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<andbutsothen> sup
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<shevy> if len(last)==2:alg.append(last)
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<shevy> I cant help but
<shevy> python is not visually that beautiful sometimes :\
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<zets> shevy: that's why I like ruby so much x.x I never knew a programming language could be so pretty until I found it
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<brisbin> sometimes i kinda wish we had some of that python "there's exactly one way to do anything" mentality though
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<brisbin> english is ambiguous and ambiguity is the bane of a program's existence
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<substrate> Could anyone offer an explanation for why this is happening: https://gist.github.com/nicklink483/6331282
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<brisbin> substrate: this is where lack of parens can confuse you
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<brisbin> x = (*args).join => x = [...].join => x = String; puts *(args.join) => puts *(String) => puts [...] => Array
<shevy> substrate the intent of your code is not clear. for instance, you use * three times. Are you absolutely sure that this is what you wanted?
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<shevy> %w( a b c ).join will yield a string
<substrate> I don't understand why line 4 is returning an Array and not a String like line 3 does.
<substrate> but Im still reading brisbin's explanation
<brisbin> substrate: the bottom line is precedence. in one case * is acting before join, in the other after.
<brisbin> if you start adding parens for where you /think/ the precedence is, you should see what's going on
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<substrate> I /think/ the precedence is such that line 4 is the same as puts (*names.join).class but that gives me a syntax error
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<shevy> how about (*names).join ?
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<substrate> syntax error, unexpected tSTAR
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<substrate> for (*names).join
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<substrate> every time I try and put parens anywhere it freaks out with various errors
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<shevy> hmm
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<shevy> to be honest
<shevy> I never see *foo inside a method
<shevy> what is the intent of the * ?
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<substrate> I'm trying to follow along in the Ruby Monk tutorials: http://rubymonk.com/learning/books/1-ruby-primer/chapters/19-ruby-methods/lessons/69-new-lesson
<substrate> I'm trying to do the part just under the line "As always, your objective is to make all the tests pass."
<shevy> ok but
<shevy> I see them use * only in a method definition or?
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<shevy> def add(*numbers)
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<substrate> ok so this was me not understanding the splat operator
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<brisbin> substrate: in x = *args.join x is an Array because of _ = *_ semantics. however, *args.join.class itself is (*args).join.class which is obviously string.
<shevy> splat is strange
<shevy> a = "2" # => "2"; b = *a # => ["2"]
<shevy> didn't we used to have .to_a ?
<shevy> but b = a.to_a fails
<shevy> ah yes...
<shevy> "abc".each_char.to_a # => ["a", "b", "c"]
<shevy> I liked the old way more though :(
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<substrate> "x is an Array because of _ = *_ semantics." so syntactic sugar got the best of me this time?
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<substrate> I figured *args.join gave me a String
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<substrate> (since *args.join.class told me it was)
<brisbin> substrate: i still think it's precedence
<brisbin> *(names.join) vs (*names).join
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<brisbin> = is what changes the precedence though
<substrate> (*names).join gives me a syntax error
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<brisbin> so maybe it's syntax around = that makes (*names) behavior possible, even though it can't be typed directly
<substrate> I see
<brisbin> i dunno
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<brisbin> ambiguity. makes shit hard
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<substrate> well either way, shevy's right that the splat shouldn't have shown up /inside/ the method. I changed each of my *names to names and it works now
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<brisbin> yes, he's right. i assumed you were just showing a quirk, not that that was actual production code :)
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<brisbin> they're right* have to stop assuming
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<shevy> hehe yeah
<shevy> I tried (*names).join as well and got a syntax error
<shevy> then I also noticed that I really can't think of the use of * being very common inside of a method hmm
<shevy> not even a = *b
<shevy> actually, that reads almost like C!
<brisbin> yeah, not on the rhs
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<brisbin> i've done x, *xs = some_array
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<apeiros> >> a = 1,2,3; b = 4,5,6; x = *a,*b; x
<eval-in> apeiros => [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6] (https://eval.in/44898)
<apeiros> or simpler:
<apeiros> >> a = 2,3,4; x = 1,*a,5; x
<eval-in> apeiros => [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] (https://eval.in/44899)
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<brisbin> neat, but i don't think it'd get through CR
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<apeiros> CR?
<brisbin> code review
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<apeiros> o0
<brisbin> there's got to be a clearer way to do whatever it is that results in doing that
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<apeiros> that's pretty clear IMO.
<apeiros> anyway, it was a demonstration of splat on RHS of =
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<brisbin> yeah, i'm being difficult. sorry
<brisbin> i'll be sure to ping you if i ever use * on the rhs IRL though
<apeiros> I consider method calls assignments on the methods arguments. it works precisely that way (except for defaults and the new named arguments in 2.0)
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<apeiros> i.e., if you have `def foo(a,b,*c) …` and `foo(x, *y)` it's the same as `a,b,*c = x,*y`
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<brisbin> i just can't think of a scenario where i'd want a splat in the method definition but then, when i'm calling that method, i'm splattin things differently
<brisbin> if that were the case, i'd want to change the method signature to reflect the common callers
<brisbin> ya know?
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<brisbin> your explanation of it as assignment is insightful though, don't get me wrong
<apeiros> if you could always adjust that way, you'd better not use splat at all and pass arrays instead. ya know?
<apeiros> less work for ruby
<brisbin> hmm
<brisbin> i'm going to look for scenarios where i can pass a, *b to a method that takes a, b, *c
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<apeiros> I don't see a point to go out and look for those. but sure, it's your time :-)
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<apeiros> I give you one: sprintf
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<brisbin> i just mean, i'd never think to do it
<apeiros> at least that's one where I often use that pattern
<brisbin> so being aware of it as a valid thing might shorten up something somewhere someday
<brisbin> and how would i know the pattern without looking for it? ;)
<apeiros> on, and method_missing too
<apeiros> since I almost always define it as method_missing(name, *args)
<brisbin> oh, i've stopped doing that, if I know i'm just going to send(name, *args) eventually
<brisbin> i've turned it to method_missing(*args) ... send(*args) most places
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<apeiros> that sounds like abuse of method_missing :-p
<apeiros> almost all scenarios I'm aware of need checking of name. otherwise you wrote yourself a delegator.
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<brisbin> i guess that's true. it's been quite some time since i haven't gone to SimpleDelegator for this kind of stuff
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<brisbin> i actually don't think we've overriden method_missing anywhere in my current project, quite the accomplishment!
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<zendeavor> quick, go meta on it
<zendeavor> can't trust you until you do
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<brisbin> oh hai zendeavor
<brisbin> btw i started using cram for shell script testing. highly recommend
<fourq> brisbin: I just used your irssi config, I know because i had to replace your nick all over my config ;)
<brisbin> fourq: that's funny, i recently switched to weechat
<brisbin> glad you found my config though, hope it suits you
<fourq> yeah it does, thanks
<fourq> why the switch though?
<zendeavor> brisbin: welp, time to switch to erc then
<brisbin> fourq: nothing bad about irssi, i just tried weechat on a whim and there are a couple really nice features you can't get in irssi
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<brisbin> the buffer list, the nick list, the completion is better, changing buffers by name, smart filters, there's a lot actually
<brisbin> besides the fact irssi hasn't been developed in what, years?
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<fourq> yeah, I mostly run off scripts buddys make, or that I kow have been around forever.
<fourq> Maybe I'll check out weechat too
<zendeavor> well, irssi is active dev
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<brisbin> really?
<zendeavor> but it's glacial pace
<brisbin> ha
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<zendeavor> yeah, and i think they're not doing any periodic releases?
<zendeavor> the svn isn't hard to find
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<brisbin> you use irssi zendeavor ?
<zendeavor> no
<brisbin> why so defensive bro
<zendeavor> only fair.
<zendeavor> there's still the buffer list, nick list, completion mechanisms, buffer management, smart filters, iset, /script
<fourq> brisbin: have a weechat config available on gh?
<zendeavor> <-
<brisbin> fourq: i've been trying to figure out how to do that, weechat breaks config into like 27 files, and some have passwords in it, so... no. not yet
<fourq> eek
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<zendeavor> don't post irc.conf
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<brisbin> it's so easy to *not* need passwords to be in plaintext config files, i'm starting to really dislike programs that require one to do so
<zendeavor> i'm pretty sure that's the only one of my module confs that have a password in it
<brisbin> offlineimap and msmtp get it right, imo
<DanielRb> i'm split between ruby, python and C++
<zendeavor> and i heard weechat can take hashed passwords now
<zendeavor> DanielRb: use them all except c++
<DanielRb> but C++ is powerful
<zendeavor> okay then use it.
<DanielRb> (powerful in the right hands i should say)
<zendeavor> any sufficiently complex project will use a mixture of lanugages anyway
<DanielRb> true
<zendeavor> and (c++ is fragile in any hands)
<brisbin> DanielRb: use haskell
<brisbin> and change your name to DanielHs
<DanielRb> haskell isn't object orientated
<DanielRb> or is it?
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<zendeavor> python barely is anyway
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<brisbin> it's not
<zendeavor> only by convention
<brisbin> if that's a requirment ruby is most object oriented
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<zendeavor> c++ just happens to HAVE objects, too
<zendeavor> because c++ includes a kitchen sink
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<brisbin> if OOP is your jam, ruby is where it's at
<brisbin> it's basically smalltalk which is the OOP of all OOPs
<DanielRb> at the moment i'm not working on any project. i just want to advance my knowledge and i keep getting distracted between working on something written in Ruby, Python and C++
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<zendeavor> that's fine
<zendeavor> i'd still dismiss c++
<brisbin> i see no reason to know c++
<zendeavor> it's one of those languages.
<brisbin> c, sure. python, sure. ruby, sure. c++... meh
<DanielRb> installing haskell-platform using homebrew as we speak
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<brisbin> DanielRb: be sure to read learnyouahaskell
<zendeavor> haskell will break your head into pieces.
<brisbin> haskell's the best
<zendeavor> fantastic.
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<DanielRb> i like to have a working stack before trying it lol
<zendeavor> but will definitely warp your mind.
<shevy> perhaps he wants to go into game engines like ogre3d or crystalspace, where he would need C++
<DanielRb> not really interested in games like that
<DanielRb> web games sure
<zendeavor> unity3d
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<DanielRb> i like Python because it comes with by default with most linux distros but i like Ruby because… well i like Ruby.
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<fourq> C# >=)
<DanielRb> I've tried C#, but it's mostly windows
<fourq> I think it's only windows, except when used mono or something
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<fourq> and the ide will break the bank
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<DanielRb> i already have visual studio as part of dreamspark
<DanielRb> but i don't like being locked into Windows.
<DanielRb> i actually use OS X too, so C# is out of the question unless i use something like mono
<fourq> yeah I wasn't really reccomending it, just thought it'd be "that guy"
<DanielRb> :P
<fourq> though I enjoy coding in it
<DanielRb> what do you think of Go language
<zendeavor> don't drink the .net koolaid
<fourq> and VS witht he dark theme is actually really nice
<DanielRb> fourq: it is
<zendeavor> DanielRb: go talk to #go-nuts
<DanielRb> LOL
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<DanielRb> better not join the Go-Nuts Cult
<zendeavor> at least they didn't call it #go-nads okay
<DanielRb> ha
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<DanielRb> what IDE for Ruby do you all use?
<DanielRb> vim is nice, but i just can't get used to it
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<zendeavor> vim, emacs.
