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<wens> jelle: bluetooth supposedly works, see the bluetooth wiki page on linux-sunxi
<wens> jelle: just that the chip init process is a bit funky
<wens> if you get past that, then it works
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<wens> MoeIcenowy: i see you did not do a proper binding for the hsic phy on a64?
<wens> you have 1 of the hsic clocks on the usb phy node, and the other on the ehci node
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<libv> did anyone ever see the 33C3 woolim talk?
<libv> looks like none of the speakers there ever made it anywhere near linux-sunxi
<libv> woolim is a locked down north korean tablet based on a33, and the second speaker of the three explains how they got to the hw
<libv> he mentioned phoenixcard, and buying a similar tablet from aliexpress, and then decompiling the nand kernel module.
<libv> yes
<libv> these people call themselves researchers.
<libv> they clearly did not know the magic art of googling.
<libv> but that is actually a bit of a blessing, as booting a full linux with an allwinner own kernel could've resulted in the nand getting corrupted due to the different setup of the randomization
<libv> (like we had with a20)
<libv> this person also talked about how they thought about a logical analyzer to see how they access the nand.
<libv> wtf.
<libv> google. like normal people.
<libv> this part of the talk would've been structured quite differently if they had read up on our wiki and/or contacted our community for more info.
<libv> i got there as i heard even more people brag about CCC at fosdem
<libv> i was first pretty dismissive as fosdem records 24 tracks versus 4 at CCC
<libv> then i looked through the content and found this, and then got curious as to which soc would be used
<libv> and then i got to roll my eyes at the "technical" skill of some of the speakers
<libv> i think i will not bother with getting access, a hotel, and a trainride there at the end of this year
<libv> and now i know that there is little point and a lot of hype.
<muvlon_> there's a lot more to CCC than tech talks
<muvlon_> but I agree you might be disappointed if that's what you attend it for
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<libv> muvlon_: perhaps, but this is just plain bad googling.
<libv> "hi, we are hackers, we even talked at CCC, but we are too dumb to google"
<libv> this i find pretty annoying.
<libv> and it's not as if these were some isolated kids somewhere
<libv> these were people given a very rare tablet smuggled out of north korea
<libv> my personality prevents me from stating "i am not angry, i am just extremely disappointed", as this sort of stupidity really does make me feel very angry.
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<KotCzarny> libv: lol
<KotCzarny> linux-sunxi.com needs more exposure, who is good at PR and convincing (preparing ready to consume informations) to plenty of tablet/software bloggers?
<KotCzarny> or just at SEO
<muvlon_> I didn't find it hard at all to come across linux-sunxi
<muvlon_> in fact if i google any of the popular sunxi boards (bpi, cubieboard, etc.) linux-sunxi is always in the top
<KotCzarny> muvlon: yeah, me neither, actually coming here saving me from buying a83t board which is still unsupported (2 years or more)
<muvlon_> if you actually google for "Allwinner {SoC Number}", linux-sunxi is pretty much always the top result
<KotCzarny> yes, googling 'allwinner' makes it 4th result (but google might be skewed by previous searches, so should be done on virgin browser)
<KotCzarny> who has wikipedia edit rights? adding to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allwinner_Technology#See_also might help too
<KotCzarny> or even as a whole paragraph
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<MoeIcenowy> wens: I didn't do anything for HSIC...
<dan0_0> Hmm, so getting some lovely effects on Armbian 5.25: http://imgur.com/dKlzZlu
<dan0_0> Dual cursors and cursor trails/ black squares that don't render
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<wens> MoeIcenowy: exactly
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<jelle> wens: hi
<jelle> wens: the nanopi air, uses the same Ampak AP6121 as the bananpi m2+, for which I think you added support (in dts). I couldn't however got it to work with a build-in brcmfmac driver. Any tips?
<MoeIcenowy> jelle: at least please enable the MMC controller
<MoeIcenowy> thus at least a card can be recognized
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<jelle> MoeIcenowy: where in /proc or /sys does it end up then?
<MoeIcenowy> in dmesg there will be something like "new SDIO card"
<jelle> ok
<MoeIcenowy> and at /sys/bus/sdio/devices there's an item
<jelle> I think I didn't see that yesterday
<jelle> MoeIcenowy: for me this is unknown territory :)
<MoeIcenowy> the message should be "mmcx: new high speed SDIO card at address xxxx"
<jelle> ok
<MoeIcenowy> for a card to be recognized, please ensure it's properly powered and enabled
<MoeIcenowy> you can refer to sun7i-a20-cubietruck.dts
<jelle> MoeIcenowy: looked at the datasheet and it looked a lot like how the card was wired in the bananapi m2+
<jelle> MoeIcenowy: thanks, I'll try that later this week
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<MoeIcenowy> thus you can just check sun8i-h3-bananapi-m2-plus.dts ;-)
<jelle> MoeIcenowy: that's what I did
<MoeIcenowy> and have you got the eMMC working?
<jelle> MoeIcenowy: well no
<jelle> also not sure how I can access eMMC or boot from it. Couldn't find much info about it
<MoeIcenowy> refer to m2-plus again ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> especially see &mmc2 part of it
<jelle> MoeIcenowy: oh I copied it
<montjoie> I hate bpim2+
<MoeIcenowy> montjoie: ;-)
<montjoie> gigabit that does 100megabit
<jelle> lol
<MoeIcenowy> montjoie: even with BSP/sun8i-emac?
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<montjoie> with sun8i-emac the max TX is 180
<montjoie> randomly get 100 or 180
<MoeIcenowy> how about BSP?
<montjoie> not tested
<MoeIcenowy> or maybe you just got a broken board?
<montjoie> perhaps
<MoeIcenowy> P.S. how is sun8i-stmmac now?
<montjoie> I need to publish last version
<montjoie> waited to retest it on pine64 since it is the only real gigabit board I got
<montjoie> but the napi perf patch got nuked by dmiller:)
<KotCzarny> montjoie: why so?
<MoeIcenowy> First get it work, then enhance the performance ;-)
<montjoie> Because I follow NAPI doc from linux-fundation and in fact he dont like that
<KotCzarny> o.O
<montjoie> but I found a similar way to do that in intel igb intree
<montjoie> just I need a minor change
<montjoie> and it will be acceptable I think
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<wens> montjoie: what other boards do you have? i just re-did a83t ccu support
<montjoie> I got also bpim3
<montjoie> wens: I vote for A83T support:)
<montjoie> without it, I need to refound where I put your old tree source for it
<jonkerj> backlog of last month suggests that mripard has submitted a patch which fixes the 'mmc clk timeout' bug in 4.10, but I am failing to find the commit
<jonkerj> backlog sais wens accepted it. Can anyone point me to the patch/commit, so I can check/fix my local repositories to backport that patch?
<MoeIcenowy> jonkerj: commit 2154d94b40ea2a5de05245521371d0461bb0d669
<MoeIcenowy> in torvalds/linux
<MoeIcenowy> It's a ugly hack.
<wens> montjoie: well, there's no pmic support, so you have to enable the related regulators in u-boot
<montjoie> wens: it is already the case
<montjoie> I used your uboot tree also
<wens> montjoie: i have to work out some new bindings for the prcm before any of that happens
<jonkerj> MoeIcenowy: tnx
<wens> this is the latest. no usb support yet
<jonkerj> backlog also suggested that this would be a DT-only fix, but I don't care as long as it works :-)
<MoeIcenowy> I wonder whether it is worth to buy a BPi M3 now
<tuxillo> morning
<MoeIcenowy> jonkerj: the correct fix is a DT fix
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<MoeIcenowy> but this is tenporary ugly hack
<jonkerj> do you have a reference to that as well?
<jonkerj> or do you mean it should be fixed in DT somewhere in the future?
