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<loganaden> libv: hoi !
<loganaden> libv: morning
<loganaden> I opened up the case
<loganaden> the board ref is : INET-K70-REV02
<loganaden> Zeng-gc 2013-05-21
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<mnemoc> oliv3r: the most difficult part is to integrate the mali libs in the hwpacks
<mnemoc> in the nightlies, u-boot and kernel can be taken from the prebuilts. script.bin is trivial, myboard.dtb is already part of the kernel package when available. but userland libs...
<mnemoc> oliv3r: we would also need to add branches to the hwpack. 3.4, stage/3.4, -next and -devel
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<Net147> what's the process for building u-boot for A20 NAND? I am using u-boot-sunxi lichee-dev-a20 branch but the bootup process stops after printing the amount of NAND available (3480 MiB)
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<rellla> physis: for the case you want a linux build, it seems so. it bit outdated, yeah. some older Frodo...
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<diegomos_> Hello
<diegomos_> I have problem with codec audio in my A13
<loganaden> libv: yep
<loganaden> that's it !!!
<loganaden> libv: I want to recompile android for the fun :-)
<loganaden> libv: downloaded the A20 kit, but it seems to be android 4.0 :/
<diegomos_> audio not work
<loganaden> libv: the firmware shows that it supports android 4.2.2
<loganaden> libv: the SDK is not up-to-date it seems :-(
<HeHoPMaJIeH> loganaden: http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/tsvetan/ANDROID-4.2.2-SDK2.0-KERNEL-3.4/ please download SDK from here
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<diegomos_> Hello HeHOp
<loganaden> HeHoPMaJIeH: thanks
<loganaden> HeHoPMaJIeH: do you have the same hw ?
<diegomos_> HeHoPMaJIeH you can help Me?
<HeHoPMaJIeH> loganaden: yes i have a20
<loganaden> HeHoPMaJIeH: inet 701c ?
<HeHoPMaJIeH> loganaden: what is this mobile phone ?
<loganaden> HeHoPMaJIeH: http://linux-sunxi.org/Inet_k70hc
<libv> loganaden: again, i have no idea about android or sdks
<loganaden> HeHoPMaJIeH: a table
<loganaden> HeHoPMaJIeH: a tablet
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<loganaden> libv: so i guess i'll be the first one to try it :-D
* libv just got the wrongly named mk802+ clone which really is called ak-212
<diegomos_> Who have A13 board?
<libv> diegomos_: why don't you ask your actual question?
<JohnDoe_71Rus> diegomos_: I have a tablet with a broken screen
<libv> diegomos_: many people here have a13 hw
<diegomos_> ok
<wens> libv: any luck with the UART on a23?
<diegomos_> the question its the sequent:
<libv> wens: i didn't try, but the a727 guy on the ml got at least TX going
<diegomos_> I boot my A13 with SD android card
<libv> wens: the two pads are pretty obvious, just never edited the script.bin to find out
<wens> uart0 is only muxed on PF (micro-sd breakout), so that's a no-go
<diegomos_> but I have audio problem
<libv> wens: but the two obvious pads are not muxed on the micro-sd
<libv> when i measured those, they were not tied to the micro-sd
<wens> I was thinking of using hans' half working u-boot SPL on SD with uart1, so far no luck
<diegomos_> when I type in konsol dmesg gpio
<diegomos_> I obtained :
<diegomos_> audio codec_wakeup request gpio fail!
<diegomos_> what is the problem?
<diegomos_> How to resolve it?
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<libv> diegomos_: do not privmsg people.
<diegomos_> libv you read my problem?
<libv> diegomos_: did you try googling?
<diegomos_> yes
<libv> nownow, that's not nice: https://www.olimex.com/irc
<libv> seems you were whinging in #olimex yesterday as well
<libv> diegomos_: plus, "SD android card" doesn't sound like it has anything to do with us.