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<zendeavor> DanielRb: /msg vimgor movement
<DanielRb> what?
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<fourq> i like vim and sublime text
<fourq> but I use vim more so for ruby, and sublime text mostly for Apex
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<brisbin> i could never not use vim for anything
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<fourq> brisbin: what do you think of spf13? junk?
<fourq> most vim lovers hate it
<fourq> that i know
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<fourq> I personally think it's a-ok
<brisbin> never heard of either
<fourq> oh? check it out, it's for vim
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<fourq> but if you're a config guy, which I know you are, you might hate it
<substrate> brisbin and apeiros I would use * on RHS of = if it's inside [] like [*1..100]
<fourq> but it does create a very neat config file by default...or rather structured
<DanielRb> what?
<brisbin> fourq: oh that's the ready-made vim config?
<fourq> DanielRb: earlier convo
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<fourq> brisbin: yeah
<brisbin> yeay, no thanks :)
<fourq> figured
<brisbin> my config is sancrosanct
<fourq> =)
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<brisbin> sacrosanct?
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<brisbin> substrate: that's interesting, is that like (1..100).to_a?
<substrate> yea it's splats out the range to fill the array. Useful for Project Euler problems
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<DanielRb> my vim takes a while to laod
<DanielRb> *load
<DanielRb> have too many plugins i think
<substrate> it doesn't have to be a range. You can coerce "Hello" to ["Hello"] with *"Hello"
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<substrate> oh wait nvm. just tried it. that blog lied to me
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<zendeavor> cram looks interesting
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<zendeavor> DanielRb: cut down to bare minimum
<DanielRb> i just launched "vim Test.rb" now.. it's not too bad
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<DanielRb> i don't have many plugins though
<zendeavor> do you post your .vim* on gh or anything
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<shevy> no
<shevy> on facebook
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<zendeavor> bail
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<brisbin> i went through a big config purge recently
<DanielRb> hmm, when i paste something from clipboard into a file using vim,, it comments out everything
<brisbin> feels god
<brisbin> good*
<DanielRb> must be some plugin or config
<brisbin> DanielRb: set paste
<DanielRb> what?
<zendeavor> no don't set paste
<fourq> :set paste
<brisbin> before pasting, set paste
<zendeavor> use your registers.
<brisbin> well
<brisbin> sure
<brisbin> "+p
<DanielRb> oh nice, thanks
<zendeavor> :set paste is bad for you
<zendeavor> forget it exists
<DanielRb> how so?
<brisbin> you're making a lotta sense zendeavor
<brisbin> DanielRb: remember to set nopaste after you're done pasting
<brisbin> i suspect that's the main motivation for forgetting this exists
<zendeavor> DanielRb: because you should really really really learn how to use your registers
<DanielRb> what registers?
<zendeavor> but yeah, you better :set nopaste immediately after finishing a paste, else you're stuck in vi mode
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<fourq> the ones you're about to learn about
<brisbin> DanielRb: type :display
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<brisbin> zomg registers!
<zendeavor> :help E354
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<DanielRb> too much to remember right now
<zendeavor> you get used to it
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<zendeavor> :help 'pt'
<jrobeson> so funny to see Motif still mentioned in the docs..
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<DanielRb> is it bad that i'm using vim from terminal?
<brisbin> hmm what's the difference b/w ^T and ^O?
<brisbin> DanielRb: why would that be bad?
<zendeavor> brisbin: huh?
<zendeavor> DanielRb: that is the only proper way to vim.
<fourq> if it's a powershell terminal maybe =)
<DanielRb> macvim vs just terminal
<brisbin> zendeavor: i did you help command, it gave me a simple help and said to "Go back" was CTRL-T or CTRL-O
<zendeavor> that's still macvim
<brisbin> i've only ever used CTRL-O
<zendeavor> "go back" where
<shevy> to start
<brisbin> zendeavor: ^O goes backward in the jump list
<brisbin> good for when tag-navigating via ^[
<zendeavor> i know what ^o does
<zendeavor> i just don't know where you are finding "go back"
<zendeavor> 'taglist' and 'jumplist' are different things brisbin
<brisbin> sorry it was my mistake. vim +help +/Jump\ back # to see what i was talking about
<jrobeson> how did you guys learn how to really really use vim. i can do the basics pretty well.. avoiding the cursor keys, staying out of insert mode and whatnot
<zendeavor> jrobeson: :help
<jrobeson> but now i wanna go to the next level.
<brisbin> zendeavor: i didn't quote my space so help E354 took me somewhere else...
<zendeavor> oh lol
<fourq> vim tutor
<jrobeson> just reading isn't as usefu until one sees how it goes
<jrobeson> like how things get really useful in practice
<zendeavor> jrobeson: :help
<jrobeson> oh.. i had forgotten about vimcasts also..
<fourq> vimtutor i mean
<zendeavor> :h is the path to enlightenment
<jrobeson> what about vimtutor?
<zendeavor> for noobs.
<fourq> thought it might help?
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<jrobeson> vmtutor is old news for me
<fourq> well well well
<DanielRb> i need to find a better colour theme for vim, lol: http://i.ejl.im/b1122.png
<fourq> DanielRb: try out spf13 if you're new to it. it has tons of themes
<brisbin> DanielRb: zenburn is nice
<zendeavor> i use cloudsmidnight and molokai and zenburn
<fourq> I like darkspectrum
<zendeavor> and don't you touch spf13, sinner
<fourq> hah
<fourq> just let someone else win for a min
<DanielRb> fourq: can you show me a picture of dark spectrum?
<jrobeson> spf13 set up lots of neat stuff out of the box.. it's perhaps not the best config.. but honestly i'm never going to learn vimscript..
<fourq> DanielRb: nope, i'm on my work mac atm
<DanielRb> ah
<fourq> nothing installed
<jrobeson> i wish they'd replace vimscript completely with lua
<DanielRb> lua.. yuck
<DanielRb> replace with mruby :)
<jrobeson> uhmm?
<zendeavor> fourq: you're a mac guy?
<jrobeson> ruby is heavier than necessary for an embedded scripting language
<zendeavor> http://is.gd/MUvftX DanielRb
<jrobeson> my xmpp server is actually written in lua.
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<zendeavor> jrobeson: that's why he said mruby, probably
<jrobeson> i doubt it can really match lua
<jrobeson> plus certain things have weight that others don't
<fourq> zendeavor: no, linux usually, but I have a mac right now for Salesforce developement with Sublime Text's MavenMate plugin that is only avail on mac
<fourq> crunchbang at the office w/vmware win7
<zendeavor> well, if you're an ST guy, subvim might be worth poking at
<DanielRb> subvim is nice
<jrobeson> DanielRb, do you have a specific thing against lua ?
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<brisbin> that makes for a good discussion, what is the best "extension" language and why?
<jrobeson> seems fit for purpose for me..
<zendeavor> jrobeson: developed in a darkroom
<jrobeson> ah.. that is a good one for sure
<jrobeson> a good reason imean
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<DanielRb> jrobeseon: i can't really say anything about Lua, i've never bothered to use it/learn it.. I don't like the syntax though
<zendeavor> i'll never use lua as long as it's a trade secret.
<jrobeson> i had forgotten about that.. i haven't actually looked into development of the lua language since i first read about it :)
<jrobeson> zendeavor, that's a good reason for sure
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<jrobeson> ah i don't mind the syntax..
<jrobeson> it's like a better javascript..
<fourq> oh...subvim
<fourq> hmm
<zendeavor> brisbin: what IS a good extension language
<DanielRb> mruby
<zendeavor> fourq: just don't recommend janus or spf13 ever again plz
<fourq> this is interesting, you guys use it?
<brisbin> zendeavor: stdin/stdout :)
<fourq> zendeavor: I'm laxy with config, and i like the presets
<jrobeson> something in which is easy to do FFI and is slim
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<jrobeson> and decently designed :)
<zendeavor> fourq: no, but it serves a narrower purpose than junk like spf13 which are kitchen-sink-configurations
<jrobeson> lua is those.. except the array starting at 1 bit..
<brisbin> zendeavor: again I point to offlineimap/msmtp give be an executable which will spit out what i need. done.
<jrobeson> i want a kitchen sink configuraiton though..
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<zendeavor> brisbin: i don't use those, not sure what you mean
<zendeavor> i do have a unit for offlineimap
<fourq> zendeavor: I never said it was great, i just know that you get a taste of a lot of plugins riht off the bat that you might not otherwise know of if you're new to vim
<zendeavor> brisbin: still arch rite
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<jrobeson> i want to use a curated editor configuration.. i have enough other stuff in the world to learn about..
<fourq> or not new to vim, if you just do enjoy configing the hell out of it
<jrobeson> i'd prefer if somebody else decided a good way to do things
<fourq> s/do/don't
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<fourq> jrobeson: a lot of the time i agree with that
<zendeavor> i do too
<zendeavor> then i realize i disagree with a mapping
<jrobeson> as long as it's still possible to adjust as needed
<zendeavor> then i realize how dumb a function is
<DanielRb> hmm, i can set the color theme with :color file right?
<DanielRb> gettng errors
<jrobeson> and it seems to be such
<zendeavor> then i realize that i never use XY plugin
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<zendeavor> and then i spend more time UNCONFIGURING vim than i do configging it
<fourq> DanielRb: :color <theme name>
<jrobeson> zendeavor, well i have plenty of packages on my os i don't use.. and i don't care about that :)
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<zendeavor> DanielRb: it has to be in ~/.vim/colors
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<jrobeson> i used to be a gentoo user
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<jrobeson> but switched to fedora
<DanielRb> http://vimcolorschemetest.googlecode.com/svn/colors/hhviolet.vim is in ~/.vim/colors and i did :color hhviolet
<DanielRb> i get a few errors
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<fourq> zendeavor: for sure, but once you realize that you like things like gthe gist plugin and emmet and a theme you can uninstall and call it a day
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<brisbin> zendeavor: yeah still arch. offlineimap and msmmtp both allow a passwordeval setting which points to an executable meant to output the password
<jrobeson> tired of dealing with all that..
<brisbin> makes it really easy to have configs without passwords in it, regardless of how you store your shit
<zendeavor> that's nice
<jrobeson> zendeavor, i'm sure at some point stuff like that will get in the way .. when it does.. i'll figure it out :)
<fourq> jrobeson: which fedora version you on?
<jrobeson> 19
<zendeavor> brisbin: i figured systemd206 systemcd --user out completely
<DanielRb> here: http://i.ejl.im/870b4.png
<zendeavor> systemd --user *
<jrobeson> glad that arch chose systemd.. even if don't like arch
<jrobeson> i wish gentoo would do the same
<fourq> i moved away from fedora at 17 I think
<jrobeson> it's just too bad openrc is good enough in a way..
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<fourq> the hotdog one
<brisbin> zendeavor: i'll never do the systemd user stuff, there's no way to have persisten screen!
<brisbin> by design
<jrobeson> fourq, i just got tired of dealing with nonsense in rolling releaese distros for a time
<zendeavor> brisbin: uhm, it's default in 205+
<jrobeson> finally distros got enough enough that i stopped caring
<brisbin> zendeavor: splain
<jrobeson> i mostly use fedora becuase i know that in the end.. it's supported by redhat
<jrobeson> and they have people who actually pay them money :)
<zendeavor> starting at 205, systemd --user is launched for logins
<fourq> ever use Crunchbang?
<jrobeson> nah..
