apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.2.0; 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p598; 1.9.3-p551: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com
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<Creeves> !seen zenChild
<Creeves> aw
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<buke> is this the place for a newbie to troubleshoot ruby code?
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<godd2> Buke we do our best to help out. What's your question?
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<buke> I'm goofing around with writing a script to encrypt files using the rbnacl gem. I require the gem in my 'encrypt.rb' file and when I run it I a get a whole slew of errors.
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<womble> Buke: Your code, and the errors, in a gist, would be helpful.
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<buke> The script doesn't do anything yet, obviously.
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<buke> no takers?
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<weaksauce> Buke you've commented out pretty much everything interesting in the code
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<buke> Before actually writing any code I want to make sure that I can actually get rbnacl to work. As it just requiring the gem results in those errors. Does anyone have any idea of what's wrong? I've been through a bunch of different attempts to fix it but I'm brand new at this so maybe it's something simple...
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<matlads> Hello. I have got an interactive makefile thats asks me to press enter when I run 'make'. I want to pipe /bin/true to this in my ruby file. Question is: how do I do this?
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<[spoiler]> morning
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<tobiasvl> top o'the mornin' to you [spoiler]
<[spoiler]> :D
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<darix> when [spoiler] is done with his work he will write the documentation for mruby ;)
<[spoiler]> darix, I actually thought about that
<[spoiler]> w/ examples!
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<[spoiler]> darix, it's not *much* different from MRI's C API
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<ljarvis> moin
<ljarvis> fuck i hate makefiles
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<[spoiler]> ljarvis, lol, I know how you feel
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<evil1337> hello
<evil1337> how to c
<evil1337> create lists in ruby
<tobiasvl> evil1337: arrays?
<zenspider> evil1337: what have you tried? what have you read so far?
<evil1337> im going to implement CPM algorithm
<evil1337> i already have a code in C#
<zenspider> not what I asked. not what tobiasvl asked.
<evil1337> and im trying to rewrite it in ruby
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<evil1337> thanks
<evil1337> thats what i was looking for
<tobiasvl> ok, it was the first hit on google for "ruby array"
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<tobiasvl> since they're called arrays in C# too (not "lists") I think you'll feel at home although some of the syntax is different
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<evil1337> and detect method will be the best way to find word in an array of objects ?
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<zenspider> I highly recommend getting a basic book on ruby and going through it first
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<evil1337> if (!list.Exists(x => x.id == id)) how to rewrite it in ruby
<evil1337> if !list.detect { |i| list[i].id == id }
<evil1337> ?
<zenspider> evil1337: unless you're paying someone, asking us to translate your code one line at a time is rather unrewarding and quite frankly, rude.
<ljarvis> evil1337: please spend some time learning Ruby before trying to simply port code, it's going to be terrible and nobody is going to do it all for you for nothing
<zenspider> YOU are supposed to be learning here, not just asking for free consultation
<evil1337> yeh ,and i do it ,i just want to know if im in good way to understand ruby
<tobiasvl> evil1337: and the answer to your question is "no", that code won't work. you shouldn't use i as an index, just as you don't use it as an index in the C# code
<tobiasvl> so not sure where you got that from
<canton7> evil1337, http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.0/Enumerable.html. Find a suitable method in there
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<zenspider> evil1337: to be "in good way", please start by reading a book or some complete tutorial
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<zenspider> come back once you have a grasp on the basic language + datatypes + enumerable. we're happy to answer questions about those as you go through the book.
<zenspider> otherwise, I'm sure any of us (incl me) are willing to take a subcontract on whatever you're working on and just port the code ourselves.
<ljarvis> im good to auction
<zenspider> is it an auction if the prices go _down_?
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<bnagy> can I bid with the understanding that my code may have deliberate bugs?