<diegomos_> yes because , after googling i have not results for mai problem
<diegomos_> I not speak english correctly
<libv> no, your english is good enough
<diegomos_> When I boot A13 from SdCard, with android audio not work
<libv> yes, we all read as much
<libv> diegomos_: what android sd card is that?
<diegomos_> 4.0.3 imag
<diegomos_> image
<diegomos_> downloaded from olimex link
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<diegomos_> 0 [audiocodec ]: sun5i-CODEC - audiocodec sun5i-CODEC Audio Codec 1 [sndhdmi ]: - sndhdmi sndhdmi
<diegomos_> when i type cat proc/asound/cards
<libv> diegomos_: then it is fully an olimex problem.
<diegomos_> I dont now
<libv> diegomos_: if you have tried our stable kernel and still have that issue, by all means, come back
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<diegomos_> stable kernel?
<diegomos_> How try ?
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<libv> diegomos_: i suggest you take it up in #olimex first.
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<libv> aha
<libv> if the board is marked st-g<something> it is made by semitime.
<libv> seems like we have a proper name for this android stick.
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<Net147> libv: how much does the stick cost?
<libv> i plucked it second hand off of ebay
<libv> we have it badly documented as the mk802+_a10s
<Net147> libv: link?
<Net147> it's so small =)
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<libv> it's your standard mk802 type stick
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<nabblet> hi, when using crossdev can i use target armv7a for alwinner a20?
<mru> sure
<nabblet> mru: well there are different choices like arm, armv7a and what not (if you happen to know a list of all possible targets please tell me) and i don't knwo which one to take
<nabblet> also at some target-tupel crossdev fails
<mru> the cortex-a7 cpu is an armv7a
<mru> so that should work
<mru> other choices might also work
<swabbles> nabblet: armv7a-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi
<mru> that's a reasonable choice
<mru> is there any convention for enabling hw sdiv/udiv instructions?
<nabblet> swabbles: yes, that is what i found too
<nabblet> i tried different configurations but most failed to emerge
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<nabblet> arm-unknown-linux-gnueabi
<nabblet> armv7a-hardfloat-linux-gnueabihf
<nabblet> those are the two that i sucessfully built so far
<swabbles> What?
<mru> the first of those probably gives you an armv5 compatible build
<nabblet> arm-unknown-linux-gnu fails
<mru> yeah, you really want eabi
<nabblet> well so far some debian and gentoo sites were most useful
<swabbles> I am somewhat surprised that gnueabihf works, but gnueabi doesn't.
<nabblet> but non of them really explains what the difference really is
<nabblet> not to speak of a complete list of options
<nabblet> swabbles: it does. i tried gnueabi too but it failed
<swabbles> mru: can't you like use mcpu for sdiv/udiv?
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<mru> arm-whatever-linux-gnueabihf is usually the same as arm-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi
<mru> swabbles: sure, but is there a way to make crossdev set that automatically?
<swabbles> nabblet: hardfloat/softfloat is FPU or software emulation, gnueabi is the ABI to use, linux is the kernel to support.
<mru> like -hardfloat- triggers -mfloat-abi=hard
<swabbles> mru: no, you normally use make.conf for that.
<swabbles> Oh, I don't know.
<swabbles> I only use crossdev to compile kernels.
<nabblet> swabbles: oh, i know what they different parts of the target do
<nabblet> swabbles: but i don't know all choices for the different parts of the flag
<mru> make.conf is fine until you hit a package that overrides cflags
<nabblet> for example i thought there is only arm and armhf
<nabblet> just by browsing i found others using armv7a
<mru> debian has really caused a mess of naming conventions
<nabblet> yes that too
<mru> just because their package manager is too stupid
<nabblet> i already got a bit confused
<swabbles> There is a way to have crossdev list those values, try crossdev --help.
<mru> dpkg has a hardcoded list of architectures
<nabblet> seems like gentoo and debian are each cooking their own soup
* swabbles doesn't have crossdev installed on any of his ARM machines.
<swabbles> :)
<mru> why would you install crossdev *on* an arm machine?
