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<Ayla>
DocScrutinizer, who's bashing uBoot?
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<kristianpaul>
DocScrutinizer: first cpu was pentium II 133Mhz wih MMX ;)
<kristianpaul>
and i still have it, other board that compaq box died by 2004 :/
<kristianpaul>
visual basic and turbo c first compiler..
* kristianpaul
feel bad about visual basic
<kristianpaul>
but there was not internet and i got the book for near free
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<whitequark>
DocScrutinizer: what's wrong with uboot bashing?
<DocScrutinizer>
well, on #maemo I had a discussion with a guy who claimed meego uBoot was buggy and SHR uboot useless, so he "implemented" ext3 support
<DocScrutinizer>
he didn't get the point why meego had to remove ext3 support due to size limitations
<DocScrutinizer>
I OTOH don't get the point why you *need* any of that, as it's not particularly hurting to have a small dedicated fat partition for kernel
<DocScrutinizer>
or a plain unformated raw partition
* whitequark
prefers raw ones
<DocScrutinizer>
also the term "uboot booting into ext3" made me frown, as it's the kernel that boots into a FS, uboot just loads kernel *from* some location
<DocScrutinizer>
on GTA02 I had a 16GB uSD with a ~14GB VFAT with kernel and all my MP3, and it was very convenient to use this card in a USB stick cardreader with any PC
<wpwrak>
when u-boot was young, it laid awake at night, dreaming of being an operating system
<wpwrak>
now it's old, fat, and thinks it's an operating system
<wpwrak>
btw, for booting from strange file systems, there's always the option of establishing your own mapping. almost 20 years of booting with lilo say it works ;-)
<DocScrutinizer>
yep
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<whitequark>
it's a variation of jwz's law
<whitequark>
"every bootloader expands until it becomes a horribly incomplete operating system implementation"
<whitequark>
"those who do not are repalced with those who do" (grub1/grub2)
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<kristianpaul>
s/fed/fped
<mth>
hmm, why is JFFS2 enabled in the nanonote kernel defconfig?
<kristianpaul>
openwrt legacy?
<mth>
if there is no reason to keep it enabled, we can save some ram by disabling it
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<viric>
so, I can only flatter their good taste, even never having read that magazine :)
<wolfspra1l>
viric: sorry I still don't understand. is the new article online or not?
<viric>
under payment
<wolfspra1l>
viric: aha. reading 'other varieties [of Cichorium] are grown for their roots, which are used as a coffee substitute'
<wolfspra1l>
that sounds more familiar :-)
<viric>
hehe
<viric>
I didn't imagine you would engage in an investigation ;)
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<wolfspra1l>
oh you can imagine me strawling over the winter meadows tomorrow, color wikipedia photo in my hands, searching for that Cichorium
<wolfspra1l>
or maybe not, ok. have to try usb-midi :-)
<viric>
haha
<DocScrutinizer>
whitequark: how comes you think meeting me might be a desirable event? ;-D
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<whitequark>
DocScrutinizer: because I've seen your work and it's awesome. Even if we'd have radically different opinions on some- (or every)thing, an event which I'd not disregard as entirely impossible, I'd say that it would be the time for me to shut up and listen.
<frdminc>
Anyone around who could help me / point me to doc on how to get a DMX light working with M1/Flickernoise?
<whitequark>
frdminc: try #milkymist
<frdminc>
whitequark: thanks, will do
<wpwrak>
DocScrutinizer: maybe he thinks it's generally desirable for you to be well fed ? :)
<wolfspra1l>
frdminc: welcome to Qi Hardware btw. You have a Milkymist One?
<wolfspra1l>
if so - what are your plans with it?
<frdminc>
wolfspra1l: trying to get it set up in time for a small college party tomorrow night. we have a projector and 3 LED DMX lights an alum donated a while back
<whitequark>
wpwrak: how many innocent people has he consumed already?
<wolfspra1l>
frdminc: oh wow, nice!
<wolfspra1l>
ok by all means, if you run into trouble holler here or in #milkymist
<wpwrak>
whitequark: dunno. i've heard he's kinda skinny. but i'm not sure if this means that he doesn't eat much or just that he's hungry
<whitequark>
maybe both
<whitequark>
it's or and not xor ;)
<pabs3>
whitequark: will you release that flash decoder thing? sounds useful for web hackers
<whitequark>
pabs3: hm
<whitequark>
on one hand, it has already generated an enormous (for 2500 lines of code done in three days) amount of profit for me
* pabs3
is the Debian maintainer of flasm, a flash disassembler (only works with old flash)
<whitequark>
on the other hand, anyone clever enough to understand how that works could possibly write the same
<whitequark>
so, I think I will
<pabs3>
awesome
<pabs3>
poke me if you do
<whitequark>
a colleague plans on writing an IDA-like IDE
<whitequark>
but that'll stay out of my reach, and I think it has some changes to stay closed-source
<whitequark>
my library will be packaged as a Ruby gem
<whitequark>
so I think there's nothing you can do