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<ljarvis> hmm good point
<zenspider> bnagy: now that's not nice :P
<ljarvis> but lets not be hasty, we haven't seen the code, maybe the prices will go up
<bnagy> well you know.. prices may go negative
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<bnagy> pretty sure there are some conditions where I'd accept negative money to have someone run my code
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<ljarvis> we're using unsigned ints only
<bnagy> itym floats surely
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<bnagy> ints are no good for moneys
<ljarvis> if you use float for money, you already have bug
<ljarvis> not sure why I said that like I was Russian
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<[spoiler]> lol
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<[spoiler]> ljarvis, I can't stop giggling at that; colleagues are staring at me
<bnagy> in soviet Russia bug have you
<mietkacy> Hi everyone! I'm about to write a regex, to check whether some suspicious pattern appear in URL. I've got a list of this patterns here https://github.com/nbs-system/naxsi/blob/master/naxsi_config/naxsi_core.rules . I would like to combine them into several objects, like direcotry_traversal_regex, xss_regex and so on, so that later on i can just check if xss_regex.match(url). How to create such regex object in elegant way? becaus
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<mietkacy> ... because for each group i can still write a long regexp, but i am not sure that its the best way to do it - or maybe im wrong?
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<bnagy> you're wrong
<bnagy> I didn't read the whole thing, tbh
<bnagy> but you said regex and URL
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<mietkacy> yes
<mietkacy> so really doing one regex with many Ors like /<|>|~|`/.match() is okay ?
<mietkacy> *ORs
<canton7> do them separately, m'kay? then you can log which one failed ;)
<mietkacy> what do you mean by 'separately' ?
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<bnagy> well my point is that you're unlikely to win this way
<bnagy> countless WAFs have tried and failed
<bnagy> it's not really tractable for regex, cause it's all irregular
<mietkacy> I am not going to write a WAF hopefully :)
<bnagy> or hey I could just say Regexp.union and you'd be happy
<bnagy> and then go on to create something stupid
<bnagy> fly, be free
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<mietkacy> So maybe another POV -> in that https://github.com/nbs-system/naxsi/blob/master/naxsi_config/naxsi_core.rules i can take a group of regex with possible XSS attacks. I would like to treat them like hash and iterate through this hash to check if they match a URI - how to do this thing?
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<mietkacy> so that I'll have a set of regular expressions with comment in form of hash
<mietkacy> then i would like to iterate through all of these regexps in hash and check if they .match(my_uri)
<mietkacy> how to implement such a thing
<mietkacy> ?
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<DefV> regexps.detect {|regexp| =~ str.match(regexp) }
<DefV> wow
<DefV> that went bad
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<DefV> regexps.detect {|regexp| str =~ regexp }
<[spoiler]> mietkacy, generally, you're better of whitelisting than balcklisting, though
<[spoiler]> blacklisting*
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<[spoiler]> There's an infinite amount of blacklistable things, and a finite amount of whitelistable ones
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<mietkacy> well, it's only my client requirement, to do some analysis
<mietkacy> there are some urls related strictly to business logic of my app
<mietkacy> which they would like to search for
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<mietkacy> i've treated this NAXSI as an example, because its really close to sty i would like to write
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<[spoiler]> Well, you could do what DefV said and adapt it to your needs
<mietkacy> definitely, I'm giving it a try now
<mietkacy> DefV -> thanks a lot!
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<[spoiler]> Also, the rule can be either a string search or a regexp pattern, from taking a glance at that rule list
<[spoiler]> make sure you use string search instead of compiling a regexp
<[spoiler]> when there's a string
<mietkacy> in my case that would be regexps only :)
<mietkacy> and totally weird ones
<[spoiler]> if you compile a string like "[idk something]" it won't behave as you'd expect it
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<mietkacy> so in case of strings matching them with =`
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<mietkacy> *with =~ will be faster than calling a regexp?
<mietkacy> i thought it calls regexp somehow deep inside
<[spoiler]> You can use String#[] to cover for all cases
<[spoiler]> There's probably very little overhead
<mietkacy> will string_of_my.include? ">" or string_of_my.include=~ ">" be faster than />/.match(string_of_my) ?
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<[spoiler]> test it. :-)
<evil1337> is there any replacement to c#'s foreach loop ?