<mru> to build x86 code?
<swabbles> >why would you... exactly.
<mru> my fastest computer is still x86
<mru> so that's where crossdev goes
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<swabbles> I have like one machine with crossdev, which I never use.
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<nabblet> crossdev -t help
<nabblet> armv7a is not listed there
<mru> crossdev is rather flexible in what it accepts
<mru> I've even used to build for completely "unsupported" architectures
<mru> like blackfin
<nabblet> blackfin is listed
<mru> it wasn't then
<nabblet> now it is
<nabblet> hm, so now that i have the crosscompiler set up
<nabblet> i compile kernel and bootloader, right?
<swabbles> mru: speaking of packages overriding cflags... Why did they break the Firefox ebuild once again? :')
<nabblet> then prepare the sd-card (partitons) and copy the bootloader, kernel and stage3 on it
<mru> it's the firefox way
<mru> swabbles: seriously, I didn't notice anything broken recently
<mru> what's wrong this time?
<swabbles> mru: Firefox 28 was breaking on libtheora (missing symbols IIRC, was a few days ago).
<swabbles> Never got Thunderbird to build on ARM btw.
<swabbles> Next time I'll remember to just store working ebuilds in a local overlay...
<swabbles> nabblet: yes.
<nabblet> swabbles: would it be safer/easier/faster to just use the kernel and bootloader from the debian that is installed by default?
<nabblet> it is an olimexA20 board
<nabblet> and they provide a working debian image
<nabblet> so i could borrow kernel and bootloader from there and do all the compiling on the olimex itself
<mru> if that kernel has the features you need, sure
<swabbles> Should work, then you can also compile the kernel and boot loader on the ARM board itself :).
<nabblet> well, i just need it to compile a gentoo kernel
<nabblet> yes, that's the idea
<mru> now I like my kernels building in minutes rather than hours
<mru> you could also grab a linaro prebuilt toolchain
<nabblet> hm, i think an allwinner a20 can do it in reasonable time, no?
<mru> no
<swabbles> Depends a bit on the config, though.
<swabbles> If you're going with Ubuntu's defaults, then good luck.
<mru> same config will build much faster on a reasonable pc
<nabblet> ok
<swabbles> Ironically, it would also build faster on my Samsumg Chromebook.
<mru> my usual config takes a few minutes at most on a quad i7
<nabblet> since i am new with all this and usually don't really know what i am doing i prefer to do mistakes as fast as possible :P
<swabbles> But that's because the A15 is a lot faster than the A7.
<mru> yeah, the a15 is much faster
<mru> almost twice the clock frequency and about 3x faster per cycle
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<mru> but a 3GHz i7 is much faster still
<swabbles> mru: hence why I have one of those, but I don't find myself using it often.
<mru> why do you normally use?
<mru> *what
<nabblet> so, it is also possible to use two different targets for crossdev and both might turn out to be working on the actual hardware?
<mru> of course
<swabbles> My Chromebook atm.
<swabbles> That's the only thing that compile Firefox in a decent amount of time.
<mru> the chromebook makes a nice a15 test system
<mru> but between the low-res screen and the crippled keyboard, it's a rather painful experience to do actual work on it
<swabbles> I am waiting for the new one from Samsung.
<nabblet> woot... crossdev just was able to emerge a target it could not emerge before Oo
<swabbles> Which is like 1080p, 4 GiB RAM and a Samsung Exynos 5422.
<nabblet> running the same command twice made it work...
<swabbles> But I don't mind using the current one. It's decent enough for me.
<swabbles> The actual pain is getting software to work on it.
<nabblet> anyone of you ever experienced that kind of behavoir from crossdev?
<swabbles> nabblet: no, but it may be an idea to read the logs, if you run into issues with crossdev.
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<nabblet> swabbles: i read the logs. i ran the command a second time by accident
<nabblet> and the second time it did not run in any errors
<nabblet> i'll try to double-crossdev previously failed tragets... just to know
<nabblet> is the cortex A7 based on cortex a9 ?
