<DocScrutinizer05>
Web-aptosid876_: 3.5" really? with composite? nah, I doubt that has much use for anything. Unless you want to run some smartphone UI on it
<DocScrutinizer05>
pocket computer? doesn't seem to really pan out
<DocScrutinizer05>
when you're after a pocket computer with 3.5" good display: used N900
<DocScrutinizer05>
seems you should be able to find one for same or lower cost than your DIY pocket thingie
<DocScrutinizer05>
heck, the display alone costs 45 bucks
<DocScrutinizer05>
or get an openpandora
<DocScrutinizer05>
240 bucks for the classic version
<DocScrutinizer05>
N900 should be half of that
<DocScrutinizer05>
but then the pandora has a 4.3" screen
<DocScrutinizer05>
btw "Resolution:480x240" for your aliexpress display! :-o
<Web-aptosid876_>
DocScrutinizer05: I've been spending hours looking thought the results on aliexpress but only the non-mirror ones. I plan to use it for a external camera display
<Web-aptosid876_>
I agree about a 480 display thats what I spent so long looking for
<Web-aptosid876_>
but the small ones are fakes where they list the correct res or there one or two that don't give a more tipical res, I expect there not 480 too.
<Web-aptosid876_>
I've wondered about 5" but I think it's getting a bit big compared to the size of my camera
<DocScrutinizer05>
ooh
<Web-aptosid876_>
it's a ultra compact cannon sx250hs
<DocScrutinizer05>
I don't het the exact usecase you plan for
<DocScrutinizer05>
a 480*240 doesn't seem fit for a viewfinder of a camera
<Web-aptosid876_>
I was thinking it could double up as a pockect computer display too for a test at least
<Web-aptosid876_>
my camera gives me 4:3 out
<Web-aptosid876_>
even when videoing
<DocScrutinizer05>
and for any "computer display" you definitely don't want to go for 240*x resolution
<Web-aptosid876_>
it's not preferable yes but then 320 is the same as my nano note :)
<Web-aptosid876_>
really i'd like a 4.*inch one
<DocScrutinizer05>
hmm
<Web-aptosid876_>
I don't maybe 5inch is the way to go arrr I go in cycles
<Web-aptosid876_>
I have gone in cycles about that pandora I decide not too. human input is a mess in the kernal = stuck to one kernal (now if only they had gone the way of eoma-*) also the usb host is broken. usb1 crashes it = nono for me (i'm getting the dam thing for usb host)
<DocScrutinizer05>
I don't get it. How do you plan to power such a monster? how to fix it to the camera?
<Web-aptosid876_>
some of the little lcds give voltage ranges of 9v min btw. but it would be with some small battery. maybe a tiny lead acid :p :| then only need 600ma
<DocScrutinizer05>
and what for you plan to use it with that camera?
<DocScrutinizer05>
all those car monitors seem to eat ~3W or more
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<DocScrutinizer05>
unbearable for anything "pocket"
<Web-aptosid876_>
my camera is a fixed screen for taking pics but it also does good video 1080p @ 23.9**fps. but I'm annoyed when moving about that I can't always see the screen easily due to it being above me or waist height
<Web-aptosid876_>
3w@12v
<Web-aptosid876_>
but yes it concerns me
<Web-aptosid876_>
so I was think for something more serious I'd get a parallel rbg lcd that would hock up to my improv when ever I get it :)
<Web-aptosid876_>
long term I'd like to get a neo900 for a pockect computer with usb host and normal(no faulty) sound
<Web-aptosid876_>
but that won't be readily for this little event in May nor do I have the £££
<DocScrutinizer05>
yeah, that would make sense, though for a mere pocket computer it's way too expensive
<DocScrutinizer05>
the WWAN costs $$$
<Web-aptosid876_>
well a all in one pockect computer
<Web-aptosid876_>
+ phone. and better then the bloody phone is gps nav :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
yeah, I hope GPS will work fine, with glonass too :-)
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<Web-aptosid876_>
any suggestions for a composite small screen :) ?
<DocScrutinizer05>
sorry, no idea
<Web-aptosid876_>
or keywords
<Web-aptosid876_>
to help me search
<DocScrutinizer05>
pocket TV?
<Web-aptosid876_>
arr
<Web-aptosid876_>
what about diy? composite converters?
