apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.2.0; 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p598; 1.9.3-p551: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com
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<rbowlby> optparse seems mad low-level
<rbowlby> I seem to be doing a lot more low level option parsing logic with it than I am use to in python.
<rbowlby> Is there something else industry standard that I should be using?
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<apeiros> you should not be doing any parsing at all with optparse
<rbowlby> ...now that I'm half way done
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<apeiros> you define what flags it accepts, what it does with them and that's about it
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<rbowlby> so, as an example I'm use to being able to say that a certain arg is required
<rbowlby> it's absence will call the help method in python
<rbowlby> I'm writing that out myself in optparse
<rbowlby> am I doing it wrong?
<apeiros> there are libraries which have easier, or more concise ways to do those two tasks. but parsing is not something you have to do with any.
<rbowlby> if options[:someopt] == nil; do some stuff I would expect to be handled for me
<rbowlby> I'm almost done so I
<rbowlby> will suck it and just keep going.
<apeiros> I haven't used optparse in a long time, but iirc using an optparse exe wrong will show the help too
<apeiros> and you can define opts to be required
* apeiros afk
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<ljarvis> rbowlby: there an option parser called slop that i hear is kinda good
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<epitron> +1 for slop
<epitron> although the README needs work ;)
<ljarvis> epitron: open to PRs!
<ljarvis> epitron: also, since v4? (couple weeks ago) it was overhauled
<epitron> i don't know if i have the skill necessary to do that
<rbowlby> hey wait a second..that's your option parser
<rbowlby> lol
<ljarvis> :o
<ljarvis> you got me
<ljarvis> but, it is kinda good :P
<rbowlby> fair enough, checking it out
<epitron> rbowlby: slop is very good -- pry uses it for all its internal command processing
<epitron> it's quite mature
<rbowlby> love me some pry, that's cool
<epitron> WAY better than optparse
<epitron> not everything in ruby's stdlib is great
<epitron> :)
<epitron> ruby core gets a lot of love
<epitron> some things in the stdlib languish though
<ljarvis> should be helped by the stdlib being gemified, hopefully
<[spoiler]> I used something called trollop once
<ljarvis> :O
<[spoiler]> or something along those lines
<ljarvis> sacrilege
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<epitron> dah.. the new rubygems.org design
<[spoiler]> epitron, I can't get used to it
<epitron> it's pretty horrible
<[spoiler]> I actually thought I landed on the wrong website
<epitron> it looks like a bulk food store
<epitron> it's blinding
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<ljarvis> does whoever run ruby-toolbox idle in here?
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<ljarvis> ah no
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<epitron> ruby toolbox needs work too :)
<ljarvis> i like that it has a reverse dependency graph
<epitron> yeah
<epitron> and categories
<epitron> the information structure is very good
<epitron> the site itself is really awkward though
<epitron> i mean, the way each project is displayed isn't visually coherent
<epitron> it's a bit of a mess
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<ljarvis> >> RUBY_VERSION
<eval-in> ljarvis => "2.2.0" (https://eval.in/242551)
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<BeginnerRuby> hello / Ola
<epitron> welcome!
<BeginnerRuby> you are programmer Ruby ?
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<BeginnerRuby> I'm benginner
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<BeginnerRuby> and I searching for community Ruby
<tobiasvl> well you've come to the right place
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<epitron> this is the premier community Ruby on the internets
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<epitron> i am a serious programmer Ruby
<BeginnerRuby> Good
<epitron> you might want to join #ruby however
<epitron> that channel is better for beginners
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<BeginnerRuby> I'll see, thaks
<epitron> i'll see you there
<BeginnerRuby> you already work with Ruby / Rails ?
<BeginnerRuby> I'm from brazil ^^
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<[spoiler]> epitron, are you implying we're rude to beginners? :P
<epitron> i'm stating that this place is for more advanced discussions
<epitron> i'm keeping your channel clean bro
<ljarvis> it is?
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<yorickpeterse> i r vry advanced rubby programmer
<yorickpeterse> I use lambdas everywhere instead of methods
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<[spoiler]> yorickpeterse, you also rant your problems into submission :D; if that's not advanced, I don't know what is. ~
<yorickpeterse> I'm just an 80-year-old in the body of a young hercules
<[spoiler]> Ruby: "I can't do--"; Yorick: "Bitch, you can."; Ruby: "Sigh, ok."
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<bnagy> ... do you guys need some space?