<ccaione> cortex-a9 is a armv7
<nabblet> ok, thx
<nabblet> just saw someone metioning that armv7a worked for is cortex-a9
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<mru> cortex-a9 and cortex-a7 are both armv7a implementations
<libv> hrm, perhaps i should move the new_device_howto link to the top of the devices
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<ccaione> libv: otherwise just put a huge red note in the linux-sunxi homepage
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<Turl> libv: have you seen the news?
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<wens> what news?
<libv> ah, a whole month :)
<mnemoc> $10k :)
<libv> how does on get that through taxes?
<libv> s/on/one/
<libv> anyway, not our problem, and good that someone who has done rpi lowlevel stuff has managed this
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<labrador> hello
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<ssvb_> libv: much less than a month :)
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<ssvb_> libv: his repository has been available to public since around https://github.com/simonjhall/challenge/commit/9c4632d60962c9eb3478306ab32e84ae02466b72
<ssvb_> libv: more recent commits are mostly tweaks, cleanups and optimizations
<Turl> *twitch* build output on a git repo
<Turl> :)
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<ssvb_> Turl: that was a speed programming exercise, I believe the binary build there was as kind of a proof that he had it done at that time
<labrador> hey Turl :)
<Turl> ssvb_: git commit dates can easily be faked, not much of a proof
<Turl> hi libv
<Turl> err labrador
<ssvb_> Turl: I guess he had submitted a claim for the reward at that time
<mru> does github record the time something was pushed there?
<ssvb_> mru: the repository was available to public at that very time, anyone could clone it
<Turl> mru: if author != committer, I think so
<mru> a timestamp originating on github systems would be hard to fake
<mru> unless you can bribe an admin there
<ssvb_> mru: the link to this github repository was floating in #raspberrypi-internals since a long time ago
<mru> of course if I post something anywhere on the net and give you a link, that'll convince you that I have the thing right now
<mru> it's harder for me to prove a week from now that I really had it today
<Turl> yeah
<ssvb_> mru: yes, that's why you submit a clam for the reward to the relevant people today and not one week from now :)
<ssvb_> *claim
<libv> wtf
<libv> bloody indians
<ssvb_> indians?
<libv> the rate of structured thinkers from india and pakistan to complete idiots is _very_ _very_ low
<Turl> libv: they get a lot of sw business though
<libv> Turl: based on headcount only.
<libv> Turl: the big consulting rip-off is to sell 1 good guy and 9 indians
<wingrime2> ssvb_: how much it PoC?
<wingrime2> ssvb_: this is usable far than our lima's quake?
<libv> of those 9, 2 might be useful, 2 are neutral and 5 are damaging
<mru> I just spent two weeks in india training a small team
<libv> mru: did you get lots of confirming nods?
<mru> these guys were actually well above average for india
<libv> did they always answer yes when you asked them whether they understood things?
<libv> ah, they must've been expensive
<mru> no, these guys actually ask when they don't understand something
<mru> most of the time at least
<mru> that said, they've done their share of stupid things to the code
<mru> like checking in changes that pass the unit "tests" but make the real application crash immediately
<libv> at nokia, after elop had blown up meego and the rest of the company
<libv> only few guys remained in our team
<libv> so a well known consulting company starting with an S sent in 3 finnish guys and 7 indians
<libv> one of those indians had "omap display engine experience"
<libv> 4 months in, he was still claiming he was documenting the code and the engine
<mru> hehe
<libv> luckily, only one bug was ever filed against vsyrjala his code
<libv> and once the teamlead assigned the bug to one of the finnish consultants, it was fixed within 24h
<libv> after 4 weeks of nothing from the indian guy
<Turl> nice gnocchi there
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<wingrime2> libv: so much expiraice )))
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<Turl> libv: so much NDHing today :p
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<labrador> Turl: do you have some time to continue with the clock issue ?
<Turl> labrador: I have like 10m
<Turl> labrador: what problem do you have?
