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<DocScrutinizer05> another hour to kill until bakery opens
<DocScrutinizer05> maybe I should polish my silly lil fancy shellscript by another one or two lines
<DocScrutinizer05> I actually boggled when I noticed I went to a cmd syntax much like systemd and similar anti-unix'y stuff
<DocScrutinizer05> incredible crap, but ... I don't care
<wpwrak> "to feat" ain't in mine either. and it's obsolete anyway.
<wpwrak> and defeat probably comes from french .. lemme check ...
<wpwrak> yeah. defair, undo. this, wicked foe, shall be thy undoing.
<wpwrak> defairE even
<wpwrak> (or desfaire)
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<DocScrutinizer05> de-faire would actually be pretty close on what I thought defeat means
* dos1 is enjoying ultra-fast NAND flashing on gta02 right now
<DocScrutinizer05> stop an ongoing activity
<DocScrutinizer05> "ultra-fast"¡ ?
<DocScrutinizer05> like "only 25 minutes"?
<dos1> yep
<dos1> gives you plenty of time to enjoy it :P
<DocScrutinizer05> yeah, dfu is a pita
<DocScrutinizer05> nfc what's wrong with that shite
<DocScrutinizer05> I guess it must be flashing every single bit via JTAG-over-USB
<DocScrutinizer05> and then verifying it
<DocScrutinizer05> before running the timing pattern for flashing the next one
<DocScrutinizer05> similar to real eprom flashers, like the one needed for atmel 89cxxxx chips
<DocScrutinizer05> [0]write byte to register A, [1]pull write-enable line high for 50ms. read back byte from destination addr, compare, if not equal:go to [1], pull write-enable high for another 100ms. goto [0]
<wpwrak> dfu on the gta02 was a blessing over jtag.
<wpwrak> you forgot the 1 s break to let things cool down after the stressful write :)
<DocScrutinizer05> wasn't needed for 89cxxxx since it had only 1 or 2k of flash
<DocScrutinizer05> so ideally you were done after few minutes
<DocScrutinizer05> the PC controled the whole flashing via centronics parallel port
<wpwrak> ah, that was a real algorithm. thought you were exaggerating :)
<DocScrutinizer05> I'm not all sure abiout the actuall numbers, but basically it's a real algo, yes
<DocScrutinizer05> funny pusteflipper times
<DocScrutinizer05> (C) 2000-08-09 jrwsoft
<wpwrak> double exposure ? :)
<DocScrutinizer05> nfc, not done by me
<DocScrutinizer05> 15 years ago poor people had no high class digital cameras
<DocScrutinizer05> 15. Flash Programming and Verification Waveforms http://www.atmel.com/Images/doc0368.pdf
<DocScrutinizer05> write byte cycle time: 2ms
<whitequark> more from the Dr. Mengele's research department: "Spouses with low glucose levels were more willing to stick pins into dolls of their partners or torment them with irritating sounds, finds a study published today."
<wpwrak> (poor people) hmm yes, for 2000 that (2592x1944) was still a relative high resolution. BUT ... it seems that the picture was taken in 2008. and the FinePix E510 was introduced around 2005.
<whitequark> "if they won a round, their prize was to be able to torment their partner with an unpleasant noise such as fingernails scratching a blackboard or the scream of an ambulance siren."
<wpwrak> kewl. science is still fun :)
<DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: hardly. I can't figure how those pictures were taken 5 or 8 years after I designed the PCB
<DocScrutinizer05> actually the circuit
<wpwrak> look at the exif
<DocScrutinizer05> nfc
<wpwrak> the date may be wrong but it's rather unlikely that someone would edit the camera type
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<wpwrak> maybe it's on of those damn time travelers again
<DocScrutinizer05> anyway, those pictures not taken by me
<DocScrutinizer05> maybe i lost the original ones and asked mausclick to provide them again to me
<DocScrutinizer05> in 2008
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<wpwrak> kewl. from 4 am 5:30 am there'll be a lunar eclipse. and i'll be able to watch it right from my bedroom window :)
<wpwrak> (says stellarium. the local news claim it'll be more difficult, but i think i'll trust open source :)
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<wpwrak> and even better, moon isn't supposed to just disappear, but it'll turn red. that would of course have been a unique opportunity for the first manned mission to the "red planet"
<whitequark> lol
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<DocScrutinizer05> ummm, 4am your time?
<DocScrutinizer05> :-/ >>Erst am 28.09.2015 gibt es in Mitteleuropa wieder eine Totale Mondfinsternis zu bestaunen<<
<DocScrutinizer05> it's kinda funny to start a debate with arbitrary random people e.g. in a pub, about if/why lunar eclipse is only happening at full moon, and whether or not it looks the same and happens same time from everywhere of the (night) earth
<DocScrutinizer05> ;-P
<DocScrutinizer05> best approach: pretend being ignorant and ask
<DocScrutinizer05> "hey, I'm traveling to $X tomorrow, do you think I can see the eclipse there? same time?"
<wpwrak> ;-))
<wpwrak> and yes, 4 am local time. 4 am zulu would work at least for the position of the sun (night) but the moon wouldn't play along just yet
<DocScrutinizer05> "how does the lunar eclipse look at half moon?"