<[spoiler]> evil1337, #each
<evil1337> k thx
<mietkacy> what do you mean by "String#[]" ? please excuse my lack lack of knowledge in ruby
<[spoiler]> like blah.each {|i| ... }
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<[spoiler]> mietkacy, you could do horribly_evil_url['>']
<[spoiler]> it will return '>' if it found the string, or nil (like null) otherwise
<ljarvis> mietkacy: if you want to know, benchmark it
<ljarvis> but im betting you shouldn't care
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<mietkacy> aah okay, I got it
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<[spoiler]> secondly, you can use horribly_evil_url[/[abc]+/]
<maloik> look up benchmark-oips
<maloik> ips*
<[spoiler]> it will return the portion of the string that matched the regexp, or nil
<mietkacy> theres so much tricks in this ruby syntax
<[spoiler]> they're not tricks
<maloik> fantastic little gem that I use from time to time to quickly test things like that
<[spoiler]> String#[] is just a method
<yorickpeterse> String#include? is actually much better for this
<yorickpeterse> String#[] will do a copy of the String matched
<yorickpeterse> So for every String#[] call you're allocating a new string
<[spoiler]> yorickpeterse, he needs the portion of the string which triggered the regexp, though
<[spoiler]> well, the rule
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<yorickpeterse> Ah, I'd just use String#match / String#scan in that case
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<yorickpeterse> String#[] always returns the first match I believe, which might not be what you want
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<[spoiler]> yep it returns the first match (unless you use [regexp, index], in which case it returns the index from the MatchData object
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<[spoiler]> yorickpeterse, some of the rules are text rules which have special regexp symbols in them, though. like [ and ]s, so you don't want them regexpified
<[spoiler]> it's a bigass list of rules (idk if you clicked it) which specifies what type of search should be used (textual or regexp)
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<yorickpeterse> I believe you can tell Regex.compile or w/e it was to treat that as literal [ and ]
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<[spoiler]> o, didn't know about that
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<evil1337> if(list.find_all{ |x| x.id == id} != nil)
<evil1337> is that correct replacement to c#'s if (!list.Exists(x => x.id == id))?
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<ljarvis> evil1337: did you try it? did it work?
<evil1337> unfortunately it doesnt work
<evil1337> and i dont know why
<yorickpeterse> evil1337: Enumerable#select is typically better for this sort of work
<yorickpeterse> >> [10, 20, 30].select { |number| number >= 20 }
<eval-in__> yorickpeterse => [20, 30] (https://eval.in/239552)
<ljarvis> evil1337: if you're not prepared to learn Ruby like everyone else has, you need to actually spend some time working on the code
<yorickpeterse> if you just want to check if a value is present:
<yorickpeterse> >> [10, 20, 30].any? { |number| number == 20 }
<eval-in__> yorickpeterse => true (https://eval.in/239553)
<yorickpeterse> >> [10, 20, 30].any? { |number| number >= 20 }
<eval-in__> yorickpeterse => true (https://eval.in/239554)
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<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: how is find_all not like select?
<yorickpeterse> derp, apparently it's an alias
<yorickpeterse> here's a great idea
<yorickpeterse> lets create a method
<yorickpeterse> and give it a fuckton of aliases
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<ljarvis> aye, ruby
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<imperator> and then make them synonyms instead of actual aliases ;)
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<yorickpeterse> ladies and gents, I present to you, method "calculate_color": https://gist.github.com/YorickPeterse/23f3d27998583b0160e2
<yorickpeterse> naturally there are no specs for it
<ljarvis> wat
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<yorickpeterse> I also found this spec file for our "Hotel" class, a really important class
<yorickpeterse> half of the specs were disabled
<yorickpeterse> "This requires too much stubbing so I'm disabling it"
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<yorickpeterse> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
<yorickpeterse> I really need an ASCII Ruby logo
<yorickpeterse> so I can table-flip it
<maloik> :D
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<oddmunds> Ruby <Z]
<imperator> hm, what's a simple ruby object that isn't comparable?
<oddmunds> nil?
