<GRCB0T>
Title: Proof-of-DDoS: A 'Malicious' New Consensus Mechanism (at news.bitcoin.com)
<caraka>
It just can't get much more interesting :P
<vega40k>
ty
<MrControll>
Yes. It could. It could lead to the downfall of (insert hated politician here)
<customminer>
caraka: lol what a troll coin
<caraka>
it's a theoretical coin built by academics as a proof of concept
<caraka>
the article is fascinating. it coulds totally work
<MrControll>
...I propose "trollcoin" (TRC) to be earned using both that method and a lulz recognition algorithm.
<caraka>
lulzcoin
<MrControll>
LZC
<apc>
RRC: rickrollcoin
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
thx for the rain, customminer
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<MrControll>
RRC runs off a complex algorithm that hides the ric roll in a special "hidden" link generated by the wallet. Clicks fill in a crucial variable in the hashing algorithm, so the more links someone manages to pull off the more coin they get. Hold on, I'm writing this down somewhere...
<fediverse>
My dear apc, the !stats result was sent via private message
<customminer>
RTMoney_: No worries, mate. It lasted ~3hrs lol, went quite well. There was approx 11 in attendance, including a visit by Suchflex - they explained their company and answered users questions.
<fediverse>
You can download Gridcoin's blockchain faster:
<fediverse>
1. start the Gridcoin wallet with admin rights (admin rights are required only under Windows): Go to menu: "Rebuild Block Chain" > "Download Blocks", or
<apc>
what are you using to see the speed? crimson?
<Zach_S>
is it possible to restore this one?
<apc>
the radeon settings panel?
<Zach_S>
if I had it open in notepad++
<Bouowmx>
apc: Sapphire Trixx
<Bouowmx>
I can't find Overdrive in Radeon settings
<apc>
sapphire trixx lies.
<apc>
I only use it to control the fan and undervolt
<apc>
overdrive is in gaming
<Bouowmx>
ffs, why is it hidden in ther??
<apc>
fuckifigno
<customminer>
lol
<customminer>
there's other fan control software out there
<apc>
does it control on a gradient?
<Bouowmx>
apc: problem suddenly went away??
<apc>
leet :D
<Bouowmx>
Got Overdrive, Trixx, and GPU-Z open: overclock maintained
<Zach_S>
also, how can I make hexchat automatically log me in on freenode and autoconnect to here
<apc>
GPU-Z is also sometimes sketchy. I rely on crimson (radeon settings) to tell me what the gpu is *actually* at, and GPU-Z for stuff like voltage readings
<apc>
sometimes I find GPU-Z reporting target, not actual
<stoatie>
just restarted my cclient and having issues connecting to the network. Anyone having connection issues
<smushygrc>
mine is working ok all day today stoatie
<Mercosity>
!stats
<Mercosity>
!stats
<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast Mercosity, sent the result via private message
<fediverse>
Mercosity, the !stats result was sent via private message
<smushygrc>
!stats
<fediverse>
My dear smushygrc, sent the result via PM
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<smushygrc>
i have a question
<RoyalPhay>
I can't hold it any longer.
<RoyalPhay>
sup
<RoyalPhay>
how can we help?
<smushygrc>
how come when i do ./src/gridcoinresearchd getbalance
<smushygrc>
109.98000000
<smushygrc>
but my debug.log says
<smushygrc>
*No coins to stake.*No coins to stake.*
<RoyalPhay>
wait
<RoyalPhay>
so you have 109 in your wallet at this moment?
<smushygrc>
yup
<RoyalPhay>
or "pending" or owed
<RoyalPhay>
ok
<smushygrc>
hmm i assume they are 'real coins'
<RoyalPhay>
yes
<RoyalPhay>
staking is sorta like coins "owed"
<smushygrc>
today is my first day at it though so maybe i'm missing something obvious
<RoyalPhay>
I think..
<smushygrc>
yeah i would assume i would "loan them to the network"
<RoyalPhay>
Think of staking as like the process before you deposit a check. Your boss gives you your check but you then have to take it to the bank
<RoyalPhay>
that process is essentially staking
<smushygrc>
well i just wonder why it's saying "No coins to stake"
<smushygrc>
does it mean I don't have enough RAC yet to stake?
<RoyalPhay>
so essentially you haven't gotten your next pay check
<smushygrc>
it sounds like it's saying I don't have enough coins but it seems like I do from the getbalance command output around 110.
<RoyalPhay>
once you hit a "threshold" sorta like you working 60 hours over two weeks, you get paid
<smushygrc>
the 100 RAC right?