<DanielRb> crunchbang is one of the best OS's IMO
<jrobeson> i got out of that phase before that
<DanielRb> but it's mostly debian + openbox
<jrobeson> i used gentoo for 6 years or so
<zendeavor> brisbin: i don't know what you mean by persistent screen though
<jrobeson> i like gnome 3 personally
<jrobeson> and fedora provides a good experience for that
<jrobeson> i've considered debian a few different times
<jrobeson> but .. i prefer something more curated also there
<jrobeson> i'd likely be using ubuntu if i didn't think they were doing such terrible things
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<fourq> I really enjoy crunchbang. I tried ubuntu for a while, and fedora for a couple years
<DanielRb> i don't really like gnome3
<jrobeson> they've made so many terrible decisions
<DanielRb> crunchbang is awesome (y)
<fourq> but settled in with openbox and crunch
<zendeavor> arch 4 lyf
<jrobeson> bzr and mir.. :(
<jrobeson> ah i live gnome3.. it's going in the right direction
<jrobeson> love*
<brisbin> zendeavor: so systemd is all about containing shit in C groups. so if you use systemd user to start X, then you start screen from within X, it's *impossible* for that screen session to escape its C group and persist across X restarts (or crashes). considering thats my main use case for screen, it's kind of a deal breaker
<fourq> though fluxbox on fedora wasn't bad
<DanielRb> the simplicity of openbox is what draws me to crunchbang
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<jrobeson> ah.. tha'ts too simple.. i still want a nice experience :)
<jrobeson> i want more than a wm..
<jrobeson> i want a full DE
<fourq> "nice"
<shevy> UNITY
<zendeavor> brisbin: heftig says a basic screen.service worked fine for him
<brisbin> zendeavor: i'll have to look into this
<jrobeson> shevy, if canonical weren't so terrible.. i'd likely end up OK with unity
<jrobeson> even if the first release wasn't too good
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<jrobeson> i'm sure they'd iron it out..
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<jrobeson> i just don't trust the company
<zendeavor> brisbin: on the other hand, tmux is a little broken
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<brisbin> zendeavor: the only way that works is to start all screen sessions you'd ever need on boot?
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<popl> >a little
<popl> :)
<brisbin> i have no need for tmux in a tiling wm
<DanielRb> unity should have really been optional
<zendeavor> brisbin: just a screen server/socket or whatever
<brisbin> hmm
<brisbin> fair enough, i'll have to look into it
<zendeavor> and uhm, why do you use screen if you have no need for tmux in a tiling wm
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<zendeavor> they serve the same purpose
<zendeavor> tmux and screen are like 95% equivalent
<fourq> maybe it's tmux to handle
<fourq> ..sigh
<fourq> here all night folks
<brisbin> zendeavor: i used screen first
<zendeavor> i just don't comprehend the comment
<zendeavor> "in a tiling wm"
<brisbin> the only thing tmux has over screen is vertical splits
<zendeavor> "i have no need for tmux because i already use screen" i would understand, lol
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<brisbin> and in a tiling wm i hav e no ned
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<brisbin> i have no need*
<jrobeson> DandyPandy, why? it goes against htem creating the curated experience they want to have
<zendeavor> it actually lacks one thing that screen wins pretty big on
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<jrobeson> i have neough decision fatique in my life trying to decide which ruby libs to use..
<jrobeson> let alone my desktop environment..
<zendeavor> brisbin: panning is a huge upside for screen
<shevy> no jrobeson
<brisbin> panning?
<shevy> jrobeson always write your own libs
<jrobeson> do what..
<jrobeson> that makes no sense..
<shevy> everything
<jrobeson> then i'd never get any actual work done ever..
<zendeavor> brisbin: so, in tmux, the size of your window is limited to the window size of the smallest attached client
<zendeavor> brisbin: if they implement panning, then the bigger clients can expand the panes to fit the full window
<zendeavor> brisbin: i believe screen -x offers this? but i dno't know screen that well
<brisbin> interesting, i've never had a need for this one way or another
<zendeavor> i'm attached in my X session and on tty2
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<zendeavor> i use a tiny font on ttyN so my tmux session is currently only taking up 3/4 of the screen, in a rectangle
<fourq> then, once you figure out one OS, and its setup, fireup a new box and get synergy
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<zendeavor> brisbin: fwiw, i fired up this tmux session from within X, then attached to it from tty2 with no hiccups
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<fourq> clear
<fourq> err
<brisbin> ls
<brisbin> exit
<fourq> =)
<jrobeson> part
<shevy> rescue
<zendeavor> so i'm a little uncertain what you mean by the cgroups problem, as it doesn't appear to exist for me
<DanielRb> ./nick Daniel.Rb
<brisbin> zendeavor: open a terminal in X, start screen/tmux in there, kill X
<DanielRb> lolol
<brisbin> restart X and reattach your screen or tmux
<zendeavor> in that case, a properly written unit is in order.
<zendeavor> i think i get it now
<jrobeson> i just read ablog about this
<shevy> huh
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<zendeavor> brisbin: i'm *pretty sure* that using a .service solves this problem. just make sure you don't put your socket/server in $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
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<shevy> it would be cool to be able to boot into linux, commandline, then just start openoffice... without having to use xorgserver
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<zendeavor> that's doable
<brisbin> zendeavor: you might be right. i'm on the fence if systemd --user is worth the effort though
<zendeavor> brisbin: i already solved the effort.
<brisbin> people have been using that argument a lot lately, like bloat that someone else manages isn't still bloat
<fourq> with subvim can is there anything like the package installer?
<zendeavor> brisbin: i've gone so far as to displace shell exports and /etc/profile.d/ for setting up the env
<zendeavor> brisbin: you said effort, not "bloat"
<brisbin> true
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<brisbin> i meant bloat
<brisbin> complexity
<zendeavor> fwiw, i'm debloating and uncomplicating by taking shell out of the equation
<brisbin> maybe, we'll see ;)
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<zendeavor> all your environment defaults go in /etc/environment. all your user environment vars go in ~/.pam_environment
<zendeavor> that's instead of /etc/profile.d, and ~/.bash_profile
<zendeavor> and then, your login no longer relies on shell scripts, just like your init stopped relying on them ~2 years ago
<fourq> so screen + irssi and notifications?
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<brisbin> set them bells!
<zendeavor> no clue, weechat has notification plugins
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<fourq> that work over ssh?
<brisbin> fourq: make your irc client raise a terminal bell, make screen foward said bell, make your wm/de/os notify you of said bell
<zendeavor> fourq: yes, over ssh
<brisbin> make your ssh client forward said bell
<brisbin> ???; profit
<fourq> I need that to happen at the office.
<fourq> though i GET MORE WORK DONE WITHOUT IT
<fourq> err
<fourq> caps
<fourq> i HAVE A HARD TIME (see) with this mbp
<zendeavor> brisbin: i admit that it seems more complicated *at first* because you've carefully curated your environment setup with your shell startup scripts. but remember how that breaks as soon as you switch to a display manager?
<brisbin> one does not simply *switch to a display manager*
<zendeavor> and then you have to go figure out which file your DM uses, and make it source you .bash_profile
<brisbin> seriously though, i don't think i'll ever change that aspect of my setup
<zendeavor> and then if you switch, pray the new DM uses the same files
<brisbin> i just start a tty, my shell startup files are my env startup files
<brisbin> will always be
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<zendeavor> i don't blame you, but i'm just saying my opinion is that i've found out how to reduce the complexity by removing the dependence on shell scripts
<brisbin> fair enough
<zendeavor> it doesn't affect you or i because we don't use display managers
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<zendeavor> but, #archlinux may no longer have to field questions like "how come my environment vars are missing when i login to gdm!!!!????"
<zendeavor> the problem will disappear ;D
<brisbin> that would be nice indeed
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<zendeavor> but i suck at C and pam_env.c needs to honor a drop-in dir like /etc/pam.d to be fully equivalent to /etc/profile.d/
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<zendeavor> brisbin: hack it for me =[
<brisbin> zendeavor: i'll work on that :)
<brisbin> i'm on C dev, that's for sure
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<zendeavor> i learned enough C to grasp the lower level concepts, like why memory management is important and how to do it, and how to determine correct data structures appropriate for the task at hand
<zendeavor> i can't actually *write* good C though
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<thumbee> me new to web development. any know the (plain english) relationship of DOM to say rest of the stuff. ie. when would i use it. where do i write this code? it is stuff that goes in an html file?
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<jrobeson> thumbee, html itself is based on the dom..
<jrobeson> css properties work against the dom
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<jrobeson> you're going to have to do a lot of reading to really understand it all
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<thumbee> icic. ya. just trying to understand the high level. like how things fit together
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<thumbee> first someones like writing the HTML. then they have javascript. the php. css.. then DOM :s im sure theres some good organizational reason to write in so many different langauges in diff files but err. confusing
<thumbee> most documents i find talk about one particular thing.. as oppose to the big picture integration of stuff
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<zendeavor> people write DOM?
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<thumbee> i have no idea ! lol.
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<mantas322> Hi guys
<mantas322> I have a stupid question
<mantas322> I have a Hash
<DanielRb> what… haskell faster than c++ in "fasta" benchmark??
<jrobeson> thumbee, the DOM is kinda like the design of html
<mantas322> which has strings for keys and ints for values
<mantas322> fruithash["apple"] = 3
<jrobeson> thumbee, perhaps it's best if you try to associate things with what you might already be familiar with..
<mantas322> puts fruithash["apple"]
<mantas322> should give me 3 right?
<jrobeson> what did you do other than web dev..
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<Buuyo> the dom is the browser's running representation of the page. the browser creates a dom from the HTML it receives from the server, and the javascript can manipulate the dom to change the way the page is organized in the browser at runtime. :p
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<mantas322> wtf is ghoing on!
<mantas322> "no implicit conversion of String into Integer (TypeError)"
<DanielRb> show your code
<Orxata_> Haskell is fast
<thumbee> jrobeson: ive tried writing simple HTML.. some css. 2 seperate files.. one references the other. tried to understand javascript.. it seems like a 3rd file that runs on the browser for real-time feedback processed on the client end.. then now DOM.. /facepalm/
<jrobeson> there is a lot ot understand thumbee
<jrobeson> web development is hard ..
<jrobeson> you just have to keep reading
<thumbee> Buuyo: thanks. that helped
<Orxata_> reading and doing it
<thumbee> DOM sounds like its not even a 'language' or anything you write.. its just something that the browser creates and javascript can reference it.. so really if anyone is "using DOM" they are using it when writing their javascript code. correct?
<jrobeson> and css..
<jrobeson> focusing on the css side is likely easier
<jrobeson> it's definitely not something you write
<Buuyo> thumbee: the DOM is just a tree-like datastructure containing the elements of the page starting from the root node, which is often the <html> element.
<mantas322> hmmm
<mantas322> " no implicit conversion of String into Integer (TypeError)"
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<jrobeson> thumbee, in that case.. usually page is equivalent to document
<Orxata_> in fact, understanding javascript it helps a lot to understand DOM
<jrobeson> *usually*
<thumbee> jrobeson: "it's definitely not something you write" <-- GOOD TO KNOW.. lol!!
<Buuyo> the css also references the dom, not the html :)
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<Buuyo> but without javascript monkeying around, the dom is pretty much going to be identifical to the way the html is laid out
<jrobeson> Orxata_, obviously.. but it's easier to start with css than another actual programming language
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<jrobeson> thumbee, web developer definitely involves knowing at least 3 different "languages" (using it generically here)
<jrobeson> web development*
<thumbee> Orxata_: i probably asking ridiculous questions cause i dont know javascript :p
<jrobeson> for folks who use something like ruby.. that adds one more
<thumbee> jrobeson: what are the 3 langauges you are referring to. HTML, javascript and ?