<MoeIcenowy> yes
<MoeIcenowy> thus this patch wlil be reverted once DT is fixed
<jonkerj> ah, it even mentions that in de commitlog. In 4.11 things will be better
<jonkerj> tnx
<wens> MoeIcenowy: i don't know, but i already have 3 A83t devices, might as well get them working
<MoeIcenowy> P.S. the current U-Boot EFI cannot boot a linux kernel well in non-secure mode
<wens> which SoC?
<MoeIcenowy> A33 and H3 failed
<MoeIcenowy> but A10 works
<MoeIcenowy> (Seems that it's because A10 do not have SMP ;-)
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<wens> that just means the EFI firmware lacks the proper secure setup stuff?
<wens> proper drivers for the hardware
<MoeIcenowy> seems that the EFI implementation of U-Boot do not properly alter the dtb
<MoeIcenowy> (e.g. simplefb section is not inserted
<wens> it probably doesn't call the dt fixup functions in u-boot
<MoeIcenowy> so maybe PSCI node is not installed?
<MoeIcenowy> P.S. If the kernel is booted from a GRUB, thus things become worse
<MoeIcenowy> even UEFI info is not properly inserted into dt
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: this is armv7?
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: iirc the grub patches to boot linux via usb stub in efi grub on 32bit arm were not accepted into grub yet
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: so you're basically stuck with an efi grub (so from u-boot's pov it's all efi) which then suddenly switches into traditional legacy bootz style boot mode
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: u-boot's bootefi doesn't create a simplefb device tree node, because the efi way to pass the frame buffer on is efifb (efi gop)
<wens> sounds like a big oops
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<agraf> MoeIcenowy: and you don't want to have the fb described in both simplefb and efifb :)
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<agraf> MoeIcenowy: as for the other failures, I wanted to have a look this week
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: so H3 also fails? that's good news
<agraf> afaerber: ^
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<wens> olimex laptop uses edp converter, wonder which one
<MoeIcenowy> agraf: I did some code change to efi_gop, to pass by the console of cfb_console
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: you mean skip it?
<MoeIcenowy> not skip
<MoeIcenowy> the original efi_gop code only support the LCD framework
<agraf> yes
<agraf> i didn't realize we have more frameworks in u-boot
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: so efi gop currently supports dm video and lcd
<MoeIcenowy> yes
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: could we not just move cfb_console to dm_video?
<MoeIcenowy> montjoie: OtakuNekoP got 740Mbps on his BPi M2+ with 3.4 kernel
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<MoeIcenowy> maybe you should test with the stock image
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<montjoie> I will try
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<agraf> MoeIcenowy: so which board uses that thing?
<MoeIcenowy> "that thing"?
<BroderTuck> wens: according to an earlier blogpost it seems they use ANX6345 for eDP on the laptop
<beeble> wens: checked the schematics, its anx6345
<beeble> so it used the parallel display interface. so no (r)gmii
<MoeIcenowy> you are talking about Olimex Laptop?
<MoeIcenowy> if it's really parallel display interface, it is something interesting ;-)
<wens> beeble: you mean lvds/mipi? :p
<MoeIcenowy> (if it's DSI, it's disaster
<wens> dsi is a blob :/
<wens> beeble: do you (or anyone over there) know how to do sigma-delta modulation on the allwinner socs?
<MoeIcenowy> wens: The A33 user manual have some info about DSI
* wens needs a crash course on clock frequency fuzzing
<beeble> wens: i have no idea. have to ask around
<beeble> wens: and i mean rgb. a64 has an rgb and a dsi interface
<beeble> it uses the rgb
<wens> beeble: right, i meant rgb, as opposed to lvds or dsi
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<beeble> no lvds on a64
<MoeIcenowy> P.S. on A64 RGB is muxed with EMAC (*MII)
<MoeIcenowy> so Pine64 uses DSI screen
<beeble> MoeIcenowy: thats why i said no (r)gmii :)
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<wens> oh!
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<MoeIcenowy> and as A64 do not have integrated PHY, I think this means the EMAC is wasted
<beeble> yes
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<OtakuNekoP_> montjoie: the 10s test data, [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 904960 KBytes 741222 Kbits/sec, need longer?
<montjoie> OtakuNekoP_: could you test sun8i-emac/dwmac-sun8i on it ?
<OtakuNekoP_> montjoie: just tell me how pls :)
<montjoie> never compiled a kernel ?
<MoeIcenowy> montjoie: I think he never compiled a mainline kernel.
<OtakuNekoP_> I only compiled the BSP. :(
<KotCzarny> then give him kernel and modules pack
<MoeIcenowy> montjoie: which U-Boot config do you use for BPi M2+?
<montjoie> good question
<MoeIcenowy> wiki suggests orangepi_plus_defconfig
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<montjoie> it seems I used sun8i-h3-orangepi-pc-plus
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<MoeIcenowy> montjoie: is there any dt patches that enables sun8i-emac on bpi m2+?
<MoeIcenowy> oh got it
<montjoie> yes on the sun8i-emac branch
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<montjoie> oh diff for uboot sun8i-h3-orangepi-pc-plus vs orangepi_plus_defconfig I see MACPWR=SUNXI_GPD(6)
<montjoie> "immediate launch of compilation"
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<reev> Hi everyone i am using bpi m2+ and i have installed raspian lite on it and i am using it as access point through hostapd intially it was all good
<reev> but then i noticed error Feb 7 17:45:59 bpi-iot-ros-ai kernel: [ 56.789985] CFGP2P-ERROR) wl_cfgp2p_do_ioctl : wl_cfgp2p_do_ioctl: IOCTL req 0x8b03 on p2p0 I/F. Ignoring
<reev> in syslog and then my ssid went missing
<reev> any idea about this
<reev> also everytime i have to start hostapd i need to do this modprobe -v bcmdhd op_mode=2 to make it work
<reev> then this error shows up
<beLiefs> Can anyone tell me what I need to change besides pll_video timing and [disp_init] in script.bin to modify hdmi resolution?
<beLiefs> Do I need to build uImage?
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<beLiefs> H3 / OPI PC if it matters
<KotCzarny> for h3 im using modified uboot to use 1280x1024 instead of 1280x720. and simplefb
<beLiefs> that sounds about right
<beLiefs> DNI from OPI forums, or something else?
<KotCzarny> dont remember, will check
<beLiefs> Was trying to combine that with loboris kernel tweaks, but I can't figure out where to begin reading.
<KotCzarny> um, you can be better of to use armbian kernel patches for h3
<KotCzarny> assuming you need legacy
<beLiefs> I need a functional desktop, and I like the OPIPC a lot
<KotCzarny> then check out the armbian kernel
<beLiefs> will do. thanks
<montjoie> MoeIcenowy: uboot config didnt change anything:(
<beLiefs> KotCzarny, awesome. Thanks.
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<darkusas> Hello, maybe someone already have compiled ip_gre module for pine64 kernel (3.10.104-2-pine64-longsleep) ?
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<dan0_0> IgorPec: any suggestions on how to make nand-sata-install run on boot without user input? What should I put in customize-image.sh
<IgorPec> you will need to do some rfc - tool was not designed for such usage yet
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<terra854> Hey guys, any updates on the A64 mainlining effort?
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<dan0_0> IgorPec: should I bring it up on Github or forums?
<IgorPec> if you rework the script just push it to github
<IgorPec> just make sure it works fine :)
<dan0_0> kk
<dan0_0> I'll look at the script and see what I can do, then make a pull request
<IgorPec> great. in case of questions / troubles, ping me
<fALSO> Anyone building the H5 kernel ?
<fALSO> I'm trying out the SDK and it fails in all ways
<fALSO> no instructions
<fALSO> and it tried to use amd64 and x86 binaries of gcc
<fALSO> and fails
<fALSO> they should at least say which distribution is reccomended :/
<buZz> who is they?