<apc>
you can only stake with mature coins. coins mature at 16 hrs
<RoyalPhay>
uhh
<smushygrc>
oh that must be it
<RoyalPhay>
:V sry if I wasn't too helpful :v
<smushygrc>
i appreciate the answer Royal it is also helpful
<smushygrc>
but apc i think you hit the nail on the head thanks
<RoyalPhay>
anything else on your mind while I'm right here :o
* apc
does a dance around royalphay's tent
<RoyalPhay>
/me dance
<apc>
don't worry. it's a rain dance.
<smushygrc>
well i noticed the only client that does not crash for me is 3.5.6.8
<smushygrc>
i cannot use any of the recent 3.5.7 versions they reliably segfault on me
<smushygrc>
i'm running under ubuntu / debian
<RoyalPhay>
caraka
<RoyalPhay>
caraka
<smushygrc>
no big deal tho
<apc>
caraka
<apc>
caraka
<smushygrc>
i got 3.5.6.8 going in a docker image it's cool
<RoyalPhay>
he can help: caraka
<RoyalPhay>
caraka is like mini-jesus
<smushygrc>
lol he tipped me 10 GRC so i tend to agree when i had no clue whatsoever this morning
<apc>
except caraka exists
<RoyalPhay>
ooo. that sounds cool
<apc>
speaking of which, time for the matrix reloaded
<smushygrc>
:-) so fun
<RoyalPhay>
triggered
* RoyalPhay
reloads
<RoyalPhay>
Waiting for Peppernrino to download Monster Hunter Generations
<Mercosity>
Man it's quiet here in the shade of a Kaffirboom. Watching a Dickdick across the veldt, chewing the cud. The Dickdick's chewing the cud not me.
<Mercosity>
I often wondered what life would be like there under the Kaffirboom. Imagine.
<Mercosity>
One of those really frostie just out the freezer beers, a frosty - yah! Sitting on the Landrover's bonnet looking towards those pale blue distant mountains.
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<RoyalPhay>
frostie
<RoyalPhay>
frosties suck balls at wendys
<Mercosity>
Cheers!
<apc>
at least since they got rid of cones
<RoyalPhay>
Mercosity: post that on Steemit
<apc>
nobody wants ice cream in a cup
<apc>
that's stupid
<Mercosity>
I will but with a little bit more added.
<jamezz>
i find 42 as the answer over used and over rated , unfortunately people do not take in to account that people of old time would not use 42 to represent 42 so this the answer is not spelled 42.
<jamezz>
like 2012 and the Myans
<jamezz>
Mayans*
<apc>
it's a hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference. those skull benders be damned
<Peppernrino>
that was a good movie
* apc
digs around
<Mercosity>
I've still got my towel - Went to the premier and got it in my goody bag.
<apc>
somewhere around here I have a large trout with peppernrino's name on it
<Mercosity>
whew!
<jamezz>
wow , i guess you did not notice being fictitious and sarcasm ?
<apc>
do you have any idea how much alcohol I've consumed today?
* jamezz
velcro's his choes
<apc>
it's the bloody weekend
<Mercosity>
!0 Galoons?
<apc>
see, I'm a bloody american, midwesterner at that, and I just said bloody
<jamezz>
time go wallmart , the ladies getting ready for the clubs and bars... might find one that started early
<apc>
how does that make sense?
<RoyalPhay>
10 dabloons
<RoyalPhay>
dabloon coins
<RoyalPhay>
crypto dabloon
<Mercosity>
Lady or Walmart?
<RoyalPhay>
yar. shit in my ass
<RoyalPhay>
jamezz
<RoyalPhay>
do you sleep in walmart?
<jamezz>
shit there are 4 walmarts in the 98002 area
<jamezz>
within 10 min away
<jamezz>
no joke
<RoyalPhay>
I bet you sleep in the tents
<RoyalPhay>
inside of walmart
<jamezz>
kent , auburn , federal way , and federal way
<GRCB0T>
Title: BEST TOILET PAPER FORT EVER!! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
<jamezz>
so um
<Mercosity>
Me no Walmarts with in 2500 miles.
<RoyalPhay>
do you?
<RoyalPhay>
do you sleep in tents at walmart?
<RoyalPhay>
I bet you do
<jamezz>
yes , i sleep in the tents at walmart phay that is why your irc chats are so conducive to the erection i have in my hand... sorry i type slow when i fap
<RoyalPhay>
it's a rite of passage
<RoyalPhay>
you fap in tents at walmart?
<jamezz>
shaw
<RoyalPhay>
damn. that escalated quickly
<jamezz>
doesnt everybody?
<RoyalPhay>
No. only at work
<RoyalPhay>
I have a pizza job after all.