<Buuyo> it's definitely worthwhile to learn all technologies involved, even if you only plan to go deep in one area
<jrobeson> css
<thumbee> kk
<jrobeson> not really languages per se..
<jrobeson> but close enough for you..
<Orxata_> thumbee, they're not ridiculous questions :d
<dominikh> yes, languages per se; not programming languages.
<Orxata_> I like the definition by Buuyo
<jrobeson> it's a good start for understanding for sure
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<thumbee> if im writing just HTML + css.. will i not need to understand how the DOM works? its only when i introduce javascipt that the concepts of the DOM become really relevant?
<Orxata_> Actually I find difficult to define DOM xD
<jrobeson> thumbee, css uses the dom too
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<Buuyo> thumbee: you'll need to understand how css selectors work, which is how you target things on the page to apply visual effects. css selectors traverse the dom, so you need to understand the dom's tree-like nature
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<Buuyo> thumbee: as for the individual dom node functions you can call on any given node, that's not so important until you start getting into javascript
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<DanielRb> does ruby have anything like Cython?
<DanielRb> *CPython
<jrobeson> uhmm.. i thought cpython was just python..
<sam113101> an interpreter?
<sam113101> yeah we got one
<jrobeson> DanielRb, cpython is just the regular python
<sam113101> ruby isn't just a conceptual language anymore, you know
<DanielRb> no i meant Cython
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<Buuyo> thumbee: as a side note though, if you're doing just html + css you're not doing any really fun things in the browser. :) The fun stuff begins where javascripts are involved.
<jrobeson> oh ocrrected yourself to cpython
<DanielRb> oh, yeah sorry about that
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<jrobeson> yeah that's different :)
<jrobeson> i think i saw something like that
<DanielRb> i read this wrong lol "The primary Python execution environment is commonly referred to as CPython, "
<jrobeson> trying to remember
<Orxata_> it's sad that js had become so web-development dependent, when it's a language on it's own right
<DanielRb> nodejs?
<Buuyo> well, it's used in a lot of places that aren't so closely web related
<sam113101> quite the opposite IMO
<Orxata_> nodejs it's cool
<Orxata_> with nodejs you can understand DOM :d
<sam113101> it's quite sad that it's getting used outside of client scripting more and more
<jrobeson> Orxata_, because it started as a web dev language..
<Buuyo> actionscript used to be kind of popular, you know, before we managed to burn all the flash developers at the stake
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<Buuyo> :)
<DanielRb> oh no
<DanielRb> i'm a AS3 dev!
<Orxata_> haha bubbajones
<Orxata_> Buuyo*
<Buuyo> better run ;)
<DanielRb> haven't made anything with AS3 in a while though
<Orxata_> hahaha
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<DanielRb> ex actionscript dev ;)
<Buuyo> heheh
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<DanielRb> have any of you tried OpenSolaris?
<DanielRb> or a solaris based os
<Buuyo> qt has embraced javascript/ecmascript pretty heavily these days too
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<jrobeson> i can't imagine why i'd have want to DanielRb
<jrobeson> err why i'd ever want to*
<jrobeson> if i ever wanted anything not linux.. bsd is just fine..
<Buuyo> wouldn't it be something like... your DBA demanded it because it was the environment he's used the most for running oracle? :p
<jrobeson> would he be using opensolaris.. or the actual solaris? :)
<Buuyo> so in effect you had to use it on and off even though you didn't want to
<jrobeson> or rahter.. they.. :(
<DanielRb> fine,, i'll try freebsd in a VM
<Buuyo> :p
<DanielRb> instead of opensolaris
<jrobeson> i don't really got much enjoyment out of trying so many oses that are so similiar
<jrobeson> DanielRb, what is the purpose you're trying to achieve?
<Buuyo> they've all got different tastes from an administration standpoint
<DanielRb> jrobeson: boredom
<jrobeson> well if the purpose is simply to try new oses..
<Orxata_> hahha
<jrobeson> turns out i was right :)
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<Buuyo> how about plan9 :)
<Orxata_> boreDOM
<jrobeson> DanielRb, try haiku or plan 9
<jrobeson> both will be far more interesting
<DanielRb> have windows, crunchbang (had fedora), debian VM's :D
<DanielRb> i tried haiku, eh
<DanielRb> oh and Arch
<jrobeson> beos.. how i miss you..
<jrobeson> i get 0 enjoyment out of trying dofferent linux bases oses..
<Buuyo> i seem to recall that they did a beos reboot recently all open-source.
<jrobeson> it's all too similiar.. the differences are all in the annoying parts :)
<jrobeson> Buuyo, tha'ts haiku
<Buuyo> oh
<Buuyo> well there you go xD
<DanielRb> why does freebsd host the ISOs on an FTP mirror??
<jrobeson> i've been checking up on haiku at least once a year ever since 2001
<jrobeson> it was crazy.. i had a p200 and played like 8 mp3s at one time with no stutter
<Buuyo> DanielRb: they're oldfashioned.
<jrobeson> the computer was still usable
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<DanielRb> their ftp servers don't even work
<Buuyo> DanielRb: just wait until you do a userland version upgrade/build. :)
<DanielRb> do they have torrents?
<Buuyo> you'll be in for a thrill
<jrobeson> DanielRb, if you're gonna be bored.. try coding something
<thumbee> appreciate the help everyone :) thanks! going to take a break now
<DanielRb> i have no idea what to code lol
<jrobeson> isn't there a project missing something you want out there?
<jrobeson> or some bug you want fixed
<jrobeson> or a package missing from your OS
<DanielRb> i use OS X
<DanielRb> sadly
<Buuyo> so you're missing games
<DanielRb> nah
<jrobeson> hah
<DanielRb> don't play games
<DanielRb> well uhm, besides minecraft
<jrobeson> well.. i don't see what's sad about using osx ..
<Buuyo> :)
<jrobeson> except that apple made it..
<Buuyo> it's just another os
<jrobeson> DanielRb, well freebsd isn't a bad choice if yuo wanna know more about your mac
<DanielRb> i want to dual boot crunchbang on my OS X
<DanielRb> did it on my other laptop(s)
<DanielRb> hmm
<Buuyo> how about Darwin proper :)
<jrobeson> yes you could install darwin
<Buuyo> you can still install that separate from OSX right? xD
<DanielRb> jrobeson: downloading freebsd iso now
<jrobeson> uhmm.. maybe
<jrobeson> i remember there was a point in time where the was some huge issues over that.. but it hought it got resolved
<DanielRb> jrobeson: http://i.ejl.im/8cc16.png ;\
<jrobeson> DanielRb, oh.. i could have suggested that you install that uhmm.. wha'ts it called
<jrobeson> it's a more userfriendly version of freebsd
<sam113101> use DOS
<DanielRb> netbsd?
<jrobeson> i guess you could dsay ti's the "ubuntu" of freebsd"
<DanielRb> lol DOS
<Buuyo> DanielRb: here's hoping your freebsd will even run in a vm. last I tried in virtualbox it couldn't finish the kernel bootstrap :p
<jrobeson> but what was it called..
<DanielRb> Buuyo: we'll see
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<sam113101> Buuyo: worked for me
<jrobeson> virtualbox.. i wonder if that ever got better
<Buuyo> sam113101: it might be a quirk of my hardware. hmm
<DanielRb> vmware fusion has it listed under Other
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<jrobeson> i couldn't get the stupid thing to handle playing netflix without burning up my cpu
<jrobeson> even though it supposably forwarded opengl
<jrobeson> looks like i was still getting sofware rendering..
<jrobeson> no.. not forwared opengl.. forwarded direct pci..
<Buuyo> the trick with virtualbox is to forward a dedicated graphics card through to the guest os :)
<jrobeson> yes.. that's what i meant :)
<jrobeson> oh..
<jrobeson> no.. i missed a part of what you said
<jrobeson> another graphics card.. that won't work on a laptop..
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<Buuyo> have thunderbolt?
<jrobeson> i'd never buy a device that had thunderbolt.. so :)
<jrobeson> that being an apple computer
<Buuyo> well if you did you could get a pci enclosure
<Buuyo> and put your dedicated card in there :p
<jrobeson> at that point.. i'd just buy a roku or something
<Buuyo> but that defeats the point of being incredibly complicated for no good reason :p
<jrobeson> the goal was to be able to watch netflix on the go
<DanielRb> 30 minutes for freebsd
<jrobeson> i just want to be able to watch netflix without dual booting windows
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<jrobeson> it seems to be a bit too much for virtualbox to handle on this machine
<DanielRb> oh no, 31 minutes now
<jrobeson> perhaps vmware plalyer would do a better job
<jrobeson> but really i need a new laptop
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<jrobeson> waiting for some of the new haswell stuff to come out
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<jrobeson> then i can finally paly the games i want
<Buuyo> that's wise
<Buuyo> the battery savings are going to be sweet
<jrobeson> i'm not a big gamer.. but i do want to play some of the humble indiebundle games
<Buuyo> I'm waiting to upgrade myself. :)
<DanielRb> what's the best OS for longest battery life?
<jrobeson> and without nvidia
<jrobeson> mac osx or windows
<DanielRb> linux
<jrobeson> not linux..
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<jrobeson> i say that as a linux user
<jrobeson> unless you have a very specific combo of hardware
<Buuyo> Linux has that new haswell power state doesn't it? :p
<jrobeson> maybe
<jrobeson> but they can only do so much unless you're ready to run powertop and figure it all out
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<DanielRb> how about "Hello World" OS
<jrobeson> because no matter what haswell does.. unless apps stop waking up the cpu unnecessarily..
<sam113101> stick with Mac OS if you want to get the most out of your mac's battery… makes sense
<jrobeson> it won't help
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<jrobeson> although for osme of you linux users with more "custom" distros like arch.. this won't be a big deal for you
<jrobeson> and you can get some pretty decent battery out of linux
<DanielRb> crunchbang runs pretty good on a VM on my dual core mac
<jrobeson> a vm isn't real hardware though..
<DanielRb> hardware virtualziation?
<jrobeson> you don't have to deal with efi, the actual graphics drivers.. and all that crap
<DanielRb> true
<jrobeson> read the reviews of people who are trying to get distros working on the newer mac books
<DanielRb> i'd dual boot it on here if only for trackpad issues
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<jrobeson> that's the thing that keeps coming up in favor of macs
<jrobeson> the touchpads just sound like the bees knees :)
<DanielRb> well, it works fine
<DanielRb> it's just very sensitive and i'm not sure the best way to get it good lol
<jrobeson> but it's supposed to work awesome
<DanielRb> under linux
<jrobeson> i just read something about that..
<jrobeson> not specific to macs.. but the thinkpad x1 carbon
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<jrobeson> it's possible to customize the sensitivity
<DanielRb> trackpad is the only thing
<jrobeson> the thinkpad x1 carbon is possibly the most beautiful thinkpad ever built
<DanielRb> (that's keeping me from dual bootign)
<jrobeson> i can't imagine dual booting
<jrobeson> having to stop what i' mdoing to boot up another os..
<jrobeson> why bother
<jrobeson> i only use one OS at a time
<Buuyo> x1 carbon is indeed beautiful.
