<bfree>
for 02:40 local time I've already got far too many ideas running around my head about how that could be wrong or done differently ;)
<Turl>
let me see
<Turl>
bfree: is the dtb actually named 'dtb' ?
<bfree>
yes dtb is sun4i-a10-cubieboard.dtb
<Turl>
but is it named 'dtb' ?
<bfree>
the long name being too much for fat
<bfree>
(or well I still have the habit of just renaming to short names on fat), so yes, it is named dtb
<Turl>
bfree: try putting 'earlyprintk' into the args, but that requires building with debug_ll on and sun4i selected on the uart choice
<Turl>
given that you're doing a debian kernel it's most likely off
<Turl>
bfree: did you enable the sunxi uart driver? (8250_DW)
<bfree>
no ... so the question is did whoever put the sunxi support into debian do it ... checking now
<bfree>
CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_DW=y
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<bfree>
Turl: a kernel rebuild to get into the earlyprintk can wait until tomorrow at this hour ;) was hoping someone would say: "you need a newer uboot" or "boot.cmd needs X for dtb", with or without "you idiot" appended. I should probably just come back fresh tomorrow, but thanks for looking!
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<Turl>
bfree: one of the uboots had an issue with overwriting random memory
<Turl>
I don't recall at which address though
<Turl>
a newer uboot (like sunxi-current one) can't hurt I guess
<bfree>
the addresses there are what I was using with script.bin (i.e. I'm loading dtb where I was loading script.bin, with locations for kernel and initrd unchanged)
<Turl>
bfree: do you know what load addr was using when building the uImage?
<Turl>
was used*
<bfree>
sure, mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 0x40008000 -e 0x40008000 etc
<Turl>
looks fine
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<hno>
Turl, most versions except sunxi-urrent overwrites 0x50000000 + some when accessing MMC.
<oliv3r>
ERROR: Failure processing PNG image frameworks/base/core/res/res/drawable-mdpi/btn_toggle_on_normal_holo_light.9.png Found at pixel #9 along bottom edge.
<Turl>
oliv3r: o.O is your filesystem corrupting random stuff?
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* ssvb_
would prefer a fully reverse engineered cedarx over this thing :)
* ssvb_
has no interest in pirating videos (netflix is good enough)
<Turl>
ssvb_: how is it 'anti piracy'?
<Turl>
it won't accelerate nonDRM'ed video? :P
<ssvb_>
I don't know, but I guess they are going to be hostile to open source and would do everything to make sure that nobody knows any details about this piece of hardware
<ssvb_>
DRM and free software just does not mix
<Turl>
fair point
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<ssvb_>
and about the netflix part, I have playstation3 which handles gaming and movie playback, that's a gadget dedicated for this purpose
<ssvb_>
I don't approve native closed source games in linux (humble bundle stuff) or any other closed source blobs on my computer
<ssvb_>
having a dedicated computer for general purpose stuff and a dedicated gadget for gaming/movies solves the problem :)
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<slapin_n1>
why do everybody wantd to boot from fat is beyond my understanding
<slapin_n1>
*wants
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<bfree>
slapin_n1: if that fat comment is for me, the wiki led me that way when getting started (and I didn't pickup any hints I could have just used extN then) and as I was using root on sata I've never bothered changing the uSD yet
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<Turl>
slapin_n1: windows maybe?
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<Turl>
lkcl: moving fex -> dt shouldn't be hard, it just requires willingness from AW
<Turl>
lkcl: but chinese companies are more fond of 'it works? shipit!' and 'if it ain't broken don't fix it'
<Turl>
(most of them, that is)
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<ssvb_>
slapin_n1: I guess any file system is a bit more user friendly than hardcoded locations on sd card
* Turl
gets popcorn and keeps reading emails :P
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<ssvb_>
:)
<Turl>
I still don't get why luke insists that fex is superior
<slapin_n1>
ssvb_: as processor doesn't gove a damn about file system, then there is no any reason to think there is any file system.
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<slapin_n1>
no file system is better than pretending there is one
<ssvb_>
the processor has a boot rom and may be aware of the file system
<slapin_n1>
damn this sick 'lets be good to windows users' attitude
<slapin_n1>
I don't think Linux bneeds more Windows users
<slapin_n1>
from lots of Linux devices I have, only my Samsung TV understands my ext3 external USB drive
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<slapin_n1>
they all are very good to Windows users being able to write to NTFS filesystems
<slapin_n1>
this all is damn this attitude
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<slapin_n1>
how can Linux community grow if Linux developers only care about Windows users, and forget about Linux users completely?
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<oliv3r>
Turl: of course it's not corrupting anything randomly. if that where true, i'd be having errors constantly
<oliv3r>
ssvb_: Turl: I think they use the 'turstzone' for the DRM stuff; e.g. a binary blob running at special priviledges doing ... god knows what
<oliv3r>
not needed imo; especially since everything one downloads, is allready de-DRMed. And DRM is only usefull for those who pay and having the worst time to actually playback their crap
<oliv3r>
slapin_n1: like tom tom, runs on linux, can't be used with linux :)
<oliv3r>
Turl: if the FS is corrupting stuff; rm + repo sync should 'fix' it. if the exact same thing breaks; it must be broken ;)
<leowt>
where do i get allwinner's android sdk?
