
<mdev> what are some big sites that are ruby powered?
<LiohAu> MrZYX: the cucumber hooks are what ruby calls blocks ?
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<pipecloud> MrZYX: So you write your ruby like this:
<pipecloud> };test_plan=TestPlan.new3,'Test-Template','LiohAu','ConfigTest';test_case_result=TestCaseResult.new(42,24,test_plan);puts("result:");puts(test_case_result.body)
<pipecloud> require'json';TestPlan=Struct.new(:id,:project_name,:username,:configuration_name);TestCaseResult=Struct.new(:id,:iteration_id,:test_plan){define_method(:body){'userName'=>test_plan.username,'projectName'=>test_plan.project_name,'testPlanId'=>test_plan.id,'testCaseId'=>id,'iterationId'=>iteration_id,'configurationName'=>test_plan.configuration_name}.to_json}
<pipecloud> I removed the whitespace for you.
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<MrZYX> pipecloud: sure, all day!
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<MrZYX> LiohAu: stuff between do end and { code } are called blocks, After is just a method that happens to look like a constant
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<LiohAu> ok so when I see a "def" keyword it's a method, but when I see the "do" keyword, it's a block, right?
<MrZYX> pipecloud: I was to lazy to type superfluous and found it might be superfluous to type superfluous ;)
<LiohAu> I should read "ruby for dummies" :D
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<MrZYX> LiohAu: yep
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<agent_white> LiohAu: do..end == {..}
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<agent_white> LiohAu: You should read _why's guide and the pickaxe, for starters!
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<LiohAu> ok that explains the different .each syntax I saw .each { |x| } and .each do |x| end
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<MrZYX> yeah, ruby doesn't care which one you choose. Many people choose the convention of using { } when the return value of the block matters and do end if it doesn't
<ddd> LiohAu: The Well-Grounded Rubyist. excellent book by David Black
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<ddd> manning.com/black2
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<LiohAu> when I execute a ruby script like this : "X=1 my_script" is X stored in the ENV ?
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<MrZYX> it should be
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<LiohAu> in the ENV of the shell and also in the ruby env right
<LiohAu> ?
<MrZYX> with that syntax only in the environment of the program you invoke
<waxjar> if your shell supports that feature it does :) to be safe you could use env
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<troyready> Trying to figure out why a chef (knife) plugin isn't working, and I think I'm running into an issue with my ruby ignorance: in irb, if I can successfully do "requires 'graphviz'", why does "g = GraphViz.new(...)" cause a "NameError: uninitialized constant GraphViz" error?
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<troyready> I'm getting the same error from https://github.com/aglarond/knife-role-spaghetti/blob/server-roles/lib/chef/knife/spaghetti.rb#L86 so I'm trying to figure out why
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<bnagy> if require works, then that graphviz.rb doesn't define that constant
<bnagy> check caps etc
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<troyready> Oh, derp -- looks like it was because I had the "graphviz" gem installed as well as "ruby-graphviz"
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<troyready> Thanks a ton bnagy -- that was exactly what I needed to point me in the right direction
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<bnagy> no problem
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<aces1up> anyone know if there is a wifi library for ruby i can use to access my wifi card internals?
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<rjhunter> aces1up: I don't know a Ruby library, but I imagine you'll need to find something platform-specific (Mac vs Windows vs Linux etc)
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<aces1up> yeh linux mainly.
<aces1up> not finding anything really.
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<agent_white> Write one! :D
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<rjhunter> aces1up: "Wireless Tools for Linux" (the iw* command line tools) are probably the basis for any Ruby library that does exist
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<bnagy> aces1up: what are you trying to do?
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<aces1up> how would i pipe a system command to an io object so that i could read the long running system command output from the io as it happens?
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<bnagy> check out the open3 stdlib
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<yw0> Hi, is there a standard parser in ruby implementation? I saw something called Ripper, but not sure if it is the best one to use. I need accurate location information for all names in ruby files.
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<Stevo123> Does Nokogiri or Open-URI have built in caches that are turned on by default?
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<Stevo123> I am loading a webpage for path scrape using Open-URI and nokogiri, but often the page will load but the scape will return the same results even though when viewing in the browser its different
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<bnagy> I am pretty bad at web stuff, but you might have better results with a JS enabled scraper
<bnagy> or cookies or who the hell knows
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<pipecloud> Stevo123: I would figure out if it's because your target is using JS to change the page, or if it's perhaps something with your user agent. There's a number of things it could be. I would suggest that you use phantomjs to automate scraping though.
<Stevo123> So it seems to be intermittent. So after a few min it would pick up the change
<bnagy> celerity is also awesome, if you use jruby
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<bnagy> I've done capybara with phantom, which has a really great dsl, and Celerity, which has better naive performance because of jruby parallel threads
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<bnagy> you could just process out on capybara/phantom though and get the same
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<Stevo123> would the url being https have any effect?
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<noob101> How do you use your method? Do I have to put a gets.chomp in my code??? How?
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<bnagy> oh no :(
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<frankperez87> Hi everyone,
<frankperez87> from anyones experience. I'm looking to get into GUI programming for desktop applications and was curious as to which way I should steer. I've seen info regarding Shoes4 and WxRuby, but what from everyones experience would be the best way to create gui applications cross platform (windows, mac, linux)
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<pipecloud> frankperez87: Shoes is a pretty neat one, but I think your best bet for a full framework is bundling gtk.
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<frankperez871> pipecloud: Thanks, ill read up on that.
<pipecloud> frankperez871: If you don't mind JRuby, there's more choices there.
<frankperez871> pipcloud: I'm new to gui development, so im trying to read up on as many as possible to see whats the best option. I'm looking for something full featured that will work cross platform
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<mdev> is there something ruby excels in, in paticular? like perl is know for scripting/regexp parsing, php for easy webdev development, c for cross platform and speed etc...
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<stevenhaddox> mdev: Ruby is probably most known for it's ease of understanding as a human and the community being strong advocates of testing
<stevenhaddox> mdev: and Rails
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<mdev> twitter was made in it, interesting
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<spike|spiegel> mdev: and twitter no longer uses it.
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<mdev> spike why not?
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<jacobsmith> mdev: I think it was because twitter got so big for it--because it's an interpreted language, there's only so much optimization you can do before you have to start writing custom solutions, or in compiled languages (Arduino, et al. use C for more or less the same reason)
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<mdev> makes sense read they switched to scala and use some VM
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<jacobsmith> yeah, ruby definitely can scale to fairly large sizes before you have to start doing things like that, especially on a JRuby implementation, because it allows true multitasking
<JBlazeCoder21> I think they had trouble with scaling at the time, yet this was awhile ago that they made the switch
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<JBlazeCoder21> and from what I read, Ruby does not have the same issues now
<JBlazeCoder21> I am not sure what version of Ruby it was, yet it was a much older version then whats out now
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<JBlazeCoder21> I was reading about the same topic on ROR group on LinkedIn
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<JBlazeCoder21> it was a pretty good thread
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<mdev> link me if you happen to have it on hand
<mdev> I knowo facebook had to do similar with php, now they run off a VM as well
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<jacobsmith> once you get to those scales, it's hard not to just write your own personal implementation
<jacobsmith> (of whatever technology it is, ruby, php, whatever)
<mdev> yeah I bet
<mdev> I doubt i'll have that problem though, if I do that'll be a good problem to have :)
<mdev> did you guys become proficient in ruby via tuts+trial and error or did you buy books? and if the latter can you recommend any?