<DanielRb> *this
<jrobeson> so where's our haswell based x2 or whatever :)
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<jrobeson> DanielRb, yes
<DanielRb> the screen looks dark
<jrobeson> there;s nothing on the screen..
<jrobeson> it's turned off
<Buuyo> I wonder if you can put a 6 cell battery in there instead of the 4 cell
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<jrobeson> Buuyo, i thought they had that battery slice thing or something
<jrobeson> and you just kinda stick it to the bottom
<jrobeson> i never read up on it though
<Buuyo> that sounds amazing
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<jrobeson> i know it's on some think pads
<Buuyo> my favourite laptop of all time let me take out the cdrom and put an extra battery in its place :)
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<jrobeson> it gets too heavy that way though
<DanielRb> what type of processor on the thinkpad?
<jrobeson> i want something super light
<jrobeson> DanielRb, that one is ivybridge i think..
<Buuyo> how about an ubuntu edge. :D
<DanielRb> dual or quad
<jrobeson> Buuyo, i want something like that.. buti can't escape x86 yet
<jrobeson> i have no idea
<jrobeson> i don't care
<jrobeson> the cpu rarely is the blocker for me
<jrobeson> all cpus run perfectly fast enough for me
<jrobeson> all modern cpus*
<DanielRb> do you use it for dev stuff?
<jrobeson> yep
<DanielRb> what type?
<jrobeson> I/O stuff is the blocker..
<Orxata_> what do you think about web desktops?
<jrobeson> so an ssd will add more to my dev than cpu
<jrobeson> the cpu spends most of the time idling
<jrobeson> not doing a damn thing
<DanielRb> my mac: 15:05 up 7:16, 2 users, load averages: 1.17 1.06 1.05
<jrobeson> DanielRb, uhmm.. i mostly do web dev..
<Buuyo> how about dual or triple screen laptops :p
<Buuyo> give me a roll-out oled screen
<jrobeson> but i've compiled kernels and various C projects and things as necessary
<Buuyo> like unrolling a scroll
<jrobeson> that's what i want Buuyo too
<jrobeson> keep the computing part small
<jrobeson> like a puck
<jrobeson> DanielRb, cpu matters to almost no users
<jrobeson> % wise
<DanielRb> mm
<jrobeson> it's like .. 0.1%
<jrobeson> GPU is far more important to almost everyone now
<DanielRb> true
<DanielRb> btw, speaking of CPU/GPU's.. my intel ivy bridge cpu is apparantely running at 61 degrees celcius right now
<jrobeson> and even that is small
<jrobeson> SSD and ram are the things that are gonna help you the most
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<Buuyo> ^ this
<jrobeson> for any development
<jrobeson> and any usage really
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<Buuyo> my personal workstation at home is still an i7 930. Plenty fast still. I just put in more ram and a faster ssd. xD
<jrobeson> but .. i look at what happens on my system monitor.. it's always waiting on the disk
<jrobeson> it's never maxing the cpu .. except firefox sometimes
<jrobeson> and obviously that's some sort of buggy behavious
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<DanielRb> i think OS X is bringing my mac down
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<Buuyo> the new osx wont even run on my old macbook :p
<DanielRb> i bet if i installed crunchbang i'd have more resources for myself
<DanielRb> who needs a fancy desktop? :D
* Buuyo does
<DanielRb> i mostly just use OS X because of its Unix/BSD background
<jrobeson> it just depends on if you like caring for your computer more than actually using it :)
<jrobeson> hah :)
<DanielRb> lol
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<DanielRb> so who here actually uses a Linux distro every day?
<jrobeson> if i had no ethical qualms about apple.. i'd be using one right now
<Orxata_> me
<jrobeson> i do.
<Buuyo> every single day
<DanielRb> what distro?
<jrobeson> didn't we just cover this
<Orxata_> Ubuntu :D
<jrobeson> fedora here .. former gentoo user
<DanielRb> oh, i wasn't paying attention ha
<jrobeson> ubuntu once..
<Buuyo> debian at home, mix of ubuntu, rhel and centos on client sites xD
<DanielRb> i left ubuntu ages ago
<Orxata_> well, i left debian ages ago
<jrobeson> if i wasn't so annoyed at canonical.. i'd probably be using that
<DanielRb> yay, freebsd downloaded
<Buuyo> I just pin stable packages and pick and choose from sid and experimental :p
<jrobeson> they are doing some things that piss me off
<Orxata_> i understand you jrobeson
<jrobeson> MIR was the last straw that made me stop recommending ubuntu to my friends
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<jrobeson> generally i stopped recommending linux altogether though
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<jrobeson> because now that everything is all on the web.. it doesn't really matter anymore
<jrobeson> for most people
<DanielRb> alright freebsd booting in vm
<Buuyo> it's hard to recommend linux for anyone except your programmer types and power users. :p
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<Buuyo> i just dont see the benefit aside from the whole free as in freedom dogma
<jrobeson> well steam being on linux would havebeen a big deal
<jrobeson> like 5 years ago
<DanielRb> freebsd is installing! :D
<Buuyo> woohoo! :)
<jrobeson> polysics, whoo!
<Buuyo> figured out disk labels pretty quickly :p
<Orxata_> :d
<jrobeson> <3 polysics
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<DanielRb> i chose default settings, auto partitioning etc
<Buuyo> ah
<DanielRb> pretty sure i've used the installer before
<jrobeson> hey.. if you want more of a challenge.. yo ucould try debian/kfreebsd :)
<Buuyo> that old familiar text-based modal dialog system? :)
<jrobeson> or hurd..
<jrobeson> hah
<DanielRb> debian is easy
<jrobeson> not necessarily with kfreebsd..
<DanielRb> yes buuyo
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<Buuyo> pay attention to their attention to detail
<Buuyo> they even rounded the corners of the dialog boxes
<Buuyo> just to give it that extra pop
<jrobeson> rounded corners in a text based dialog?
<Buuyo> yup .-
<jrobeson> whoo
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<Buuyo> aww hell
<Orxata_> I'm sorry, do you mean Valve's steam, jrobeson?
<Buuyo> it's regressed!
<jrobeson> Orxata_, yes
<DanielRb> 71c
<Buuyo> when's the last time you took a compressed air can to it?
<DanielRb> never
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<Buuyo> dat gunk.
<DanielRb> my mac is only like a year old
<Orxata_> why did you say that steam on linux it's not a big deal nowadays, jrobeson?
<DanielRb> have any of you got geekbench 3 working on debian 7?
<DanielRb> glibc issues
<jrobeson> because linux on the desktop became more irrelvant.. because desktops became more irrelevant
<DanielRb> debian has an older glibc than ubuntu
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<Orxata_> I se
<Orxata_> e
<Buuyo> steam opens up linux on your tv via steambox
<Buuyo> that's gotta be worth something
<jrobeson> the vista launch and aftermath was the last chance
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<Orxata_> it's sad, isn't it?
<DanielRb> 60^
<DanielRb> 60%
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<jrobeson> that desktops are irrelevant?
<jrobeson> not really
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<DanielRb> wow, vmware supports freebsd?
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<DanielRb> that's great
<Buuyo> like vmware tools right?
<DanielRb> yes
<Orxata_> makes me feel nostalgich
<Buuyo> pkg_add that crap! xD
<jrobeson> what's sad is the amount of vendor lock-in on the tablets/phones and whatnot
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<jrobeson> but the concept of desktop irrelevance itself isn't
<Buuyo> I like the vision of the ubuntu edge
<Buuyo> that the desktop could be a phone in the right environment
<jrobeson> and/or motorola atrix :)
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<Buuyo> yeah
<jrobeson> the dock was in the wrong place though
<DanielRb> i wonder what OS Linus Torvalds uses lol
<jrobeson> i wanted to slide the phone into a laptop as the touchpad
<jrobeson> fedora i think
<Buuyo> I guess that's kind of the direction ms wanted to go with 8 :p
<jrobeson> and gnome 3 for DE
<DanielRb> LinusOS
<DanielRb> mm fedora..
<Buuyo> that whole it's a tablet and a computer thing. xD
<jrobeson> Buuyo, but they should have built that..
<DanielRb> still liking openbox better than gnome
<jrobeson> like awhile ago
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<jrobeson> DanielRb, if you like to customize things.. sure
<DanielRb> gnome3 just gets in my way
<jrobeson> i just want a good out of the box config.. and to follow freedesktop
<jrobeson> specs*
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<Buuyo> how about awesomewm ;)
<Buuyo> it's pretty awesome
<jrobeson> i meant to mention that earlier
<DanielRb> maybe i'd like gnome 3 if i didn't use it on a VM
<jrobeson> completely configurable
<DanielRb> yay freebsd installed
<jrobeson> i just don't care.. i want something good :)
<Buuyo> call it heresy, but I'm a big fan of Windows 7 + msys + sl2
<Buuyo> and if I *really* need linux, that's what a vm or putty is for
<jrobeson> ah. if i was forced to use windows as the main os.. i'd use a vm
<jrobeson> i wouldn't boether with msys
<jrobeson> windows 7 seems nice enough
<Buuyo> I get msys with git anyway, so I just use it a lot
<jrobeson> but.. i already have so much linux knowledge
<jrobeson> i know where to look if things mess up..
<jrobeson> i know how the OS on the whole works
<jrobeson> it's alot harder to do that with windows
<jrobeson> from my gentoo days
<Buuyo> in practice I haven't found Windows messing up except where my AMD drivers are concerned. :p
<DanielRb> someone should have told me not to download the handbook http://i.ejl.im/73b78.png
<Buuyo> AMD drivers are just about the most frustrating thing possible
<DanielRb> have you tried smxi?
<Buuyo> negatory
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<jrobeson> shouldn't we at least pretend to talk about ruby..
<jrobeson> hah
<DanielRb> nah
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<DanielRb> lol
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<Orxata_> hah
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<DanielRb> yay booting freebsd
<DanielRb> what DE should i install on it?
<DanielRb> a lightweight one please
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<DanielRb> hmm
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<Buuyo> DanielRb: you won't get a taste for it unless you do it from the console!
<Buuyo> DanielRb: they even give you a mouse in the console if you configure it :D
<Buuyo> i dunno if it has to be ps2 or what though
<DanielRb> mm
<DanielRb> but tbh
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<DanielRb> theres no point having vmware tools if it's console
<Buuyo> does that make vmware tools unnecessary or does it make the gui necessary? :p
<DanielRb> vmware tools basically integrates the mouse and screen resolution
<Buuyo> I know. My question was more about whether you really need to install vmware tools
<DanielRb> ah
<DanielRb> yeah err, idk
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<Orxata_> folks php seems to be very insecure
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<existensil> hahaha. yep. just search github for eval/exec + $_GET
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<existensil> like anything, it can be used securely, but PHP is one of the worst at getting developers to actually do that
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<Orxata_> exactly
<DanielRb> eval($_GET['v']);
<DanielRb> eh?
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<Orxata_> useful but safeless
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<existensil> it was my first love, the first language I understood deeply, and I haven't missed it at all in the years since I left it
<DanielRb> existensil: php?
<existensil> yes
<DanielRb> php can be a nightmare
<existensil> I used it for personal projects and was able to keep them pretty clean and OOP
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<Orxata_> oh
<Orxata_> true romance
<Orxata_> indeed
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<Orxata_> %00 :3
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<existensil> but it was disappointing to see the quality of public code. it also has tons of inherent limitations.
