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<mistym>
The Twitter API is really acting weird for me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Why am I getting hour-old results when I search without "since_id"?
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<WillMarshall>
How are foo.value= methods usually implemented in Ruby?
<WillMarshall>
I'm trying to override a setter method, but I'm not clear on how it works under the hood
<mistym>
Either you can use attr_writer(:foo), or manually def foo=(bar); ...; end
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<ryanf>
WillMarshall: yeah, it's just a method called "value="
<ryanf>
that's defined normally on foo's class
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<WillMarshall>
How would I translate an array [1, 2, 3] into a method call foo.bar(1, 2, 3) ?
<whitequark>
foo.bar(*[1,2,3])
<WillMarshall>
whitequark: Cheers
<WillMarshall>
Splat operator?
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<whitequark>
yeah
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<Harzilein>
hi
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<WillMarshall>
Can I build a quick array in Ruby like Pythons array = [foo for foo in foos]?
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<postmodern>
WillMarshall, you can do an Array of strings, %w[foo bar baz]
<Harzilein>
i wanted to try making a DL/Fiddle function without defining my own class (maybe that is silly). The function is easy enough, but it returns a struct pointer. Now, in a class that mixes in DL::Importer that would be easily done with the struct method, but as i don't want that i think i need to use DL::CParser#parse_struct_signature but i can't seem to find
<Harzilein>
postmodern: he is talking about python list comprehensions
<WillMarshall>
postmodern: Yeah, there are ways to build arrays inline in Python and Coffeescript
<Harzilein>
postmodern: that is not a list of words, for and in are keywords, foo and foos are identifiers
<postmodern>
WillMarshall, ah, try mapping a Range
<WillMarshall>
I swear Ruby had something similar, but I can't find it and I might be smoking crack ;)
<bnagy>
WillMarshall: map transforms array elements, each operates on every element
<postmodern>
WillMarshall, there's also a Generator class, which is a kind of Enumerable
<bnagy>
WillMarshall: it would be easier if you had a specific use case / problem :)
<WillMarshall>
bnagy: Sure, I was just hoping for something terser than map ;)
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<WillMarshall>
postmodern: Will check that out
<Harzilein>
to finish my sentence from above: it, so maybe it is private?
<WillMarshall>
Just building n-length arrays of mock()
<WillMarshall>
As terse as possible
<bnagy>
Array.new( n ) {|e| #code}
<postmodern>
WillMarshall, oh also try Array.new(n) { |index| logic_here }
<postmodern>
yeah
<WillMarshall>
Hmm. Still a bit clunky, but it'll do :)
<bnagy>
oh yeah you're right, it's i not e
<whitequark>
hmm
<Harzilein>
anyone?
<whitequark>
ruby doesn't have list comprehensions, but it does have map
<WillMarshall>
Map is gorgeous
<whitequark>
[foo(v) for v in foos] ~ foos.map { |v| foo(v) }
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<whitequark>
and if you need to call an instance method like foos.map { |v| v.foo }
<whitequark>
then it can be shorted to foos.map(&:foo)
<Harzilein>
also note that there is a terse form for avoiding the v if you want to be very terse
<WillMarshall>
Ayup
<Harzilein>
right, what whitequark said
<WillMarshall>
Alright, nothing magical here I'm not aware of :)
<WillMarshall>
Thanks guys
<WillMarshall>
And curse you Python
<WillMarshall>
Every time I leave Ruby for a few days my brain implodes
<erikh>
you should get that looked at
<WillMarshall>
It's a weakness
<WillMarshall>
No anonymous functions, blocks or useable lambdas in Python :/
<WillMarshall>
Tricky when I'm writing event-driven code
<Harzilein>
well, which brings me to my question above
<whitequark>
you can kinda soften that with decorators
<whitequark>
but it's still bad
<WillMarshall>
whitequark: Honestly, it's a problem that'd be best solved with Coffeescript or Ruby
<Harzilein>
i want to start with wrapping a single function of liblwip (which does not exist in that form, but is an example in lwip-contrib)
<WillMarshall>
whitequark: It's problem that's rather well-suited to functional programming, but hey
<WillMarshall>
Such is life
<bnagy>
Harzilein: I do all my wrapping with FFI, sry
<whitequark>
yup, why fiddle with dl when you have ffi?
<Harzilein>
heh, i wanted to try it with the stdlib first ;)
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<erikh>
nothing wrong with DL
<Harzilein>
popping in new gems in reminds me too much of paid work ;)
<Harzilein>
-in
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<Harzilein>
so this function returns a huge tcp_pcb struct, and i wanted to try to recreate that peacemeal by looking at what DL::CParse#parse_struct_signature would return and assembling that by hand.
<Harzilein>
maybe i have not understood some rdoc concept? should that method be available after require 'dl'?
<Harzilein>
ah, nevermind, they are apparently used in a source filter
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<postmodern>
Harzilein, good catch i can fix that typo
<postmodern>
Harzilein, you might want to look at bin-struct or bit-struct
<postmodern>
Harzilein, or rstruct
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<bnagy>
bindata
<postmodern>
that's right bindata
<postmodern>
bindata and rstruct
<postmodern>
i also recently wrote my own struct packer/unpacker
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<bnagy>
binstruct is my one from 6 years ago :)
<bnagy>
bitstruct can't do dynamic fields properly, bindata can
<Harzilein>
postmodern: what typo?