<mdev> i'm rather suprised to read ruby is as old as php and a few years younger than python, only ever really heard about it these last few years
<jacobsmith> it's definitely taken off in the last 8-10 years
<existensil> its older than php
<existensil> wasn't PHP 1998?
<jacobsmith> I'm still more or less a beginner myself, but I've learned from lots of online tutorials and then making small projects for myself--they've progressively gotten better and also bigger in scale which has definitely helped me piece together a better understanding of the langauge
<existensil> nevermind. 1994, just like ruby
<jacobsmith> I also got involved in a local Ruby group which has helped a lot--just getting to talk with people who work professionally in the language has let me see some of what they still work on, so I kind of "see the path up ahead" if that makes sense
<existensil> i still kind of think of PHP 3 as being the first real attempt at something you'd call a language
<existensil> which was 1998
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<mdev> well the ruby tut i'm checking out seems pretty straight forward, so i'll dabble with tuts for now and search amazon for ruby books. I'm a freelance dev and see clients request ruby sometimes, and since I know various other languages I figure i'd add it to my repertoire
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<existensil> it is the most fun :-) i have done lots of PHP and a bit of Python (which is a close second for me, in joy, to Ruby), and lots of Java and others. whenever it makes even a little sense I'll choose ruby
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<existensil> that chart isn't very good
<jacobsmith> Yeah, it's fairly easy to pick up if you have a little bit of background -- once you get Ruby style blocks down and combine that with OO programming, it is a ton of fun to work with--and if you're just starting out (or want to brush up on just a few concepts) CodeAcademy.com has some great Ruby stuff
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<existensil> what's odd, is the charts provided show ruby as having more jobs than python, and more jobs per developer than PHP, yet they make the conclusion that both of those languages are better for a job seeker. ridiculous.
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<existensil> though, regardless of language (mostly) its a great time to be a developer :-)
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<jacobsmith> existensil: I hope so--I'm graduating in May with a Spanish degree and going into Ruby programming =P
<mdev> Thanks JBlazeCoder21 i'll check it out
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<existensil> mdev: I used a couple books, but mostly for reference, and ended up just picking up most of it as i needed it while working on a project.
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<existensil> i was a java developer who fell in love with ruby after helping my girlfriend with some, and got a startup to give me a chance to switch tech to ruby. knew very little really before starting, but new languages aren't hard after you know your first couple well
<existensil> just lots of google and docs
<existensil> railscast and some other screencasts also
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<existensil> and lots of reading other people's gems
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<JBlazeCoder21> can someone explain what writing a gem is in Ruby
<JBlazeCoder21> is it the same as plug-in
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<JBlazeCoder21> and is it easy to do?
<mdev> nice, well I usually use php since it's so incredibly easy but if ruby solves my problems or makes sense will have to incorporate it, I read companies sometimes want a ruby dev because it indicates they can work well with others
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<existensil> JBlazeCoder21: yes, basically, and yes
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<existensil> easy way to create a skeleton gem: bundle gem the_name_of_your_gem
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<existensil> will create a skeleton gem in a directory named after your gem
<JBlazeCoder21> you need to include the word "gem" first right
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<existensil> right
<JBlazeCoder21> ok
<existensil> this assumes you have the bundler gem installed
<MrLinuxSwigger> :-*Other public logging is prohibited ?
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<existensil> how you install gems (just in case): gem install gem_name
<JBlazeCoder21> you can pretty much have do what you want
<existensil> rubygems.org is the (generally accepted and default) repository of gems
<JBlazeCoder21> by installing a gem just means you can access it via the command line also
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<JBlazeCoder21> going to check that out
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<existensil> installing a gem installs that library so its available to your applications
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<existensil> so if you `gem install nokogiri` you can then do `require "nokogiri"` in your app
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<existensil> and not have to worry about load paths and what not
<JBlazeCoder21> I see, into your current working project
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<existensil> which you'd have to do if you installed the gem by hand. not to mention dealing with C extensions by hand are a pain. rubygems doesn't totally solve that pain, but it helps and solves it if you have a sane build environment and the required libraries for the gems you're building
<existensil> no, into your system
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<existensil> gem install gem_name makes it available to ALL your ruby apps
<existensil> unless you are using something to isolate gems, like rvm with gemsets, but i'm sure you're not
<JBlazeCoder21> oh, so when you say my system my computer
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<existensil> rubygems is like the app store for ruby libraries
<JBlazeCoder21> oh ok
<existensil> except everything is free
<existensil> so its installed for ruby, and anything you write in ruby can use that library
<JBlazeCoder21> it sounds like an alacart for building API
<JBlazeCoder21> *an
<existensil> yeah, that's pretty accurate
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<JBlazeCoder21> so its available to all your apps, you don't actually use it
<JBlazeCoder21> unless you chose too, correct
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<existensil> also, there are dependencies, so if one gem depends on a few others, rubygems takes care of that for yoyu
<JBlazeCoder21> if I have 200 gems
<JBlazeCoder21> I might not need them on each project I build
<JBlazeCoder21> right
<existensil> if you have 200 gems, then 200 gems are in your load path, but aren't actually loaded into memory unless you `require` them
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<existensil> you can even have multiple versions of a gem installed, if different projects need different versions. Bundler takes care of making sure your app only sees the right gems
<existensil> that's what Gemfile's are for. they are the list of gems (and their versions) for a specific project
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<JBlazeCoder21> Cool, stuff
<JBlazeCoder21> It like word press on steroids
<pontiki> hey
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<JBlazeCoder21> lol
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<existensil> gem's can also be whole programs. try `gem install earthquake` for a great little (if buggy) command line twitter client
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<JBlazeCoder21> I was told that bundler is used to either create or bundle the gem
<JBlazeCoder21> file
<existensil> `gem install gist` is another favorite of mine. so i can do `gist file_name.txt` on the command line and it makes a gist for me. i can also pipe STDOUT to it
<JBlazeCoder21> how much experience do you have with ruby existensil?
<existensil> JBlazeCoder21: creating gems is just one, minor, function of bundler. it's primary function is managing the gems for a project
<pontiki> i believe that is the first time i've read ruby's gem system, and bundler in particular, compared to wordpress...
<existensil> I'm a full time ruby developer of almost 3 years
<existensil> been a developer for longer, but that's how long with ruby specifically
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<JBlazeCoder21> pontiki they are different, yet I feel they have certain traits that remind me of the other
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<pontiki> no, i get it, JBlazeCoder21
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<Lewix> what do you guys think of DDD
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<existensil> death driven development?
<rjhunter> Lewix: Which DDD? the debugger? the design approach? another one?
<existensil> it sounds motivating
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<existensil> ah, debugger driven? that makes a little more sense. that sounds like repackaging of something many of us have been doing for many years
<existensil> even if we call it something else
<existensil> i use binding.pry a ton, both in my tests and in my code
<rjhunter> If you're talking about Eric Evans' "Domain Driven Design", then it's terribly misunderstood -- everyone thinks it just means building repositories for data access
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<jacobsmith> i love pry (:
<Lewix> rjhunter: sorry. I meant the design approach domain driven design
<Lewix> rjhunter: Is it worth it?
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<rjhunter> Lewix: I think it's a valuable way to think about the architecture of large software ecosystems. But it's hard to understand the trade-offs if you're not familiar with the architecture of large software ecosystems and what tends to happen by default
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<Lewix> rjhunter: ok so off my reading list.