<jamezz>
in the bathroom stall or at the desk?
<jamezz>
oh
<RoyalPhay>
gotta add the special sauce
<jamezz>
not a cubical?
<jamezz>
wow , i had you pegged wrong
<jamezz>
heh , pegged
<Mercosity>
peg leg.
<RoyalPhay>
lag
<Mercosity>
peg lag?
<jamezz>
i have a friend named peggy , she has 1 leg.. srs introduced herself as peg-leg
<jamezz>
but she dont have a wooden leg so its a farce
<RoyalPhay>
did she keep her other leg
<Mercosity>
in a drawer
<jamezz>
just not a pirate when its prosthetic and you can ride bikes and run with it
<RoyalPhay>
that'd be creepy
<Mercosity>
freezer?
<RoyalPhay>
cut your leg off and have the skeleton of your leg
<RoyalPhay>
like...
<RoyalPhay>
no
<RoyalPhay>
so bones only
<RoyalPhay>
left
<RoyalPhay>
then you'd see it and be like.. damn, i'm partly dead
<Mercosity>
knee bonee connected to the thigh bonee
<RoyalPhay>
then you'd start seeing shit and become delusional like me
<jamezz>
well , ya i think arms and legs are like teeth arent they?
<jamezz>
like shit , you own it
<apc>
phay is royalphay's alternate personality
<jamezz>
i assume ill get to take my kidney home.
<RoyalPhay>
that's legit
<RoyalPhay>
yeah, but you don't have a kidney bone
<apc>
right.
<RoyalPhay>
you may have a boner from my special sauce, but not a kidney
<apc>
a likely story.
<RoyalPhay>
^ see
<jamezz>
i have a penis boner and morning wood
<Mercosity>
skelectronically yours
<RoyalPhay>
:o
<RoyalPhay>
o.o
<RoyalPhay>
big words
<jamezz>
i wake with a piss boner 4-5 time a night
<RoyalPhay>
dangerous
<jamezz>
not prostate cancer the dr checked
<RoyalPhay>
I can't pee standing
<Mercosity>
Wring it out
<jamezz>
no just bladder of a prego female
<apc>
prostatitis
<RoyalPhay>
mantis
<RoyalPhay>
prostamantis
<apc>
can be caused by several diseases
<Mercosity>
protheticitis
<apc>
usually bacterial infection, sometimes fungal
<RoyalPhay>
fungus in my ass
<Mercosity>
Mushrooms?
<RoyalPhay>
poopin out damn spores
<jamezz>
RoyalPhay , to hard to spread the vaginal folds and point your pee hole in the right direction? they do make a prosthetic for that too
<jamezz>
?
<jamezz>
er not ? statements use .
<RoyalPhay>
:o
<Mercosity>
sporitis
<RoyalPhay>
spout
<RoyalPhay>
I'm a little tea cup
<RoyalPhay>
short and stout
<Mercosity>
sprouting
<apc>
meatus
<apc>
the pee hole is a meatus
<RoyalPhay>
here is my handle here is my spout
<Mercosity>
I've got gout
<RoyalPhay>
damn cums my rain, to wash my peepee out
<apc>
so the next time you ask a girl to stick a pen in your pee hole
<GRCB0T>
Error: You're missing some capability you need. This could be because you actually possess the anti-capability for the capability that's required of you, or because the channel provides that anti-capability by default, or because the global capabilities include that anti-capability. Or, it could be because the channel or supybot.capabilities.default is set to False, meaning that no commands are allowed unless explicitly in your capab
<RoyalPhay>
!search Phay
<GRCB0T>
There were no matching configuration variables.
<apc>
!admin apc
<jamezz>
omg , well this cloud vps in both win 2008 and ubuntu SUCK... keep getting stuck @ 50% crunching WU's
<apc>
!whoami
<RoyalPhay>
!search variables
<GRCB0T>
apc
<GRCB0T>
There were no matching configuration variables.
<RoyalPhay>
!whoareu
<jamezz>
I am Jamezz
<jamezz>
nice to meet you
<apc>
as grcb0t's true lord and master, I hereby grant you permission to make any and all attempts at crashing grcb0t
<apc>
some idiots got shot by some cops, and other idiots decided to set an auto parts store on fire. other idiots decided to be idiots, and now all the idiocy is on fire.
<vega40k>
WhitesoxCrypto: plz check you addnodes in the config . delete all and only the first , i make this now an my wallet too . i check it with you :-)
<vega40k>
addnode=node.gridcoin.us
<vega40k>
only one
<WhitesoxCrypto>
I was actually doing that vega40k, thnxs.. lemme try it out and I'll get back in a moment... Ty
<vega40k>
next step is check you firewall or something like this
<vega40k>
i start my wallet with only one add node right now
<WhitesoxCrypto>
ok, wallet just started and only with that node, no connections..
