<tuxbrain> yea qt is also 4.7 on NN openwrt :)
<wolfspraul> tuxbrain: do you see any orders from it? let's see whether we can create sales...
<tuxbrain> wolfspraul: slightly increase but I don't now if they are directly from this apart of two of them than they have also bought an arduino an UBB :)
<tuxbrain> but I think is a sure bet still workin in that way, we have rised quite good impresion, in all levels from pro to rookie, now is time to demostrate that is not just a hack but a new way of work with Arduino :)
<tuxbrain> and (avr chips)
<rjeffries> wpwrak does the Femtoduino have what's needed so it can be programmed from Ben + UBB?
<wpwrak> rjeffries: yup, looks good
<wpwrak> rjeffries: you need MISO, MOSI, SCK, RESET, GND, and VCC
<rjeffries> too cool I hope Sparkfun or someone decides to build femtoduino
<tuxbrain> the code editor seems preety simple and straigh forward I like it :) , the code highlighter is a little bit more complex... this will be forwarded to next version :), Wolfgang do you mind to host ardunano Ide in qi-hardware projects when I have some code created?
<tuxbrain> time to some sleep, good night dudes :)
<wolfspraul> of course qi is all yours
<wolfspraul> that's what the servers are for
<wolfspraul> C-Keen: great news, I'm happy you could reflash...
<wolfspraul> a small step for C-Keen ... :-)
<whitequark> tuxbrain: just curious, why develop a new ide when arduino already has one?
<whitequark> maybe it's easier to fork
<rjeffries> Steve Mosher said on FB re tuxbrain and UBB: Steven wrote: "Hot Damn. I need to hook back up with those guys.. maybe write code again, ive been getting my skills back in order"
<tuxbrain> whitequark: Due Arduino IDE is written in Java and was thinked with desktop screens in mind, in this case fork will supose a lot of work and java will eat a lot of our preciouse 32Mb of ram, so in this case better make a separate solution
<sujan> hi, where is the new openwrt image for nanonote?
<roh> huh? ide? just add an editor and a makefile
<roh> there is even a makefile already in the svn. just need to fix the tool-pathes to use system avr-gcc etc not the ones binary in the svn checkout
<roh> basically one only needs the /hardware/ tree of the arduino svn
<larsc> roh: but you won't have the #include magic then
<larsc> and also no play button
<roh> larsc: the makefile does it
<roh> play is 'make'
<Jay7> there was some IDE-like text-mode things
<Jay7> iirc, fpe
<Jay7> well, fte and rhide seems good enough :)
<tuxbrain> roh: target is to catch the Arduino users, all them , and the most are just scared , terrified abuot shell things.... I know joe+make is enough, even we can make some preprocesing script to add the #include magic, but the objective is to atracc costumers, we can have an efficient way also (console based, sure I will use this more than the qt ide) but I'm in dayly contact with Arduino users, and if they see a shell they just look to another side. Let'
<tuxbrain> s make them desire the NN with : bells and whistles, and the play button   if needed :)
<tuxbrain> and let the console to real avr guys
<roh> tuxbrain: the make file already does the adding the include and such
<roh> you only need the .pde file really
<tuxbrain> roh: you don't have to add manually to the makefile the includes to link? how?
<roh> uh.. dunno. to link?
<roh> you mean libs?
<tuxbrain> yeah
<roh> no clue how that should work
<roh> i never used the java thing to be fair. much too bad documented for somebody knowing how to use make
<tuxbrain> AFAIK that's part of what the IDE does, generate the make file for the pde, and it include the libs used to generate the hex file
<tuxbrain> arduino libs is part of the arduino success
<tuxbrain> also there is tons of third party libs that arduino makes easy to add, just copy in a dir, and you are done
<roh> well.. not magic. just build some script that does it.
<roh> bbl
<sujan> is there any instructions on using apps on the new openwrt image
<wpwrak> tuxbrain: $(CC) ...stuff... $(patsubst %.lib,-l%,$(wildcard *.lib))
<wpwrak> yes ! finished migrating the last 3 months worth of mail. finally ! :)
<tuxbrain> wpwrak: congrats dude :), such admin task are not usually apreciated and requires a lot of time :)
<wolfspraul> wpwrak: so werner@almesberger.net is your new primary address now?
<wpwrak> wolfspraul: yup. until that machine breaks :)
<wpwrak> wolfspraul: anything sent to werner@openmoko.org will still be forwarded while openmoko.org lasts