<rjhunter> Lewix: come back to it in a few years -- it's really good if you're at that level, but mind-numbing if you're not
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<Lewix> rjhunter: thanks for your feedback
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<perl_or_ruby> hi
<rjhunter> perl_or_ruby: your nickname is already a leading question :-)
<rjhunter> remember that you'll get biased answers in here
<Lewix> s/feedback/advice
<Lewix> perl_or_ruby: perl
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<perl_or_ruby> Lewix, Support your choice by facts
<havenwood> perl_or_ruby: perl is true, so `perl or ruby` returns `perl`
<havenwood> perl_or_ruby: ruby_or_perl would be ruby
<Lewix> perl_or_ruby: what havenwood said
<perl_or_ruby> is ruby false then?
<havenwood> perl_or_ruby: everything but false and nil is true
<perl_or_ruby> Oh
<rjhunter> perl_or_ruby: it doesn't matter, it doesn't get evaluated
<havenwood> perl_or_ruby: truthy**
<perl_or_ruby> ok
<rjhunter> >> :perl or :ruby
<eval-in_> rjhunter => :perl (https://eval.in/76932)
<havenwood> ^
<rjhunter> see?
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<easy_framework> ok
<Lewix> >> :perl && :ruby
<eval-in_> Lewix => :ruby (https://eval.in/76933)
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<easy_framework> perl/ruby/python all have frameworks but the easiest is what you choose or could get it to work
<existensil> my least favorite thing about ruby is the inability to make custom falsey objects
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<lagweezle> falsey is an evil, evil word.
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<rjhunter> lagweezle: an evil concept with an appropriate word? or a reasonable concept with a terrible word?
<lagweezle> Hmm.
<lagweezle> That is a very good question.
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<lagweezle> I may be mistaken, but I dislike the concept.
<lagweezle> At least, my understanding of it. Something is true, or it is false. I don't really see a middle ground, excepting undefined.
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<existensil> if there are already two different objects that evaluate false, i think it'd be nice if i could define a third or a fourth, etc
<easy_framework> Guys I always under y don't we have a programming lang yet where you could just run the program the same way in on the pc or on a server .. i mean there should be no difference.. If it asks for an input on pc .. it shud ask for it on the server too
<existensil> whether or not non-booleans should be used in conditinals is kind of a side issue. seems like doing won, so i'd like to be able to make more falsies.
<lagweezle> Er, in what case does htis not happen, easy_framework ?
<Lewix> existensil: what do you mean by custom falsey objects
<easy_framework> lagweezle, if I make program which ask for an input on my pc when i run it .. it doesn't have a input bx on the server
<existensil> Lewix: I'd like be able to do like class NullObject; def to_bool; false; end; end
<easy_framework> I have to create one using a form if i use cgi
<existensil> or something like that
<lagweezle> easy_framework: OH! You refer to GUIs?
<rjhunter> easy_framework: you're still going on about CGI
<existensil> then i could implement a possibly more ideal null object pattern in ruby
<existensil> does any language let you create your own false-y types?
<rjhunter> existensil: yeah, lots
<existensil> like?
<easy_framework> no lagweezle like if I make a program that adds two num on pc .. it ask for two numbers on my pc i input them n then the result but when i put it on the server .. it has no input box it won't take my input ..
<lagweezle> easy_framework: "input box" = a graphical element? Or a web page thing? Or ... a command line ASCII box thing?
<existensil> i'm curious to see how custom false-y types work in other languages
<existensil> i don't remember anything like that in Python (though i never went super far down that rabbit hole), and PHP didn't have anything
<easy_framework> lagweezle, you are not able to get me .. We make a simple program and then run it on pc .. which add two num .. when i do ruby program.rb it runs .. but on server .. it don't have a input box by itself
<rjhunter> existensil: smalltalk for sure, haskell, ioke, self i think, java in its own weird way
<existensil> hmm. what does that look like in java?
<easy_framework> Is Smalltalk/lisp/scheme yet in vogue ?
<rjhunter> easy_framework: they're all older than ruby
<easy_framework> ok
<easy_framework> rjhunter, are you not able to get me ? We make a simple program and then run it on pc .. which add two num .. when i do ruby program.rb it runs .. but on server .. it don't have a input box by itself
<lagweezle> Is easy_framework a troll? <.<
<existensil> clearly you are correct easy_framework. we are not able to get you.
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<existensil> especially since you have not answered additional followup questions that have been asked or provided any details at all surrounding what your code looks like, what steps you have taken to run it locally, and what steps you have taken to run it on your server.
<easy_framework> existensil, if i make program for example in c++ or ruby that add two digits .. when i run it on a server .. like host it on a server using cgi or something .. it don't take the input like it does in cli
<easy_framework> It says Enter you first number: on the server but can't input anythign
<rjhunter> easy_framework: if you thought hard about what you mean by "input box by itself" -- *really* hard, you'll realise the problem is either impractical or trivial
<existensil> easy_framework: right, CGI != CLI.
<easy_framework> are you able to get me now ?
<lagweezle> What rjhunter and existensil said, easy_framework ...
<existensil> its going to your browser. you need to build a HTML form youself and deal with the values submitted with the form is sent back to your server
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<easy_framework> ya right .. that thing .. but i want to avoid it .. can't it be done?
<existensil> you should really get that working locally first. getting something working on the CLI is useless when building something that works in the browser
<existensil> you could ssh into the server and run the CLI there on your ssh session
<easy_framework> locally it works
<existensil> does it work locally THROUGH THE BROWSER?!
<existensil> no
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<easy_framework> ya right it doesn't
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<h0rrorvacui> I think he is trolling.
<existensil> yeah, probably
<easy_framework> i want what is the most modern way to dev an app which adds two digits or a program which does similar things
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<existensil> the browser is not a command line interface. you built your program to listen to inputs from a command line interface. why do you not see the problem?
<h0rrorvacui> but you want to do that on a server?
<rjhunter> probably, but I like to think that he's trying hard and just not very good at listening
<existensil> easy_framework: i highly recommend you check out sinatra or rails if you want to interface with your ruby apps through a browser
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<existensil> you can go lower level than that, but CGI is mostly dead
<existensil> and rack apps are not a great place to start
<existensil> if you want super simple, go sinatra
<easy_framework> guys i want to make numberical calc based apps on web also on pc .. both ..
<lagweezle> rjhunter: My wife does that. It drives me nuts. Not lsitening well, that is.
<rjhunter> sure
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<easy_framework> existensil, what is lower level than that ?
<existensil> easy_framework: http://www.sinatrarb.com/intro.html
<easy_framework> ok
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<h0rrorvacui> that still won't be doing what he is asking :P
<existensil> if you can't get that working, you shouldn't be concerned with what is lower level
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<existensil> everything "lower" than that is more complex, not less
<h0rrorvacui> lower than sinatra is rack
<h0rrorvacui> lol
<easy_framework> existensil, ok
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<existensil> right. rack apps are pretty simple for someone who understands the stack, but its not a place for beginners
<h0rrorvacui> rack is so simple though
<easy_framework> WOuld this Sinatra create the forms by itself ?? or it is a complete web app where you don't need such forms anymore?
<h0rrorvacui> no it wouldn't
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<existensil> easy_framework: no. sinatra makes it easy for your app to respond with HTML
<existensil> and it makes it easy to deal with the form data once its submitted back to you
<easy_framework> ok..
<existensil> but you still have to write the HTML
<easy_framework> So if I want to host a program online i would need a lang + framework + html + aything else ?