<smushygrc>
thanks for advice all good night
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<WhitesoxCrypto>
smushygrc: nn
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<vega40k>
!wallet
<fediverse>
get the Gridcoin wallet software (3.5.7.3b (released on 2016 August 12)) from here:
<WhitesoxCrypto>
vega40k: gonna stop the wallet a gain, and shutdown the firewall, just in case..
<vega40k>
my wallet with only one addnode need more time but now works
<Combined2857>
hi
<vega40k>
and what says you debug.log ?
<vega40k>
i close firewall for grc wallet and try start again . need see the my debug.log
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<vega40k>
firewall close for the grc port
<vega40k>
my debug.log reports ->
<vega40k>
14.08.2016 07:03:25 No neural network nodes online.No neural network nodes online.Performing 1st credit check ()Getting first projectFinished getting first project
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<WhitesoxCrypto>
I also get the no neural network nodes online...
<reddy1975>
Good morning
<fediverse>
tzag (time zone appropriate greeting), I hear 5 birds already.
<reddy1975>
!stats
<fediverse>
Dear reddy1975, please check your private message for the !stats result
<vega40k>
one second after i open the grc ports . my wallet connected to first node , after second to more
<startail>
good morning
<Peppernrino>
!mumble
<GRCB0T>
Join the @GridcoinNetwork @mumblevoip @Beyond_Bitcoin server with your IRC username at http://mumble.beyondbitcoinshow.com | Label: Beyond Bitcoin | Port: 64738 | Password: w0rldCh@NG3rsUN!t3
* Peppernrino
slaps fediverse around a bit with a large trout
<Tahvok>
Erkan_Yilmaz: what's up with that comment?
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<Erkan_Yilmaz>
like what big silos always do: collect/sell data about you
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
I mean most complain about Facebook, but there are more silos out there
<vega40k>
Deep inside you really know, TWITTER is not your friend
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
take also youtube, or any product for that matter from google
<Tahvok>
I understand that comment, but one would expect a preview of the page, like GRCB0T provided, not some out of nowhere comment..
<Tahvok>
Erkan_Yilmaz: ^
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
yeah (I just made it react on a word (currently twitter, youtube, google) , I wanted to add more like url shorteners, but well... something came up)
<kopykat>
mornin gridders
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
I can also deactivate the comment again
<startail>
Tahvok: I wrote the tuturoial on steemit. What do you wish to add?
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<Tahvok>
startail: under 'Setting up the client for Solo Mining'
<Tahvok>
There is a quote for boincdatadir under Linux
<Tahvok>
Could you add the following:
<Tahvok>
or boincdatadir=/var/lib/boinc
<HOBO-UFO>
Nice tutorial startail, just saw it posted on the subreddit before coming here
<startail>
Tahvok: That section is more of a guide on how it looks, rather than what it should look like. I could write "boincdatadir=<path to your boinc client data directory>"
<startail>
HOBO-UFO: Thanks. It is alot to wrap in one tutorial, but I try my best.
<Tahvok>
startail: it mostly is either /var/lib/boinc-client or /var/lib/boinc..
<startail>
ok. I'll add it :)
<Tahvok>
Just to not confuse people who do not find the boinc-client dir
<Tahvok>
And yeah, really nice tuturial!
<Tahvok>
!tip startail 50
<GRCtip>
Tahvok tipped startail 50 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<startail>
updated :)
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<Tahvok>
Thanks!
<startail>
If there is anything any of you find that is not correct, please do tell. I've read up on many of the functions of gridcoin and partisipated in threads on the forum during the past months, but I could still get something wrong.
<startail>
Thanks for the tip Tahvok :)
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<Tahvok>
Is there a reddit post?
<startail>
Yes, I mentioned the first tutorial I made in one post on reddit a few days ago
<HOBO-UFO>
Am I correct in thinking that I need a small amount of gridcoin to start mining? and if so it might be worth mentioning in the tutorial for absolute beginners like myself
<startail>
It's mentioned in the section about the beacon. But maybe I should add it earlier.
<Tahvok>
!tip HOBO-UFO 1
<GRCtip>
Tahvok tipped HOBO-UFO 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<startail>
It's raised more in the last section about research reward and staking. That you need a balance to stake and give you your reward.
<startail>
I intend to make another guide that looks on the difference between solo and pool mining and what the benefits and requirements are. But that's for another day
<HOBO-UFO>
Thanks for my first gridcoin Tarvok!