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<labrador> hwclock: select() to /dev/rtc0 to wait for clock tick timed out: No such file or directory
<labrador> and if i poweroff the board it looses the date time even if the battery is plugged in.. goes 1970
<Turl> labrador: have you written the date to the rtc?
<labrador> hwclock gives me error
<Turl> check if you have any messages on dmesg
<labrador> error about rtc ?
<Turl> yes
<labrador> i dont get any error
<Turl> labrador: does eg /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/since_epoch work?
<Turl> (or wherever since_epoch is)
<labrador> 1396287956
<labrador> yes its working
<mru> that looks like a reasonable time
<Turl> and so if you do sudo hwclock -sD --test
<Turl> what happens?
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<labrador> i put it for sleep for a minute
<labrador> on wakeup i get
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<Turl> the driver is trying to resume before the i2c bus
<Turl> but let's keep it one issue at a time
<labrador> ok
<labrador> Turl: the command that you suggest hangs on waiting for clock tick...
<labrador> and after 3 sec
<labrador> it returns hwclock: select() to /dev/rtc0 to wait for clock tick timed out: No such file or directory
<labrador> ...synchronization failed
<labrador> i run it again.. and it completed succesffully
<labrador> run it again.. and got again the first error about /dev/rtc0 not ticking
<Turl> odd
<Turl> anything on dmesg?
<Turl> as an alternative you may use something like sudo date -s @$(cat /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/since_epoch)
<labrador> no.. just the mmc-err that not related to this
<labrador> Turl: this returns the current time
<Montjoie> labrador, the no such file or directory is about /etc/adjtime, I touch it for made hwclock works
<Turl> labrador: also sets it to the system (-s flag)
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<Turl> be back in a bit
<labrador> ok
<labrador> Montjoie: i have it and current content is: 0.000000 1396287840 0.000000 \n1396287840 \nUTC
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<Montjoie> labrador, my cubieboard is off, but I forgot if it is touch /etc/adjtime or hwclock --systohc that made it works
<Montjoie> need to see my history
<Montjoie> and need to add the correction to my cfengine
<labrador> ok
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<mnemoc> even a very very very small % of a huge population is a lot of people...
<mnemoc> err... wrong scroll :|
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<Turl> back
<labrador> nice :)
<labrador> Turl: also with the command hwclock -sD -test i also get the following error
<labrador> Lpcf8563 1-0051: retrieved date/time is not valid.
<labrador> ast calibration done at 13962887pcf8563 1-0051: retrieved date/time is not valid.
<labrador> 85 seconds after 1969
<Turl> those errors are probably showing up on dmesg, not from hwclock
<labrador> yes.. this is also shown in dmesg. but previously the not appeared.. i poweroff the board.. remove the battery powerit on again.. and i have that error
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<Turl> if you remove the battery the time is lost right?
<Turl> so it's normal it's invalid
<labrador> yes
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<labrador> but only if i poweroff the system and remove the battery
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<Turl> bbl
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<Gerwin_J> There is a delay with a80 soc
<Gerwin_J> until june
<mru> is that the ridiculous octa-a7?
<Gerwin_J> yes
<Gerwin_J> i don't why there is a delay
<mru> someone fucked up something
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<Gerwin_J> first the will start to make my prototype board next month
<libv> btw, i made a few changes to the front page
<mru> an octa-core is actually quite a bit more complex than a quad or dual
<Gerwin_J> today i get the bad news about the delay
<mru> since it has two clusters of 4 cores
<libv> i am thinking about moving the devices above the tutorials
<Gerwin_J> Eva don't respons on my messages today
<ccaione> libv: ;)
<libv> and above the quick reference guide
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: thats insider info or guess or rumors?
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: debuging big SoC need FPGA array with speical soft
<Gerwin_J> wingrime2: i get this information form a chinese company
<Gerwin_J> but benchmark results... Allwinner use a 1280*800 screen and galaxy note 3 use 1920*1080 screen
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: I read in some blog, than allwinner use it for a80
<labrador> brb
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<wingrime2> libv: a23 maximum freq?