<existensil> well, you'd need a web server
<easy_framework> ya
<easy_framework> client side programming needed ?
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<existensil> not for an HTML form, no
<h0rrorvacui> easy_framework what EXACTLY are you doing? Maybe that would help.
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<h0rrorvacui> Describe the problem you are trying to solve.
<easy_framework> h0rrorvacui, I told you i want to host complex calculation based programs online .. on my own server so that people can use it even on their mobile devices
<lagweezle> Confusing us. ;)
<h0rrorvacui> Ohh you are the same guy from yesterday
<easy_framework> ya
<existensil> so its a calculator. it sounds like first you just want it to add two numbers?
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<easy_framework> existensil, I said so .. because i wanted to see how simple it is to do this simple task on a server
<easy_framework> rest i would have to learn i know
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<existensil> sure. well, i think we can help you get that far. you just want a simple HTML form with two inputs. when the form is submitted, your server app should add the two numbers and return the result
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<h0rrorvacui> https://www.wolframalpha.com/ problem solved.
<existensil> LOL
<easy_framework> existensil, ya but i wanted to ask .. what is the most modern way to dev such calc based apps ?
<easy_framework> I did that in CGI but it requires a lot of time .. and my real apps would have about 14-15 set of calc as per the user's net and then the final result
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<rjhunter> easy_framework: you're asking a room of Ruby developers, so the answers will be biased based on the kind of applications we usually build.
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<easy_framework> it is ok .. doesn't matter .. i want to know a easy way to develop what i m going to do in CGI cuz it is getting more complex than I thought i would be
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<rjhunter> it'll help if you stop saying CGI
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<rjhunter> CGI is a low-level technology that you shouldn't be touching if you're not working deep down the stack
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<existensil> easy_framework: it doesn't sound like any of those calculations NEED to be done on the server, so I would say the most modern way would be to use javascript
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<easy_framework> javascript can do it all ??
<existensil> yeah, why not?
<easy_framework> ok wait
<existensil> you've got math and if you want to graph you've got canvas and all sorts of cool visual libraries
<h0rrorvacui> javascript is turing complete
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<h0rrorvacui> :P
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<h0rrorvacui> lets send him to the node guys :P
<h0rrorvacui> lol
<easy_framework> what to make something like this
* lagweezle snrks.
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<h0rrorvacui> easy_framework have you thought about google docs spreadsheets :P
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<existensil> easy_framework: if you really want to do the calcs in ruby, this is what you asked for: https://github.com/carlzulauf/simplecalc
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<existensil> wrote that while we were talking. it sends the user an HTML form with two inputs. if that form is submitted it then calcs the results and sends the user back both the form and the results
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<h0rrorvacui> that is where sinatra shines
<existensil> that would actually be most similar to the calculator you linked to
<existensil> obviously simpler
<existensil> though you could build something much faster and more responsive with javascript
<easy_framework> existensil, ok
<easy_framework> html + js = dont think about web programming ?
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<easy_framework> *html - js = dont think about web programming ?
<existensil> huh?
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<existensil> anyways, if you need help with getting that example sinatra app running so you can build on it, let me know
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<existensil> if you want to go the javascript route (recommended) there are probably better venues for help with that (#javascript)
<easy_framework> I am going to do it .. in ruby or perl .. I like these too
<rjhunter> easy_framework: if you want to start making Web applications, you'll need to learn at least a couple of Web technologies (HTML, forms, HTTP) but probably more (JavaScript, DOM, CSS)
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<easy_framework> ok
<existensil> easy_framework: if you want to go ruby i would suggest making sure you understand how that example app i made you works
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<existensil> that would be a good start
<existensil> then you can build on it
<existensil> there is only a few lines of code. most of them are actually HTML
<easy_framework> one last question, i won't bug you more, is HTML5 app an alt to js or ruby on rails etc?
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<h0rrorvacui> no
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<easy_framework> ok
<existensil> HTML5 is the latest HTML standard. an "HTML5 app" almost certainly refers to an app that makes use of HTML5+JS, and likely some server side stuff too
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<rjhunter> easy_framework: HTML is a presentation layer, alternative to a command line interface, or a desktop GUI, or a mobile touch-screen UI
<easy_framework> So web programming is HTML5 + Ruby on Rails if you choose ruby
<easy_framework> ok
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<easy_framework> I get it a bit
<easy_framework> Thanks
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<easy_framework> a zillion
<existensil> if you are building a calculator, you could do it all with HTML+JS (and probably should for the calculator bits)... but if you want to do something like save those calculators in a user profile... the user profile and saved calculations and all that logic and data would live on the server
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<easy_framework> you all are far too kind
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<existensil> maybe that server would be in ruby or perl or js, maybe the data is in mysql or redis or flat files. all depends on what your needs are, what you're comfortable with, etc.
<easy_framework> i would make something like this + a few more options to it
<h0rrorvacui> sounds like to me you could just static host the website and just learn js and html
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<existensil> right. that's similar to the example i provided easy_framework. you should understand that app completely and then build on it to add all the calculations you need.
<existensil> or find the right resources to do that in javascript
<existensil> either one
<easy_framework> Sinatrea is a mini framework unlike Rails which is for bigger apps?
<existensil> right
<easy_framework> ok
<easy_framework> I will have to install sinatra first ..
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<easy_framework> bye for now ..
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<existensil> if the amount of logic and "stuff" you need to do on the server is small, sinatra makes sense. if the server side of your app will be large, rails makes more sense.
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<existensil> easy_framework: should just be able to clone that repository, go to its directory, do "bundle install" and then do "ruby app.rb"
<h0rrorvacui> I really think he should just do a html + js page.
<existensil> and then you should see sinatra "taking the stage" and it will tell you where to point your browser... and viola, the app is running on your machine through your browser
<existensil> h0rrorvacui: yes, probably, and I told him so... but this is #ruby and i'll keep explaining how that works as long as he wants :-)
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<existensil> well, or until i've smoked too much
<rjhunter> i think he'd be better off not building an app, instead finding a domain-specific tool that fits "publishing excel calculations on the web" -- i just don't know the names of any of those
<rjhunter> and this is #ruby
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<h0rrorvacui> I think google docs is a great solution
<h0rrorvacui> :P
<rjhunter> it probably is, you know
<existensil> there was that spreadsheet in 30 lines of js thing going around on HN recently
<existensil> that could work :-)
<easy_framework> Google docs is ok .. but the problem is not all phones have it .. I can use a CGI app on my symbian phone too.. hence I think sinatra app with ruby would be fun and universal
<rjhunter> please stop saying CGI
<h0rrorvacui> I don't think you know what cgi is...
<rjhunter> it is not a relevant technology to your problem, and just confuses matters
<existensil> easy_framework: i think when you say CGI you really mean HTTP or HTML
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<easy_framework> For me CGI = I can run my py/rb/pl on a server
<existensil> easy_framework: you are correct. a ruby/sinatra app would be super portable since anything that can render HTML, even an ancient flip phone, can fill out an HTML form and submit it just fine
<easy_framework> I don't know much
<existensil> though JS is nearly as portable now since smartphones with decent browsers have all but taken over
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<easy_framework> but JS = issues on most low powered machines if JS is too much for a system
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<existensil> for a calculator that would never be an issue
<easy_framework> ya
<easy_framework> :]
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<easy_framework> But i would be using more complex things in future if i get to learn it
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<easy_framework> I ve made program in high school with c++ .. similar one which even used local fonts in it and colors etc which was new here :p
<existensil> i fully support trying ruby to solve this, even if it is possibly not the best tool for the job. its possibly the second best (to JS) though :-)
<easy_framework> kk
<existensil> well, depends on how complex the calcs are i guess. python has better scientific libraries
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<easy_framework> I know the formulas
<easy_framework> I would make a neat app
<h0rrorvacui> I'm pretty sure he is a troll.