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<existensil> no threading, extremely poor (at the time) package/library management, and OO features that feel like they were bolted on (because they were)
<Orxata_> lol
<DanielRb> php doesn't have any threading right?
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<existensil> it sure didn't last I touched it
<existensil> i assume that hasn't changed
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<existensil> even if it did, one of the other problems is extremely slow and poor adoption of new versions
<DanielRb> i don't see why you'd need threading in a web language anyway
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<DanielRb> we all know you shouldn't use PHP for non-web projects… riiiggght?
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<existensil> I think threading can make sense for serving up a web app. A single application that can share resources and asynchronously respond to requests is compelling.
<existensil> but, yeah, the big problem was I ended up trying to use PHP for non-web-apps
<DanielRb> i once tried to make a game server in PHP
<existensil> even successfully made an ungodly slow tool for generating extremely detailed photo mosaics
<DanielRb> that was like 4-5 years ago i believe lol
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<Orxata_> eval is evil
<existensil> its a tool like any other. clearly, passing user input to it seems close to universally evil
<popl> s/evil/stupid/
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<zendeavor> s/stupid/easy to misuse/
<funnyboy240> You're kidding. it is?
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<popl> zendeavor: "its a tool like any other. clearly, passing user input to it seems close to universally easy to misuse"?
<popl> ;P
<funnyboy240> Who is zendeavor it? Do not ask me any more questions please. Is it that obvious?
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<zendeavor> i'm not following the context
<funnyboy240> I am sorryto hear that you are not following the context.
<zendeavor> that's boring
<funnyboy240> Do you think I am boring?
<popl> funnyboy240: are you a bot?
<zendeavor> an awful one
<funnyboy240> I think there might be a few exception.
<sevenseacat> looks like a bot
<funnyboy240> Interesting comparison.
<popl> yeah
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<funnyboy240> I hear you.
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<zendeavor> x like y
<funnyboy240> Do you have to take a big shit right now?
<zendeavor> like
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<funnyboy240> For example, Gale said I became mean to him he is just having revenge an eye for an eye.
<sevenseacat> o.O
<existensil> who the hell is Gale?
<funnyboy240> Oh.
<popl> apeiros: you around?
<lotherk> funnyboy240: what is 42?
<funnyboy240> I'm wondering what I should do today.
<lotherk> try OOM.
<funnyboy240> OK I will try it.
<lotherk> :>
<funnyboy240> Hey, 01 08 Welcome to trivialand kick back relax and play some trivia. Are we still talking about swimming pool?
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<lotherk> funnyboy240: who's your creator?
<popl> banisterfiend: around?
<funnyboy240> You and your mama is !
<lotherk> naw.
<funnyboy240> Are you serious?
<lotherk> dafuq?
<existensil> The responses are almost too weird for a bot. Just thinking troll now.
<funnyboy240> How do you usually introduce yourself?
<popl> whatever the fuck it is, it's annoying
<existensil> yep
<funnyboy240> You are not the only one. I'm not sure if I like it. I like computers.
<lotherk> ack
<funnyboy240> Nack.
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<existensil> anyone else use active_model_serializer ? Working with it now and really enjoying it. Best solution for building JSON responses for a rails app API I've used.
<funnyboy240> Lets talk about Mindy's PINGAS! "it" being anyone else use active model serializer? What is your real name?
<existensil> oh, wow
<funnyboy240> "What is your real name?"? oh, wow? I'm glad your impressed, 01 08 Welcome to trivialand kick back relax and play some trivia.
<zendeavor> bot help
<existensil> nvm. that response was too fast to not be a bot
<funnyboy240> I don't have a help parameter.
<zendeavor> bot foo
<funnyboy240> I don't have a foo parameter.
<existensil> bot quit
<zendeavor> bot like
<funnyboy240> I don't have a quit parameter.
<existensil> bot sudo quit
<funnyboy240> I don't have a sudo quit parameter.
<lotherk> bot exec rm -rf *
<funnyboy240> I don't have a exec rm rf * parameter.
<lotherk> bot list
<lotherk> bot ?
<funnyboy240> I don't have a list parameter.
<lotherk> mhm.
<funnyboy240> Ask me another question.
<lotherk> may someone kick it?
<funnyboy240> Can what?
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<zendeavor> the other channels it's joined require registration
<funnyboy240> We can't all be perfect.
<existensil> haha
<funnyboy240> I am so glad you find this amusing, 01 08 Welcome to trivialand kick back relax and play some trivia.
<zendeavor> bot trivia
<funnyboy240> I don't have a trivia parameter.
<zendeavor> bot trivialand
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<funnyboy240> I don't have a trivialand parameter.
<sevenseacat> bot quit
<funnyboy240> I don't have a quit parameter.
<zendeavor> tried that one already
<popl> not likely to work
<sevenseacat> darn
<funnyboy240> Perhaps. I'm wondering what I should do today.
<popl> just ignore it
<funnyboy240> "it" being tried that one?
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<lotherk> good idea.
<funnyboy240> I thought so too.
<zendeavor> well that's cute
<funnyboy240> Interesting. Your replies are cute too.
<existensil> that's the first time I've ever used /ignore in irssi
<funnyboy240> Yes it is one of the first time you have ever used ignore in irssi.
<popl> I don't like to but I have to do it in #ruby because the ops are not generally around.
<funnyboy240> What do you do for fun?
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<funnyboy240> I've never heard of them before.
<funnyboy240> I really couldn't say for sure.
<lotherk> it is Program A
<funnyboy240> Really. it is?
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<DanielRb> out of curiosity.. anyone here know why my network connection (eth0 device deosn't exist) after switching to linux kernel 3.0?
<funnyboy240> I've never heard of them before. Are we still talking about out of curiosity?
<DanielRb> arch linux
<lotherk> yeah
<funnyboy240> WHat's your favorite Linux distrobution? Mine favorite is Ubuntu!
<lotherk> try ip a
<funnyboy240> OK I will try it.
<zendeavor> DanielRb: wrong channel kiddo
<lotherk> might be something like en0p4s or something
<funnyboy240> Michael Jackson really likes me! :D .
<DanielRb> ens33
<funnyboy240> Is that a sign?
<DanielRb> zendeavor: the people in #archlinux don't seem to know much about it
<lotherk> the new system is just weird.
<funnyboy240> "it" being ens33?
<DanielRb> the interface yes
<funnyboy240> Thanks for the info.
<zendeavor> you won't find much more help here probably
<DanielRb> what?
<funnyboy240> What makes you think that I won't find much more help here.
<DanielRb> LOL
<zendeavor> stay in the topical channel.
<funnyboy240> I'm glad you find this amusing.
<popl> go ask in #archlinux or something DanielRb
<funnyboy240> They are not available right now, would you like to wait?
<DanielRb> popl: i have
<funnyboy240> I've been waiting for you.
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<lotherk> DanielRb: I'm no expert but may help you. query me if you want
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<funnyboy240> Enough about me, let's talk about my dress. What's your favorite movie?
<zendeavor> crossposting is frowned upon.
<zendeavor> the bot is on a round-robin proxy
<funnyboy240> Are they exactly the same?
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<Orxata_> see you
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<funnyboy240> Thanks for chatting, 01 09 3rd Hint cl 12 15 secs 198 Points 12Remaining.
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<jrobeson> aha.. here's that article about systemd and sessions i was thinking about earlier http://dvdhrm.wordpress.com/2013/08/24/session-management-on-linux/
<funnyboy240> Eureka! Oh there.
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<freakcult> i want to get all the websites hosted on a specific ip, how to do that in ruby??????
<freakcult> websites meant domains
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<lotherk> you mean a DNS server?
<freakcult> yes
<polysics> yeah, I think you need to elaborate a little more
<lotherk> lol, oh yes.
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<polysics> do you know how to do what you want in another language?
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<lotherk> afaik it is not possible to ask a dns server for all its hosted domains in a legal way...
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<polysics> freakcult: give us an use case, please, maybe there is another way to get the info you need
<polysics> aside from the fact that this is not in any way related to Ruby :)
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<polysics> smh at the disappearing 1337 h4x0r that doesn't even know how to ask a question
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<polysics> why does everything tagged "Ruby" on Stack Overflow have to be a Rails question? :(
<lotherk> not only on stack overflow :/
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<zendeavor> don't you know?
<zendeavor> ruby is railes
<zendeavor> rails
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<polysics> I work with Rails every day, it is not like I despise it
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<polysics> but I also do A LOT of non-Rails work
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<polysics> once every a few days I go over SO to see if I can help someone, but the amount of (dumb) Rails questions depresses me in a short time :)
<sevenseacat> ruby is damn powerful, just using it for rails is like handicapping such an awesome language
<sevenseacat> +1 to dumb rails questions
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<polysics> unfortunately Rails seems to attract PHP refugees for the most part
<sevenseacat> not that theres anything wrong with that, i was one of them a few years ago
<huf> doesnt everything?
<polysics> I did 10 years of pro PHP work before switching toRuby 3 years ago
<sevenseacat> s/10/7/ and you've described me
<polysics> the issue is that the average PHP dev level is abysmal
<polysics> it's the short bus of IT
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<sevenseacat> lol
<polysics> and you get people like the above "HOW DO I H4X0R iN RUBY" coming over
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<polysics> I also can't help it but despise on a personal level people that can't put a problem they have in writing
<huf> so all your clients?
<polysics> if you can't describe it you can't solve it, or have someone else do it
<polysics> no, at the developer level
<huf> ah. i hate our clients too for not being able to construct sentences :)
<freakcult> how to test rack apps?
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<sevenseacat> i get frustrated when clients cant express what they actually want
<polysics> this is a concept that I once heard stated by Stroustrup at a conference, and it is more true than most other CS/CE catchphrases
<polysics> I luckily tend to not deal with customers
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<polysics> someone else does that for me
<freakcult> @polysics ever heard of cucumber
<polysics> freakcult: of course I have. I do not like it though.
<sevenseacat> not many do
<polysics> the idea is good, but you will NEVER get the process owner to write those scenarios anyway
<freakcult> he will if you r a blonde :)
<polysics> and if I have to write them myself, I just use RSpec
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<sevenseacat> freakcult: no, he probably still wont.
<polysics> I have recently started using Capybara/Webkit integration testing
<polysics> I was a skpetic but it does catch A LOT of bugs
<freakcult> hmmm, i want to figure out a good way to test my rack apps
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<freakcult> i am more looking for a workflow
<polysics> RSpec + Capybara
<freakcult> i just started using git :)
<polysics> the two are not really related
<freakcult> so where to go from here.....
<polysics> but the toolchain is usually
<polysics> git for VCS
<freakcult> yup, but i am becoming mature
<polysics> capistrano for deployment
<polysics> RSpec for testing
<freakcult> capistrano stoped though
<sevenseacat> rspec is my fave ruby tool
<polysics> RSPEC, before someone comes up with "But I use CrapTestGem because BLARGH"
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<polysics> that is one of the few things I get aggressive about, other testing frameworks are so inferior there is no point whatsoever
<freakcult> ok, cool i will buy rspec with no cucumber, but other than capistrano?
<sevenseacat> i would not use ruby if i couldnt use rspec
<polysics> so, generally speaking, git = vcs, capistrano = deployment, thin = run things, rspec = unit testing, capybara = integration testing
<freakcult> i want to use rspec with rack and sinatra and i find it difficult to start
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<polysics> first of all, Rack will mostly be transparent to you
<polysics> I build Ruby/Rails apps for a living and I deal with Rack maybe weekly
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<freakcult> i hate rails and padrino, i am only using sinatra and rack
<polysics> what are you wanting to test? can you describe a test you would like to do?