<startail>
!tip HOBO-UFO 5
<GRCtip>
startail tipped HOBO-UFO 5 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<startail>
For pointing out the requirements :) I've added it to the top of the tutorial now.
<HOBO-UFO>
Thanks startail, I'll keep checking back on your tutorial, it's incredibly concise
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<startail>
thanks
<WhitesoxCrypto>
!block
<GRCB0T>
635123
<fediverse>
total Gridcoin blocks = 634473
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<Tahvok>
Erkan_Yilmaz: any idea why fediverse could be so behind?
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<Erkan_Yilmaz>
yeah, customminer is trying to fix the problem
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<customminer>
https://steemit.com/ Friday's beyondbitcoin episode (featuring gridcoin) is on the front page of steemit! :D
<Openflames>
Goal: at 9:15am every day, rename a file from xsound_volume to sound_volume (volume control for video player), and then at 5:15pm, change it back
<Emptybeerbottle>
Thanks Tahvok \o/
<Tahvok>
Openflames: what does it have to do with mount?
<Openflames>
The other part which may or may not help, uploading media to the device through an nfs share. Rightnow, it mounts on the webpage, but if they close out, it'll remain mounted indefinitely, and when they return it will attempt to mount it again.
<Openflames>
Not entirely sure if this is problematic, actually...
<Combined2857>
ty Tahvok
<apc>
that's just a cron job
<Tahvok>
Openflames: wait.. A webpage mounts an nfs share? <--- that's a problem right there...
<Openflames>
It is?
<Tahvok>
Why do you need to trigger a mount upon loading a webpage?
<Tahvok>
Why not have it loaded from the beginning of the system boot?
<Tahvok>
This will also solve your remount problem
<Openflames>
It's been having issues and hanging indefinitely, unable to connect, and this seems to be working.
<Openflames>
When the device (razpi) reboots, the webserver cant unmount it if it's mounted, and hangs trying to mount
<Tahvok>
Openflames: probably because you didn't have your network up, before it tried to mount it
<Tahvok>
I have provided you a fix here for this..
<Openflames>
It's got other drives mounted and working
<Openflames>
Website still works when trying.
<Openflames>
Thanks, I'm going to redesign how this works
<fkinglag>
!rainactive 4 20
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! fkinglag rained 0.25 GRC on active users startail, apc, HighTower24, Tahvok, SvartH, Mercosity, stevescoins, psychu, Erkan_Yilmaz, Emptybeerbottle, bob21, Combined2857, customminer, Openflames, fediverse, GRCB0T! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<fediverse>
fkinglag I'm going to write about you and your deeds in my PhD thesis
<fkinglag>
fediverse, good.
<Combined2857>
ty fkinglag
<Openflames>
Thanks!
<Emptybeerbottle>
Thanks fkinglag \o/
<Mercosity>
Tanks!!!!
<Combined2857>
is someone currently a phd student ?
<fediverse>
hi, may all your wallets burst with energy and churn through the blocks, like a well oiled Turkish Wrestler. Do you know what's happening with BOINC project 'Bitcoin Utopia' ?
<fkinglag>
polo deposits still broken I think
<Openflames>
almost to rank 100 in the pool
<fkinglag>
woo
<Openflames>
Waiting for payment from the pool... someday
<mrtrousers>
Im not gettint any rosetta cpu tasks
<Openflames>
乁(òᴥó)ㄏ
<customminer>
Erkan_Yilmaz: That's the grcnodes back updating
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<customminer>
Peppernrino: wakey wakey :D
<customminer>
!rainactive 25
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! customminer rained 1.47058824 GRC on active users stevescoins, Emptybeerbottle, bob21, startail, GRCB0T, coinictus, Combined2857, mrtrousers, Tahvok, Erkan_Yilmaz, apc, SvartH, Openflames, fediverse, fkinglag, Mercosity, psychu! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<fediverse>
customminer you're our one and only Robin Hood
<Combined2857>
ty customminer !
<mrtrousers>
:)
<Emptybeerbottle>
Thanks customminer \o/
<Mercosity>
Tanks!!
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
thank you Robin customminer, for the rain. And Tahvok and fkinglag :-)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
customminer: updating is good, thx also
<Openflames>
Ty customminer, may your frames be high and temps low
<apc>
:D
<customminer>
:D
<customminer>
!mumble
<GRCB0T>
Join the @GridcoinNetwork @mumblevoip @Beyond_Bitcoin server with your IRC username at http://mumble.beyondbitcoinshow.com | Label: Beyond Bitcoin | Port: 64738 | Password: w0rldCh@NG3rsUN!t3
<Openflames>
Seti uses my two graphics cards, and cosmology uses all my cpus
<customminer>
mrtrousers: Yes, your seti credit will count, but it will deteriorate over time
<Openflames>
It's not a bad deal
<mrtrousers>
Then i dont know why i get no task, ill have to switch as my computers are idle..