<existensil> yeah, but even so, the problem is mostly solved now :-)
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* easy_framework L e g i o n
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<h0rrorvacui> That's what you think. He was on here all night last night with no avail.
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<rjhunter> ... and a different nick
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<h0rrorvacui> whats the legion thing about?
<rjhunter> makes me think of anonymous
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<easy_framework> H e h e
<existensil> i don't get it. were you trolling? i never think people are trolling until they get mean
<gnu_is_bad> easy_framework: I want a framework to get started .. is easy a framework too ?
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<existensil> lol
<easy_framework> gnu_is_bad, Oh no. what lang do you use?
* easy_framework X p e c t U S ! !
<gnu_is_bad> What is easy then?
* h0rrorvacui do I need to save a spot at the table then?
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<existensil> lesson learned
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* easy_framework Sinatra Installed up and running ..
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<h0rrorvacui> easy_framework is from Indonesia that much is true.
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<existensil> i'm not sure what conclusions can be drawn from that
<h0rrorvacui> easy_framework what jawa barat?
<h0rrorvacui> language barrier?
<h0rrorvacui> His english is not to bad though.
* easy_framework Who is the maker of bentobox.io? He has done a great job!
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<CoderCR> I am trying to find some fun work to do over the weekend. Any one need a ruby dev to help with any of their projects?
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<rjhunter> CoderCR: you might be interested in 24pullrequests.com
<Tectonic> Hey CoderCR, I'd love some help with Huginn: https://github.com/cantino/huginn
<Tectonic> Also I agree with rjhunter that 24pr is great.
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<CoderCR> rjhunter: very nice.. thanks mate
<existensil> that's cool rjhunter
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<existensil> err, i mean tectonic
<existensil> 24pullrequests.com is cool too of course
<Tectonic> thx :)
<existensil> but i like huginn
<Tectonic> Would love your help too, existensil ;)
<Tectonic> and thanks
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<rjhunter> tectonic: i hadn't seen huginn before -- looks like a very interesting project.
<CoderCR> tectonic: Explain huginn to me.. I am not fully understanding the reason for the project.
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<Tectonic> Sure thing.
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<MrLinuxSwigger> :)
<Tectonic> Huginn is a system for monitoring the world however you want.
<CoderCR> private me to not flood the channel
<Tectonic> Make Agents to tell you if it'll rain tomorrow, look for news that will interest you, consume RSS feeds, or whatever.
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<Tectonic> Honestly, it's cron with a good GUI and some tooling.
<Tectonic> and a network topology
<existensil> i might do that instead of what i was going to work on this weekend :-)
<rjhunter> "cron with a good GUI and some tooling" is still a pretty attractive sell
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<existensil> indeed
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<existensil> add in a ruby DSL and it sounds like a fun way to spend a few hours
<Tectonic> it's a strange hybrid of ITTT, Cron, and Siri
<Tectonic> IFTTT
<Tectonic> rather
<existensil> it already has voice recognition?
<Tectonic> haha, no
<existensil> hmm... i just wrote a gem a few weeks ago that integrates with a voice rec API
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<Tectonic> I have a branch where I'm playing with creating mechanical turk tasks from events and then creating events from their results
<Tectonic> which has been intriguing
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<Tectonic> It's open ended, but there are a small group of committers besides myself adding stuff to it.
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<Tectonic> And I know Huginn is being used internally in a couple of companies.
<Tectonic> To monitor competitors, check for advertising conditions, etc.
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<existensil> i'm going to try and use it for something first :-)
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<Tectonic> existensil awesome, please post an issue if you have any problems or questions!
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<shevy> dumdedum
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<MrLinuxSwigger> i pooped my self
<MrLinuxSwigger> :)
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<shevy> MrLinuxSwigger and did you also write ruby code
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<shevy> guys
<shevy> for red in 0 .. 1256
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<shevy> is effectively the same as:
<shevy> (0..1256).each {|red|
<shevy> right?
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<Hanmac> shevy: and nearly the same as 0.upto(1256) {|red|
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<cju-pp> I am using EC2 to host an Ubuntu server. After a few hours of running, the SSH crashes. If I stop and start the server it works again, I can't figure out why this is happening, anyone have any ideas what logs I should look through to start figuring it out? I have googled online for the past few hours already.
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<existensil> cju-pp: you might be in the wrong room for that. you might also want to checek out your logs in /var/log, like /var/log/auth.log and /var/log/sys.log ... assuming you have those
<existensil> cju-pp: #ubuntu
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<existensil> there might even be a special room for server
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<shevy> Hanmac hmmm
<shevy> I think I like #each more, I use it like all the time
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<cju-pp> existensil: yeah no one is answering, and I'm using a lot of ruby program so I thought I'd ask around here too
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<Hanmac> shevy what also works: for red in 0.upto(1256) ;P
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<dopie> hey all
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<Hanmac> apeiros: what do you think? imo case without expession should be forbidden because imo it "rape" the purpose of case
<dopie> can anyone help me?
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<Hanmac> dopie: what is your "array error"?
<dopie> /home/guspares/Projects/instagram/mechanize.rb:7:in `<main>': undefined method `click' for #<Array:0x000000028d0980> (NoMethodError)
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<kostine> either do .first or iterate through links_with array
<dopie> kostine, the 2nd option is best how would i do that???
<kostine> you can have many links returned?
<dopie> yes
<kostine> what do you want to do with each?
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<Hanmac> dopie: there is also a "link_with" you use "links_with" ... see the difference ;P
<dopie> yes
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<dopie> Hanmac, it works with 1 link
<dopie> but doesnt work when i call all the links
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<kostine> posts = page.links_with(:text => /buy now/)
<kostine> posts.each do |post|
<kostine> post.click
<kostine> ....
<kostine> end
<Hanmac> posts = page.links_with(:text => /buy now/).map(&:click)
<kostine> what does click return?
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<dopie> Hanmac, the way you put it goes through all of them and shows the last one
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<dopie> ahh sweet
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<apeiros> Hanmac: I agree that using it is not nice. but reason enough to forbid it?
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<Hanmac> hm its still some kind of violation ... maybe raising a waring with -w would be nice
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<dopie> sweet
<dopie> i think i got it
<apeiros> warnings are useless IMO
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<kostine> warning wet floor are
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<dopie> can i make that better
<dopie> or not really?
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<kostine> looks fine, easy to read
<kostine> you should probably break it into methods
<dopie> hmmmm???
<kostine> def process_post(post)
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<kostine> post.click
<kostine> agent.page.search("h1").each do |link|
<kostine> puts link.text
<kostine> end
<kostine> end
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<kostine> didn't paste right
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<kostine> make methods for post processing, h1 processing etc
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<kostine> small methods easy to test, easy to modify, easy to read etc
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<dopie> ok
<dopie> wow
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<dopie> it works perfectly...
<dopie> :)
<dopie> thnaks kostine , hanmac
<kostine> cool
<dopie> now a trickier question...