<sevenseacat> i dont think ive used rack by itself or had to deal with it at all in 3 years of ruby and rails
<freakcult> my code is config.ru where i mount and unmount rack middlewares and sinatra apps, i want to test them :)
<polysics> advice: never hate on software (unless it is minitest, then it is ok :P )
<freakcult> i used rails for 2 weeks just to know tht i will never be a rails dev, i choose the rack way
<polysics> 2 weeks? now that's a short time, it took me 1 year to come to terms with Rails :)
<polysics> reiterating, there is no "Rack way"
<polysics> Rack is just "there"
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<sevenseacat> rack isnt a framework, and rails uses rack, soooo
<polysics> sevenseacat: it comes up when mocking auth, mostly
<polysics> that's the most common case for having to actually type "Rack" in code :)
<freakcult> thats not true
<polysics> freakcult: can you describe one concrete test, in a sentence?
<freakcult> rack is like the best thing out there
<sevenseacat> lol
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<polysics> why so? and compared to what?
<freakcult> i want to mount my timeline sinatra app and test that it views my clients from the database
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<sevenseacat> have you googled using rspec to test a sinatra app? it probably wont involve rack at all.
<polysics> ok, we are getting there
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<polysics> a test case is more concrete
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<polysics> mindset first, code after
<freakcult> the rack way.. is like no generators or code that i dont understand.. but instead to actually be thoughtful about the request and response objects of your app
<polysics> TDD is really Thought Driven Development
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<polysics> freakcult: that is not a way, that is a good thing to learn but a bad way to build production apps
<polysics> people better than me and you have written Rails, Sinatra, router code, request handling and whatever else
<sevenseacat> indeed
<freakcult> not really... for instance in theory you can play with anything as long as it is passing through the doors you open and close in your middleware enviroment
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<polysics> that is why I said it is a good thing to do to learn
<freakcult> rack was inspired by python's similar project
<polysics> but it is not a good thing to use every day because it is a lot of overhead and you end up reinventing the wheel, with bugs that otehrs have already wringed out of the same problem
<freakcult> its a codebase that you will keep enhancing
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<sevenseacat> i prefer to use frameworks that abstract all that low level stuff away from me.
<polysics> still case in point: you want to test a Sinatra request to see if the HTML contains what you think it is?
<polysics> if there was a DWIM framework I would use it
<freakcult> yeah
<sevenseacat> i prefer to focus on functionality and delivering value
<freakcult> whats DWIM?
<polysics> Do What I Mean
<polysics> something where I never write code, just explain hwat I want
<freakcult> hmm, @sevenseacat, i am punk dev
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<freakcult> do i look like a dev with a plan :D
<polysics> there is no such thing
<freakcult> so whats the project i should be looking for ?
<polysics> because you have a goal, whatever the goal is
<sevenseacat> cowboy coding, my favorite. i get hired to clean up mess made by people like you.
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<polysics> I stopped doing that line of work, but it put bread on my table for a long time
<polysics> sevenseacat: you can have his projects :)
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<polysics> freakcult: can you describe one test case, please? just one?
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<freakcult> i want to get some data from the db and list it
<polysics> test cases are not "OMG tests" they are a structured sentence that will result in a specific action being checked
<polysics> let me give oyu an example
<polysics> your test would be
<polysics> in Gherkin
<polysics> As a freelance developer
<polysics> I need to see a list of my clients
<polysics> When I go to the client list page
<polysics> I should see a list of my clients
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<polysics> that is a Cuke scenario, it is useful for describing but I would not run those
<polysics> so, to test the above
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<polysics> you would need RSpec, Capybara, a database handling stack (I would advise using factories and not fixtures, like FactoryGirl, plus database_cleaner)
<polysics> the DB stack will create the test DB for you, stick some clients in it, then cleaner will remove them so each test is atomic
<polysics> you can even not use factories, jsut use a fixture, which is a static list of records
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<polysics> like, check this out, which happens to be the first Google result for what you want to accomplish
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<polysics> freakcult: can I ask if you have any experience with TDD and RSpec?
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<polysics> unfortunately the learning curve is not great, the very beginning is quite steep
<freakcult> ok, advice needed, i want not to waste time writing tests, isn't gherkin cucumber specific?
<freakcult> yeah @polysics i agree
<zendeavor> gherkin is a dialect that cucumber uses
<sevenseacat> no, gherkin is not cucumber specific
<sevenseacat> other frameworks like spinach use it as well
<polysics> I would not use Gherkin/Cucumber, I only used it above as a structured way to describe your problem
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<polysics> stick with RSpec so you learn one thing at a time
<freakcult> i want that yeah
<polysics> the above link is really good
<Boohbah> polysics: thanks for the link
<freakcult> thanks polysics, this will get me started, cheers :)
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<polysics> this is a nice long post too
* Boohbah needs to get better at testing
<polysics> no idea about content quality
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<polysics> Boohbah: I can say it has been an ongoing process for me, at some point it just "clicks"
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<polysics> for example, not more than two weeks ago I was not doing Capybara/Webkit testing, I tried adding it to a critical project and it saved my ass at elast twice
<polysics> not just avoided something small, it literally saved me from a disaster
<Boohbah> i've done Hartl's Rails tutorial but have yet to integrate testing into my own projects
<polysics> start small, unit tests on model and service layer (if you use one)
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<Boohbah> and code golf is my guilty pleasure :)
<polysics> then controller/request testing, that saves your bacons if you mess up routes :)
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<polysics> integration tests in Webkit are cool but I really only do that on critical projects, although that might change if I get faster at writing them
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<polysics> a test gains value when writing one is shorter than catching and fixing the bugs it would avoid
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<polysics> as much as I don't like that statement (derived from DHH's thoughts) it is true :)
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<platzhirsch> It's devastating how I define relative paths everytime, working great from the project directory and everything breaks if I start to invoke the scripts from other paths
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<platzhirsch> Is there a good counter approach? Include File.dirname(__FILE__) ?
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* m4dm4n hello Folks
<platzhirsch> hello m4dm4n
<m4dm4n> Excuse me, any body here that know reversing?
<m4dm4n> platzhirsch : Hello
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<m4dm4n> What's up?
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<platzhirsch> reversing what?
<m4dm4n> Reverse engineering
<m4dm4n> I know many programmers know it
<platzhirsch> That concept can be applied on different levels of abstraction
<platzhirsch> you can reverse engineer a binary, but you can also reverse engineer through reading source code
<m4dm4n> I know
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<platzhirsch> so what are you aiming at?
<m4dm4n> My mean is binary
<m4dm4n> Malware
<platzhirsch> And you want to reverse engineer Ruby bytecode?
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<m4dm4n> maybe
<m4dm4n> Are you a rubist?
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<platzhirsch> I once wanted to reverse engineer a malware file I accidently executed
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<platzhirsch> I did go with formatting my hard drive
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<m4dm4n> Shit
<platzhirsch> m4m4n: I hope so
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<platzhirsch> there is a channel on freenode where they have a bit more expertise in this topic
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<m4dm4n> Can I send Pm?
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<platzhirsch> sure, go ahead
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<Mon_Ouie> platzhirsch: for using require or just for files that you load in general?
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<Mon_Ouie> Generally you'd get the right path with something like File.expand_path(file, File.dirname(__FILE__))
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<apeiros> or File.expand_path("../#{file}", __FILE__)
* apeiros brb
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<srji> i'm looking for a easy-to-use, small wiki programmed in ruby
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<zets> srji: try looking into refinery
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<srji> zets: do u mean refinery CMS?
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<zets> srji: there's a wiki built into it iirc. There's probably something simpler out there, actually
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<srji> i will SoyWiki give a try
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<platzhirsch> Mon_Ouie: okay, thank.s I implemented it as apeiros has suggested it
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<xeon> is the ruby Open class concept a good idea? Doesn't it code more complex as programmers can't expect methods that are added on a class on-the-fly?
<xeon> and difficult to reuse a snippet in a different project?
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<apeiros> it is a good idea. use it and learn to love it.
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<apeiros> it's a bad idea trying to babysit programmers.
<apeiros> if somebody wants to shoot his foot, he will. no amount of babysitting will stop him.
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<xeon> that's right but how do you reuse a snippet if it assumes basic classes are reopened and new methods are added to them?
<edudx> Well, I don't want start a discuss about which language is better. But I'll write about Pen Test and Forensic Analysis. For this purpose, Which Language have more suport to write scripts (like a port scanner, sniffer..) Python or Ruby ?
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<apeiros> xeon: what's your issue with it?
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<apeiros> edudx: metasploit?
<edudx> apeiros too, because i'll write my own scripts
<postmodern> edudx, also checkout ronin http://ronin-ruby.github.com/
<apeiros> edudx: also, if you explicitly *don't* want to discuss A vs. B, then *don't* ask that way.
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<apeiros> ask instead "what does ruby have to offer wrt X"
<xeon> apeiros: let's say I want to copy and paste a function definition that contains someVar.even? where someVar is an Integer. The code inside the function assumes that the Integer class is reopened and the even? method is added, Which means I can't directly copy and paste the code to a different project...
<apeiros> and take your own conclusions from that
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<xeon> aperios: I forgot to mention I'm new to ruby
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<apeiros> xeon: in that case it's simply a bad code example
<apeiros> and that's unrelated to being able to reopen classes
<apeiros> if you don't show prerequisites, you make a bad example
<apeiros> take C - if you don't tell which headers to include, you can't copy & paste code either.
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<edudx> apeiros Thank you, sorry for the way that I ask
<apeiros> edudx: no worries. just showing you an alternative.
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<xeon> so new methods should be added just before they are used? - to explicitly show which `even?` we are using?
<edudx> apeiros ok
<xeon> I apologize if my question is to naive
<xeon> *too
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<apeiros> xeon: if you make an example, you list the prerequisites for that example to work
<apeiros> how you do that depends on the specifics of a) your example and b) your prerequisites
<apeiros> xeon: but I think you overestimate how often existing classes are being extended.
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<apeiros> or lets use the term 'amended', since 'extend' has its own meaning in ruby.
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<xeon> okay, can you give a few examples where amending has been very valuable
<xeon> ....
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<apeiros> define 'very valuable'
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<apeiros> I've added things like creating structs from hashes, or converting strings to plain ascii
<postmodern> also should mention that writing exploits is not very difficult in _any_ language
<apeiros> or added functionality to gems which was missing
<postmodern> the majority of complexity in exploits is mimicing protocols or file formats to trigger them
<xeon> great! I think I am wrapping my head around it. I had the wrong concerns.
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<xeon> which book helped to to master ruby?
<apeiros> xeon: also Integer#even? and #odd? are in core ruby
<xeon> or project in github?
<apeiros> none. I used irc.
<xeon> yeah right
<xeon> faving this channel
<postmodern> xeon, start with legant ruby
<apeiros> eloquent ruby?
