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<novodinia> i am solving the project euler problems, i several solutions to the first problem, i was thinking of making a class named something like 'peuler1', i don't know the typical naming convention used
<novodinia> one of the solutions is a class itself
<novodinia> i don't know if that's a problem
<novodinia> also, is it recommended to require more than one module per line?
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<novodinia> when i'm in irb, i can load this file: https://gist.github.com/2733154
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<novodinia> i can require 'benchmark' with no problem
<novodinia> but when i try Benchmark.bmbm { |x| x.report("time for fmans") {5.times {fmans(5000) } } } i get an error
<novodinia> time for fmans NameError: undefined local variable or method `fmans' for main:Object
<novodinia> time for fmans NameError: undefined local variable or method `fmans' for main:Object
<novodinia> didn't mean to duplicate the paste
<novodinia> how would you import the method?
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<novodinia> my continued failed attempts: https://gist.github.com/2733172
<lianj> show us one.rb
<ryanf> novodinia: you are defining fmans as an instance method of the class ProjectEuler1::Solutions1
<ryanf> you need to either instantiate an object of that type and then call fmans on it, or make those class methods instead and call e.g. ProjectEuler1::Solution1.fmans
<ryanf> but you can't just call fmans directly unless you are already in the context of an object of the class ProjectEuler1::Solutions1
<novodinia> whoops
<novodinia> here it is https://gist.github.com/2733185
<lianj> novodinia: yea, like ryanf said. one = ProjectEuler1::Solutions1.new; then one.fmans works
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<novodinia> thank you for that
<novodinia> a google for: the difference between "ruby-debug" and "ruby --debug"
<novodinia> doesn't yield what i'm looking for, anyone willing to explain or link?
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<novodinia> olathe': undefined method `sum_mod' for 5000:Fixnum (NoMethodError)
<novodinia> olathe is outside of the class, but it's within the same module/file
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<novodinia> r.Integer.sum_mod
<novodinia> maybe that will work
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<novodinia> `olathe': private method `Integer' called for 5000:Fixnum (NoMethodError)
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<novodinia> i will figure this out later, thanks for all the help today!
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<shevy> GREETINGS PROGRAMS
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<shevy> if isinstance(seq, (list, tuple)): ...
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<bnagy> good thing you're here and not in #python then
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<shevy> hehe
<shevy> I never get past the language barrier
<shevy> I write sshhh Szszhshshs sshshshhshs all diligently and everyone suddenly wants to ignore me :(
<bnagy> mmm parseltongue
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<shevy> hmm
<shevy> is it adviced to use a method called "send" in a ruby class?
<shevy> send 'hi'
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<shevy> or would that conflict with the default self.send for objects in ruby
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<yxhuvud> __send__
<yxhuvud> however, not everyone uses that
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<rue> __send__ is the backup
<rue> So, for example, Socket can use #send, and there’s still __send__ if needed.
<rue> shevy: ^
<shevy> ah nice
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<Erlfin> Hi
<Erlfin> I'm programming a Irc bot, and need some help. For example when you write !ping in a channel, it answer !pong in a privmsg to the nickname and not the channel: PRIVMSG #{@channel} :PONG, how do I change the channel tag to the nickname of the user?
<Tasser> Erlfin, take a look at cinch :-P
<Erlfin> thx Tasser :)
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<shevy> Erlfin I write a mini IRC client right now. it annoys me to no ends...
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<banisterfiend> hi
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<rue> HI THERE
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<banisterfiend> :P
<rue> Good for students, I guess
<rue> Or someone who was already working on it
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<banisterfiend> seanstickle: sup stick
<seanstickle> Hey banisterfiend !
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<banisterfiend> hru
<seanstickle> Good. I need you to create PHP Pry.
<seanstickle> Can you get on that?
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<banisterfiend> seanstickle: correction, u need to get the hell away from PHP
<seanstickle> That is another option, true.
<banisterfiend> seanstickle: i thought your company was ruby? it's PHP?
<yorickpeterse> hahahahaha PHP pry
<seanstickle> banisterfiend: mix-and-match
<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse: oh hey yoz
<seanstickle> And right now, I am between jobs.