<fALSO> no instructions, just a build.sh
<fALSO> that fails in every way ;:(
<KotCzarny> that is xunlong
<KotCzarny> oranges maker
<KotCzarny> good hw, mediocre sw
<fALSO> this Orange PI PC 2
<fALSO> is awsome
<fALSO> 2 times faster than RPI3
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<IgorPec> check mainline preview images https://www.armbian.com/orange-pi-pc2/
<fALSO> But i wanted to recompile the kernel with a feature that original one doesnt have
<fALSO> zswap
<fALSO> Nice igorpec !!! didnt knew that url
<fALSO> that is NEW
<fALSO> =)
<fALSO> I created a Gentoo image for it:-)
<IgorPec> and this is build tool: https://github.com/igorpecovnik/lib
<fALSO> thank you igorpec =)
<TheLinuxBug> Armbian has been the best image (Linux) I have used for Linux desktop on PC2 yet. Didn't really spend much time on the server version, but I assume it works pretty stable as well.
<fALSO> I didnt even knew it existed!
<TheLinuxBug> All of Xunlong's images are pretty crappy
<fALSO> I created a gentoo image
<fALSO> with the kernel of the Debian xunlong version
<TheLinuxBug> Thanks IgorPec ;D
<fALSO> armbiang has 4.10.0
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: "that thing" means cfb_console
<apritzel> fALSO: now that's cute, they have next week's kernel already ;-)
<fALSO> im going to try it out today
<fALSO> i think that there was a problem on the latest kernels
<fALSO> that it didnt get the cpu temperature
<fALSO> and could fry it
<fALSO> maybe its fixed now =)
<IgorPec> just dont't expect too much , it's unpolished first preview, automated build, ...
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<fALSO> if it works
<fALSO> IM going to use it on my gentoo image :)
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<montjoie> OtakuNekoP: sunxi.montjoie.ovh/ethernet/{uImage|sun8i-h3-bananapi-m2-plus.dtb}
<MoeIcenowy> agraf: seems that most drivers under drivers/video uses the legacy video support and then cfb_console
<jemk_> ssvb: KotCzarny: it might be that the 256MB limit only applies to the mpeg engine of older socs, i've never looked deeper into that again
<jemk_> h3 definitely doesn't have it anymore
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<ssvb> jemk: ok, thanks
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: i only see it used on some NXP ppc systems and boards that don't ring any bell for me
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: plus omap3
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: so which one did you encounter it on?
<MoeIcenowy> of course, sunxi_display.c ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> if it's not this one, I won't say things in #linux-sunxi ;-)
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: oh, i see the dependency path now
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: heh
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: so yeah, always happy to review patches :)
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: please don't forget to cc me when you send them
<agraf> MoeIcenowy: i usually don't crawl through the ML
<MoeIcenowy> but I still doubt whether this patch should be sent
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<agraf> MoeIcenowy: well, it'd at least be a discussion ground
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<MoeIcenowy> agraf: oh efi_gop.c is by you ;-)
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<agraf> MoeIcenowy: well, all of efi_loader is :)
<MoeIcenowy> will sent it as RFC patch.
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<Wizzup> I was going to ask them to add SPI flash so we can some equivalent of a normal laptop 'BIOS' on there in case the eMMC dies, but someone else managed to suggest it, it seems
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<jelle> 2GB would be nice
<MoeIcenowy> In fact I a bit want a Olimex laptop sample ;-)
<jelle> :P
<jelle> MoeIcenowy: with 2 GB memories
<MoeIcenowy> even 1GiB is acceptable ;-)
<jelle> MoeIcenowy: you'd have to fix the blacklight controller then it will be usable for battery life
<MoeIcenowy> I think the backlight is PWM, right?
<jelle> MoeIcenowy: well they didn't have any code for it now, so it was always 100% :p
<MoeIcenowy> if they can provide me a sample I may advance it ;-)
<jelle> MoeIcenowy: they have 50 samples so maybe you can apply for one
<ElBarto> they don't have 50 yet
<ElBarto> main board isn't assembled
<jelle> ElBarto: uhh it says: " We have the hardware for 50 laptops ready (developer edition), but we do not want to ship before we take care for the software. "
<ElBarto> but they have the rest for 50 kits yes
<jelle> ohh I get it
<ElBarto> I'm in contact with Tsevtan and that's what he told me today
<jelle> oh I misunderstood the text ;-)
<ElBarto> this weekend I understood like you when talking to him
<ElBarto> they've just assembled 3 boards for FOSDEM
<jelle> yup seem them :)
<jelle> *seen
<ElBarto> also A64-Olinuxino is supposed to be available at the end of february
<fALSO> weird... the ORANGE PI PC2 images from armbian
<fALSO> doesnt have a fat partition on the start
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<fALSO> probably its not needed
<KotCzarny> its linux, change it if you prefer having separate /boot
<fALSO> nah. i just tought it was required, like in RPI
<MoeIcenowy> fALSO: with mainline kernel theortically it's not needed, as U-Boot can read ext4
<fALSO> im at work... going to try it when i get to home :)
<fALSO> moeicenowy, awsome
<fALSO> but is there any "bootloader" on the beggining of the card ?
<KotCzarny> yes
<KotCzarny> uboot
<MoeIcenowy> but some people get used to have a VFAT partition for boot, for example me
<KotCzarny> in the first meg of the device
<fALSO> OK :)
<MoeIcenowy> yes, u-boot-sunxi-with-spl.bin is written at 8K
<fALSO> you guys are awsome, i just found out this channel yesterday
<fALSO> before that I had little luck =)
<KotCzarny> go to linux sunxi wiki to see what goes where (mainline uboot page)
<fALSO> there isnt many info about the H5
<fALSO> Linux orangepipc2 3.10.65 #3 SMP PREEMPT Tue Nov 15 09:46:50 CST 2016 aarch64 GNU/Linux
<fALSO> love it =)
<KotCzarny> h5 is just a mix of a64 and h3
<fALSO> yes
<fALSO> and über fast
<KotCzarny> for fast you want a57 or a17 cores :P
<KotCzarny> it's just 'faster than previous a7 cores'
<fALSO> im waiting for a H5 with 2gb of ram
<Wizzup> MoeIcenowy: I asked for a sample of that laptop, they are making some more in the next few weeks
<Wizzup> I am also looking for screen upgrades already :p
<Wizzup> ElBarto: yes, they are sending out some a64-olinuxino samples
<willmore> fALSO how did you find this channel? There's been some recent talk about making it easier to find and your journey would be useful to know.
<fALSO> on the wiki
<fALSO> i was on #orangepi
<fALSO> no one talks there
<willmore> fALSO, how did you find the wiki?
<fALSO> googling for a way to build the kernel for h5
<willmore> Okay. That got your the wiki and the wiki got you here?
<fALSO> yes
<willmore> s/your/you
<willmore> Cool, thanks.
<willmore> Enjoy your board. I also have a PC2 and I'm quite happy with it. Are you familiar with the Armbian forums? Plenty of discussion there--especially for new users. #linux-sunxi is more kernel development focused.
<willmore> BTW, never heard of #orangepi. ;)
<KotCzarny> there is no point to go to vendornamed channels, there is only linux-sunxi (for dev) and armbian forums for os ;)
<fALSO> yes, I already had a PC1
<fALSO> and the other H3 with 512mb
<fALSO> and I had amrbian on them
<fALSO> But since i got the pc2, i've been always watchin the armbian site and never saw it there
<KotCzarny> because its a new soc
<Ke> KotCzarny: if it only was "There is only stock kernel and mainstream distros" ;o)
<fALSO> and in the forums it seems that the devs didn like it that much
<fALSO> becuse it was an "HACK" or something
<KotCzarny> ke: one could dream ;)
<fALSO> but ssems its OK now=)
<willmore> KotCzarny, good, maybe that's why I never went there. ;)
<willmore> fALSO, Orange Pi One?
