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<dkubb> zenspider: rue: I assume you were talking to me, or did another Dan join the channel ;)
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<rue> I was just being silly, zenspider might have! There’s imperator, too, but he’s not here anyway…
<dkubb> heh
<erikh> dan the man with the plan
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<krohrbaugh> someblogorsomething is available too
<krohrbaugh> my only problem with someblogsomewhere.com is your eye reads it as SomeBlogsOmewhere
<krohrbaugh> shit, MT
<krohrbaugh> sorry
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<krohrbaugh> lol
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<rue> blogmcblogpants.com
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<krohrbaugh> lol thanks
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<chris2> zenspider: just so you know your code is used for good purpose :P http://vuxu.org/~chris/tmp/test-0000.mpeg
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<diegoviola> what is !! in ruby?
<rue> !(!)
<diegoviola> what does that?
<diegoviola> !
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<postmodern> has anyone used Ruby on an ARM system?
<postmodern> diegoviola, unary operator for negation
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<arooni-mobile> hi folks; i tried to install readline as set forth in the rvm docs: https://rvm.io//packages/readline/ ... however even after following the instructions (namely: rvm pkg install readline ; and rvm reinstall 1.9.2 --with-readline-dir=$rvm_path/usr ... i'm getting the same error: "Readline was unable to be required, if you need completion or history install readline then reinstall the ruby. " ideas?
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<rue> diegoviola: !true => false; !(!true) => true !!true => !(!true)
<rue> s/>/=/
<arooni-mobile> fixed
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<rue> arooni-mobile: You’re welcome!
<arooni-mobile> rue, it was your inspiration on boolean operators that did it for me
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<hagabaka> diegoviola: it's a way to map objects to true/false values, !!false gives false, !!nil gives false, !!true gives true, and !!anything_else also gives true
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<rue> arooni-mobile: My awesome rubs off that way
<diegoviola> hagabaka: what is the logic behind that?
<diegoviola> hagabaka: behind objects returning true or false with a !!
<hagabaka> !! is two ! operators, the first ! always returns true or false, but negated from the operand, for example !1 gives false
<hagabaka> then the second ! negates it again
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<diegoviola> so two !! becomes true
<diegoviola> !!(1)
<diegoviola> nice
<diegoviola> !!!(1) is false
<diegoviola> false, true, false?
<seanstickle> Yup
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<diegoviola> nice
<diegoviola> ty
<arooni-mobile> if a function has a place to use a Hash such as http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib-1.9.3/libdoc/open-uri/rdoc/OpenURI.html and you can pass it "User-Agent" ... is there a way for me to pass it a symbol instead?
<arooni-mobile> for instance, :user-agent ?
<postmodern> :"User-Agent"
<postmodern> you can also do string embedded
<postmodern> :"X-#{header.capitalize}"
<arooni-mobile> interesting
<arooni-mobile> would would be the advantage if any to using :"User-Agent" ?
<postmodern> not really?
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<postmodern> symbols are normally all snakecased
<postmodern> otherwise you probably want a String
<rue> :ConstantName isn’t terribly uncommon, point of order
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<imperator> good evening
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<rue> Huhu
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<imperator> rue, eh?
<rue> I’m a ghost
<imperator> Who we gonna call?
* Boohbah calls the US Army
<imperator> no, dumbass, ghostbusters
<imperator> duh
<imperator> get it together man
<imperator> j/k Boohbah
<Boohbah> hehe
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<imperator> fuck it, i'm crossing the streams rue
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<rue> Noo
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<TheHunter_1039> Is there any reason to use DateTime objects instead of Time objects?
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<bnagy> yeah Time is a posix time wrapper
<bnagy> so it can only go so far back in time, so to speak
<TheHunter_1039> ahhh, so it's no good before that 1970 date?
<bnagy> I believe this to be the case, yes
<bnagy> although my irb is calling me a liar
<TheHunter_1039> just checked mine too, it said liar as well
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<bnagy> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1261329/whats-the-difference-between-datetime-and-time-in-ruby this is the standard wisdom, but it appears now to be bullshit
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<TheHunter_1039> maybe they updated it in 1.9
<Mon_Ouie> 1.9.2 to be precise
<bnagy> in any case I think DateTime in 1.9 is generally better
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<Mon_Ouie> Before that you were limited by integer size (so ranges were different on 32bit and 64bit platforms)
<bnagy> I only use Time for mini differences, like Time.now (do stuff) Time.now - oldtime
<rippa> I think having 3 different classes for measuring time is bullshit
<bnagy> well, I learned something today. Yay! Question the man! (where the man in this case is stackoverflow)
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<diegoviola> what is __DIR__ ?