<seanstickle> Looking for new things.
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<banisterfiend> seanstickle: i thought you had some sweet job with a company something to do with trading carbon credits
<seanstickle> banisterfiend: something like that, yes.
<seanstickle> banisterfiend: wasn't really for me
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<banisterfiend> seanstickle: too much php?
<seanstickle> Too much startup.
<imperator> what, 80 hours a week wasn't fun?
<seanstickle> Nah, that's fine.
<banisterfiend> imperator: btw what happens if u dont reach the $50K for your kickstarter? everyone gets their money back? or do u get to keep what they've given so far?
<seanstickle> Just not a great project list for me.
<seanstickle> Hard to explain.
<seanstickle> 60 hours is my base, no matter what job I'm at.
<seanstickle> So that rarely bothers me.
<seanstickle> banisterfiend: money is only transferred on hitting the target
<imperator> banisterfiend, they get their money back. it isn't really "spent" unless i reach my goal
<banisterfiend> imperator: are you confident to reach it?
<imperator> in other words, pledgers spend nothing until goal is reached
<kyrylo> What's the goal?
<banisterfiend> $50K
<kyrylo> I mean, what's the goal, he wants to reach with help of money.
<banisterfiend> imperator: so, 47K in 9 days :P goodluck!
<imperator> thanks!
<banisterfiend> imperator: did you hear it was mentinoed on the ruby show?
<imperator> yes
<kyrylo> Spooner should be happy :)
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<shevy> hmm it requires a credit card?
<imperator> to pledge? i think so
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<imperator> man, what is it with jruby and Dir.chdir? always has been squirrlyl
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<rue> imperator: It’s just because it’s using the JavaOS view of the file system
<imperator> rue, yeah, i've reported at least one issue with it in the past; blows up one of my tests i think
<rue> Are you certain the test is correct?
<imperator> works with mri
<imperator> i'm using test-unit 2, and just doing a Dir.chdir call in the self.startup method so that some temp files i generate are created in the test directory
<imperator> but with jruby it never seems to actually chdir
<imperator> but....it might have something to do with me redefining Dir.pwd, not sure yet, still investigating
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<imperator> (although, as i said, mri had no complaints)
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<shevy> hmm in old code ... I have this:
<shevy> select( [$stdin], nil, nil, 1.1 )
<shevy> it confuses me ...
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<shevy> is the docu for it broken or am I too dumb? http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/Kernel.html#method-i-select does not seem to show me anything at all
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<apeiros_> hm, broken too, though. signature is off…
<apeiros_> it's select(read_array, write_array, error_array, timeout)
<shevy> ah
<shevy> cool thanks
<shevy> now I understand the nils hehe
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<mikkelb> WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY always this shit https://gist.github.com/2759036 Error installing fileutils: ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension. (using cygwin, I already got ImageMagick and libImageMagick installed)
<Mon_Ouie> You need a magick-config binary somehow
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<deryldoucette> oh the joys of Windows! <NOT>
<mikkelb> Well, this is using rvm. Using Cygwin's own Ruby version it works fine though
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<mikkelb> deryldoucette: hehe yeah :/
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<mikkelb> is there a way to install fileutils without rmagick?
<mikkelb> probably not, forget i asked
<Mon_Ouie> It's confusing to have a gem that has the same name as a library in stdlib but does something totally different
<mistym> mikkelb: Is magick-config in your path?
<deryldoucette> this is why RVM Project doesn't support windows. such a freakin nightmare.
<mistym> Mon_Ouie: Yeah, the builtin FileUtils was what I was thinking of too.
<mikkelb> Mon_Ouie: true that
<mikkelb> mistym: doesnt seem like it no
<mistym> mikkelb: Then add its location to your path.
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<mikkelb> running find / -name magick-config
<mikkelb> might be a better way but :-)
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<mikkelb> mistym: I don't know, I can't find magick-config / Magick-config anywhere. I've reinstalled ImageMagick and libImageMagick several times too.
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<mikkelb> Google says it's suppose to be in /usr/bin or /bin, but no sir!