<fALSO> yap
<fALSO> let me check
<MoeIcenowy> #orangepi is a strange channel
<fALSO> no one talks there
<fALSO> forget about it
<fALSO> i've been idling there for three days
<MoeIcenowy> I may suggest the official orangepi to set up an IRC chan
<willmore> Yeah, well, #armbian is similar. They prefer forums to IRC. And that seems to work for them.
<KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: or just suggest their dev to come HERE
<fALSO> hate forums, theres a lot of "NAZI" moderators
<willmore> MoeIcenowy, isn't #orangepi official? If not it should be ##orangepi, no?
<fALSO> irc is better
<fALSO> willmore, yes, I have a PC, ONE, AND THE PC2 now
<willmore> fALSO, you need a Zero. :) LOL
<MoeIcenowy> I think #orangepi is a random organized channel...
<fALSO> nah, no use for me
<fALSO> 256mb of ram
<willmore> fALSO, there is a 512MB version.
* willmore has two
<MoeIcenowy> I have a One, a Zero and a PC2, thus I have all SoCs yet used on Orange PIs ;-)
<fALSO> lets hope for a new with: H5 and 2gb of ram
<fALSO> lets hope for a new with: H5 and 2gb of ram - AAND SATA
<willmore> Just keep in mind the wireless works poorly and is unlikely to ever work well. Best to ignore it.
<fALSO> i've looked to the latest BANANA PI
<fALSO> but its like 70€
<KotCzarny> for sata grab uasp supporting dongle
<willmore> fALSO, no native SATA on that chip, so SATA will be over a USB->SATA adapter. Don't expect great performance.
<fALSO> ahh OK
<KotCzarny> willmore: actually uasp is chugging quite fast
<fALSO> its just usb :-(
<fALSO> didnt knew
<KotCzarny> 40MB/s r/w
<KotCzarny> and not that much cpu usage
<willmore> KotCzarny, compared to USB3 or native SATA, I mean.
<willmore> KotCzarny, great!
<KotCzarny> we have no usb3 in sight ;)
<willmore> That's up on my workbench to test.
<MoeIcenowy> some benchmark on linux-sunxi.org shows that USB2 UASP have better random I/O speed than Allwinner's native SATA
<willmore> KotCzarny, exactly.
<willmore> MoeIcenowy, that's funny!
<willmore> Make sure you only steal good IP, Allwinner!
<MoeIcenowy> but I forgot where to see it
<MoeIcenowy> and the sequentinal speed of native SATA is still better than UASP, of course
<willmore> fALSO, there is hope of an H5 board that works with the NAS I/O board. If it had GigE and 2GB, there would be a lot of happy people.
<fALSO> yes
<fALSO> 2gb would be awsome
<fALSO> lets wait =)
<willmore> If they made it the same size as the NAS board, that would make me happy, but I can understanding avoiding *yet another board outline*.
<KotCzarny> there is opi plus 2e, quite nice (which has 2gb)
<fALSO> but its h3
<KotCzarny> so? doing any cpu work on thos slow boards?
<fALSO> I use my H5 for php/mysql development
<fALSO> some python development too
<fALSO> works PRETTY well
<KotCzarny> you should really get a marvel board then
<fALSO> this ?
<KotCzarny> yeah, or any other that popped out recently
<fALSO> lets wait until they build them =)
<MoeIcenowy> I used to flash my Laptop with Coreboot on a Orange Pi One ;-)
<willmore> KotCzarny, 2e looks okay, but at fALSO said, H5 is the base of what is being requested. :)
<MoeIcenowy> (and of course the Coreboot binary is built on it
<fALSO> YEs h5 compared with H3 is MUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCH better
<MoeIcenowy> for H5 and 2GiB DRAM, maybe we should wait for Orange Pi 3
<fALSO> yes
<willmore> I don't know about that many 'C's, but it is a bit better.
<KotCzarny> willmore: but opi+2e is already in store and h5 is in early dev stage, and no 2gb device yet
<fALSO> bnut probabvly the orange pi 3
<fALSO> will have a H10 CPU
<willmore> KotCzarny, no hurry.
<MoeIcenowy> is there H10?
<fALSO> im just kidding =)
<willmore> MoeIcenowy, if the 3 has a NAS hat capable header, then I like it. ;)
<MoeIcenowy> no it won't have it
<MoeIcenowy> but you can apply your own UASP
<willmore> Or just the I/O expansion board from the Z.
<KotCzarny> willmore, just print nice case that will snuggly keep 3 uasp dongles ;)
<willmore> Yep, I have plenty of USB<>SATA UASP adapters.
<willmore> KotCzarny, good point.
<willmore> But that's a lot of wasted coiled up cable to fiddle with.
<fALSO> the problem with that stuff
<KotCzarny> then cut the cable and solder directly to port pads
<KotCzarny> ;)
<willmore> Hmm, a NAS board with a full SATA+power connector on it.....
<fALSO> its that you have to have an EXTRA power suplly
<fALSO> just for the HDD
<fALSO> i have a CHINESE ONE
<fALSO> but I dont want to leave that connected to the power all day
<MoeIcenowy> maybe they should make an advance version of Plus2 that uses UASP and H5 ;-)
<fALSO> dont want to start a fire at home .-)
<willmore> Well, 2.5" SATA is 3.3V and 5V, so no reason that couldn't be fed from a 5V supply with a small SMPS for the 3.3V. Like the existing NAS board does.
<KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: they will run out of names soon ;)
<MoeIcenowy> Call it Plus 3 ;-)
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<willmore> KotCzarny, don't tempt them!
<KotCzarny> willmore: it was her, not me!
<KotCzarny> ;)
<willmore> KotCzarny, you mentioned that they would run out of names. If they do, they'll just add something even more confusing. Don't tempt them!
<KotCzarny> they will anyway, thats 100% sure
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* willmore is trying to think of how a two drive direct drive connect NAS board would need to be laid out physically....
<KotCzarny> willmore: btw. when using usb dongle you only need 5v
<KotCzarny> and for my 12V drive i just use dual voltage psu
<fALSO> that stuff that youre talking about
<KotCzarny> never needed 3.3v
<fALSO> isnt that just for USB 3 ?
<KotCzarny> falso: nope
<fALSO> ahh OK
<fALSO> thanks
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<MoeIcenowy> P.S. a 2GiB DRAM board with a Orange Pi Zero-compatible header seems impossible
<fALSO> never heard about that, going to google moar
<willmore> KotCzarny, power over USB is not reliable enough to make me comfortable putting a drive on it long term.
<MoeIcenowy> as the OPi Zero header is designed to save some space on PCB
<KotCzarny> falso: just read linux-sunxi wiki, it's there
<MoeIcenowy> however, 2GiB DRAM willl cost a lot of PCD space
<MoeIcenowy> PCB *
<willmore> MoeIcenowy, and the lack of all those I/O connectors saves you some space. Also, (my opinion) you can make the board as big as the NAS board.
<willmore> So, you're not stuck in the Zero outline.
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<willmore> Again, this is just ideas inside my head leaking out.
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<willmore> I should probably have that looked at.
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<TheLinuxBug> willmore: lol
<TheLinuxBug> Was it ever decided if R40 had native SATA or not?
<KotCzarny> yes, it has
<TheLinuxBug> and if it was any more performant than A20?
<KotCzarny> but same performance as a20
<TheLinuxBug> figures
<TheLinuxBug> so what, you gain 2 cores and thats it pretty much? ( well 1gb more ram too I guess)
<KotCzarny> dont remember what else has changed
<TheLinuxBug> well
<TheLinuxBug> I would assume you also get actual gigabit on it
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<TheLinuxBug> instead of the 45M/sec limit cause its bound to 1 core on A20
<TheLinuxBug> or is that the same as well?
<willmore> Maybe more cores could mean less problems from CPU overhead.... Probably not.