<imperator> oddmunds, seems it is now: nil <=> nil returns 0
<[spoiler]> lol
<[spoiler]> yorickpeterse, you don't have enough aliases for calculate_color
<[spoiler]> it needs at least calculate_colour
<oddmunds> oh, ok. nil > nil throws nomethod
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<[spoiler]> yorickpeterse: and devise_colo[u]r and conjure_colo[u]r and and and gimme_some_colo[u]r
<yorickpeterse> heheh
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<imperator> does seem odd to me
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<[spoiler]> yorickpeterse, also, an ascii logo would be... I guess... /_\ no? no.
<[spoiler]> well upside down logo
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<yorickpeterse> Well, if UTF8 can add "Unicode pile of poop" they should be able to add a unicode Ruby symbol too
<yorickpeterse> you probably only need to pay them a few thousand dollars
<yorickpeterse> errr s/UTF8/Unicode consortium
<[spoiler]> I'm almost done w/ work, tomorrow's a day off, I don't wanna start working on anything... So, I'm bored.
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: U+1F48E
<ljarvis>
<yorickpeterse> :D :D :D
<whitequark> it's a diamond cut, but ruby in the ruby logo is actually diamond-cut too
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<yorickpeterse> ASDKJHASKDJHSAKJD my font doesn't support it
<benlovell>
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<[spoiler]> http://emoji.codes/?q=:gem:
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<yorickpeterse> Honestly I'm still surprised UTF8 includes emoji
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<yorickpeterse> lol
<yorickpeterse> so this calculate_color method isn't even used anymore
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<ljarvis> i smell a rant
<oddmunds> yorickpeterse: emoji sounds well within unicode's scope
<yorickpeterse> oddmunds: MSN has no place in a character encoding scheme
<yorickpeterse> I'm also being a tad sarcastic, I know why they put it in
<oddmunds> :)
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<yorickpeterse> oh hey, look what I found
<yorickpeterse> It's amazing how much code I can nuke by moving away from Teh Mongoz
<yorickpeterse> it's also amazing how much I'm going to break in the process
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<yorickpeterse> "ids = [followings.map(&:followed_hotel_id), (self.id if include_self)].compact.flatten"
<yorickpeterse> WHY NOT JUST USE EACH?
<yorickpeterse> ^ basically this whole application is like that
<ljarvis> told ya
<oddmunds> yorickpeterse: what are you moving towards when you are moving away from Teh Mongoz?
<yorickpeterse> something something "I'll compact.flatten your face"
<yorickpeterse> oddmunds: Postgres
<whitequark> lol
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<yorickpeterse> oh this class has a method called "find_with_handicap"
<yorickpeterse> It de-obfuscates an ID and then searches for that
<yorickpeterse> not exactly a handicap...
<yorickpeterse> also not used anywhere of course
<yorickpeterse> Been there since 2012-05-21
<yorickpeterse> def featured_reviews; ....; reviews.uniq.shuffle.first(3); end
<yorickpeterse> wow
<yorickpeterse> it's like I found some old skeleton in my closet
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<ruby-lang011> Why does this code get stuck? http://pastebin.com/nVa031KP
<ruby-lang011> Ported from python, no issue. Even ported to java and c++ no issue
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<Arctos> is there a difference between count ,size or length method in arrays?
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<yorickpeterse> Arctos: size/length are the same, count also but can be used to count specific values
<yorickpeterse> >> [10, 20, 30, 10].count
<eval-in__> yorickpeterse => 4 (https://eval.in/239586)
<yorickpeterse> >> [10, 20, 30, 10].count(10)
<eval-in__> yorickpeterse => 2 (https://eval.in/239587)
<ljarvis> Arctos: no, also count is not defined on enumerable
<ljarvis> IS
<ljarvis> defined on enumerable
<ljarvis> not array
<ljarvis> jeez
<ljarvis> Monday
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<Arctos> if i have implemented array with some structurs/objects ,how can i take a size of a part of the structure if its array
<maloik> no monday feeling for me next week, going to austria \o/
<ljarvis> also wondering if count traverses the entire collection even if block_given? #=> false
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<ljarvis> Arctos: .size is fine
<Arctos> x.array.size doesnt work
<ljarvis> wat
<ljarvis> Arctos: can you show us some code?