<wpwrak>
they have the larger displays just as panel or with various driver boards
<DocScrutinizer05>
InterfaceVideo(CVBS), VGA
<wpwrak>
so you can pick what you like
<Web-aptosid876_>
bonus points for a sunlight readable little displays :D theres pixel Qi 7inch but no smaller and hard to get them by the looks of things
<DocScrutinizer05>
Colors65K/262K/16.7M
<Web-aptosid876_>
btw whats the brightness of the nano note display? i'll have a look
<DocScrutinizer05>
>>Power adaptor should be 12V/1000mA in output,<< BWAHAHA
<Web-aptosid876_>
12V/1000mA for the display
<Web-aptosid876_>
that
<DocScrutinizer05>
WTF they did on that controller board?
<DocScrutinizer05>
monster PMIC with two coils
<whitequark>
hmmm, 12W?
<whitequark>
sounds reasonable for a backlight
<whitequark>
although... no, no it does not
<whitequark>
my notebook's backlight eats somewhere around 6W
<Web-aptosid876_>
nano note lcd brightness 200 min typical 250
<DocScrutinizer05>
backlight rated 40mA
<DocScrutinizer05>
I have NFC what they do with 12W
<Web-aptosid876_>
I found the blacklight bright enough in direct sun
<DocScrutinizer05>
shoukd be enough to unsolder chips from controller board
<Web-aptosid876_>
so those 5w@12v lcd will just be bright enough
<Web-aptosid876_>
unsolder chips urrg pain and time
<DocScrutinizer05>
>>It can be used in any embedded systems<< suuuuure
<Web-aptosid876_>
a anwser for small portable computer is the 7inch kde eoma-68 tablet which I'm also planing to buy when ever they have the £££££ to ramp into production
<wpwrak>
they tend do be a bit, erm, conservative, with their power supplies. note the little monochrome lcds with fpc for data and extra wires for the backlight.
<DocScrutinizer05>
backlight: 19.2V * 40mA
<Web-aptosid876_>
so with the n900 is fptf ready? doesn't the sound need some bloody non-free bits of doom? or is that only in the original firmware?
<Web-aptosid876_>
I guess I had better switch to #maemo for n900 questions
<DocScrutinizer05>
(sound) there are some blobs in PolypAudio that Nokia built to improve audio qualtiy of phonecalls, and to protext speakers even on high playback levels
<DocScrutinizer05>
and a lot of apps rely on some closed policy enforcer daemon which switches mixer settings etc for differing/changing scenarios
<DocScrutinizer05>
audio itself is free. I.E you perfectly can use ALSA and everything will work, except phonecalls and prolly BT headset which depends on PoukeAudio but not on any closed bits
<DocScrutinizer05>
(BT) like on any other linux system
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<DocScrutinizer05>
peole are runnng gentoo on N900
<DocScrutinizer05>
and ebian
<DocScrutinizer05>
debian even
<DocScrutinizer05>
and dunno what else
<DocScrutinizer05>
otoh maemo fremantle runs on beagleboard for example
<DocScrutinizer05>
without any blobs, but of course also without phonecalls
<DocScrutinizer05>
I dunno which of the closed source *apps* do run on beagleboard and which don't
<DocScrutinizer05>
prolly stuff like maps (GPS hardware), camera (drivers firmware hardware), etc will obviously fail on e,g, beagleboard
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<DocScrutinizer05>
contacs and callendar might work
<DocScrutinizer05>
if you insist in using the maemo callendar and contacts
<DocScrutinizer05>
s/ll/l/g
<qi-bot>
DocScrutinizer05 meant: "if you insist in using the maemo calendar and contacts"
<DocScrutinizer05>
skype most likely is too crippled to work on any other platform then the target platform it got developed for
<DocScrutinizer05>
VoIP is integrated in telepathy-sofiasip but also into dialer which is a Nokia blob
<DocScrutinizer05>
you're free to port e.g. twinklephone though, I strongly encourage everybody to do so ;-P
<DocScrutinizer05>
(I admit I'm a tad biased here...)
<DocScrutinizer05>
you shuld ask mrmoku about what went haywire when he tried to port twinklephone to GTA2
<DocScrutinizer05>
02 even
<DocScrutinizer05>
I think some odds with some libs it uses
<DocScrutinizer05>
libccrtpcpp or dunno what
<DocScrutinizer05>
or maybe libboost X-P
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<DocScrutinizer05>
libboost would be easy to kick out though, just used for regex which isn't even mandatory for function of twinkle
<DocScrutinizer05>
(it's me to blame for the functions that need regex being in twinkle anyway)
<DocScrutinizer05>
sure, smart features, but not exactly vital
<Web-aptosid876_>
thanks I'll read the rest tomorrow. I right now I need sleep
<DocScrutinizer05>
n8
<Web-aptosid876_>
I've looked at n8*0
<Web-aptosid876_>
n810 is doomed audio wise
<DocScrutinizer05>
yeah, I almost was about to suggest "get a N810"
<DocScrutinizer05>
huh? how's it doomed audio?