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<BenG83> some impressions of the FOSDEM/sunxi dinner
<fALSO> very nice place
<KotCzarny> beards, beards everywhere
<BenG83> :)
* fALSO also sports a beard
<TheLinuxBug> lol
<KotCzarny> must ache.
<fALSO> i look like an ADULT
<fALSO> with the moustache :-P
<Wizzup> Hm.. I was at that place too, but likely a different table (on saturday)
<fALSO> wish I went
<fALSO> to go to the GENTOO BOOTH
<fALSO> get some stickerzzzzzzzz
<BenG83> :)
<BenG83> I have a prototype 11¨ Pinebook atm, should I start a wiki page?
<miasma> fALSO: regarding h10 chips, I think allwinner should make h7. now that intel/amd have i3/i5/i7 and R3/R5/R7
<willmore> BenG83, of course!
<fALSO> I was just kidding with that name :-P
<fALSO> because they keep releasing new cpus , without correctly supporting the older ones
<willmore> No, they should make an H11. Because it goes.... Oh, nevermind.
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<willmore> BenG83, I see more than one gender in that crowd. Yay!
<BenG83> :)
<willmore> But, yeah, lots of facial hair. Is that back in favor?
* willmore is not growing another beard.
<wens> don't see anyone i recognize though, maybe bbrezillon in the back?
<willmore> Who's the fellow in the foreground/left with glasses looking at the camera. They don't seem to be happy to be photographed.
<willmore> Unlike the person raising their glass. Cheers!
<wens> and maybe apritzel
<BenG83> the guy with the raised beer glass is Lukasz and the guy on the left is Dave
<willmore> Smile, Dave!
<BenG83> apritzel in the background
<BenG83> beside that I see ayufan and ssvb
<willmore> Can they get lables in the photo? It would be great to put faces with names.
<ElBarto> BenG83: it seems that I've been to the same venue for a FreeBSD dinner on saturday evening :)
<BenG83> :)
<BenG83> https://imgur.com/a/PsjfR PB in it´s natural habitat
<KotCzarny> peanutbutter?
<wens> :p
<BenG83> :)
<plaes> -whois BenG83
<plaes> BenG83: which one are you?
<BenG83> the one behind the camera :)
<montjoie> just see that "mmc2: new DDR MMC card at address 0001" on my bpim2+, does it is the nand ?
<plaes> ok, where did you sit? :D
<montjoie> since the real mmc is mmc1
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<montjoie> just after "mmcblk2: mmc2:0001 8WPD3R 7.28 GiB"
<BenG83> I was directly oppostie to ssvb
<plaes> I'm the one sitting next to raised beer
<BenG83> let me find a photo of me
<plaes> cool:)
<plaes> yeah, next to Ulvi
<plaes> ah
<plaes> my bad
<KotCzarny> :>
<willmore> plaes, bleu shirt and beard or staring down at table?
<plaes> yup :D
<willmore> Which?
<plaes> willmore: the light-blue shirt, left of raised beer
<wens> staring down at table seems to be ssvb?
<willmore> Hello!
<Pepe> hi
<plaes> yeah.. matching 3 things is hard - name, face and nick
<willmore> plaes, become an amateur radio operator and add callsign to that list. ;0
<plaes> I had one :(
<wens> did the lights go out this year?
<plaes> nope, I had it when I was involved in Estcube-1
<wens> i meant the restaurant :p
<plaes> not this time
<wens> ah, i remember in '15 the lights went out a couple of times, and the only light were the flames in the kitchen
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<nove> talking about the binaries blobs, good news, they get the bonus points back
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<willmore> nove, translation? :)
<willmore> Was that "but at least they don't need blobs for video decode"?
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<fALSO> sirs
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<fALSO> Im looking into what you talked about
<fALSO> something like this
<fALSO> would require an extra cable for - POWER; right ?
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<KotCzarny> in ge3neral, 2.5" would not need extra cable, 3.5" will require
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<fALSO> 2.5" disks
<fALSO> i have a lot of EXTRA IDE DRIVES :-P
<fALSO> 3.5
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<nove> one thing that tkaiser commented there, "1080p video on youtube in 1080p" can be very possible, but this is the same story, this is work that is only justified if there is a "community" that refuses to use "license issues" software
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<KotCzarny> if it would be that easy
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<MoeIcenowy> A64 DE2 is a disaster...
<MoeIcenowy> I cannot still clock it up...
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<jernej> MoeIcenowy: I'm also struggling with the same issue
<MoeIcenowy> jernej: ah-oh
<jernej> MoeIcenowy: I will take a look at /dev/mem on BSP kernel based image
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<MoeIcenowy> thanks ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> I have already deleted my BSP image...
<jernej> MoeIcenowy: Did you notice that DE is the only peripherial unit in this chain, which can be protected to require secure mode access
<jernej> I disabled trustzone, but it didn't help
<MoeIcenowy> it's de0-lcd1-hdmi
<MoeIcenowy> lcd1 and hdmi works well here
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<MoeIcenowy> (I have a HDMI screen that uses a simple naive HDMI-to-RGB bridge
<jernej> i know, TCON test pattern (blue screen) works as expected
<MoeIcenowy> (so that if the pixel dotclock is wrong due to TCON issue, it will be seen on the LCD panel
<MoeIcenowy> (just like the LCD panel is directly attached to TCON ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> I also tested blue screen
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<jernej> writing by mw.l also doesn't work, md.l always read all zeros
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<MoeIcenowy> in addition, according to apritzel, TZPC do not work on A64 except in secure boot mode
<MoeIcenowy> so you shouldn't face TrustZone problem ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> (because you will brick your device to really enforce TZPC ;-)
<jernej> ah, I remember this
<MoeIcenowy> maybe some power is not supplied?
<ElBarto> jernej: MoeIcenowy test pattern as generated by tcon directly ?
<MoeIcenowy> (without DLDO1 be enabled, the HDMI block won't work, it's the reason of my initial "HDMI phy init timeout"
<jernej> MoeIcenowy: Do you know what is "CCU security switch register" good for on A64?
<MoeIcenowy> ElBarto: yes
<jernej> ElBarto: Not exactly a pattern, but yes, test screen, deep blue color
<ElBarto> MoeIcenowy: do you have more info on that ? I know that Jared who is working on A64 hdmi is having trouble right now
<ElBarto> maybe that will help him
<MoeIcenowy> who's jared?
<MoeIcenowy> maybe he can join the talk here ;-)
<ElBarto> jernej: as long as it output a correct hdmi signal this would be better
<ElBarto> oh yeah I should add for FreeBSD :)
<ElBarto> he comes here sometimes
<jernej> ElBarto: Just set second bit in TCON global control register and you will get blue screen
<ElBarto> ok cool
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<jernej> ElBarto: This is described in A83T manual, but it works on A64 and H3 too
<MoeIcenowy> jernej: it also do not work ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> jernej: I think it's also described in A64/H3 manual.
<jernej> MoeIcenowy: What doesn't work?
<ElBarto> if it's in the manual I guess he have seen it, I'll check with him
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<MoeIcenowy> "CCU security switch register"
<jernej> Ok, but what it is supposed to do?
<MoeIcenowy> prevent non-secure world from accessing some critical clocks
<jernej> so, we can ignore all security locks on A64 for now?
<MoeIcenowy> yes
<MoeIcenowy> I tried to power all regulators up, and it do not work either...
<jernej> this only leaves some misconfiguration
<MoeIcenowy> misconfiguration?
<jernej> I mean, we are missing some bit somewhere
<MoeIcenowy> yes
<MoeIcenowy> but what's missing...
<jernej> I will check BSP kernel now...
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<MoeIcenowy> jernej: are you running Konversation on Pine64? ;-)
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<jernej> no, on my main laptop
<jernej> why are you asking?