<Arctos> yea
<yorickpeterse> >> [10, 20].size
<eval-in__> yorickpeterse => 2 (https://eval.in/239591)
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<ljarvis> actually of course count will have to traverse all size Enumerable only cares about each()
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<ljarvis> since*
<ljarvis> so dont use count without a block i guess
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<Arctos> it should be fine
<Arctos> i hope
<Arctos> the problem is
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: not for an ARray
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: right
<yorickpeterse> Array#count has a conditional where if you don't give it an argument it basically delegates to Array#length
<Arctos> i cant take a size of poprzedniki array which is part of structure
<ljarvis> because Array redefines it i guess
<ljarvis> ya
<yorickpeterse> Yeah, they redefine #count and a bunch of other Enumerable methods for webscale
<ljarvis> Arctos: what language is that?
<yorickpeterse> Arctos: Ehm, do you have a smaller sample?
<yorickpeterse> one that's not in Polish
<ljarvis> ah
<ljarvis> but yeah, try and reproduce it will a sample
<Arctos> i will have
<Arctos> yup
<ljarvis> with
<ljarvis> giving up on life now
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<imperator> alas, poor ljarvis, we hardly knew ye
<Arctos> lista is an array with objects
<yorickpeterse> I like how injekt is still ranking higher in the IRC stats
<Arctos> i have written already a function to add objects
<Arctos> but i have no idea
<Arctos> how to get poprzedniki array's size
<yorickpeterse> Arctos: you just call "size" on it, but you have to expose it
<yorickpeterse> e.g.
<yorickpeterse> Arctos: https://eval.in/239593
<Arctos> oh i see now
<Arctos> its quiet simple
<ljarvis> well done using length to be confusing
<Arctos> im going to test it out in my algorithm
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: Array#length is the actual method
<yorickpeterse> size is an alias :P
<imperator> one of the few true aliases :)
<yorickpeterse> it gets more confusing with String
<yorickpeterse> String#length and String#size are the same
<yorickpeterse> but oh there's also String#bytesize
<ljarvis> imo String#size should be bytesize and length should be.. well, length
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<yorickpeterse> yeah
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<maloik> b
<ljarvis> c
<maloik> :(
<maloik> good thing that wasnt a password then
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<yorickpeterse> My passwords consist out of spaces, that way nobody will ever figure out what they are
<maloik> what's wrong with **** ?
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<yorickpeterse> You mean hunter2?
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<maloik> hunterZ to confuse people
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<yorickpeterse> hunter(n)
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<yorickpeterse> it's a monadic function to calculate a secure password using "hunter" as the salt
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<ljarvis> you get kickban for talking about monads around here
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<imperator> you do?
<yorickpeterse> at least I didn't say it was an endomorphic monoid producing a cryptographically secure password
* yorickpeterse is just smashing words together
<ljarvis> imperator: no i dont, because i have a wizard hat
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: funnily enough the same process occurs when i write haskell
<yorickpeterse> Does it also instantly make you 10x smarter?
<ljarvis> ya
<yorickpeterse> well fuck...perhaps these "10x" programmers all write Haskell
<ljarvis> #1 best programmer no bugs
<maloik> :D
<cout> is there a term to describe the "if __FILE__ == $0" idiom?