<Web-aptosid876_>
debian would do if enough of it works
<DocScrutinizer05>
I actually love the N810 audio
<DocScrutinizer05>
I ofen use it as web radio
<DocScrutinizer05>
often*
<DocScrutinizer05>
works great
<DocScrutinizer05>
I also often use it as mp3-player for my home stereo, via AV cable
<DocScrutinizer05>
and if it eventually dies, I get the spare one from its box
<Web-aptosid876_>
I didn't mean that sort of dead
<Web-aptosid876_>
software dead
<DocScrutinizer05>
*shrug*
<Web-aptosid876_>
softwre dev
<Web-aptosid876_>
I am noodding off to sleep
<Web-aptosid876_>
well I gave up with n8*0. thats all i know. I think part of it was by the time you have a usb gps,eifi,blutooth,audio I might as well make my own pockect computer
<DocScrutinizer05>
huh?
<Web-aptosid876_>
it would be soo bulky
* DocScrutinizer05
waves
<Web-aptosid876_>
arrr
<Web-aptosid876_>
laters ,sleep.... sleep.... talk tomorewao maybe thanks again for your efforts, I guess I should look into debain on n900 status....
<Web-aptosid876_>
post anything and I'lld read when I wakeup
<Web-aptosid876_>
btw theres the gcw-zero but softawre in dev so won;t be ready in time. #gcw
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wpwrak: ping
<nicksydney>
DocScrutinizer05: how are you ?
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<qi-bot>
[commit] Paul Cercueil: Fix text in log viewer disappearing when pressing alt-right (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/47b098c
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<DocScrutinizer05>
unionfs infos/knowhow anybody? Seems on my x86 linux (rpm) the only unionfs *available* is unionfs-fuse, aufs and unionfs (kernel based) don't even _exist_ ?
<DocScrutinizer05>
and installing unionfs-fuse doesn't result in any manpage becomming available
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<wpwrak>
trying to make a DVD "writeable" ?
<DocScrutinizer05>
no, just trying to stay up to date re UNIX/linux
<DocScrutinizer05>
google doesn't really help to figure what the heck is *fresh* info and what's dusty or even obsolete
<DocScrutinizer05>
I can't come up with a story why neither unionfs nor aufs seems to be available on suse
<DocScrutinizer05>
I'm rather sure e.g. knoppix offers some sort of unionfs to make the DVD "writable"
<DocScrutinizer05>
wonder which one
<wpwrak>
(old info) yeah, if you search long enough, you'll eventually find IFS. that's as old as it gets, at last on linux. of course, it's merely part of the linux fossil record now, long exinct
<DocScrutinizer05>
google doesn't answer "why there's no aufs on suse?"
<DocScrutinizer05>
and I'm just wondering why unionfs-fuse seems to come without manpage
<DocScrutinizer05>
or if it does at all, or I just missed a small detail
<wpwrak>
not everybody likes writing man pages. and sometimes, nobody else does it for them either
<DocScrutinizer05>
incredible
<DocScrutinizer05>
nevertheless I need to read the zypper manpage
<wpwrak>
of course, once you figured out how to use it, you can contribute a man page :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
to list files in unionfs-fuse.rpm
<DocScrutinizer05>
what been the damn command to update the mandb?
<DocScrutinizer05>
and why the HECK didn't the .rpm postinstall do that?
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<wpwrak>
the more questions you encounter, the more opportunity to learn you create. it seems that you'll make great progress on the path to enlightenment these days ;-)
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<DocScrutinizer05>
yeah, but honestly now, what's the mandb update command?
<wpwrak>
in the old days, man would look directly for the file. i mean, the unix file system is a potent enough database in itself. dunno if man has somehow lost that ability now
<wpwrak>
if you just want to read the critter, try zcat FILE | groff -Tascii -man | less
<DocScrutinizer05>
meh, mandb -f /usr/share/man/man8/unionfs-fuse.8.gz did the job
<DocScrutinizer05>
so much for unionfs-fuse(8)
<DocScrutinizer05>
now, why the heck there's no aufs for suse?
<DocScrutinizer05>
nor a kernel based unionfs, which I bet I seen in old days
<DocScrutinizer05>
obsoleted by fuse?
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<DocScrutinizer05>
wow, that's not even a real word
<DocScrutinizer05>
you're on buntkuh? what's your `apropos union` results for filesystems?
<DocScrutinizer05>
sorry, man -k union
<DocScrutinizer05>
>> If the user tries to modify a file on a lower level read-only branch the file is copied to to a higher level read-write branch if the copy-on-write (cow) mode was enabled.<< might introduce some funny effects