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<MoeIcenowy> I saw you left and rejoined ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> it's only a joke ;-)
<jernej> ah, I had to reboot it, because I just upgraded kernel, you know, Arch
<MoeIcenowy> at least it won't have heap of old kernels ;-)
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<willmore> nove, oh, Olimex had avoided talking about binary blobs. Now they did. Okay.
<MoeIcenowy> the blob numbers in A64 finally become unbearable
<MoeIcenowy> and some critical logics are covered by blob (DRAM init)
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<willmore> MoeIcenowy, yeah, that's an upsetting one for me. Is there a complete list? DRAM, Mali, etc.?
<MoeIcenowy> no complete list
<MoeIcenowy> but there is a list for kernel blobs
<MoeIcenowy> (Although this list is just generated using a for loop in bash with "file" command by me ;-)
<willmore> Interesting. NAND? Why would that be a blob? The whole display pipeline, too? So confusing.
<willmore> Thanks, MoeIcenowy.
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<KotCzarny> willmore: to obfuscate some unlicensed hardware?
<KotCzarny> or 'here allwinner, you can have those third grade wafers, but you cant tell anyone you got it from us' ;)
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<MoeIcenowy> maybe it's really unlicensed hardware, at least for dwmac and dwhdmi
<KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: more and more blocks are showing up as 'already existing, just obfuscated'
<TheLinuxBug> Arg! need to figure out better dvfs settings for my S905x, everytime it runs with 1.5Ghz and I do anything intensive it just totally locks up :(
<KotCzarny> then downclock a notch?
<TheLinuxBug> yeah but next option is 1.2Ghz
<KotCzarny> you wont notice difference between 1400 and 1500 etc
<KotCzarny> oh?
<TheLinuxBug> feel like I am losing a lot there
<TheLinuxBug> yeah
<TheLinuxBug> the scaling govenor they used only allows presets
<KotCzarny> benchmark then, and compare if your fears are founded
<TheLinuxBug> 1200 then 1512
<TheLinuxBug> and only allows interactive or performance
<TheLinuxBug> no ondemand govenor etc
<beeble> KotCzarny: i think they would have problems manufacturing at tsmc with unlicensed cores
<TheLinuxBug> kernel probably needs recompiled
<KotCzarny> beeble: unlciensed as in second grade and without support/publishing/pr rights
<TheLinuxBug> KotCzarny: what is depressing is I added a bunch of heatsinks too and still overheats
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<TheLinuxBug> was reading about it and someone said they were able to get it running at 1.5ghz with heatsinks with no issue, I can not replicate that
<KotCzarny> TheLinuxBug: so, back to h5 ? ;)
<TheLinuxBug> IgorPec: do you guys plan to make an official image for the Khadas Vim (S905x) I noticed they use Armbian as their default Ubuntu image anyways, however, they seem to have optimized it very poorly.
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<TheLinuxBug> KotCzarny: funny you say that as I just downloaded the most recently nightly to test ;p
<IgorPec> thelinuxbug: we plan to add official support for Beelink GT, we got two boxes, the rest will probably remain unoffical way
<IgorPec> in best case, we will try to collect configs within build system
<TheLinuxBug> Well I ask cause it seems they literally are using a version of Armbian as their official Ubuntu image and it seems very poorly optimized from what I can tell, only have 2 cpu govenors avail: performance and interactive and seems to have set scaling options only, and running at full 1.5Ghz causes lock up, even with heatsink so I figure DVFS is in need of help too..
<MoeIcenowy> beeble: thus... maybe it's a reason that Allwinner keeps to use 40nm process? ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> (A83T seems to use a not obfuscated DW HDMI controller)
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<TheLinuxBug> IgorPec: I know they have one of their images that are in use posted in the Armbian forum, just no official release it seems.
<KotCzarny> TheLinuxBug: if they use armbian and kernel source is available, recompile, then submit changes to integrate maybe?
<TheLinuxBug> yeah may have to do that
<TheLinuxBug> at least to get better support for govenors like ondemand and better ability to control CPU frequency
<IgorPec> yes, afaik balbes is using amlogic kernel sources, not the one from Odroid C2
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<IgorPec> config is also a bit different but it's build using some older version of our build tools
<IgorPec> the idea is to merge all this stuff, but i can't tell when and which boxes will be possible to build directly
<TheLinuxBug> IgorPec: well I won't lie, my other thought was maybe if you did support it one day there might be an image with gfx accel support, but again maybe I can mess with that as well..
<TheLinuxBug> ;p
<TheLinuxBug> but I know that is a dream hehe
<IgorPec> acceleration should be possible to achieve, but i haven't dig into this amlogic much .. yet
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<TheLinuxBug> I was actually curious if the S905 and S905x were close enough that could actually try the odroid c2 image and possible have it work somewhat, but based on reading I am assuming there are some slight differences.
<fALSO> Linux orangepipc2 4.10.0-sun50iw2 #6 SMP Tue Feb 7 18:11:11 CET 2017 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux
<fALSO> nice
<fALSO> going to do some tests to compare with the v3 kernel
<TheLinuxBug> IgorPec: anyways, thanks for all your work and letting me bug you with stupid questions :D
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<IgorPec> Thelinuxbug: yes, there are some differencies, but you should reffer to bablbes for details. I am still learning them
<TheLinuxBug> k
<IgorPec> you are welcome. I would like to tell you more about, but I am also not there yet. much other things to do :)
<TheLinuxBug> will have to go re-read and attempt my own kernel at some point
<TheLinuxBug> see where I get to
<TheLinuxBug> IgorPec: I bet ;p
<IgorPec> yes, those huge topics at forum are a good start if you plan playing around
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<TheLinuxBug> interesting, managed to have it freeze up at 1.2Ghz now
<TheLinuxBug> which wasn't previously happening
<TheLinuxBug> :(
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<TheLinuxBug> seems I will need a fan to do anythign useful
<TheLinuxBug> that kinda stinks
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<tllim> MoeIcenowy and jernej: I will be in Shenzhen on February 21-25. If Icenomy interested, I can bridge up Icenowy and Allwinner engineer. Allwinner mentioned that they are not able to releaes LibDRAM source but willing to help up. when Sunxi encounter issue on HDMI development. Please advise on your thought and I can make teh arrangement.
<IgorPec> TheLinuxBug: https://i.imgur.com/rmTaPvwl.jpg :)
<KotCzarny> IgorPec: LOL
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<tllim> MoeIcenowy, if you have time on time on February 21-25, we can meet up either in Shenzhen or Guangzhou. I like to offfer you the PINE64 T-short and hoodie wich I pass to Sunxi folks during FOSDEM.
<TheLinuxBug> AHAHAH
<TheLinuxBug> yeah need something like that probably
<TheLinuxBug> I am guessing there is a big difference between the 'Pro' and Basic versions of this board as far as heat, I got the Pro version with 16gb emmc and 2Gb ram and it is immediatly running like 66-68c just idle WITH heatsinks while others say theirs runs around 60c
<TheLinuxBug> on the basic version
<TheLinuxBug> so I keep hitting the shutdown point of 70c
<TheLinuxBug> and the whole board freezes
<jernej> tllim: thanks, if we talk about HDMI, then wishlist is HDMI PHY and DE2 documentation and GPL2 licensed code in full without blobs and how to enable DE2 on A64 (clocks, gates, resets, etc.)
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<tllim> as mentioned, they may not provide the code. However, they are willing to engage in engineer discussion like Q and A, to resolve some outstanding issues that Sunxi facing
<jernej> tllim: for example, DE2 is opened up, but lack of GPL2 statements in half of files prevent us to reuse it
<tllim> If the file that already open up but lacking GPL statement, I may able to push for it.
<jernej> well, this is not limited to DE2, many files lack GPL header
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<tllim> IPINE64 recently has released an A64 BSP with GPL statement install that release from Allwinner, please check whether your concern still valid.
<tllim> you can download at PINE64 wiki site, http://wiki.pine64.org.