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<yorickpeterse> bnagy: dunno, not sure what [spoiler] was planning on
<yorickpeterse> I hope it's not anything filthy
<[spoiler]> LOL
<bnagy> well you were bragging about your young body
<yorickpeterse> * young hercules body
<yorickpeterse> get it right
<yorickpeterse> (not Disney hercules)
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<yorickpeterse> Anybody know of a method that basically combines Array#map with Array#compact?
<yorickpeterse> Basically a map rejecting nil values
<yorickpeterse> without having to do foo.map { ... }.compact
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<[spoiler]> yorickpeterse, nope
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<yorickpeterse> Hmpf, seems there is indeed nothing for this
<yorickpeterse> meh
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<yorickpeterse> Ah well, each + if it is then
<benlovell> yorickpeterse: #compact_map would be nice.
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<yorickpeterse> hmmm
<benlovell> that's my response to most things on the tracker.
<yorickpeterse> heh
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<[spoiler]> benlovell, ngl I also like the idea of just #compact accepting a block
<ljarvis> i dont think that makes sense
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<[spoiler]> #map {|i| i.might_return_nil } [ val, nil, nil, val ] versus #compact {|i| i.might_return_nil } [ val, val ]
<benlovell> #compact accepting a block? yeah me either.
<ljarvis> lets just add list comprehensions
<[spoiler]> compact_map is nicer though
<ljarvis> and call it a day
<benlovell> yah
<benlovell> comprehende
<ljarvis>
<ljarvis> [x + 1 for x in y if x] # done, go home
* yorickpeterse slaps ljarvis and starts getting carried away
<benlovell> wikipedia got your back yo
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<benlovell> all my best codes come straight outta wikipedia
<workmad3> compact with a block == reject, surely?
<workmad3> (or select :) )
<ljarvis> that's why it makes no sense
<[spoiler]> oh good point
<yorickpeterse> Not entirely
<yorickpeterse> "select" merely selects values, it doesn't return whatever the block produces
<yorickpeterse> e.g. I'd want something like this:
<yorickpeterse> [user1, user2, user3].map_compact_whatever { |user| user.preferred_text_editor }
<ljarvis> [ x + 1 | x <- y, !x.nil? ]
<workmad3> yorickpeterse: I'd expect compact with a block to do that too... compact_map on the other hand should be what you're suggesting
<yorickpeterse> which would then ignore nil values
<workmad3> similar to flat_map
<ljarvis> yeah, you just suggested compact_map again
<benlovell> :)
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<ljarvis> gg
<yorickpeterse> oh wait, I missed this was about the compact block part
<benlovell> this is why we can't have nice things
<ljarvis> and rage in 3.. 2..
<workmad3> :D
<benlovell> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)
<[spoiler]> LOL
<yorickpeterse> hey that one is mine
<ljarvis> [ x * y | x <- [1..10], x != 5, y <- [0..], y / 2 < 100 - x]
<ljarvis> get at me
* ljarvis bashes keyboard some more
<[spoiler]> that looks ood
<workmad3> def compact_map(&blk); result = []; each{|i| r = yield(i); result << r if r; end; result; end; <-- there you go ;)
<benlovell> the life of a scala hacker
<ljarvis> I loved scala, but there were too many ways to do one thing and they all varied a lot in performance
<ljarvis> so everytime I asked someone in the irc channel i wanted to tear my hair our
<benlovell> how many ways can one overload an operator
<workmad3> should probably have done it as an enumerator... but I still need to look up every time I write one of them :)
<ljarvis> "swap that character around and it will be 972% faster"
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<benlovell> legit scala language design discussion: 'this operator is only used for 15 different things, lets add some more'
<ljarvis> i ended up noping out of there
<ljarvis> aye
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<workmad3> benlovell: one operator to rule them all...
<[spoiler]> that's why I couldn't be arsed with scala
<benlovell> the thunderdome principal
<benlovell> two operators in, one operator out
<ljarvis> it's powerful, but i can open an editor and basically type whatever i want and scala will run it
<workmad3> benlovell: I was thinking more of sauron operators :)
<benlovell> :D
<yorickpeterse> Java 8 is totes going to whipe the floor with Scala
<ljarvis> dem closures
<workmad3> ljarvis: scala, the new perl?