<dopie> currently it pulls the text with /buy now/
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<dopie> but there is a specific group of /buy now/ in a div i want to show
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<dopie> #homeFeaturedEvents
<dopie> how would i call it ?@!
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<dopie> so it only gets it from there
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<kostine> buy now is inside of the div called homeFeature... ?
<dopie> correct
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<kostine> maybe using .at method? I never used mechanize
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<kostine> like page.at('#homeFeaturedEvents')
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<dopie> got it
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<kostine> maybe like this ...
<kostine> page.search("#FeaturedEvents a").each { |a| page.link_with(text: a.text).click }
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<narekb> hey people, got a small question, are there DirectX bindings for Ruby?
<Hanmac> why should someone care about directX bindings when we have opengl stuff?
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<narekb> hmmm, makes sense
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<Hanmac> hm it may possible ... somewhere i have an Ogre binding but i didnt work on it long time ago ... and ogre itself has an DirectXRenderer ... so its possible to use directx -> ogre -> ruby ... but i didnt see a real directX binding before (as i said i dont know any reason why some one wants like that)
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<narekb> ok Hanmac i guess thatdoes make more sense
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<narekb> but is OpenGL usable with Ruby or the bindings are still in development?
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<dopie> hmmm
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<Hanmac> narekb: they are already in using ... but i have some easier bindings hat does the most part for you in development
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<dopie> kostine,
<dopie> i put it up on my gist
<dopie> can u edit the last file to see if it works
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<kostine> not sure i follow
<kostine> it doesn't work?
<dopie> well it works
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<dopie> but i cant find the solution to show only from div#homeFeaturedEvents
<kostine> ah i see
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<dopie> tried search
<dopie> tried .css
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<kostine> page.search("#homeFeaturedEvents .EventRecord .ButtonsArea a")
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<kostine> this should give you nokogiri object for each link
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<dopie> undefined method `click' for #<Nokogiri::XML::Element:0x000000040b9498>
<dopie> %$#:LK43
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<kostine> right
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<dopie> so what now?@!#
<dopie> ugh
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<kostine> page.search("#homeFeaturedEvents .EventRecord .ButtonsArea a").each do |a|
<kostine> puts a.attributes["href"].value
<kostine> end
<kostine> these should be the links
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<dopie> @posts = @page.search("#homeFeaturedEvents .EventRecord .ButtonsArea a").each do |a|
<dopie> puts a.attributes["href"].value
<dopie> end
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<kostine> page.search("#homeFeaturedEvents .EventRecord .ButtonsArea a").each do |a|
<kostine> puts page.link_with(:href => a.attributes["href"].value).click
<kostine> end
<kostine> this should click it
<kostine> and return a page
<kostine> gawd I hate pasting here
<dopie> kostine,
<dopie> use the gist
<dopie> its easier
<dopie> :)
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<kostine> added comment
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<dopie> kostine, nice photo
<dopie> :)
<kostine> hehe thanks
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<dopie> i have the same hat
<parshap> How can I make IO.popen("some command") block until the subprocess exits?
<kostine> rofl ... rabbit
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<parshap> (But still output stdout to the parent stdout)
<kostine> no idea pars hap :(
<dopie> dude Koshian
<dopie> kostine,
<dopie> you just 1 lined the code
<dopie> holwy shit
<kostine> is that the output you needed?
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<dopie> lemme check
<dopie> in rails
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<kostine> it just gives H1 tags, you can get text out of there or are you looking for links?
<dopie> no
<dopie> just h1 tags
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<parshap> found my answer: Kernel#system()!
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<dopie> kostine, your answer is so good
<dopie> im having a hard time making it work for rails
<dopie> haha
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<kostine> one sec
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<flatr0ze_> Ello. A very QQ: how do I make puts remove the previous line I just echoed to the terminal?
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<flatr0ze_> I've tried "\r" but it doesn't work... it's for a console logging app
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<kostine> no idea but maybe similar how this guy doing it https://github.com/jfelchner/ruby-progressbar
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<Leighton> flatr0ze_: are you on ubuntu? Not sure your use but maybe try $stdout.flush
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<Hanmac> flatr0ze_: how do you "echo" into termial?
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<kostine> $stdout.print "blargh"
<kostine> maybe
<flatr0ze_> thanks!
<kostine> def clear
<kostine> if output.tty?
<kostine> output.print clear_string
<kostine> output.print "\r"
<kostine> end
<kostine> end
<kostine> this is how he clears it
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<kostine> output = $stdout
<flatr0ze_> interesting... thank you very much!
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<kostine> np
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<shevy> what is an elegant way to
<shevy> define a method if it does not yet exist?
<kostine> when will it exist?
<Leighton> when it exists you can define it : )
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<shevy> kostine the class I have right now has a way to automatically define a bunch of methods based on input (a bunch of yaml files, i.e. yaml file 'bla.yml' creates a method called bla() on that class)
<kostine> i see
<shevy> right now I try to add a debug= method, but I get a warning that it was already defined in one sub-project
<kostine> and you don't know what they are going to be called?
<shevy> right now there is no limitation, no
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<shevy> when I have octal bits 0644
<shevy> irb gives me 420
<shevy> when I have '0644'
<shevy> how to make this 0644 ?
<shevy> >> "0644".to_i(8)
<eval-in_> shevy => 420 (https://eval.in/76978)
<shevy> k
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<shevy> man
<shevy> ruby documentation, after all those years, sucks still:
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<shevy> hey Dwarf
<Dwarf> ?
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<LadyRainicorn> What color are you?
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<shevy> I am grey
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<shevy> Dwarf is teal
<shevy> LadyRainicorn is light green
<shevy> Hanmac, look https://github.com/shoes/shoes4 shoes now depends on java ;-)
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<LadyRainicorn> I am Rainbow damnit!
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* Hanmac found another AdventureTime viewer ;P
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<shevy> omg
<LadyRainicorn> shevy: That made me cry.
<shevy> lol
<shevy> well
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<shevy> it's ok if they use java and jruby ... but I don't think they should use the name shoes still
<shevy> _why's shoes did not mandate java
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<Hanmac> for me shevy is purple, LadyRainicorn is light gray and i am some kind of blue
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<shevy> ponicorns are weird, they should be bright pink instead
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<shevy> does git development really work for small projects?
<apeiros> yes
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<apeiros> only thing for which it isn't well suited is projects with lots of binary data.
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<LadyRainicorn> Git versions binary data fairly well.
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<LadyRainicorn> I don't think it's really unsuited for that assuming you actually want to put that in a VCS.
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<pagios> system("export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/") ?
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<pagios> hi all, env is not being updated via this commadn can anyone advise/
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<Hanmac> pagios: did you try: ENV["LD_LIBRARY_PATH"]='/usr/local/lib/' ?
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<pagios> should i do it using ENV['EDITOR'] = 'gedit' ?
<pagios> or system command should work?
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<shevy> test
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<apeiros> shevy: what's up with your tests?
<apeiros> every other day you write 'test'…
<shevy> yeah
<shevy> my ISP is weird, sometimes I am not connected anymore but I idle out for a few minutes
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<Hanmac> shevy last days it happen that i lost internet connection more than 4 times in less than 30min ... :(
<shevy> hehe
<shevy> that's common if you get my ISP
<LadyRainicorn> ISPs suck :(
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<ayaz> That's partly why I now run irssi inside a tmux session on a remote box with a stable link.