<oliv3r>
leowt: from allwinner; here you mostly find sunxi stuff ;) we do have the initial leechee u-boot + kernel though
<leowt>
i am trying to get android to boot from SD card on a a13
<oliv3r>
Turl: after rm -r frameworks; resyncing it barfs at exactly the same spot
<shineworld>
leowt, screen don't scroll but there is a tip.
<leowt>
shineworld: got it fixed by telling my terminal app to emulate a vt100
<shineworld>
when you call screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 you have alto to go in the console menu items and click twice time to "Terminal -> Reset and Clear..."
<shineworld>
at this point screen works perfectly
<leowt>
can anyone help me out with the kernel boot error?
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<slapin_n1>
leowt: dunno, but looks like bad hardware configuration
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<Turl>
oliv3r: what is that spot again? :P
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<slapin_n1>
can anybosy advice me some tasty A10-based netbook to buy at aliexpress?
<slapin_n1>
I need fanless + normal keyboard to analyse this dump, laptops can't survive a hour in there
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mnemoc:
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<Turl>
slapin_n1: drachensun probably can
<drachensun>
slapin_n1: I have one sitting right here in fact, but I'm not sure if the supplier still sells them
<slapin_n1>
drachensun: what was it bought as?
<slapin_n1>
drachensun: I mean model or link
<bfree>
does anyone have u-boot sunxi-current working with a dtb and initrd? I'm starting to go slightly mad here ;) once I add the initrd it falls over: http://paste.debian.net/8843/
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<slapin_n1>
bfree: where do you put your initramfs? what exact bootm command do you use?
<slapin_n1>
bfree: dtb works, but it seems that initramfs doesn't. is it tested well?
<slapin_n1>
bfree: have you tested if it is not overwritten?
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<slapin_n1>
bfree: try to make initramfs tell you something, or open some prompt to you
<slapin_n1>
bfree: but I think it is corrupted
<Keeper2k7>
hi
<slapin_n1>
bfree: in memory, probably
<bfree>
slapin_n1: those values are basically what I used for 3.4 and the initrd is pretty much the same size now as the 3.4 one (guess what uInitrd.sml is)
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* slapin_n1
is afk for a few hours
<Keeper2k7>
tell me where to take the user manual for A10S?
<drachensun>
slapin_n1: I didn't get it on aliexpress, it was a response to a quote request
<bfree>
a pretty much equivalent 3.4 (e.g. script.bin loaded instead where the dtb is going) works :-/ maybe the dtb means I need to use different addresses though?
<drachensun>
slapin_n1: sunlikc@hksunlike.com.cn model was UMPC-1021
<Turl>
oliv3r: do you run your gentoo with -Ofast -funroll-loops -ffast-math -break-all-the-things by any chance? :)
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<mripard_>
Turl: when I asked, I was told that I had to use the same datasheet as the A13
<oliv3r>
that A10 mini laptop sounds nice; i'd wait for an A20 model with them being so close
<oliv3r>
Turl: lOl ; no just pretty standard stuff
<oliv3r>
Turl: javac -version
<oliv3r>
javac 1.7.0_09
<oliv3r>
CFLAGS="-Os -march=amdfam10 -pipe"
<bfree>
mripard_: I've been stumbling over trying to get a debian 3.10+emac kernel booting with an initrd (and dtb). it falls over as soon as I add the initrd http://paste.debian.net/8843/ ... any clues/ideas? or a good .config for 3.10 to start from to try and narrow it down (and known good commands for u-bbot would also help my sanity)
<drachensun>
oliv3r: I noticed there weren't many vendors for netbooks with A10s, it seems like the mini netbook market is getting smaller with each new generation of chips
<oliv3r>
those are rrandom binaries i put there for random purpouses; but it is a kernel with a built in initramfs
<oliv3r>
i think i added the initramfs on that url too
<oliv3r>
drachensun: shame really; while I agree it's a small market, i'm sure there's a market
<mripard_>
bfree: it looks like your initramfs is not well generated
<Turl>
bfree: I embed the ramdisk inside the kernel, never used the uboot one
<oliv3r>
aexl: those arne't usermanual's though; stick with the A13, it should be cflose enough
<mripard_>
how did you build it ?
<mripard_>
(and yeah, I do the same thing than Turl :))
<aexl>
Turl: right
<drachensun>
oh yeah, I like em too, I'm hoping there will be an A20 offering, its just funny though how much a netbook resonates with programmers and a tablet resonates with everyone else
<bfree>
mripard_: my initial one was built by debian's normal initramfs-tools. I subsequently cut it back just in case it was a size thing, extracting it and: find . | cpio -0 -H newC | gzip > blah ... and e.g. mkimage -A arm -T ramdisk -C none -n uInitrd -d /boot/initrd.img-3.10-rc4-armmp /boot/uInitrd-3.10-rc4-armmp
<mripard_>
bfree: hmmm, to be honest, it's a setup I never tried, so there can definitely be a bug somewhere, but what happens if you set CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE to the "." directory you mention and build the kernel?
