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<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/ledravaganza/mpx.fig: labeled LEDs and resistors (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/091f93a
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<whitequark> uh huh
<whitequark> arm mali 3d accelerated driver was reverse-engineered
<larsc> link?
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<pabs3> w00t
<lekernel> this is dull and super boring. 99% of the work in any GPU is done by proprietary ASIC algorithms.
<lekernel> it's time the free software community understands that
<pabs3> pretty sure they do
<lekernel> if they did, there would be more people in #milkymist just now
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<wolfspraul> it's very difficult for anyone to understand, believe, be excited about a few kids saying they can do better than the largest multi-billion USD corporations on the planet
<wolfspraul> I fully understand that
<wolfspraul> the way I believe we can break through (obviously since that's what I'm doing), is to accept a little laughter for a while and build the best products we can build, gradually improve them, and look for an opportunity that plays to our strengths to grow
<wolfspraul> so go ahead compare with those chips, I don't care
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<wolfspraul> they cost billions to make, it's very hard, and the capital invested has all sorts of consequences in terms of making innovative products
<wolfspraul> but to deny the value or spectactular performance of such chips is also pretty dumb, imho. they are exciting!
<wolfspraul> a couple USD will get you all that performance - WOW!
<wolfspraul> that can do a lot of good things *today*, and Milkymist cannot (yet)
<wolfspraul> my 2c
<Textmode> meep?
<lekernel> of course, but this is the best free GPU SoC which exists today, and they should join the effort instead of improving software support for proprietary solutions
<wolfspraul> definitely
<wolfspraul> pabs3: have you joined yet? :-)
<wolfspraul> you should, seriously, it's good stuff - any contemporary developer will enjoy
<lekernel> besides, Mali isn't that advanced technically, and it doesn't seem impossible to reach the same level of functionality, especially with the features that migen will bring
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<wolfspraul> you can develop free graphics acceleration! how's that compared to reverse engineering drivers...
<lekernel> performance will be a bit harder unless we switch to an asic process ofc
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<pabs3> wolfspraul: nope, currently lack both time and a reason to use it. just posted the website in #debian-multimedia though, perhaps someone gets interested
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<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer: 60 dB would be for satellites orbiting somewhere near the heliopause or a bit beyond :)
<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer: common wisdom has it in the 15-25 dB range
<wolfspraul> pabs3: wow that's nice, thank you!
<DocScrutinizer> beware of rogue string posting! gtk/xchat seems vulnerable: https://code.google.com/p/xchat-wdk/issues/detail?id=132#c15
<DocScrutinizer> FWIW
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<pabs3> DocScrutinizer: forwarded to the Debian security team, thanks
<DocScrutinizer> yw
<DocScrutinizer> script kiddie took me by surprise on #maemo last night
<DocScrutinizer> lachs_ ist ~lachs@adsl-84-227-224-144.adslplus.ch (lachs)
<DocScrutinizer> klined now
<DocScrutinizer> probably for lifetime
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<DocScrutinizer> the nasty part is it's a gtk bug
<DocScrutinizer> so expect it to hit on arbitrary other gtk based apps as well soonish
<pabs3> mind if I forward that too?
<pabs3> DocScrutinizer: ^
<DocScrutinizer> go ahead
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<kristianpaul> DocScrutinizer: i could not see the SAT by just watching the IF no no ;)
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<kristianpaul> viric: how do you usally take notes and not lost it
<viric> notes about what?
<kristianpaul> i mean i can take notes but somethimes i forgot save or remeber where i put it
<kristianpaul> about everything, just notes, sticky notes
<viric> I don't use any of them
<kristianpaul> i see
<viric> I've been trying to start using taskwarrior
<kristianpaul> he me too, but no luck so far.. well need to get used to it i guess
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<viric> I used quite rarely. Just for long term notes.
<kristianpaul> i just happen to me i had write lots of notes about milkymist now i cant find then all..
<kristianpaul> argh
<kristianpaul> so open vi write note save and let it there seems not very likelly to avoid it get lost...
<viric> well, I also use often creating a directory with text files
<viric> which sits in the directory of the concerned thing
<viric> or even ~/milkymist, could be
<kristianpaul> yeah, well an alias on my shell perhaps
<kristianpaul> may be this simple task dont need a new tool, just a few customizations ;)
* kristianpaul dont want to lost more notes
<kristianpaul> kyak: there is a reason that nanoonte buils stoped for 2012?
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<wolfspra1l> did they?
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<wolfspra1l> alright, needs fixing :-)
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<qi-bot> Bryan Lunduke: @qihardware We would love to review the NanoNote on the Linux Action Show. Drop us a line if you're interested. ( 160794176957579267@BryanLunduke - 28s ago via web )
<kristianpaul> oh nice !
<kristianpaul> rejon: saw that^
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