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<shevy> I tried with irssi and weechat but I can't work with the ncurses apps, I always mispaste
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<shevy> I need a nice cute little input field... like on crappy mIRC... or xchat
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<shevy> the KDE IRC clients kinda suck
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<ayaz> Yeah, I suppose. irssi takes a while to get you to like it. Once you do, I think it's neat little thing.
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<k3asd`> hi
<k3asd`> why I'm not receiving the ML by asterisk-users aprox 18 November?
<k3asd`> there are a problems?
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<drugdiq> what are the good books for learning RoR ?
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<jinxD> drugdiq: agile development with rails ?
<drugdiq> What about other books ?
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<shevy> the books are on #rubyonrails
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<devians> what is the generally accepted way to hack on gems to extend them?
<shevy> active or inactive gems
<shevy> one problem on rubygems.org is that it is not easy to takeover inactive gems and their names
<IceDragon> use a solar storm!
<IceDragon> but then you'd lose most of the technology as well...
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<shevy> depends
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<shevy> cyborgs of the future will use solar energy without problem
<shevy> but IceDragons will melt :(
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<IceDragon> don't worry shevy; I already have a counter measure: Metamorphasis! I SHALL BECOME A SunDragon! :D
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<shevy> good
<shevy> that should suffice for several billion years
<shevy> until the sun is depleted of its energy :(
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<IceDragon> :P I'll find another star by then
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<IceDragon> O: That would make for a mean sci-fi novel
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<iidot> while installing rails on ruby2.0.0 twas funny that convertin errors for about 60 or so gifs and jpgs in the racktest documentation occurred https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0cc3c3080846618e5a05
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<shevy> iidot these are just warnings really
<iidot> yup.. no worries just fyi
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<IceDragon> :X why the hell would it try to document an Image?
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<shevy> dont ask me
<shevy> I don't use ri or rdoc
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<shevy> I actually find the default ways how to document ruby projects pretty awful
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<IceDragon> I don't think ruby was designed to be documented per say :x
<IceDragon> Its like: "You should be able to tell whats going on by just reading the code"
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<shevy> yeah
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<shevy> IceDragon do you have gems?
<IceDragon> released ? nope
<IceDragon> I have personal gems
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<IceDragon> Like a rather clunky 8085 Interpreter written in ruby
<IceDragon> and circuit simulation (or Component based thing ma bob, even I have no idea what it is)
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<shevy> yeah, released gems
<IceDragon> ヽ( ´¬`)ノ
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<royalty> does anyone know if there are any freenode channels dedicated to encryption?
<royalty> I tried searching through the channel list but I can't find any
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<w|t> ##crypto royalty ?
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<royalty> w|t: thank you very much
<w|t> no problem
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<devians> hey, can someone give me a hand with bundler?
<devians> i'm pulling a gem from a repository in my gemfile
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<devians> but something is up, and the app is crashing looking for files in the wrong place
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<TheDick> devians: Can you create a gist with the stack trace?
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<devians> TheDick just updated that gist with my gemfile.lock
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<shevy> wow
<shevy> we got a dick here
<devians> shevy?
<shevy> TheDick <---
<TheDick> yep
<shevy> :D
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<TheDick> devians: this is happening when you run bundle install?
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<devians> no, bundle install works, that error is when passenger runs the software
<TheDick> So this file exists? /var/www/gollum/vendor/bundle/ruby/2.0.0/gems/gollum-2.5.2/lib/gollum/templates/searchbar.mustache
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<TheDick> I don't think this is a bundler issue ... More like something missing from your gem ... ex: the path/to/file above.
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<devians> well, the gem is not in that path
<devians> because its pulled via git
<devians> see the gemfile.lock
<devians> the gem is in bundler/gems/gollum-somehash rather than gems/gollum-2.5.2
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<TheDick> You should still have a local gem for the app to work from ... Pulling from git just installs it to your local machine ... So, when the app goes to reference that particular template, it doesn't find it. At least, that's what I believe is happening.
<devians> yeah, i get that. what I dont get is why the app is not looking where it actually exists?
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<devians> TheDick see https://gist.github.com/jhogendorn/7845760, the 2nd and 3rd files
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<TheDick> I would look into the gem code ... Looks like sinatra isn't having an issue finding the other parts of that gem ... See lines below last error. Maybe the gem is referencing the template path incorrectly.
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<devians> sorry, starting to get a little frustrated here, as I think I'm being quite clear on the bug but you dont seem to be grokking it?
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<devians> however ruby works with paths, i have no idea. i dont understand it, especially with bundler magic
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<devians> but when I forked this gem to modify it, and then pointed bundler at my git repo of said gem, it broke
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<devians> as far as i can see, its broken because it puts 'git' gems in a different place to 'normal' gems, and its looking for the parts of this gem in the 'normal' gems place.
<elux> what is Rack::Lock for..? i noticed this shows on rake middleware on a rails 4 app.. it feels like a big mutex but I thought rails 4 is threadsafe by default?
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<TheDick> devians: Not sure why it's doing that ... I've never dealt with an app placing gems in the wrong folder.
<devians> ... but its not doing that
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<devians> its clearly placing the gem in the correct folder, but theres some kind of pathing bug
<MrZYX> elux: that's more a #rubyonrails question ;)
<devians> ruby does my head in man, so much more complicated than php :/
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<MrZYX> php is confusing :/
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<devians> it's probably an experience thing, but php feels 10000 times more easy to extend and monkey patch things.
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<shevy> with #scan I can find matches in a string, substrings
<shevy> >> "abcabcdefghij".scan(/abc/)
<eval-in_> shevy => ["abc", "abc"] (https://eval.in/77032)
<shevy> but what if I want to get all the indexes of these matches?
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<devians> wtf bundler.
<MrZYX> shevy: hmm, what you need that for?
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<shevy> MrZYX I need to identify all target restriction sites of a long nucleotide sequence
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<devians> I'm going to hit the sack. If anyone has any brilliant insights, please let me know http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20444627/bundler-gem-installed-via-git-not-loading-paths-correctly-in-rack-app
<MrZYX> shevy: hm, can't really come up with anything elegant, so I guess you have to do something like offset = 0; matches << (offset = sequence.index(/abc/, offset+1) while offset
<shevy> whoa
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<shevy> that works? the "while offset" part?
<MrZYX> well, Fixnums are truthy, index returns nil when there's no match
<shevy> I've never seen while used that way before
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<MrZYX> do until offset.nil? if that's too scary for you
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<shevy> hmm
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<shevy> alright
<shevy> I think I am slowly hitting the end of bluefish 1 :(
<shevy> it loads a 11.000 lines file of size 1.1 MB too slowly
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<LiohAu> what does this error : "undefined method `+@' for "Passed":String (NoMethodError) ./features/support/hooks.rb:116:in `AfterStep'" mean ?
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<LiohAu> the line 116 just contains an "end", so i guess that it is the previous line that has a problem, but it is a simple assignment : " state = 'Passed' "
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<canton7> LiohAu, normally when there's an error on a line with just an 'end' on it, it means you're missing an 'end' somewhere earlier in the program
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<LiohAu> canton7: http://pastebin.com/ZhcDdKi8 do you see something weird?
<LiohAu> and "end" missing somewhere?
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<Hanmac> LiohAu: why do you this "@step_index++" ?
<LiohAu> incrementing the step_index var ?
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<canton7> yeah, that's not valid ruby
<LiohAu> omg
<Hanmac> who told you you can do it like that in ruby?