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<mrtrousers>
customminer, what you mean it will deteriorate?
<Openflames>
Weekly average credit, your RAC deteriorates at a rate of 1/2 every week.
<customminer>
mrtrousers: If you stop crunching, your RAC will decrease because it's a moving average to which you are no longer contributing credit towards.
<Openflames>
So you can earn 1k, deteriorates to 500 at the end of the week, earn another 1k, for a total of 1.5k, which then is cut by half to 750, etc
<Openflames>
Eventually, your computer reaches a cap, where it generates that 1/2 in a weeks time, and thats your computer's efficiency
<mrtrousers>
Is the whitlist hardware updated?
<mrtrousers>
Can you do milkyway with cpu?
<mrtrousers>
Well it seems you can do milkyway with cpu
<customminer>
yes but not competitively
<mrtrousers>
YOu mean i wont get credit?
<Openflames>
You wont earn credit nearly as fast
<Openflames>
you'll still earn it, but it's like trying to swim with one hand
<Openflames>
Depends if you primarily want to support the project, or earn lots of credit
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<mrtrousers>
I want both.
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<mrtrousers>
Milkyway is just usin one of my cpus i have 8
<customminer>
mrtrousers: so get more BOINC hardware :P
<mrtrousers>
customminer the problem is the hardware paying for itself.
<moisesm123>
mrtrousers, Milkyway have a multithreaded app, so you could see only 1 task but it should be using the 8 cores
<mrtrousers>
Gridcoin might make that posible, who knows..
<apc>
overclocking and undervolting a gpu is tricky business
<mrtrousers>
moisem123 ok.. So its using all my cpus then..
<moisesm123>
do you see something like 8 CPUs right next to the task?
<moisesm123>
in the status: Running (8 CPUs
<moisesm123>
)
<fkinglag>
I got mine using lots of CPU
<fkinglag>
8-cores 16cpu usage from one milkyway task
<moisesm123>
mrtrousers, are you running the MilkyWay@Home N-Body Simulation app?
<mrtrousers>
mmm, no, what is it? Im running boinc
<moisesm123>
look in the application column
<moisesm123>
in BOINC -> Tasks
<moisesm123>
you should see the tasks you are running there
<moisesm123>
if you are running MilkyWay@Home N-Body Simulation then in Status you should see it says Running (8 CPUs)
<moisesm123>
did you found it
<moisesm123>
?
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<Openflames>
I really need a setup where I'm not paying for electricity :^)
<customminer>
mrtrousers: With the current market cap, it may cover electricity costs. If Gridcoin rises substantially in value then it'll potentially cover hardware costs & be profitable for more users.
<customminer>
Openflames: that is the dream! :D
<Openflames>
I think I can do it with a really long extension cord... ;D
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<customminer>
I submitted an email to the boinc_dev mailing list regarding a 4th gen BOINC credit system
<moisesm123>
I submitted a post in the BOINC Google Group but I haven´t got a reply
<Openflames>
If gridcoin becomes valuable, those who have lots of coins stored up will get a hefty sum for it
<GRCB0T>
Title: Google Groups (at groups.google.com)
<Openflames>
Me and my 69 coins will be lucky if I can repay the $25 in electricity it consumed for a week
<moisesm123>
My issue is either with the Amazon Fire or a bug in BOINC itself
<moisesm123>
tasks stops running
<moisesm123>
maybe because it is weekend
<apc>
do they get computation errors?
<moisesm123>
BTW, Kangaroo arrived in the RMA location, so I hope to get an answer to my ticket this week
<moisesm123>
apc no, it just stops running until I turn off and on the wifi
<moisesm123>
it resumes then
<moisesm123>
so it could be a Fire issue actually
<moisesm123>
but it could also be a BOINC issue
<moisesm123>
I really don´t know
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<fkinglag>
polo grc deposit still broken T_T
<Yoduza>
Fuchsia based on Magenta :o
<Openflames>
polo?
<mrtrousers>
The milkyway certificate doesent look as pro as the Seti one.