<lsegal> mikkelb there's pik for windows (rvm-like implementation)
* mikkelb tinkers with the thought of using his 12-gauge shotgun
<lsegal> you might get better results with that
<lsegal> not the shotgun
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<shevy> hmm
<shevy> yeah
<shevy> try a smaller gun
<shevy> :)))
<mikkelb> hehe
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<mikkelb> i got one of those poisonous darts
<mikkelb> used to stroke them gently under my arms to get a LSD-like high
<mikkelb> * under my underarms
<mikkelb> i think ill do that actually, might come up with a solution
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<shevy> wait what
<shevy> LSD loaded darts??
<shevy> what crazy place you living at!
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<mikkelb> hehe
<mikkelb> just came back from brazil :-)
<mikkelb> jungle folks down there use them apparently, against construction workers etc. that come and try to mess up their forests
<lianj> hihi
<Harzilein> hmm
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<Harzilein> can ri caches be merged?
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<andrewvos> This channel never ceases to amaze.
<imperator> oh?
<andrewvos> imperator: Read up
<imperator> what? lsd loaded darts?
<andrewvos> Yep.
<imperator> gem install llsd
<imperator> alright, not quite, but close!
<andrewvos> imperator: I would have a better chance of understanding the darts to be honest.
<imperator> obviously, it's time to create an "lsd-darts" gem
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<lianj> for windows construction workers
<andrewvos> In any case, I think we've kind of arrived at the fact that when using Ruby under Windows the best choice is to quit and find a better job.
<imperator> we have?
<andrewvos> imperator: You didn't get the memo?
<imperator> no, it must have come out when i was rebooting my snow leopard desktop for a security update
<andrewvos> Was that a burn? I'm not even sure.
<imperator> or maybe it was a safari security fix, i can never keep track
<andrewvos> What's that new version of Windows? Windows 8? There, that's my comeback.
<imperator> oh, well, as long as some guy in china is working for slave wages in a sweatshop somewhere so i can run this awesome hardware, i'm happy
<andrewvos> imperator: You and me both buddy. You and me both.
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<apeiros_> drbrain: can't you make *.gemspec the default arg to `gem build`?
* apeiros_ always stumbles over that again and again, just too stupid to learn it…
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<kyrylo> gem build <TAB>; works for me :)
<apeiros_> you set up a bash-completion?
<kyrylo> It's default behaviour in zsh. gem build f<TAB> expands to foo.gempsec, for example; Not a problem to press two (or three) more buttons.
<apeiros_> kyrylo: zsh knows by default that it has to expand to something that ends in .gemspec for gem build? o0
* apeiros_ has some doubts about that…
<kyrylo> You can write `gem build *.g*`
<cirwim> gem build *spec
<cout> or write a wrapper
<apeiros_> kyrylo: I already do that
<apeiros_> the point is that I don't want to have to type that
<apeiros_> and *.gemspec would be a sane default
<cirwim> I think it'd be cool if gem build with no arguments did the right thing too
<kyrylo> Well, OK. Let's wait, what drbrain will say.
<apeiros_> at least I don't see any use-cases where it'd be a problem
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<kyrylo> apeiros_, also, I think there are completions for `gem` command. You could install one (I don't use them myself, though).
<apeiros_> I probably should. I use bare gem commands quite often.
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<nofxx> Isn't there any new, nice, cool human verification gem around? I remember one with those "5 minus 3" questions...
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<nofxx> hehe.. won't be surprise if that filters more humans than machines today tbh....
<seanstickle> It is a sort of tom jabbar
<seanstickle> *gom jabbar
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<nofxx> "death-alternative test of human awareness" hehe, nice to know
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<nofxx> alternative is work for google.. for free. Now they're using the captcha to OCR house numbers, taken with google streets
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<rue> You should play “The Final Countdown” and ask if it’s awesome or not. If they say no, it’s a computer
<kyrylo> rue, what are you using to type correct apostrophes and quotes?
<rue> OS X
<rue> (Less glibly, it’s opt-<letter> and opt-shift-<letter> for a few of the more common ones)
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