<jernej> I did, but I don't see any improvement, at least in DE2 part of the code
<jernej> let me check again
<tllim> please check, this release happens on last week before I travel to FOSDEM
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<tllim> if IceNoway interested on the offer, lets me know and I will make the ararngement to meet up with Allwinner. Allwinner BU2 is OK on such arrangement, eitehr email or meet in person.
<jernej> tllim: It will take a while to download it again, but anyway, presence of the blobs means violation of GPL2, so the problem is still present
<plaes> tllim: at FOSDEM dinner you also showed bunch of tablets with keyboard, is there ETA for those too?
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<tllim> plase, sorry that we are on table and not get chance to talk.
<tllim> the tablet with keyboard targets for Q2 release. However, PINE64 will make some prototype and pass to Sunxi team if interested, need to get the touch screen issue and concern resolve first.
<plaes> which touchscreen does it use?
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<tllim> jernej, I try to push whatever I can push. Frankly speaking, I don't think Allwinner will release LibHDMI source, they have their concern. They have told me their conecrn but I don't want mentioned in IRC publicly. You are welcome to PM me
<plaes> hmm :(
<jernej> tllim: we already know everything about HDMI controller, what is missing is PHY
<plaes> tllim: cool, this actually has mainlined driver
<tllim> plaes: yes
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<tllim> jernej: If you and icenomy can norrow down the missing info that you needed, I will to check with Allwinner.
<plaes> I actually wrote driver for gt801-2plus1 one, but they wanted me to adapt it to work with the newer driver :(
<tllim> tjernej: the offer was proposed by Allwinner, and I thinks is a good starting point.
<tllim> plaes: looks like I need to send out the first tablet prototype to you.
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<tllim> plaes: not sure whetehr you have the PINE A64 board and LCD panel. if not yet, I can offer free developer kits to you.
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<plaes> I wish I had more time.. :)
<tllim> This is first time I attend FOSDEM and definately will attend again next year.
<plaes> yeah, event is cool
<KotCzarny> plaes, gather sunxi folks, write list of topics with suggested resolutions and priorities, and give it to moeicenowy? :)
<plaes> apritzel: ^
<plaes> apritzel has some questions about the SID bits
* plaes is still tinkering with his A10 tablet :P
<plaes> btw, did A64 have CAN support too?
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<tllim> A64 don't have CAN support yet
<tllim> I can bridge up Icenowy to Alwiinner BU2 team, which is hadles A-series SoC.
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<tllim> As may already knows, Allwinner has 5 BUs (Busienss Unit) and like 5 seperate companies taht has their own sales and engineering.
<tllim> H series is BU3 and R series is BU5.
<tllim> The connection taht I have solely on BU2.
<tllim> this emns I only able to push on A-series related activity, and not able to extend to H, R, V or rest, except VR which also belong to BU2.
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<tllim> the HDMI code originated from BU3 (H-Home) team. The HDMI knowladge in BU2 team may not be as good as BU3
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<vagrantc> so, on an orangepi plus2 board i've got running 4.10-rc6, i'm getting lots of messages: [234651.168028] sunxi-mmc 1c0f000.mmc: fatal err update clk timeout
<plaes> vagrantc: running from mmc?
<vagrantc> it's running on usb rootfs, so that's fine ...
<vagrantc> or rather, it's running fine, just spewing those messages maybe 1 per second
<plaes> vagrantc: mmc was broken on those
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<vagrantc> oh wait... it had mmc on /boot
<vagrantc> and that's not mounted .... so not a great situation...
<plaes> yeah, thereś a patch for that
<vagrantc> plaes: it's been working for almost a year, until i upgraded to 4.10-rc6
<plaes> mhm.. gpio bindings were reworked
<plaes> and it broke
<vagrantc> that's more what i was looking for
<vagrantc> fixed in 4.10-rc7... or?
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<vagrantc> thank
<vagrantc> s
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<vagrantc> looks like that's in 4.10-rc7 ... so i'll just hae to wait
<vagrantc> seems like eMMC is fine ...
<plaes> yeah
<willmore> KotCzarny, that was my guess as well. Ethernet is OTS. DE is from DesignWare, no? One the plus side, the video decode engine is likely theirs, right? But they still managed to mangle the userspace code for that.
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<jernej> MoeIcenowy: I dumped almost all CCU region, but unfortunatelly, if I copy values over, it doesn't help
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<willmore> beeble, TSMC is the fab for Allwinner? I ask because I don't know.
<jernej> MoeIcenowy: You can find BSP A64 CCU values here: http://sprunge.us/jEQC
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<jernej> MoeIcenowy: not sure what to check next
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<KotCzarny> willmore, i wouldnt be surprised if VE isnt allwinners either
<ixnus> tllim: what about wens the sunxi maintainer ?
<plaes> ixnus: he already left :(
<ixnus> as maintainer ?
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<jernej> ixnus: tllim left IRC
<plaes> ^
<ixnus> sorry
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<willmore> KotCzarny, is VE the video encode?
<ixnus> please if you "see" tllim - remind him
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<KotCzarny> video engine
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<willmore> KotCzarny, does that do both encode and decode? I was under the belief that they were separate blocks.
<willmore> KotCzarny, that makes it even less clear. :)
<beeble> willmore: at least some newer ones are
<willmore> beeble, okay. I would have guessed the 40nm chips would be made in China. 28nm parts like the octo-A7 parts I can see. But, as was mentioned, they don't seem to use obfuscated register versions of their IP. So, you might be right.
<willmore> Oh, on a good note, my 128Mb NOR SPI chips finally arrived today! I have already soldered on into my early SPI-less OpiZ.
<willmore> Time to update that to mainline if it isn't already and get working.
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<beeble> willmore: i have to buy some hno3 and find a way to vent my office. then i can take look if there are any markings on the die
<KotCzarny> Video Engine is the plain name used by Allwinner for the hardware block responsible for the task of decoding and encoding video formats.
<KotCzarny> second paragraph
<KotCzarny> deconding and encoding
<nove> the video engine is only one block, but can simultaneous encode and decode (expect the ones older than A20, which can only do one task at a time)
<nove> it is guessed to be a custom hardware design by chipbanks.com for allwinner
<nove> a chipbanks.com email was as author for their kernel driver in the first sources released for A10
<KotCzarny> so, is there some block that is designed by aw 100% ? or they glued all pieces from other sources?
<willmore> beeble, go for it! ;)
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<willmore> Don't forget to heat the NO3 until it's almost boiling. :)
<willmore> nove, good info!
<willmore> KotCzarny, that page says that--depending on the data sheet you read--that it's either the VPU, VE, or video Engine.
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<willmore> So, I guess we can just refer to them all together by any of those names as I imagine any driver that touches one will control them all.
<KotCzarny> willmore, it depends on the soc generation, imo they changed the name for that block
<willmore> Yep, that's the confusion.
<nove> willmore: it is what happens when they don't have a marketing name, but for their ISP the gotten a fancy name of hawkview
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<willmore> nove, understood. Having a half dozen different business units all fiddling with things--and with who knows what level of code sharing or 'apropriating' internally. And documentation for that matter.
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<fALSO> anyone tried to build armbian for the pc 2 ?
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<fALSO> its fails right at the beggining with:
<fALSO> [ error ] U-boot file not found [ u-boot-sunxi-with-spl.bin ]
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<NiteHawk> plaes: thanks for contributing your fixes to sunxi-tools. do you consider that patchset complete, or are you still working on it?
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<willmore> Anyone mind if I edit the Orange Pi 2E page to correct the "other" entry in the info table from 'IRDA' to "CIR"?
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<willmore> Change made. Revert it if you don't agree. Pretty much nothing has IRDA these days, but lots of boards have Consumer IR receivers for remotes.