<Openflames>
I mean, seti is a global organization which even the UN will point to in the case of extraterrestrial contact
<apc>
looking for radio signals is kinda pointless tho imho. past 100 lightyears any leakage from a planet will be indistinguishable from noise
<customminer>
Openflames: you never know.. i remember stopping bitcoin mining because I'd only made the equivelant of $0.05 for a weekend.. hindsight.. lol
<Openflames>
Helps search for supernova and other types of galactic activity
<Openflames>
Awh customminer, that's rough
<Openflames>
I'll keep mining on my work computer, but for now I wont drain my wallet to fund electricity (roommate pays half and don't want to drag him down too)
<mrtrousers>
Rosetta doesent even have a certificate..
<apc>
openflames I even moved two GPUs to work computers :D
<Openflames>
This little box is thinner than either of my gpus
<apc>
tho a cpl of them stopped reporting yesterday for some reason. can't even ping the router, but my main box is still reporting. I'll see what's wrong tomorrow
<moisesm123>
ok. in BOINC does the tasks says Ready to Report???
<PenumbraDuFromag>
mv /path/xfile /path/file
<mrtrousers>
The boxes that are crunching done tasks are not showing in boinc manager yet
<moisesm123>
what is your setup?
<fkinglag>
\o/
<moisesm123>
are you using BOINC manager or another tool?
<mrtrousers>
Boinc manager in one computer, rest of boxes boinctui
<mrtrousers>
but it all gets synced with my account, at least in seti
<moisesm123>
if you got tasks, they should be listed in the Milkyway@Home website
<mrtrousers>
Guess its a bad idea cpu milkyway
<moisesm123>
it is not a bad idea but since it has GPU tasks your mag probably will not be high
<moisesm123>
you should run only CPU-only projects for CPU as GPU will rank a lot of credits and if you run CPU versions of GPU projects you mag will be low
<Tahvok>
Yay, just so that update is out
<mrtrousers>
Id be happy enough if my tasks got counted right. I think ill change.
<mrtrousers>
ROseta idles my computers, and milky doesnt count my tasks. :(
<Tahvok>
Kinda hated that 'b' letter in version...
<Openflames>
When did you start working on milky?
<Tahvok>
Noticed same thing on milky myself, that's why I don't crunch it any more..
<mrtrousers>
Not long ago, maybe an hour
<mrtrousers>
Give it more time, a bit of patience?
<Openflames>
I think patience is needed at this point
<mrtrousers>
Its just that seti worked so smooth.. Ill wait a bit and see how it goes.
<Openflames>
Didnt have anything counting on WorldCommunityGrid until the next day, but it tracks it on delay
<Openflames>
SETI set the bar really high
<Openflames>
Heh... they really SETI the bar high
<mrtrousers>
haha
<radurock>
what's your gusy go to cpu only project?
<radurock>
so your point is that @asteroids should be gpu mined only ?
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<Openflames>
My go to is cosmology@home, since it speeds through tasks by using multiple cpus. Usually. But I'mstill new.
<radurock>
hmm interesting
<radurock>
do you make any profit at all?
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<Openflames>
I started a week ago and haven't pushed my desktop hard 24/7 since it kept freezing and was eating my electricity bill
<radurock>
from my calculations you need about 830 magnitude to make 1 dollar / day
<radurock>
which requires about @70,000 RAC on cosmology
<Openflames>
I'm at about 20
<radurock>
it feels impossible to even get the electricity bill back
<fkinglag>
:|
<radurock>
20 RAC or 20k ?
<Openflames>
20 mag
<fkinglag>
radurock some people just volunteer BOINC and the reward is just an extra
<fkinglag>
also the price is what correlates to your ROI coming soon
<fkinglag>
profit is a relative term and also subjective at best
<radurock>
yes I know fkinglag
<radurock>
it's just a numbers talk
<radurock>
no need to get salty :)
<fkinglag>
you aren't gonna find profit here :P
<Openflames>
I haven't been paid since 5 days ago
<fkinglag>
for now
<mrtrousers>
It was like that for btc at the start
<coinictus>
woof
<mrtrousers>
When i was thinking about getting a mining rig i thought i wouldnt cover electricty costs but then... alas
<vega40k>
:-)
<radurock>
but btc was first wasn't it
<mrtrousers>
For me it was 2011
<radurock>
what factors would make GRC be picked amongst the hundred coins available nowadays?
<mrtrousers>
I got to find my satoshis, ill trade them for grc
<mrtrousers>
Useful computation paradigm
<mrtrousers>
Products and services providers or marketplace that accept grc
<mrtrousers>
Media coverage
<radurock>
and yes of course you're not getting bugattis out of this but covering the electricity bill with 0 profit should be doable at least
<Openflames>
It has benefits towards science, but bitcoin has already solidified it's stance, so it's far less likely for grc to become as competitive unless there were other incentives for doing so
<radurock>
that's kind of the point isn't it, return something back
<mrtrousers>
BItcoin was declared for some a failed project this year. Its not widely adopted, i dont know anyone in real life that uses btc to pay.