<wpwrak> that's a good one :)
<wpwrak> now, what would i do with a CTCP TIME ?
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<DocScrutinizer05> you're an angry man, are you?
<DocScrutinizer05> got disconnected
<DocScrutinizer05> [2014-04-15 Tue 04:19:25] [CTCP] Sending CTCP-TIME request to wpwrak.
<DocScrutinizer05> [2014-04-15 Tue 04:19:26] [CTCP] Received CTCP-TIME reply from wpwrak: Mon Apr 14 23:13:01.
<DocScrutinizer05> you answered it, thanks ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05> but seems you also made freenode disconnect me?
<whitequark> he didn't disconnect me
<DocScrutinizer05> tongue in cheek
<DocScrutinizer05> though the synchronicity been quite amazing
<DocScrutinizer05> [2014-04-15 Tue 04:19:56] <wpwrak> now, what would i do with a CTCP TIME ?
<DocScrutinizer05> [2014-04-15 Tue 04:20:10] <DocScrutinizer05> you answered it, thanks ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05> [2014-04-15 Tue 04:20:22] <DocScrutinizer05> [2014-04-15 Tue 04:19:25] [CTCP] Sending CTCP-TIME request to wpwrak.
<DocScrutinizer05> should I....
<DocScrutinizer05> [2014-04-15 Tue 04:33:50] [CTCP] Sending CTCP-TIME request to wpwrak.
<DocScrutinizer05> [2014-04-15 Tue 04:33:50] [CTCP] Received CTCP-TIME reply from wpwrak: Mon Apr 14 23:27:25.
<DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: still here?
<DocScrutinizer05> apropos
<DocScrutinizer05> !ping
<DocScrutinizer05> !help
<qi-bot> DocScrutinizer05: check your pm for some helpful text...
<DocScrutinizer05> !-ladjadldhdlh
<DocScrutinizer05> !ladjadldhdlh
* DocScrutinizer05 waves and heads out to watch the moon a bit as long as it's still there and not eaten by the cosmic goat
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<wpwrak> don't forget to howl a bit at it :)
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<wpwrak> hmm, lots of light contamination from the city
<wpwrak> oh, and mars is below the red moon. neat ! thought that was jupiter
<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: some neo900 idea - a baseband monitor: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/04/gogo_wireless_a.html#c5459667
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<whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: hahahhahahaha
<whitequark> seems like putin actually enacts my plan himself
<whitequark> tl;dr you need to notify RU if you get double citizenship or a residence permit, otherwise you're a criminal
<whitequark> I'm a bit lost to the actual purpose of it
<larsc> you are abviously a traitor if you consider getting dual citizenship
<larsc> obviously
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<wpwrak> well, some countries don't even let you have dual citizenship. e.g., austria.
<wpwrak> don't have to tell them about any residences i get, though
<larsc> do you still pay taxes?
<larsc> or rather do you still need to pay taxes
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<wpwrak> never had to pay taxes in austria. well, except that withholding tax on interest, when i had a bank account there for a while.
<wpwrak> now .. let's see how the lunar orbital adjustment is coming along ...
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<wpwrak> so, moon has stopped - it's bright and white again
<wpwrak> and it looks about as big as before. so the plans of those lunar separatists didn't work. heh :)
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<DocScrutinizer05> the poor goat. Still hungry
<DocScrutinizer05> btw schneier is dead. err his box is
<DocScrutinizer05> wow, resurrected
<DocScrutinizer05> hmmm
<wpwrak> neat, eh ? :)
<DocScrutinizer05> I dunno what you mean by "some neo900 idea"
<DocScrutinizer05> ok, somebody else had same ideas
<DocScrutinizer05> neat I'd cal when next post in that schneier blog been "but.... Neo900 does that today"
<wpwrak> now is the time to make your debut there :)
<wpwrak> i remember you planned something of that sort, but don't remember the details
<DocScrutinizer05> according to our unwritten never negotiated policies that's dos1's job
<DocScrutinizer05> btw the deatails: we monitor power consumption and RF-TX-level
<DocScrutinizer05> so basically we do even more than cryptophone
<wpwrak> ah, and your propaganda minister is presently offline. darn.
<wpwrak> alright, that'll catch these
<DocScrutinizer05> on a modern modem chipset you got a multicore anyway
<DocScrutinizer05> and we hope for a rich monitor mode
<DocScrutinizer05> so we can tell elementary things like CID/LAC to detect cell handovers, but also e.g. T3212 timer to tell when it expires and re-logon happens
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<DocScrutinizer05> at least the >> Developing advanced countermeasures against such attacks is paramount to protecting critical government and business data.<< fas obviously an epic fail
<DocScrutinizer05> ;-P Merkel's phone
<wpwrak> hmm, no sure if she actually used that. i think not.
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<DocScrutinizer05> DocScrutinizer05: seen backlog?
<DocScrutinizer05> [2014-04-15 Tue 09:29:32] <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: some neo900 idea - a baseband monitor: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/04/gogo_wireless_a.html#c5459667
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<dos1> DocScrutinizer05: did you mean "dos1:"? :D
<DocScrutinizer05> yeah
<DocScrutinizer05> when I'm getting lazy and only type two chars before tab
<DocScrutinizer05> usually I type 3
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