<yorickpeterse> Hm...I wonder if I can get a mug that says "#2 Programmer"
<yorickpeterse> and wait for people to realize the joke
* ljarvis waits
<yorickpeterse> s/realize/figure out
<bougyman> cout: s/$0/$PROGRAM_NAME/
<yorickpeterse> (off by one error, badum tsh)
<ljarvis> cout: bougyman nails it, use the english terms and it'll be self explanatory
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<cout> ljarvis: but I'm trying to use it in a sencence :)
<ljarvis> cout: "this is the file being run by the interpreter, it is not being required or loaded by another file"
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<whitequark> ljarvis: so, have you tried monads
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<cout> ljarvis: I'm not trying to document that line of code; I'm trying to refer to that idiom, except it doesn't have a name that I know of, so the most succinct term I could come up with was "a __FILE__ == $0 check"
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: I smoked them once
<cout> but that's not a very good name
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<ljarvis> whitequark: I think they gave me a bad stomach
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<whitequark> ljarvis: WHERE'S MY KICKBAN
<ljarvis> cout: "a check for if the current file is the one being run"
<ljarvis> cout: i mean srsly
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<ljarvis> whitequark: op'ing is such a task
<cout> I still don't understand why they are called monads
<Arctos> why it doesnt enter to else
<Arctos> is if ,else construct wrong or something?
<ljarvis> lol .fist
<ljarvis> that'd be a perfect method for yorickpeterse
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<yorickpeterse> wat
<imperator> cout, conditional script stanza?
<yorickpeterse> I have to focus for a bit, I'm writing tests for 4 year old code
<yorickpeterse> and half of it is a mystery to me
<ljarvis> /quit
<yorickpeterse> no
<ljarvis> Arctos: your else won't be entered if your statement is truthly, so it must be truthly
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<cout> imperator: I kinda like that
<imperator> saw it called that for the python equivalent
<imperator> though not commonly
<ljarvis> stanza :|
<imperator> costanza
<cout> imperator: doesn't really apply in the case I'm trying to describe, since the idiom isn't being used for the main stanza
<ljarvis> consuela
<imperator> dunno, guess we make one
<imperator> self-script check :)
<cout> so I went with "program name check" per bougyman's suggestion
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<imperator> works for me!
* bougyman win
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<mtk_> Hello, is there a way for this code if my_hash.detect { | k, v | mystring.match(k) } puts "Some data" end pass somehow my_hash element return by .detect method into the if block ?
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<maloik> create a gist please, reading code like that make my brain melt
<mtk_> i mean i would like to print "Some data" and key of my_hash returned by .detect method
<mtk_> sure
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<ljarvis> mtk_: if v := hash.find { |k, v| foo.match(k) } ...
<ljarvis> er = sorry
<ljarvis> lolgo
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<ljarvis> mtk_: https://eval.in/239607
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<ljarvis> v will be [key, value]
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<mtk_> if .find or detect method won't return any object, would assigment v = nil return false?
<ljarvis> mtk_: it'll return nil and thus the block will not be executed
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<ljarvis> so yeah
<ruby-lang034> Could somebody help me with this issue?
<mtk_> thanks!
<ruby-lang034> For some reason, this just outputs 2 http://pastebin.com/nVa031KP
<ruby-lang034> It works in python
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<ljarvis> ruby-lang034: it shouldn't output anything, you're not printing anything. What are we looking for?
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<ljarvis> ignore me
<Mon_Ouie> You should use local variables everywhere, not globals
<Mon_Ouie> Also line 18 will never be executed, not sure what it's supposed to be doing (and lines around it are misindented)
<ljarvis> also nop never increments, so that while will never exit
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<ljarvis> oh i see that part now
<ljarvis> man this is confusing, i can't ever tell what you're trying to do
<ruby-lang034> One minute, Ill upload the current code, thought the pastebin was newer
<ljarvis> ruby-lang034: please dont use pastebin
<ruby-lang034> Whoops sorry
<ruby-lang034> ok
<Mon_Ouie> Same thing about line 19 instead of 18 though
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<ruby-lang034> Why won't it work (New to this language, used to python/java)
<ruby-lang034> Mon_Ouie: Why won't that run?
<Mon_Ouie> Because you used "break" right before
<ruby-lang034> but the if statement?
<Mon_Ouie> What about it?
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<ruby-lang034> Wow I see now
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<mtk_> ljarvis: could you also tell my whether its good to put = in conditional? because when writing if v=nil ;puts a; end in IRB i got warning
<Arctos> why i cant connect each loop with if construction
<mtk_> "warning: found = in conditional, should be =="
<ruby-lang034> Thank you Mon_Ouie !