<ljarvis> workmad3: i am a huge perl fan :>
<yorickpeterse> I think Perl 6 will actually be released this year (speaking of which)
<workmad3> ljarvis: although in my experience it'll run... but it'll produce a type error :)
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<ljarvis> anyway everyone uses go so who cares
<yorickpeterse> but dem generics
<benlovell> go generate your generics
<ljarvis> you mean go generate hundreds of lines of lol
<benlovell> same thing
<ljarvis> anyway who needs generics when it might make your compile times 0.0023 seconds slower
<[spoiler]> lmao
<yorickpeterse> bro just use traits
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<yorickpeterse> weeee, just before lunch I managed to wrap up my code that I wanted to wrap up
<yorickpeterse> dat xml chewing
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<workmad3> ljarvis: I quite like the research on generics regarding programmer performance :)
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<ljarvis> workmad3: what research is that?
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<workmad3> ljarvis: I'd need to dig out the papers... but in summary, generics seem to be horrendous to performance when writing them... but awesome for performance when using them
<[spoiler]> Today is such a today
<[spoiler]> Uh I mean today is such a "I wanna go home day"
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<ljarvis> workmad3: that's understandable, although compared to writing all of the extra code necessary to handle different types seem bad for performance also
<workmad3> ljarvis: so the poor person writing a generic class is going to churn out code slowly... but anyone then using that class will get decent performance boosts
<workmad3> ljarvis: programmer performance, not program performance :)
<ljarvis> that's what I mean
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<ljarvis> i dont understand why writing a generic class is going to churn out code slowly
<ljarvis> surely writing duplicate code to handle different types is going to be slower
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<workmad3> ljarvis: just the effort of keeping an abstract type in your head while writing code
<ljarvis> workmad3: i've never considered that difficult
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<ljarvis> it's massively dependent on the syntax, of course
<ljarvis> java generics are so easy to comprehend
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<workmad3> I'll try to dig out the papers (hopefully they're not behind a paywall)
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<[spoiler]> C++ generics are an annoying bug in the arse if you ask me
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<[spoiler]> they're easy enough unless you're writing a library
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<workmad3> ljarvis: ok, so here's the paper if you happen to have an ACM subscription: https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2509528
<ljarvis> i don't, but thanks
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<workmad3> ljarvis: the paper gives a bit more context over the summary I'd encountered previously... most of that is in the abstract you get for free though :)
<workmad3> (I love university VPN connections :) )
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<workmad3> ljarvis: it wouldn't surprise me if exposure to generics reduces the costs of them too... that would be an interesting question to ask :)
<workmad3> ljarvis: running a similar set of tasks to the one in that paper, but examining the timings with respect to a pre-study questionaire asking participants to rank their familiarity with generics
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<ljarvis> workmad3: are we assuming our subjects are uni students that are just learning? I think experience of building a read world libary that uses generics is enough to "grok" them, or maybe people should be exposed to building a lot of code without them to soak in the benefits. They could write Go ;)
<ljarvis> closing nokogiri issues like a bawse
<workmad3> ljarvis: no, not assuming that... I'd expect that study to gather participants from several levels of expertise
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<ljarvis> I'd hope so
<workmad3> ljarvis: I'd want some uni students at one end though, and some people like yourself at the other :)
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<workmad3> ljarvis: the point is to see how much benefit you get from different amounts of exposure to generics after all ;)
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<workmad3> not that I'm planning on running such a study... but it would be an interesting one, I reckon
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<ljarvis> I concur
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<workmad3> time for lunch now though... eat, read about black holes and ponder how I'm going to approach my next task :)
<ljarvis> im gonna close nokogiri issues until someone yells at me
<workmad3> :D
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<ljarvis> heeehh
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: lol
<yorickpeterse> "What's a benchmark?"
<yorickpeterse> I'm 99% sure that pull-request is going to do very little to speed things up
<ljarvis> yarly
<[spoiler]> Aw
<[spoiler]> but that pull request is cute
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<ljarvis> i dont have a problem with merging stuff like this. The problem is when the next guy comes along with a benchmark that shows block.call being faster over 11 million iterations and asks to change it
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: "Do you have a benchmark for this?"