<postmodern>
Harzilein, the @@@
<Harzilein>
postmodern: i thought it is related to the rake task w/ the generator?
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<Harzilein>
i think bindata would not help me much when i also want to execute c functions, not just read data
<bnagy>
it would just be for if you wanted to get the data as a blob and parse it with ruby instead of getting a struct class working
<Harzilein>
so, the tenderlove presentation on "hidden gems in the stdlib" said "ffi code is automatically fiddle/dl code". is that really true or was that just planned?
<postmodern>
Harzilein, not really
<postmodern>
Harzilein, i would just use the ffi gem, proper, it's well maintained
<postmodern>
Harzilein, also i believe it supports bit-ordering, so you can do little/big endian fields
<Harzilein>
so, can it be used without having classes to mixin stuff with? to support my bottom-up-approach?
<postmodern>
Harzilein, no you have to extend FFI::Library into somewhere, and call ffi_lib
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<Harzilein>
postmodern: oh, i assumed that is only necessary in the sequential api and starts the threads i want to avoid in favor of eventmachine
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<postmodern>
Harzilein, betting it initializes some global structures
<postmodern>
Harzilein, might also want to attach_function any error handling functions from the lib
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<Harzilein>
postmodern: btw, all those functions with no arguments make me think if there's a way i can omit the empty array
<postmodern>
Harzilein, not really since you have to specify the return type
<Harzilein>
postmodern: void lwip_init(void) %-)
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<Harzilein>
postmodern: yeah, they _do_ have a long list of custom error results
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<Harzilein>
postmodern: any example of a lib that has those (with symbolic names that would make nice constants) as well?
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<Harzilein>
postmodern: guess my use case is exotic as they are not constants, just macros
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<postmodern>
Harzilein, yeah you normally have to copy macros into Ruby
<postmodern>
Harzilein, either as constants or lambdas
<postmodern>
Harzilein, or functions
<postmodern>
Harzilein, also ffi has a helper method for defining enums
<Harzilein>
alas it is not an enum
<Harzilein>
i think i'll start out with constants and i found a static *char[] with the error messages in the part that is conditional to wanting "lots of bloated error reporting" (my guess at the authors' thoughts here)
<Harzilein>
just need to find out how i can import those :)
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<Harzilein>
postmodern: do i use your ffi-libc if i want ip_addr_t?
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<postmodern>
Harzilein, you could use ffi-libc for that struct
<postmodern>
Harzilein, or copy/paste it into your app
<postmodern>
Harzilein, also for importing macros, just need to do some creative vim/emacs find/replacing to strip the #define
<Harzilein>
Ctrl-V is made for that task ;)
<Harzilein>
and q is made for decorating the remaining part with equal signs :)
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<Harzilein>
ffi-libc would still require me to pack data into the struct by myself, right?
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<postmodern>
Harzilein, no you just need to copy the data from the pointer
<postmodern>
Harzilein, or create a new Struct around the pointer/buffer
<postmodern>
Harzilein, all the struct[:field]s should work
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<postmodern>
Harzilein, time for me to sleep, best of luck with this library :)
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<countdigi>
anyone have an idea how to cut this down to 1 statement for rspec?
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<felipe__>
Hello, I have a soap4r question. Once I have created a web service with soap4r and I have the server running, whats the url where the wsdl resides?
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<Harzilein>
meh
<Harzilein>
do bacon and rspec collide in rubygems based setups (as opposed to distribution packages) as well?
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<manveru>
Harzilein: why would they?
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<manveru>
i mean, as long as you only require one of them
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<Harzilein>
manveru: they have file collisions because they put their autotest below lib/ and automatic packaging helpers seem to assume only installation targets below lib/
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<manveru>
lol
<manveru>
well, who needs rspec anyway :)
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<Harzilein>
manveru: both have autotest/discover.rb and list it in their metadata
<Harzilein>
manveru: other packages do
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<manveru>
sorry for sounding serious, i thought using ":)" would make sure you know i'm joking :P
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<Harzilein>
when i require 'ffi/libc' i cannot use FFI::LibC:IpAddr.new afterwards
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<grandy>
hello, i just wrote a small monkey patch for a gem... it doesn't seem to be getting called (the gem's code is instead). Is there a recommended way to force my monkey patch to be used?
<grandy>
(it's getting defined after all gems have been loaded)
<drbrain>
I hope the ffi maintainers have submitted requests to the ruby bug tracker to mark such functions as supported ruby API
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<burgestrand>
imperator: couldn’t you bind to FFI::CURRENT_PROCESS and attach rb_reserved_fd_p, which would make it usable from ruby-land through ffi? :)
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<imperator>
burgestrand, i don't know how to do that
<postmodern>
imperator, see the wiki i linked you too
<Harzilein>
postmodern: oh, nice, i'll join :)
<postmodern>
imajes, shows how to use CURRENT_PROCESS
<postmodern>
Harzilein, excellent :)
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<imajes>
ok.
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