<deasy>
i suppose to don't expect a support for old allwinner
<deasy>
good night all
<memleak>
what is the #cubieboard channel for if you can ask all your allwinner support questions here?
<wens>
beginner stuff, cubie image related questions
<memleak>
ah so all the advanced C stuff goes here, i see
<memleak>
Turl, are you a dev?
<memleak>
i remember you helped me out greatly a few weeks ago
<libv>
deasy: linaro will not help us
<libv>
at best, it will give allwinner a false sense of doing the right thing
<memleak>
libv, why not?
<memleak>
linaro is awesome...?
<libv>
memleak: oh?
<memleak>
linaro is bad?
<libv>
memleak: feel free to try and quantify that one
<libv>
memleak: what has linaro really done?
<libv>
memleak: name big linaro achievements
<memleak>
well they do a lot of kernel and gcc development
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<libv>
memleak: does linaro have a lot of community people, or does it tend to get staffed by expendable parts of the member companies?
<memleak>
i remember you though libv, you used to work for suse and did / do stuff with opening up the mali drivers so whatever you say i'll take it, i was just under the impression that they had good intentions
<libv>
memleak: take samsung
<memleak>
i recall them having a lot of their team made up of employees of other corporations
<libv>
memleak: what sort of people has samsung sent off to linaro?
<memleak>
i do not know..
<libv>
you just said so
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<libv>
quantity is what matters
<libv>
because those are the original linaro rules
<libv>
1m usd, and 6 full time employees
<libv>
so bring on the indians
<memleak>
linaro hires a lot of indians?
<memleak>
i havent seen pics of their team to know xD
<libv>
or cheap chinese, or similar
<memleak>
ah
<memleak>
well that sucks
<memleak>
libv, all the political stuff aside, how is their quality of code?
<libv>
and this is what i fear will happen with allwinner
<libv>
they are cheap chinese
<libv>
that's their business model
<memleak>
for example, how would you define the work they do with toolchains?
<libv>
now they will have this false sense of doing real open source work
<libv>
memleak: i only have been exposed to their exynos display driver work
<memleak>
is the code for the exynos display driver developed by linaro cludgey and half assed?
<libv>
it's so halfassed that they hadn't even tested 32bpp colour formats on hdmi
<libv>
nor gave the mali a chance of finding out where the fb lives
<memleak>
as general practice, should one never use code by linaro?
<libv>
both of which were absolute WTFs!
<libv>
no, i didn't say that
<memleak>
if so i should probably stop using their toolchains and kernels
<libv>
i just said that linaro has turned into an organization that doesn't gather the best in the business, but instead just gathers leftover fluff from some of the member organization
<libv>
organizations
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<memleak>
ok
<libv>
and that this then gives the companies and the people involved a very false sense of doing real and good stuff
<libv>
this is of course a generalization
<libv>
but it doesn't bode well for allwinner.
<libv>
if samsugn fucks this stuff up that badly...
<libv>
and they sell the highest end phones out there
<memleak>
do you still work on lima?
<libv>
i should
<libv>
but i haven't touched it since fosdem
<libv>
but then, i haven't touched much else either
<memleak>
was it challenging for you?
<libv>
what part of it are you inquiring about?
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<memleak>
the driver development
<memleak>
in general i suppose
<libv>
i, once again, did something completely new, to everybody
<libv>
completely new ground
<libv>
so of course it is challenging
<memleak>
i always knew you as someone who sticks to very original work :)
<memleak>
(which is awesome btw)
<libv>
yes, very original
<memleak>
how old are you libv if you don't mind me asking?
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<libv>
very controversial
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<libv>
and i always get to carry the buck for it as well
<memleak>
carry the buck?
<libv>
yes, pay the price
<memleak>
im terrible with idioms..
<memleak>
ah..
<libv>
i am 34, but i might as well be 18, as i really seem incapable of learning
<memleak>
who needs to learn once you reach the god tier of software?