<bfree>
I've not tried embedding the initramfs into the kernel ... considering I'm looking at debian packaging that's not really the aim ;) guess I'll be trying it though
<oliv3r>
bree does the code i linked you work?
<oliv3r>
well you got to test and eliminate first
<mripard_>
bfree: oh, nice :)
<mripard_>
but yeah, like oliv3r said, maybe it's just the rootfs itself that is not working at all.
<jelly-home>
bfree: with debian's almostallmodyes?
<jelly-home>
s/yes//
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<bfree>
it would be "cool" if I could get it to boot something useful (e.g. root on nbd is what I'm trying) ;) as of now all I've got it to do is fall over without an initramfs for lack of a rootfs or die with an initramfs :-p
<bfree>
jelly-home: yes, it's a full debian kernel ... + emac from net-next
<jelly-home>
oh you even left all the superfluous flavors for armhf!
* jelly-home
doesn't know which one to pick
<bfree>
armmp is the one which should support sunxi
<bfree>
and yes I built the full kitchen sink to make sure nothing else broke ... 24h (-2.5m) native compile time on the cubie :-o qemu-user-arm will get that down to maybe ~10h at a guess (not done the lot yet)
<oliv3r>
Turl: anything usefull to say about http://sprunge.us/KZBD ? I don't even understand the errors :S I can't imagine those files to be uploaded wrong :(
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<Turl>
oliv3r: sounds like some binary on your computer is overoptimized and exposing a bug if you ask me
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<oliv3r>
but what binary of my system is being used? Isn't the whole thing self-using? e.g. the compiler is included, libs are included
<oliv3r>
only javac is from my system;' and that's actually a pre-compiled binary :p
<oliv3r>
i'll try to find the command that scans those png's
<oliv3r>
cause 'file *.png' says it's a perfectly happy png
<oliv3r>
can't google for it either
<oliv3r>
and then, i'll try to find the bug that causes the 32bit compiler to not find the libraries
<oliv3r>
but this is a beast to do :)
<oliv3r>
i find the android build system a little bit very messy
<oliv3r>
so it could be, that you do the if; and then the timer has progressed
<n01>
1 month?!?!
<oliv3r>
well what if tm->tm_mon is 12 now; e.g. december, it's 31st and 23:59:59
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<wingrime>
oliv3r: you still want make Jpeg PoC?
<oliv3r>
so you enter the function, 1 or 2 cycles pass
<oliv3r>
it's not 00:00 - 01 - 01; HAPPY NEW YEAR!
<n01>
:D
<oliv3r>
so yeah, you do have to take that into account :)
<oliv3r>
wingrime: check out cedarx-traces
<rz2k>
anyone up for deletion of hackberry, marsboard and pcduino from "featured community hardware" from linux-sunxi.org mainpage?
<oliv3r>
anyway, without doing the RE myself; there's a lof of info i need :)
<oliv3r>
rz2k: why?
<rz2k>
zero community action from manufacturer
<oliv3r>
true
<oliv3r>
maybe a new header
<Turl>
rz2k: I wouldn't mind personally
<rz2k>
also I kinda hate that they use linux-sunxi.org frontpage as their advert. place when commiting nothing to linux-sunxi itself
<Turl>
rz2k: is olinuxino listed there?
<rz2k>
yes in the opensource section
<rz2k>
but they are opensource and ok
<wingrime>
rz2k: I agree, just put it to "Simply supported"
<Turl>
wingrime: there's a lot of supported devices not in there
<oliv3r>
manufacturer unsupported
<wingrime>
ok, I think We must make some 'matix' for hardware
<wingrime>
openess
<wingrime>
and support/not supported wifi
<wingrime>
etc
<wingrime>
is pcDuino have open pcb/schenematics ?
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<hno>
Olimex is quite well connected with the community.
<wingrime>
Turl: it realy like free adv
<wingrime>
Turl: expectly for hackers boards
<wingrime>
oliv3r: actualy where trace
<wingrime>
itself
<hno>
oliv3r, an RTC is only needed to keep time while powered off / hibernaed.
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<wingrime>
wow i2c like i2c-mv64xxx.c
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<oliv3r>
hno marsboard not so much
<oliv3r>
hno: and across reboots
<oliv3r>
i think android relies more on it with its suspends?
<oliv3r>
wingrime: the Lenna_mjpeg.trace.log
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<Turl>
oliv3r: for alarms too
<Turl>
oliv3r: why does everyone use that picture of Lenna? :P
<oliv3r>
because it's the 'official' test image :p
<oliv3r>
it was used for the first imaging stuff
<oliv3r>
so i found it ironic to use it aswell :)
<oliv3r>
just before submitting; a nother review :) he did spot things that where allready fixed; not sure what to do with his probe comments, I don't like having 'returns' in the middle of functions; goto might not be the best solution either; but just returning half way is ugly imo
<Turl>
oliv3r: weren't you using devm_ stuff though?
<Turl>
that should autoclean after itself shouldn'tit?