<yorickpeterse> Although I guess the answer will be unsurprising
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<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: they have one in their description
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<ljarvis> apparently block.call is 4x slower
<yorickpeterse> I meant in the context of Nokogiri
<ljarvis> right yeah
<yorickpeterse> Yes, yield is faster compared to a bare Proc#call
<yorickpeterse> but that's like saying fib is faster than hello world
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<yorickpeterse> hngngngngn 5 more days and then our almost 4 year old sentiment stack will be kicked out of the door
<yorickpeterse> also 5 more days until I either am very happy, or have to look for a new job for fucking everything up
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<ljarvis> god damn osx and java never playing happy
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<ljarvis> [ERROR] javac: invalid target release: 1.7
<ljarvis> tnx
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<[spoiler]> I don't even
<[spoiler]> understand that error
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<ljarvis> it's a maven build error, probably because im using the apple vendored java
<[spoiler]> teeheheheh
<surrounder> :D
<yorickpeterse> That font annoys me
<yorickpeterse> Arial Black has like...no valid use cases
<yorickpeterse> clearly should use Helvetica everywhere
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<ljarvis> java control panel shows java 1.8, terminal shows 1.6, i want 1.7
<[spoiler]> ljarvis, watch out, oracle might sue you for typing their version numbers
<[spoiler]> http://i.imgist.com/1_2sgz4h.jpg what the fuck (sorry if I'm being random guys, I'll shut up if you want me to)
<ljarvis> ah i didn't use java_home to set JAVA_HOME
<ljarvis> how intuitive
<ljarvis> ok i give up, sorry jruby
<[spoiler]> Omg am I horrible for laughing at this http://i.imgist.com/1_2sgpfh.jpg ?
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<workmad3> [spoiler]: mmm, chocolate dove
<workmad3> (or whatever that bird is)
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<workmad3> [spoiler]: and I chuckled at it too... but I'm well known to be evil and horrible :)
<headius> ljarvis: what's the problem?
<[spoiler]> headius, java versioning
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<headius> on what platform?
<ljarvis> headius: not specific to jruby, just ranting at osx because it hates that im trying to install an older java platform
<headius> OS X made JVM installs totally screwy :-(
<ljarvis> yep
<ljarvis> can I build jruby on java 8?
<ljarvis> oh nice
<headius> source that and you have a pickjdk command that sets up PATH and JAVA_HOME for you
<headius> and yes, jruby 1.7.x can build on 6, 7, 8
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<ljarvis> ok, i got a build error regarding the platform when i ran maven so assumed the platform was wrong
<headius> that's some OS X thing I see too :\
<headius> running without pickjdk works fine but for some reason building doesn't
<ljarvis> heh
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<ljarvis> /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/ :|
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<[spoiler]> damn this is useful http://i.imgist.com/1_2sgr2g.gif
<canton7> ...notice how he's very carefuly to not move too far in any direction :P
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<[spoiler]> god damn does this mean I am depressed http://i.imgist.com/1_2sggoc.jpg
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<[spoiler]> why does your dick go cold when you're feeling contempt, though
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<ljarvis> [spoiler]: im up for being off topic in here, but lets not fill it with stuff people might find offensive
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<[spoiler]> oh right sorry
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<yorickpeterse> I'm so not clicking that link
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<ljarvis> the link is fine, i was referring to the comment
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<[spoiler]> :( Sorry
<[spoiler]> the link is safe-for-work
<[spoiler]> I apologise if it offended anyone
<[spoiler]> s/is/I
<[spoiler]> ahit
<[spoiler]> oh come on... s/it/I
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<yorickpeterse> From the frontline:
<yorickpeterse> params["action"] == "show" && item.class.name =~ /Review/
<yorickpeterse> ._.
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<ljarvis> wonderful
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<hotpancakes> I'm trying to get more comfortable with ruby. Could anyone recommend any particularly good gems whose source is clear, concise, and that I could understand in a day's time?
<wprice> hotpancakes: why not trying reading the core API to start?
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<|jemc|> wprice: heh - because he's looking for clean and clear
* |jemc| runs
<hotpancakes> wprice: do you just mean reading the docs, or looking at source?
<wprice> hotpancakes: the source and doc
<wprice> hotpancakes: it’s what I do
<ljarvis> |jemc| is quite right...
<hotpancakes> wprice: how much is actually written in ruby vs C? (you can tell I'm new to this)
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<|jemc|> yorickpeterse - I hope you don't mind that I borrowed your "/me runs" gimick
<wprice> hotpancakes: problem with reading gems, you never really know if a gem is a good example of Ruby, with core your at least relatively assured that it’s probably good Ruby code
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<ljarvis> ...
<ljarvis> wat?
<havenwood> hotpancakes: In the reference implementation there's a lot of C. Other implementations of Ruby have more Ruby. There's more than one Ruby.
