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<pabs3>
w00t
<lekernel>
this is dull and super boring. 99% of the work in any GPU is done by proprietary ASIC algorithms.
<lekernel>
it's time the free software community understands that
<pabs3>
pretty sure they do
<lekernel>
if they did, there would be more people in #milkymist just now
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<wolfspraul>
it's very difficult for anyone to understand, believe, be excited about a few kids saying they can do better than the largest multi-billion USD corporations on the planet
<wolfspraul>
I fully understand that
<wolfspraul>
the way I believe we can break through (obviously since that's what I'm doing), is to accept a little laughter for a while and build the best products we can build, gradually improve them, and look for an opportunity that plays to our strengths to grow
<wolfspraul>
so go ahead compare with those chips, I don't care
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<wolfspraul>
they cost billions to make, it's very hard, and the capital invested has all sorts of consequences in terms of making innovative products
<wolfspraul>
but to deny the value or spectactular performance of such chips is also pretty dumb, imho. they are exciting!
<wolfspraul>
a couple USD will get you all that performance - WOW!
<wolfspraul>
that can do a lot of good things *today*, and Milkymist cannot (yet)
<wolfspraul>
my 2c
<Textmode>
meep?
<lekernel>
of course, but this is the best free GPU SoC which exists today, and they should join the effort instead of improving software support for proprietary solutions
<wolfspraul>
definitely
<wolfspraul>
pabs3: have you joined yet? :-)
<wolfspraul>
you should, seriously, it's good stuff - any contemporary developer will enjoy
<lekernel>
besides, Mali isn't that advanced technically, and it doesn't seem impossible to reach the same level of functionality, especially with the features that migen will bring
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<wolfspraul>
you can develop free graphics acceleration! how's that compared to reverse engineering drivers...
<lekernel>
performance will be a bit harder unless we switch to an asic process ofc
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<pabs3>
wolfspraul: nope, currently lack both time and a reason to use it. just posted the website in #debian-multimedia though, perhaps someone gets interested
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<wpwrak>
DocScrutinizer: 60 dB would be for satellites orbiting somewhere near the heliopause or a bit beyond :)
<wpwrak>
DocScrutinizer: common wisdom has it in the 15-25 dB range
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<qi-bot>
Bryan Lunduke: @qihardware We would love to review the NanoNote on the Linux Action Show. Drop us a line if you're interested. ( 160794176957579267@BryanLunduke - 28s ago via web )
<kristianpaul>
oh nice !
<kristianpaul>
rejon: saw that^
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