<libv>
that's quite wrong
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<memleak>
i'd stop learning if i was at your skill level
<libv>
i do not have any status, i just have whiny and sad stories
<memleak>
you've got status with the people who are familiar with your work by far
<libv>
and i am bloody lucky that my gf sticks with me
<libv>
yes
<libv>
that status is usually called: black-balled.
<memleak>
black-balled..
<memleak>
?
<memleak>
i have a very limited vocabulary, my apologies
<rellla_>
seems that at least timeout value should be increased
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<wens>
mripard: as I understand, the EVB doesn't have ethernet?
<mripard>
it does
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<wens>
hmm, the fex file for the EVB found in our repository has it disabled
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<mripard>
it has a connector :)
<wens>
could you take a look and give me the PHY chip ID? no rush
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<mripard>
it's an RTL8211E-VB according to the schematics
<mripard>
you can't read anything on the chip itself
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<mripard>
except RTL8
<mripard>
so it seems to match
<wens>
oh great, the same as on the cubietruck
<wens>
means you get gigabit :)
<Seppoz>
i want to read directly from cpu if the tx buffer of an uart is empty
<Seppoz>
what is the best way to do that?
<Seppoz>
we use uart 6+7 for rs485 and if i use tcdrain it has very big delay after the last byte was sent, this way the send/receive pin toggles too late and we cant receive the reply
<Seppoz>
any idea?
<mripard>
wens: maz_ was saying last week that it has an issue with the CT though
<mripard>
apparently, the board receives packets only when it sends some
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<wens>
mripard: sound wierd and wrong :(
<mripard>
wens: so if you don't do anything with your board, and just ping it from your desktop, it doesn't work
<mripard>
and the IP seems to be doing some "Energy Efficient Ethernet" that could be related
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<wens>
that sounds odd, as I ssh into my cubietruck, and it always works
<wens>
and AFAIK, the IP doesn't support "Energy Efficient Ethernet"
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<mripard>
designware's does
<mripard>
and how is stored your rootfs?
<mripard>
NFS ?
<wens>
sata drive
<mripard>
ok
<mripard>
well, then maybe you want to talk to him :)
<wens>
Giuseppe has a patch that fixes EEE floating around
<libv>
nove: the cedarx is more of a fixed function pipeline i think
<nove>
by seeing, this got me the idea make diagrams for each codec
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<libv>
ok :)
<nove>
yes, but a easy picture to see how the registers are related to which codec fase, is good to have
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<jemk>
nove: I compiled your latest tracer, are fake registers now possible, and if so, how?
<jemk>
nove: ah, i think i found it...
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<nove>
jemk: that is still not ready, the aim is to allow without having to compile the tracer, but i am undecided in how to do it
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<nove>
jemk: but was you see, if you put in that trace function it works, but remember also check to see if is a load or store
<nove>
jemk: and you need --load-store-wrapper=yes
<jemk>
nove: yes, found that and it seems to work, only vlc doesn't do what i want again
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<Seppoz>
i want to read directly from cpu if the tx buffer of an uart is empty
<Seppoz>
what is the best way to do that?
<Seppoz>
we use uart 6+7 for rs485 and if i use tcdrain it has very big delay after the last byte was sent, this way the send/receive pin toggles too late and we cant receive the reply
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<oliv3r_>
time to read libv's blog post
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<Seppoz>
oliv3r_: which blog post
<mnemoc>
nove: what warning?
<nove>
mnemoc: in the mediawiki.org graphviz extension page, but don't mind, graphviz is not good for this type of diagram, so i am not asking to install it
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<mnemoc>
nove: iirc I installed a blockdiag extension some months ago
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<oliv3r>
Seppoz: libv.livejournal.com or sumat
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<memfault>
mnemoc, you're still here!
<memfault>
heh lkcl is here too? i remember that nut job...
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<rellla>
hi mnemoc, you saw my post on ml? last commit in stage/sunxi-3.4 is broken ;)
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<mnemoc>
rellla: ow
<mnemoc>
rellla: the const thing?
<mnemoc>
memfault: sure
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<rellla>
mnemoc: yup. stars and brackets ;)
<mnemoc>
they are static strings, not pointers...
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