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<LiohAu> my experience of the other languages :D
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<canton7> in ruby, numbers are immutable. so ++ is out
<Hanmac> just do simply +=1
<LiohAu> ok good to know :)
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<LiohAu> immutable variable, what a paradoxal concept :D
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<MrZYX> immutable variables are common in functional languages, however here the object, not the variable, is immutable
<canton7> it makes a lot of sense when you start throwing anonymous functions around the place
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<canton7> and yeah, you can do 'x = x + 1' (which is the same as 'x += 1'), and 'x' gets a new object_id. so if you do 'y = x; x += 1', y won't change
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<MrZYX> LiohAu: in Ruby even constants are mutable ;)
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<tirengarfio_> Im getting this error while trying to compile with compass: http://pastebin.com/fxzpKY16 any idea?
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<tirengarfio_> Im working with symfony2, a php framework, and I just get that error for the production environment, I dont have any problem for the development environment
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<shevy> tirengarfio_ apparently whatever you are trying to use is trying to use tempfile
<shevy> and the path does not seem to exist, which is unusual
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<tirengarfio_> I solved it giving www-data:www-data to /tmp inside
<tirengarfio_> Now i get another error: http://pastebin.com/xGAmJfvq
<shevy> your gem can not find the .gem archive compass
<shevy> it tells you that you have 6 gems installed
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<brain_shim> i want to convert a file that has a bunch of char codes into human-readable strings
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<brain_shim> char codes look like \155
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<brain_shim> i have the whole file loaded as a string
<shevy> what is \155
<shevy> >> puts "\155"
<eval-in_> shevy => m ... (https://eval.in/77049)
<LadyRainicorn> codes.gsub(/\\([0-8]+)/){$1.to_i(8).chr}
<shevy> >> puts 'htt\160://www.JSON.o\162\147'
<eval-in_> shevy => htt\160://www.JSON.o\162\147 ... (https://eval.in/77050)
<brain_shim> i basically just want to de-obfuscate this file so I can find out where it's saving my bookmarks
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<shevy> >> puts 'htt\160://www.JSON.o\162\147'.gsub(/\\([0-8]+)/){$1.to_i(8).chr}
<shevy> cool
<shevy> LadyPonicorn solved it for ya
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<brain_shim> LadyRainicorn: Thanks!
<LadyRainicorn> yw
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<valesk> I'm writing a really simple 50/30/20 budgeting dealy that basically just gives me the exact amount of money I need to allocate each month/week. I've written everything out and it's working.. however I need to figure out a way to convert the decimals (3500.234234) to currency. Any suggestions?
<MrZYX> store in cents, only convert for display
<brain_shim> LadyRainicorn: had to change just one thing to make sure it only capture groups of tree integers my_file.gsub(/\\(\d..)/){$1.to_i(8).chr}
<brain_shim> LadyRainicorn: :D
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<valesk> MrZYX: can you give me an example? I'm a newjack
<valesk> :P
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<ddd> welcome to Newjack City!
<ddd> hehe (loved that movie)
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<valesk> lolol
<LadyRainicorn> Is that like a halfjack?
<MrZYX> >> money = 300000; weeks = 4; "Per week: %.2f" % ((money/weeks)/100)
<eval-in_> MrZYX => "Per week: 750.00" (https://eval.in/77052)
<MrZYX> valesk: ^
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<valesk> Bam
<valesk> Thanks
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<havenwood> valesk: Or an example with the money gem, `money = Money.new(1000, 'USD'); money.cents #=> 1000`: https://github.com/RubyMoney/money#readme
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<valesk> Schweeet I'll check that out
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<MrZYX> you may want to use .fdiv instead of /
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<havenwood> valesk: Money uses BigDecimal internally, which you want to do with money instead of floats always.
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<havenwood> i guess a better example than `money#cents` is `money.format #=> "$10.00"`
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<platzhirsch> Anyone has some nice talks/presentations to listen to?
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<platzhirsch> guess I dive a bit into railsconf 2013
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<havenwood> platzhirsch: have you wanted REPL driven development?: http://www.confreaks.com/videos/2864-rubyconf2013-repl-driven-development-with-pry
<LiohAu> how can i convert the content of a file to a string like this : [84,101, ...] where 84 and 101 are the byte values ?
<platzhirsch> cool! thanks
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<shevy> LiohAu what is the encoding or character conversion table?
<LiohAu> the file is a picture
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<LiohAu> so i don't think that it uses ascii or something like that :D
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<MrZYX> LiohAu: check #unpack
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<havenwood> LiohAu: depends how large your images are, maybe try just reading it all into memory then converting to bytes?: File.read('example.jpg').bytes
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<LiohAu> nevermind, I have to send them to a web service, i'll just send them as base64 as I originally planned, and decode the base64 string in the backend
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<PPH> Hey guys, If I want to create a class using net/http to do request on an api, this class should inherit from it or require it?
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<Jamo> porbably require
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<Jamo> it really depends how you want to do it (and is that spesific designed to be included)
<Jamo> like with httparty - you can either include it or reguire it
<PPH> Jamo, and do I require it inside the class or outside?
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<MrZYX> there's no difference, so do it outside
<PPH> that's a noob question I know but I don't know... lol
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<PPH> aight thx
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<valesk> I have a feeling I can simplify this.. https://gist.github.com/taylorqj/7849930
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<kostine> you can make this into a method
<kostine> sprintf('%.2f',(monthly_income * needs))
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<kostine> def calc_amount(income, expense)sprintf('%.2f',(monthly_income * needs))
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<kostine> durb ... i hate colloquy
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<kostine> def calc_amount(income, expense); sprintf('%.2f',(income * expense)) end
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<valesk> hmm! awesome thank ya.. gonna apply that one.
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<kiwi_89780> rooby
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<valesk> Now that's as simple as it gets?
<MrZYX> why do you indent some lines?
<MrZYX> also most people indent ruby with 2 spaces
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<valesk> formatting for myself.. I lke tabs. :[
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<MrZYX> also you don't need like 50% of the parens
<havenwood> 2-space soft tabs ftw
<kostine> no you can get rid of all other lines and just have one block, you can pass array of values into it, including titles
<valesk> sweet, more exercises!
<valesk> figured i could just run things into it.
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<kostine> 50, 30, 20 lines for the most part are idetical
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<kostine> identical, so you can put those into a method, then just call it for each "period"
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<agent_white> Is it possible to find a method's arguments using IRB?
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<MrZYX> you mean like method(:method_name).parameters ?
<MrZYX> I'd suggest you get pry + pry-doc
<agent_white> MrZYX: Yep, and thank you! I'll check it out!
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<waxjar> don't tell me what to do! :p
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<shevy> :D
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<shevy> I indent with 0 spaces
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<waxjar> but with how many tabs?
<MrZYX> 42!
<platzhirsch> If you use tabs then you are doing it wrong
<waxjar> haha, of course
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<platzhirsch> I told them in #node.js not to send their mercenaries down here
<platzhirsch> now there is a discussion about speed of Ruby vs. Node.js
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<waxjar> aww, adorable
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<platzhirsch> so, that shouldn't happen again
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<benzrf> hello
<benzrf> what is the semantic difference between 'foo' and 'self.foo'?
<benzrf> *besides the possibility of foo being a local
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<MrZYX> with self.foo foo can't be a private method
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<kasperg> Any idea why this doesn't work and writes an empty file?
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<kasperg> file = File.open("berlingske.jpg")
<kasperg> File.open("new_file_7.jpg", "w") {|f| f.write(file.read) }
<MrZYX> file might be empty or already read
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