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<NiteHawk> willmore: CIR is correct, that mixup with IrDA is present on quite a fel device pages. I once made an attempt to clarify a bit on that, see the note at http://linux-sunxi.org/LIRC
<NiteHawk> s/fel/few/
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<jernej> apritzel: What is the proper way to put sunxi-spl.bin and u-boot.bin to sd card on mainline U-Boot? SPL can't find U-Boot on sd card...
<apritzel> jernej: it has to be u-boot.img, not .bin
<apritzel> jernej: and as always: 32KB behind the SPL
<apritzel> (which is hardcoded for sunxi)
<jernej> apritzel: ah, thanks, I missed that somehow
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<apritzel> jernej: are you after the H5?
<jernej> maybe there should be a convenience step which creates u-boot-sunxi-with-spl.bin
<apritzel> jernej: yes, I am on it
<jernej> apritzel: no, A64
<apritzel> it's a bit more complicated on 64-bit due to the ATF
<apritzel> H5 and A64 share the same approach
<jernej> I want to enable simplefb, but I and MoeIcenowy have issue how to enable DE2
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<jernej> all clocks are enabled the same way as on BSP kernel, but any writting at 0x01000000 is ignored
<jernej> apritzel: do you have any idea?
<jernej> now I'm so desperate that I started looking in mbus code... Basically anything which have to do with DE in any way
<jernej> it works on H5 without any issue
<apritzel> what's at that address, exactly? 4MB is pretty big for some registers ...
<jernej> 0x01000000 is base address
<apritzel> yes, but is it registers only?
<jernej> actually, it is separated in many modules
<apritzel> the manual says it's 4 MB big ...
<jernej> at base address, there should be around 5 32 bit registers
<jernej> then at 0x01100000 is MUX0 and at 0x01200000 is MUX1
<apritzel> OK, so very sparse register space ...
<apritzel> jernej: and writing to those register doesn't stick? can you read something sensible (reserved bit or so)?
<willmore> NiteHawk, so I'm free to fix them as I run into them?
<jernej> apritzel: writing doesn't stick, and initialized values are all zero, or at least it appears so
<apritzel> smells like not enabled
<NiteHawk> willmore: I'd say so. as you've already noticed, chances are slim you'll ever run into a sunxi device that has actual IrDA (as that would require a separate transceiver). the "native" IR0/IR1 on these SoCs should alway be standard 38kHz CIR
<apritzel> I think this happens if the reset gate is not asserted
<jernej> exactly, but I went over CCU many times, also copied BSP values to no avail
<apritzel> jernej: and you said you dumped the CCU registers space on a BSP booted system as well?
<jernej> apritzel: interesting enough, DE is the only part of video chain, which can be in theory secured
<jernej> yes, I can upload it if you want
<willmore> NiteHawk, okay, I'll clean things as I find them.
<willmore> I will, of course, make sure that I'm right in doing so first.
<apritzel> jernej: yeah, I see DE-TOP, DE-MIXER[01], DE-WB, DE-ROT, but I am pretty sure this doesn't work ;-)
* willmore is getting his feet wet with SPI NOR flash.
<willmore> So much reading.
<apritzel> jernej: unless you brick your board as I did ...
<jernej> apritzel: yeah, I dump also tz registers and they were all zeros on BSP
<apritzel> jernej: are the base clocks as on the BSP? AHB1, AXI, MBUS ...
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<jernej> apritzel: not exactly, but I changed them according to dump (http://sprunge.us/FKXc) but it didn't help
<apritzel> jernej: out of sheer despair: can you dump behind +0x320 with the BSP?
<jernej> apritzel: if it is important, I'm working with your h5 branch and sun50i_h5_spl32_defconfig
<jernej> ok, will do
<jernej> sorry,
<jernej> sun50i_spl32_defconfig
<apritzel> jernej: do you load ATF?
<jernej> no
<jernej> I'm a bit new to aarch64
<apritzel> argh, "git grep -i de" it not really useful ;-)
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<jernej> Does ATF any important initialization?
<apritzel> jernej: do you FEL boot? or SD card?
<jernej> felboot
<apritzel> jernej: you are just using U-Boot at this point, right?
<apritzel> with FEL loading and executing ATF is easy
<jernej> yes, only U-Boot
<apritzel> jernej: there is nothing in the ATF I can think of should matter
<apritzel> but I am just looking at Allwinner's original ATF code
<jernej> in BSP U-Boot DE address space works
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<apritzel> without ATF you should be in 64-bit EL3 in U-Boot, which is secure
<apritzel> the BSP U-Boot runs in non-secure SVC
<apritzel> but I don't think this matters
<jernej> well, previously I used 32 bit version, but there is no difference
<apritzel> 32-bit U-Boot should run in secure SVC
<jernej> so, both ways secure
<apritzel> yes, but it would be a bit backward if it works in non-secure, but is blocked in secure
<apritzel> you can try to load ATF, that would U-Boot run in (non-secure) EL2
<apritzel> clone the "allwinner" branch from my github, then: CROSS_COMPILE=aarch64-linux-gnu- make PLAT=sun50iw1p1 DEBUG=1 bl31
<jernej> for that I can use your h5 branch (u-boot)?
<apritzel> yes, that shouldn't matter
<apritzel> then just add: "write 0x44000 bl31.bin reset64 0x44000" to your sunxi-fel cmd line
<apritzel> with "spl u-boot-spl.bin load 0x4a000000 u-boot.bin" before
<apritzel> and this time it's the .bin!
<jernej> apritzel: I get this http://pastebin.com/cZwBJZrS
<jernej> 32 bit spl/u-boot
<apritzel> jernej: can you power-cylce the board?
<jernej> apritzel: should I remove AXP803 patch from my u-boot?
<apritzel> jernej: do you enable the HDMI PHY with that?
<jernej> DLDO1 is needed for HDMI, yes
<apritzel> I have that in my ATF patch queue
<jernej> you mean not public or not yet done?
<apritzel> not public yet
<apritzel> jernej: it's a simple patch, MoeIcenowy has it in her branch
<apritzel> jernej: basically change "ret = sunxi_pmic_write(0x12, ret | 0xc0);" into .... | 0xc8)
<jernej> ah, I took U-Boot patch
<jernej> Ok, I will disable PMIC code in U-Boot and use MoeIcenowy ATF
<jernej> apritzel: now there is no errors but also no u-boot prompt: http://pastebin.com/68YDBWVj
<jernej> this is my fel line: sunxi-fel spl spl/sunxi-spl.bin write 0x4a000000 u-boot.bin write 0x44000 ../arm-trusted-firmware/build/sun50iw1p1/debug/bl31.bin reset64 0x44000
<jernej> uh, should be u-boot 64 bit?
<apritzel> jernej: can you try again? I think there are some stability issues. Do you have MoeIcenowy patch with the increased delay in?
<apritzel> jernej: oh yes!
<apritzel> copy the SPL somewhere
<apritzel> CROSS_COMPILE=aarch64-linux-gnu- make pine64_plus_defconfig
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<jernej> apritzel: now it works, thanks, but unfortunatelly, situation regarding DE memory is the same
<apritzel> too bad!
<apritzel> jernej: did you copy the DE init sequence from the BSP as well?
<jernej> apritzel: No, I wrote it based on datasheet and jfm DE2 mainline driver and it works on H3 and H5 without issues
<jernej> BSP DE2 code is scattered beyond belief
<apritzel> maybe some "external" enable bit sticks out somehow?
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<apritzel> external as in not-CCU or not-DE MMIO
<jernej> apritzel: I guess this is the only thing I can try now
<jernej> apritzel: btw, what has mbus to do with DE? I saw something about that in the code
<apritzel> jernej: good question ;-)
<apritzel> jernej: AFAIK it's about bus arbitration
<jernej> apritzel: so this is not the issue then
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<apritzel> probably not
<apritzel> my understanding is that it allows to prefer DE memory accesses over the CPU, for instance
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