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<|jemc|> wprice: I disagree with that pretty strongly
<wprice> hotpancakes: I am too for the most part. All you need to do is just look for *.rb files in the lib directory of your Ruby distribution
<wprice> |jemc|: imagine that
<ljarvis> yeah seriously, a lot of code in Ruby core and stdlib is really bad ruby
<wprice> ok, good to know
<hotpancakes> wprice: thanks for the advice, but I think I'd prefer to stick to a small, nicely-written gem.
<|jemc|> wprice: do I have some kind of reputation for disagreeing with you?
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<wprice> |jemc|: no, just been that type of day, wasn’t personal, mea culpa if you took it that way
<ljarvis> hotpancakes: try this https://github.com/leejarvis/slop
<havenwood> ljarvis: \o/
<|jemc|> price: no worries
<|jemc|> *wprice
<ljarvis> :>
<wprice> hotpancakes: I’ve been reading the code for the redis 3.2.0 gem, it seems pretty good
<wprice> hotpancakes: but again, I’m new enough to where I probably am not the best person to talk to
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<hotpancakes> ljarvis: thanks!
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<ljarvis> redis.rb source is pretty decent
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<ljarvis> if I remember rightly
<wprice> hotpancakes: that Koans project thing is pretty good if your just starting out
<ljarvis> hotpancakes: no worries, if anything looks weird/is weird/prompts questions, feel free to ask the author
<ljarvis> he's a standup guy
<wprice> hotpancakes: at least I found it useful
<|jemc|> hotpancakes: reading gems is a great way to learn - especially gems that you use or are relevant to your work
<havenwood> |jemc|: agreed
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<hotpancakes> thanks guys, I'm off to read some ruby
<|jemc|> good luck :)
<hotpancakes> ljarvis: and I may just take you up on that offer
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<hotpancakes> ljarvis: this may sound ridiculous, but could you tell me how/why something like Slop would be used?
<centrx> hotpancakes, command-line argument handling that's better than OptionParser
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<hotpancakes> centrx: thanks. I'm at the point where I comprehend the mechanics of the code pieces, but I'm still a bit lost at the cohesive whole...
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<ljarvis> hotpancakes: it's a good idea to start building something you want to build, and then deciding what external dependencies you need to bring it, and then go through the source code for them if you're interested. Otherwise not knowing what the tool does is a bit of a blocker
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<bitflipping> val = 0, Fiddle::to_ptr(val) is giving me a null pointer? any suggestions?
<|jemc|> bitflipping: what do you expect it to give you?
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<bitflipping> the underlying pointer for ruby object val and return it as a Fiddle::Pointer object.
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<bitflipping> its actually segfaulting if val has non-zero values
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<|jemc|> I don't use fiddle, but looking at the code, it just uses NUM2PTR(num)
<bitflipping> nevermind, its segfaulting because I tried to put the pointer
<bitflipping> guess theres an automatic conversion in there
<bitflipping> k, the documentation is pretty misleading then haha
<bitflipping> thanks
<|jemc|> bitflipping: yeah, I'd agree the docs are misleading
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<|jemc|> but I don't use fiddle for my FFI stuff, so I may not be in its paradigm
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<bitflipping> what do you use?
<|jemc|> just FFI
<bitflipping> word
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<SkyDriver2500> Anyone here familiar with socket programming?
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<waxjar> just ask your question SkyDriver2500, if someone knows the answer they'll help :)
<SkyDriver2500> I want to know if it is possible to create a ruby script on my raspberry pi to listen for connections (page requests) on port 80 for my website? Was I clear? My English isn't the best though.
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<centrx> SkyDriver2500, Very clear
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<nofxx> SkyDriver2500, are you going to serve pages or receive data?
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<SkyDriver2500> I just want to record the IP's that connect to my webserver on port 80
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<SkyDriver2500> I tried with ruby socket but it doesn't seem to work
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<jhass> SkyDriver2500: so you already have a webserver running?
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<SkyDriver2500> yes
<jhass> how about parsing its logs?
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<SkyDriver2500> where can I find the logs?
<jhass> starting a second server on the same port won't work
<SkyDriver2500> which dir?
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<jhass> that depends on your webserver
<jhass> and its configuration
<SkyDriver2500> raspberry pi
<SkyDriver2500> debian
<SkyDriver2500> apache
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<jhass> /var/log/apache/access.log iirc
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<jhass> somewhere under /var/log at least, dig around
<SkyDriver2500> Hmm it shows ips and dates?
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<jhass> it should
<jhass> at least you can configure it to do so
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<SkyDriver2500> I'll start working on a script then thank you
<SkyDriver2500> also are you familiar with packetfu?