<postmodern> xeon, also test a lot in irb and ask questions here
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<xeon> great. Is rails discussed on this channel too
<apeiros> no
<apeiros> #rubyonrails exists for that purpose
<xeon> yeah sure
<xeon> thanks guys
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<postmodern> xeon, check http://reddit.com/r/ruby for links to books
<xeon> okay will do now
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<arA> hi
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<Guest95749> how can I delete the first tab characteres in a string. Something like strip but with tab. Thank you
<MrZYX> >> "\t".strip
<eval-in> MrZYX => "" (https://eval.in/44946)
<MrZYX> Guest95749: ^ as you can see strip does remove tabs
<Guest95749> MrZYX: ah thanks. then something strange happens with one of my strings
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<Guest95749> just another question I'm doing a regex to get the lines that starts with a number. I have this: if line == /^[0-9]/
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<Guest95749> but It does not get it
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<MrZYX> the match operator is =~
<Guest95749> ah you're right thanks
<MrZYX> also you can write \d for [0-9]
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<Guest95749> MrZYX: I understand, and if I want to get the lines that cotains *. How can I scape it ?
<MrZYX> with the escape character '\': \*
<Guest95749> nice! really appreciate MrZYX
<MrZYX> do you try to parse markdown lists or....?
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<Morrolan> Say, what exactly is http://www.modruby.net/ ?
<Morrolan> (Part of the Chanserv entry message)
<apeiros> obsolete message. can't change it.
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<apeiros> modruby was an apache plugin, similar to modphp. but nowadays you'd use anything rack based. with apache, that'd be passenger.
<Morrolan> Ah, I see.
<Morrolan> Domain seems to have expired?
<Xeago> apeiros: how come you can't change it?
<apeiros> Xeago: don't have the privileges
<Xeago> but chanserv is not in this channel
<Xeago> +t only requires op, doesn't it?
<Morrolan> You can register a channel with CS without having it sit in the channel.
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<apeiros> that's topic
<Xeago> aha
<apeiros> I can set the topic, but I can't change the entry message
<Xeago> sorry
<Morrolan> (Having an instance of CS in a channel is actually the exception)
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<Xeago> so fflush needs to change that?
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<apeiros> correct
<apeiros> or grant me the privileges
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<apeiros> too bad this is what nickserv says:
<apeiros> 17:17 NickServ: Last seen : Feb 13 19:19:55 2013 (27 weeks, 3 days, 19:58:00 ago)
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<Morrolan> How is Freenode's account expiry delay?
<Morrolan> Might just be able to take over if he stays gone for another few weeks. ;)
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<Morrolan> Eh, "We consider IRC nicks expired after they have not been used for 10 weeks plus (at staffer discretion) one additional week per full year of registration, up to a maximum of five additional weeks.", but also "Nicks which are considered expired are not dropped automatically on a regular basis"
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<lotherk> is there a way in ruby to open a file as a stream and wait for new input being written to the file?
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<AzizLight> Hi everybody
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<AzizLight> Is there a way to make a keyword argument required?
<MrZYX> I think that's coming in ruby 2.1
<shevy> hmm...
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<AzizLight> so the answer is "not for now"?
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<platzhirsch> wow, doing data processing on a 1 GB RAM (512 MB Swap) machine is really sucky
<MrZYX> AzizLight: you could just raise ArgumentError on your own for now
<shevy> platzhirsch are you still stuck in the year 1995
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<platzhirsch> shevy: I rented a VPS
<AzizLight> MrZYX: yeah I know, I was just wondering if there was a cleaner alternative
<shevy> hehe
<platzhirsch> ^^
<AzizLight> MrZYX: anyway, thanks for the help ;)
<shevy> I am a little bored right now
<shevy> I have to rewrite one old .rb file ...
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<wildekek> I'm working on a product pitch and I'd like to have you feedback. "Making Agile Easy". Could you tell me what this can do for you based on the description above? Would be really appreciated.
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<shevy> the words insinuate that agile is difficult
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<quazimodo> my_method(foo, butt, zed) and i want to pass it ["foo arg", "butt arg", "zed arg"]
<quazimodo> any way more simple than my_method arry[0], arry[1], arry[2]
<quazimodo> ?
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<MrZYX> splat: my_method(*array)
<quazimodo> o ya?
<MrZYX> yup
<quazimodo> why does that work
<MrZYX> language feature
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<quazimodo> HERMMMM
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<quazimodo> useful
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<Mon_Ouie> It also works with things that respond_to? :to_a
<Mon_Ouie> e.g. foo(*1..20)
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<Orxata_> hi pals
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<RubNoob> anyone know the workflow/API calls to capture an auth key for someone's PayPal account (i.e. so I can make payments to them using chained payments at a later date)?
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<Ericx2x> Is this just ruby or is it also ruby on rails?
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<MrZYX> just ruby, rails goes to #rubyonrails
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<Ericx2x> thanks
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<Orxata_> nostromo
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<dweeb> I have a method like this: def notified; update(notified_at: Time.now); end. And I wanna name it with a trailing bang symbol but it's against the ruby guidelines?
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<MrZYX> core follows the principle of only adding the bang if there's a (less dangerous) non-bang version
<MrZYX> like .gsub which returns a a modified copy and .gsub! which modifies the receiver
<dweeb> MrZYX and in my case there is not, but I remember seeing methods with bang a lot without an equivalent non-bang
<MrZYX> yes, many use it to denote a kind of "danger"
<MrZYX> I like core's convention. For example there's the quite dangerous .replace which isn't .replace! because two versions of it won't make any sense
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<dweeb> MrZYX: hmm, okay. Sometimes I feel it makes sense to have a bang method without a non-bang. But I guess its better to follow ruby core convetions
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<llalonde> Hello, can one ask a question here about Ruby programming… or is this a developer channel?
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<popl> llalonde: shoot
<popl> llalonde: there's a pastebin URL in the /topic if you want to show some code.
<popl> (we prefer the one in the topic)
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<Orxata_> I am sick and tired of facebook, twitter, instagram and all that crap
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<shevy> \o/
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<llalonde> Yeah I closed my Facebook account… but I think I'll have to get back on… my kids are using it ;-) Just to they don't do something stupid they'll regret later ;-)
<banisterfiend> llalonde why're you suddenly talking about Facebook? :)
<Orxata_> for example...?
<llalonde> Responded to Orxata_
<Orxata_> :)
<banisterfiend> llalonde what was your question?
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<llalonde> Well I want to assign a 'self.site' inside a class to a string variable… How does one do that? Sorry for the ignorance… I'm used to using Perl
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<llalonde> self.site = #{project_url}
<llalonde> doesn't work...
<Orxata_> I've no idea, but have you tried to extend the String class?
<popl> Orxata_: If you don't have anything useful to say…
<llalonde> tried single/double quotes too
<Orxata_> yep, better be quiet
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<apeiros> llalonde: self.site = project_url
<apeiros> #{} is for within string literals
<apeiros> e.g. "one plus one is #{1+1}"
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<apeiros> if you explicitly want to convert the value referenced by project_url to a String, then most classes provide a .to_s method
<apeiros> --> self.site = project_url.to_s
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<popl> apeiros++
Companion is now known as companion
<llalonde> ok thanks… I'll try that out
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<llalonde> Doesn't work: `<class:Membership>': undefined local variable or method `project_url' for Membership:Class (NameError)
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<apeiros> llalonde: well, your problem is different then from what you said
<apeiros> you don't *have* a variable named `project_url`
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<apeiros> (and the exception actually tells you that)
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<llalonde> apeiros: I do… but it's outside the class def
<popl> llalonde: there's a pastebin URL in the /topic if you'd like to share code.
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<llalonde> popl: Ok, I'll try that...
<apeiros> llalonde: that's equivalent to "I don't"
<apeiros> you can't use a *local* variable wherever you want
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<apeiros> that's why it's called *local* ;-)
<Xeago> blaargh, adding e-mail notifications for a complex state system is annoying
<apeiros> llalonde: Membership.site = project_url
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<apeiros> in a place where project_url actually exists
<Xeago> why do I have to work sunday night around 11pm
<apeiros> Xeago: use something like acts_as_state_machine?
<Xeago> /rant
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<Xeago> states cross multiple models
<yannickoo> hey guys, can anybody help me to solve this error here? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PeDWefb
<popl> yannickoo: what's the error?
<apeiros> Xeago: extract the state into a separate model
<shevy> yannickoo I guess you must use crippled debian ruby
<Xeago> but that would have been helpful for controlling the states, but not for acting upon events
<shevy> yannickoo you can somehow use apt-get to decripple it again
<yannickoo> shevy: command was: sudo gem install charlock_holmes --version '0.6.9.4'
<Xeago> if only I knew before it came this complex, it was this compelx..
<apeiros> yannickoo: I'd like to ask you in #debian or wherever apt-get has its home
<apeiros> they create this mess, they should solve it
<yannickoo> apeiros: why? mkmf is missing.
<apeiros> yannickoo: because it's missing because of apt
<Xeago> yannickoo: mkmf is in ruby-dev package
<apeiros> a sane ruby installation has mkmf
<shevy> yannickoo the charlock_holmes gem has not the problem, the problem is that debian crippled your ruby, try apt-get install ruby1.8-dev or whatever name they gave, and also tell the debian developers that they are idiots for crippling things
<Xeago> I discourage installing ruby with apt..
<apeiros> apt choses to put the burden on the user to know which packages he really needs when he wants "ruby"
<yannickoo> Xeago: i am running ruby1.9-dev
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<apeiros> (it also chooses to apply insane patches on rubygems and others)
<shevy> yannickoo, you already did "apt-get install ruby1.9-dev" and still miss mkmf?
<shevy> Xeago yeah... and especially gems... I wonder what debian tells it users... "Do not install any gems"
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<yannickoo> shevy: Xeago oh, seems that http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kckibETE didn't install ruby1.9-dev
<apeiros> why would anybody use gems? that's what apt is there for *eyeroll*
<popl> so you didn't install ruby1.9-dev?
<popl> so install ruby1.9-dev
<shevy> hehe
<yannickoo> popl: seems like not... can i just do a apt-get install ruby1.9-dev?
<yannickoo> #fail :D
<shevy> I think they just hate alternatives to apt-get
<popl> I used Debian for about a year before my rage built up enough and I switched back to Slackware.
<shevy> yannickoo I think so, try it, then start "irb" and try: require 'mkmf'
<popl> I even bought a goddamned Debian t-shirt..
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<popl> s/\.//
<shevy> hehehe
<llalonde> apeiros: 'Membership.site = project_url' worked… thanks!
<yannickoo> popl: chould i remove ruby1.9.1 after installed ruby1.9.1-dev?
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<popl> yannickoo: ask in #debian
<popl> I don't think so, though.
<popl> you need everything because it's parceled out
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<shevy> yannickoo does debian still not allow you to run multiple versions side by side?
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<lotherk> why not just rvm?
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<llalonde> bye and thanks for the help!
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<yoshie902a> Are there tools/gems to log/monitor http requests? I'm using a gem "ruby-refs" that is using net/https and I am trying to figure out what it's posting
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<yoshie902a> or getting, etc
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<yoshie902a> I found net-http-spy, seems to provide the feedback I need.
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<rhys> "other public logging is prohibited"
<rhys> lol?
<popl> rhys: many channels on freenode have a policy about no public logging.
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<Buuyo> is there a good ruby lib out there with a bunch of directed network ranking algorithms already implemented?
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<mydog2> anyone here in the louisville/ky area?
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<yoshie902a> rhys: If the public logging comment was directed to me. It's not public and I'm only using it to see the uri posted by the gem to debug.
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<scottstamp> I'm writing a simple little app to crawl and download images from a site, I was wondering if there was a way to asynchronously download the images? It'd really speed up the process.
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<scottstamp> Never mind, just learned the magical powers of Thread.new. Lol
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<stack> hello! what is the most popular job/queue manager (a la celery for python/django) available for ruby?