<erikh> did that patch actually get applied?
<diegoviola> which one
<diegoviola> ramaze uses __DIR__ to include some files, i wonder if that's a ruby thing or ramaze thing
<diegoviola> require __DIR__('foobar')
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<diegoviola> does it map something else or?
<erikh> IIRC, it's File.dirname(File.expand_path(__FILE__))
<erikh> I think ramaze sets it, it doesn't appear to be in 1.9.3
<diegoviola> ty
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<diegoviola> where can i get documentation for ruby, for things like "require", etc
<diegoviola> online if possible
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<cirwim> diegoviola: I use pry (gem install pry); you can just do ? require and it will show you; otherwise http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/Kernel.html
<diegoviola> cirwim: ty
<diegoviola> :)
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<diegoviola> i've just tried pry
<diegoviola> nice
<diegoviola> cirwim: thanks for recommending it
<diegoviola> :D
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<shevy> :)
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<rindolf> Hi all. With this code - http://paste.debian.net/171221/ and ruby-1.8.7.p358-1.mga2 (on Mageia Linux 2), I am getting «/home/shlomif/progs/freecell/hg/fc-solve/fc-solve/scripts/summarise-dbm-fc-solve-results.rb:85: syntax error, unexpected $end, expecting kEND». I can't see what is wrong with my code.
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<shevy> rindolf daj_results =
<shevy> rindolf that part of the code does not seem to close for me
<rindolf> shevy: it's a here-document.
<rindolf> shevy: I found out what the problem was: the "daj." line on line 79.
<rindolf> shevy: too bad ruby reported it on a different line.
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<Mon_Ouie> It's hard for ruby to tell that you didn't actually intend to call end on daj
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<rindolf> Mon_Ouie: yes.
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<rue> NO
<rue> Wait yes
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<imperator> moin
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<rue> Meh
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<arooni-mobile> is there a way to figure out why the gem 'ace' is getting required? i dont have it in my Gemfile.. and ruby is complaining about not having access to it
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<arooni-mobile> perhaps i shouldnt run ... -trace .. and should run --trace instead ! hahahah!
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<burgestrand> arooni-mobile: look in the Gemfile.lock if you want to see what gems are *actually* available to you (e.g. dependencies, dependencies of dependencies etc)
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<rue> chris2: You got some deep connections going there. Aquinas?
<chris2> yes
<chris2> read the highlighted quote
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<akahn> There's a way to clean this up using to_enum, right? I can't quite figure it out. Anyone have a hint? http://pastie.org/3973546
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<shevy> why does require only like one argument?
<shevy> I have three lines of require, for 'date', 'yaml' and 'pp'. require 'date','yaml','pp' would kill two lines for me here
<akahn> heftig: that's shorter but I thought there would be a slicker to_enum way. thank you
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<manveru> shevy: because there is also the faction that wants `require "foo", "1.2"`
<manveru> you guys cancel each other out, so require never changes
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<shevy> hehehe
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<arooni-mobile> anyone ever get ruby + rvm + god to work? i think they're designed not to work togehter hahha
<_br_> arooni-mobile: eh? How come, what kind of errors you get?
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<arooni-mobile> _br_, well eventually id like to run god as a init.d service... ive already tried to create a wrapper: rvm wrapper 1.8.7-p358 bootup god .. which puts a file in /home/deploy/.rvm/bootup_god ... but i cant even run god through that
<arooni-mobile> or i can run it; but nothing seems to happen
<_br_> hm. not sure whats going wrong there. maybe someone else has an opinion on that.
<arooni-mobile> ok so apparently the wrapper will run god to the point i can do a versoin check
<arooni-mobile> but it certainly doenst start the god daemon
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<arooni-mobile> its like it quits right away
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<_br_> arooni-mobile: Well, rvm to be quite frank is a quite a shell hack. I'm not sure where exactly the issue is, if you don't have any decent log output, maybe something more lightweight like e.g. rbenv is something for you.
<arooni-mobile> i already have the whole app configured to work with god
<arooni-mobile> i'm thinking i can jus tinstall the ubuntu version of god
<arooni-mobile> that isnt a hack to actually run; but i worry about getting access to rvm's enviornment
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<_br_> exactly my point. I think the problem is in rvm not god.
<arooni-mobile> i agree
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