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<ljarvis> mtk_: that's because it's a literal, assignment in conditions is fine just dont go overboard with it. It's purely style preference though, you can assign above if you prefer
<ljarvis> >> if x = 1; x; end
<eval-in__> ljarvis => /tmp/execpad-a9ca7594c5b5/source-a9ca7594c5b5:2: warning: found = in conditional, should be == ... (https://eval.in/239609)
<ljarvis> >> if x = Object.new; x; end
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<eval-in__> ljarvis => #<Object:0x419fd06c> (https://eval.in/239610)
<mtk_> aah, cool
<mtk_> thanks!
<ljarvis> Mon_Ouie: how goes? you haven't be around for a while :)
<Arctos> i dont have idea how to put if inside each loop
<Mon_Ouie> ljarvis: Busy with uni & exams ;)
<ljarvis> Mon_Ouie: Ah, how's uni?
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<Mon_Ouie> It's fine
<Arctos> how can i use if inside each loop?
<Arctos> any examples?
<Arctos> im googling it ,can't find a sht.
<ljarvis> Arctos: https://eval.in/239611
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<Arctos> ljarvis : https://eval.in/239613
<ljarvis> Arctos: well, licznik++ isn't valid Ruby code
<Arctos> syntax error, unexpected keyword_end
<ljarvis> to increment a number, you use += 1
<Arctos> yea
<Arctos> thats true
<Arctos> i forgot about it
<ljarvis> the error tells you it's a syntax problem, so it's always worth carefully auditing to look for some syntactic issue
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<mtk_> Hello, could you tell me how to solve my next problem http://pastebin.com/3d9BZM14
<mtk_> ?
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<ljarvis> mtk_: do you actually want all matches in v?
<ljarvis> i.e not just the first find
<mtk_> yes, I need all matches
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<ljarvis> mtk_: https://eval.in/239614
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<ljarvis> you don't need to check if stuff is empty, since v.any? will return false if it's empty, and it'll be empty if stuff is empty
<mtk_> works!
<mtk_> thank you a lot!
<ljarvis> you're welcome a lot
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<ledestin> is it correct that time after daylight savings change will be ahead/behind saved time by a correct amount, because time after dst change will be in a different timezone?
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<bradland> ledestin: that question actually has multiple parts. you should store all time values as UTC, then localize to the appropriate time zone based on who/what is consuming the data.
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<bradland> to answer your question more directly, no, your time values should not “shift” after the DST change if they are stored correctly.
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<ledestin> bradland: yeah, I kinda got to that. thanks for confirming.
<bradland> the key thing to remember is that date & local time cannot be separated.
<bradland> you bet
<bradland> to share a little more, what we do is examine the submitted date/time and determine the localized UTC offset *for the given date*
<bradland> that last bit is the important part
<ledestin> does Ruby notice timezone change on dst?
<bradland> lemme check some docs
<bradland> what version of Ruby are you using?
<ledestin> 2.1
<bradland> yes, the core Time class supports time zones
<bradland> remember that DST is a localization concern
<bradland> internally, everything should be UTC
<ledestin> that’s cool
<bradland> see Time#zone and Time#dst?
<bradland> one thing that people often get wrong is that they check the *current* localized UTC offset
<bradland> that’s a mistake
<bradland> if someone sends you a date, 2015-06-21 10:00 Eastern Time, what’s the appropriate UTC value? should you use -05:00 or -04:00?
<bradland> the date provided is after the DST shift for 2015, so you should use -04:00.
<bradland> if you use Ruby’s built in tools for creating the date with a time zone, you can simply call Time#utc and store that value
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<ledestin> bradland: ok, thanks. all I need is for time on my server to count 25 minute period correctly even if dst change occurs in the middle.
<bradland> yeah, relatively speaking, you can rely on ruby to account for DST correctly in those scenarios
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<bradland> >> Time.now + (25 * 60)
<eval-in__> bradland => 2015-01-05 19:15:33 +0000 (https://eval.in/239646)
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