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<jhass> no
<jhass> but see the response to your very first message
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<SkyDriver2500> I just wanted know
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<headius> yorickpeterse: hey I'm confused about your comment on that bug
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<headius> I see Array and String setting instance variables too
<headius> in Ruby code
<headius> but those don't show up
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<yorickpeterse> headius: They are marked as "slots" in C++ I believe, which hides them from Ruby
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<yorickpeterse> but that only works if there's a corresponding C++ class/file/etc
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<headius> it seems like the issue boils down to whether psych should serialize instance vars on core yaml types when dumping
<yorickpeterse> Yes
<headius> if it should, then rbx's vars are open game
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<yorickpeterse> The assumption of "Core classes don't have instance variables" is broken
<headius> it's not assuming anything
<headius> it's just looking to see if they have instance vars and marshaling them
<headius> serializing them
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<yorickpeterse> It's doing that for Hash though. If MRI were to have ivars it would most likely trigger the same problem
<yorickpeterse> That is, this only works on MRI because it hides things
<yorickpeterse> I'm not sure if the Bundler errors we saw (that lead to this) are directly related, but it does look like it
<brixen> what does an MRI hash with ivars serialize as under psych 2.0.9?
<yorickpeterse> brixen: same behaviour as on Rbx
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<yorickpeterse> hash = {:a => 10}
<yorickpeterse> hash.instance_variable_set(:@number, 20)
<yorickpeterse> Psych.dump(hash)
<yorickpeterse> => "--- !ruby/hash-with-ivars\nelements:\n :a: 10\nivars:\n :@number: 20\n"
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<brixen> yep, so that's that
<brixen> in rbx, a Hash has ivars
<brixen> it serializes like that
<brixen> in mri, it does, too
<brixen> just arbitrarily if someone happens to set them
<brixen> so, in rbx, it's consistent, in mri, it's haphazard
<brixen> the typical case
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<[spoiler]> Lol
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<headius> I'd think consistent behavior then means that instance vars get serialized, regardless of whether they're "internal" or not
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<headius> or it should never do them
<[spoiler]> Why'd anyone want to set ivars on a hash anyway
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<headius> well, that may be a compromise...the original bug that introduced the new behavior was a subclass of Hash
<headius> perhaps Psych should treat a few core natural types as sacrosanct
<headius> explicitly
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<epitron> hey, have you guys ever seen this? kyrylo pointed this out the other day
<epitron> >> eval "1 + (100 \n + 1)"
<eval-in_> epitron => 2 (https://eval.in/242849)
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<epitron> >> eval "1 + (100 + \n 1)"
<eval-in_> epitron => 102 (https://eval.in/242850)
<epitron> it's pretty weird :)
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<epitron> >> eval "1 + (print 'so weird ' \n + 1)"
<eval-in_> epitron => so weird 2 (https://eval.in/242851)
<Senjai> epitron: Not really
<Senjai> epitron: I dont think the bot is escaping the \n
<epitron> that's ruby bro
<epitron> try it in irb
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<Senjai> [1] pry(main)> 1 + (100 \n + 1)
<Senjai> SyntaxError: unexpected $undefined, expecting ')'
<Senjai> 1 + (100 \n + 1)
<Senjai> ^
<epitron> that's not eval
<epitron> of course that doesn't work :)
<Senjai> Okay...
<Senjai> yea
<Senjai> weird
<Senjai> But I still think its just not escaping the \n
<epitron> newp
<apeiros> you get the same with literal ruby
<apeiros> without eval
<apeiros> odd indeed
<epitron> yeah, it's ruby
<Senjai> kay fine its odd
<Senjai> geeze
<yorickpeterse> No that actually makes sense
<nofxx> yorickpeterse, char.+() ?
<epitron> Senjai: how gracious of you :D
<yorickpeterse> 100 \n + 1 is parsed as (100) (+1)
<apeiros> ah
<apeiros> 100 \n +1 is two expressions
<apeiros> it's like (100; +1)
<epitron> oh, lol
<nofxx> hm... '+
<yorickpeterse> however 100 + \n 1 is (100 + 1)
<epitron> that's pretty awesome
<yorickpeterse> ah, apeiros beat me to it
<nofxx> ops... sorry: '+' kinda looks both sides to find a number?
<yorickpeterse> you can do this though: 100 \ \n + 1
<epitron> yeah, it all makes sense now
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<Senjai> TIL
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