<libv> wingrime2: no idea yet
<libv> claims to be higher than a20
<Gerwin_J> wingrime2: i hear last week all rumors about the delay. I know the chinese companies that work with allwinner.
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: we all expect a80, thats with be huge perfomance jump for us
<Gerwin_J> the company that make for me PCB designs tell me today there is a delay until june
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: nevertheless, allwinner tablets are rare in recent 3-4 mounth
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: but year ago they where almost everywhere
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: so, I hope they returns to market
<ssvb_> mru: a80 is a big.LITTLE a15+a7 octa-core
<mru> that makes more sense
<Gerwin_J> Eva tell me 2 months ago that the want first a80 tablets on the market
<mru> I remember reading about an octa-a7 device
<mru> maybe that was mediatek
<Gerwin_J> then other products with a80
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<mru> either way, it's much more complex than a quadcore
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<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: still leads some questions, why Aw slower than RK and MT ?
<Gerwin_J> but i don't know reason about the delay. The don't said that to me...
<libv> wingrime2: different process, no real optimisation, spending less money on masks from ARM and other IP providers, etc
<ssvb_> wingrime2: maybe enjoyed their success with allwinner a10/a13 and relaxed too much?
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<ssvb_> wingrime2: or are you asking why dual/quad cortex-a7 is slower than quad cortex-a9?
<Gerwin_J> but my project also get now some delay
<wingrime2> ssvb_: it maybe interesting too, but I sure thats result, out-of-order
<Gerwin_J> we are thinking about to take a20 chip
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: too many boards there
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: with a20
<Gerwin_J> im not making a dev board...
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: ?
<ssvb_> libv: is a23 really clocked at 1.5ghz? or was it a Chinese marketing again?
<Gerwin_J> wingrime2: i not make a tablet or hdmi stick
<libv> ssvb_: i have no idea
<mru> I've been doing some micro-benchmarking on a7 and a15
<mru> since there are no published instruction cycle counts
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: so whats is it, if thats not secret?
<Gerwin_J> secret
<mru> some instructions are actually faster on a7 than a9
<wingrime2> libv: hm.. ,maybe you can use devmem for read core pll multipler
<Gerwin_J> but im going take shower now
<Gerwin_J> about 10 hours im flying back to amsterdam
<Gerwin_J> form beijing
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: even so, there much stuff with a20, but all that stuff slow on linux currently...
<Gerwin_J> yes i know
<Gerwin_J> im really thinking what i go to do know
<ssvb_> mru: a9 is a dual-issue superscalar, a7 is not so much
<mru> yeah
<mru> a7 is single-issue
<mru> but some instructions have lower latency
<mru> the multiplier is faster for instance
<mru> 1 issue cycle, 3 cycles latency on a7
<mru> compared to 2/4 on a9
<wingrime2> Gerwin_J: even so if you not thinking about opensource and linux RK3066 or RK3088 must be faster...
<Gerwin_J> i will think about it
<wingrime2> ssvb_: so MediaTeck octa is marketing crap?
<libv> gah.
<wingrime2> libv: how far you sun3i interest?
<libv> wingrime2: none
<libv> wingrime2: but that shouldn't stop you from working on it
<wingrime2> libv: I have none firmware, but I find nice sunii hearders with HW regs
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<nove> maybe would be better to change my wiki user name to nove, who can make this change?
<mru> you could simply register again with that name
<nove> the wiki has the renameuser extension installed
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<libv> nove: just a sec
<libv> nove: The user "Mul" has been renamed to "Nove".
<nove> thanks
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<WarheadsSE> Hey, the CB2 vs the CBT -- which *mac do they use?
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<lioka> gmac on truck
* megal0maniac_afk is stuck with mali 400 graphics acceleration
<oliv3r> what's a mul? :)
<oliv3r> (i have to backread 4 days worth of logs )
<megal0maniac_afk> oliv3r: It's too late, don't bother ;)
<mnemoc> oliv3r: nove's alter ego
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<isaac__> hi!
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<isaac__> some one have idea on this error:
<isaac__> [~ 10%] gmac_open: Cannot attach to PHY (error -19)
<WarheadsSE> ^ 3 distros + android, his gmac is failing to attach to the PHY
<libv> megal0maniac_afk: how's that wiki paeg coming along?
<WarheadsSE> Don't have one, so I can't help, but either it is hardware, or horrible script.bin
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<isaac__> no idea?
<libv> what the...
<libv> i think they badly translated "designed to appeal women"
<libv> this is supposed to be the company behind our MID s906
<libv> hah
<libv> they have a picture of the various stages
<megal0maniac_afk> libv: Haven't started. Focussing on the review at the moment, and figuring out the device so I don't write rubbish :P
<mru> damn, I was expecting some kind of teledildonics device
<libv> "aging" probably should be called "Quality assurance"
<libv> megal0maniac_afk: it's a wiki, you can alter it as much as you like.
<libv> megal0maniac_afk: if you had started your wiki page on day 1, you could've documented whatever you encountered
<libv> and later on decide what is worth keeping
<libv> not wonder in a weeks time what it is that you did run into
<megal0maniac_afk> libv: I'm documenting locally. I'd rather put semi-refined stuff on the wiki
<libv> megal0maniac_afk: again, it's a wiki.
<libv> our example page gives your work structure, as well
<libv> "female sex tablets" sold at 40-50$ per kg... that's rather special :p
<isaac__> What is PHY on gmac module?
<mru> phee phy phoe phum?
<isaac__> PHY
<isaac__> * gmac_init_phy - PHY initialization
<isaac__> * Description: it initializes the driver's PHY state, and attaches the PHY * to the mac driver.
<libv> isaac__: google for phyceiver
<isaac__> but what is PHY???
<libv> ethernet phyceiver
<isaac__> ok I go
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<mru> isaac__: which board?
<isaac__> cubietruck
<mru> that has a realtek phy
<isaac__> I see thanks
<mru> you need to enable the driver for that
<mru> CONFIG_REALTEK_PHY
<isaac__> I can do in the fex file?
<isaac__> or recompile?
<mru> that's a kernel option
<mru> if it's not enabled you need to recompile
<isaac__> thanks
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<lioka> isaac__: if you don't mind to try another distro:
<lioka> ftp://ftp.linux.kiev.ua/pub/Linux/ALT/people/glebfm/altlinux-7.0.3-alpha20140327-simply-cubietruck-armh.img.gz
<lioka> gunzip and dd to 8G sdcard
<isaac__> ok I try it
<isaac__> But now I cant ... I post feedback tomorrow
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<isaac__> thanks for this
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<balika011> hi
<balika011> Does anyone ported / tried to port b2g to a13?
<mrnuke> PI released
<mrnuke> (or make that linux 3.14)
<nove> balika011: see this https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode14 "A Desktop Environment based on B2G"
<nove> balika011: this would be better than to use android as base
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<balika011> why is this better?
<nove> balika011: is better because you don't have to care for android, and instead b2g would be a simple package that could be installed in any GNU/Linux distribution
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<nove> balika011: meaning that if that summerofcode project is done, and with some littles changes, we will be able to install b2g without worry much about the hardware, and with the work here in the linux-sunxi kernel, A10/A13/A20 and others will be supported
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<balika011> I think I will try to port it to my TZX-Q8-713B board base tablet, when the new screen and digitalizer will be shipped. ( Yes, it's broken. :( )
<balika011> based on jb 4.2.2
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<libv> balika011: did you drop it, or did you break the device while opening it?
* libv killed one of his 3 early mali bring-up devices (telechips based) by being overly confident when opening it, yet again
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<oliv3r> libv: :p
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<balika011> drop
<balika011> one of my friends gave it to me, it was already broken. he dropped it. :D
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