<radurock>
yeah I'm not even thinking in terms of BTC magnitude
<mrtrousers>
It wastes electricity or so they say. Unless the hashing of sha is useful in some way.
<radurock>
but checking the value from march till now it has a trend of going down
<mrtrousers>
Is grc as robust as btc? Is grc as semi anonymous as btc? Is grc more useful than btc?
<radurock>
i mean what i personally think makes grc stand out is that's made to support science community
<radurock>
which should be enough to get it more traction than other coins, not sit towards the bottom
<WhitesoxCrypto>
in BOINC, do you guys have it set to switch between tasks every 60 sec, or not, or longer or what??
<WhitesoxCrypto>
TIA
<WhitesoxCrypto>
I mean, what's better towards keeping a high RAC??
<Peppernrino>
um
<WhitesoxCrypto>
yeah.. umm... lol
<Openflames>
I think the time is in minutes
<Peppernrino>
mercosity and i just started setting them to 10000 seconds
<WhitesoxCrypto>
that's my situation..
<WhitesoxCrypto>
sorry, you're right Mercosity
<WhitesoxCrypto>
60 minutes..
<Peppernrino>
say you have 2 tasks of 4 hours a piece
<Openflames>
High rac = finishing lots of high value tasks
<fediverse>
time zone appropriate greetings (tzag), wishing you a nice Gridcoin experience today. What's going on with BOINC project 'RNA World' btw?
<Peppernrino>
the time switching between those tasks
<Peppernrino>
and the work unit has to be cached as well...
<Peppernrino>
it HAS to be better to just let them finish.
<Peppernrino>
10000 minutes *
<customminer>
ok, who's @readmexx on twitter? lol..
<WhitesoxCrypto>
so, either not switching, or switch like you guys have set, at a longer period...
<WhitesoxCrypto>
hi customminer
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<Peppernrino>
longer period will make it not switch
<Openflames>
I have mine set to switch every 60 minutes, and yet it never does
<WhitesoxCrypto>
wb mrtrousers
<customminer>
hey buddy
<WhitesoxCrypto>
indeed Peppernrino
<WhitesoxCrypto>
and have you already, have seen any change in "improvement or worsening"?
<customminer>
eh?
<Peppernrino>
hard to tell. my lady has to keep her kindle and phone plugged in for full results. :P
<WhitesoxCrypto>
question was for Peppernrino and Mercosity
<Peppernrino>
lol
* Peppernrino
does a dab
<WhitesoxCrypto>
lol
* Peppernrino
does "the dab"
<WhitesoxCrypto>
k, will think about it..
<Peppernrino>
i hurt my nose hahaha
<customminer>
For time spent editing the 2nd hangout:
<customminer>
!tip Peppernrino 1000
<customminer>
ty
<GRCtip>
customminer tipped Peppernrino 1000 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Peppernrino>
:o
<WhitesoxCrypto>
WOW!!
<WhitesoxCrypto>
lol
<Mercosity>
I've found that since I made the minute adjustment I seem to be getting thru more wus. It's still early days though and I do run all my kit 24/7 @100%.
<WhitesoxCrypto>
same here, 100% 24/7
<WhitesoxCrypto>
will give it a shot..
<Peppernrino>
yeah. i should have it done in a couple of hours. omitted xarious and gunde. -2.4GB already. lol
<customminer>
cool
<Peppernrino>
there's a lot of chaff
<Peppernrino>
i spent all last night hacking out a flash memory leak... like 4 1/2 hours
<Mercosity>
Then give it a try and monitor it like me - set mine to 10000 minutes.
<Peppernrino>
i need to contact adobe
<Peppernrino>
how much you wanna bet i can get it under a GB?>
<fediverse>
HViD it's time to do cheerleading things with pom poms for you
<coinictus>
ty HViD
<Yoduza>
ty
<Combined2857>
damn its raining a lot today :P
<Combined2857>
thanks
<Emptybeerbottle>
Thanks HViD \o/
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
well, at least fediverse is cheerleading :-) thx HViD
<stevescoins>
ty HVD !
<Mercosity>
Tanks!! Filling up!
<HViD>
With 1.5% return on staking I'm earning more from staking that actual mining - So would it be a good idea to search for low-pop projects to increase my magnitude?
<moisesm123>
ty
<mrtrousers>
:)
<apc>
:D
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
somehow I doubt that you get with pos more, when you don't get enough dpor blocks
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
also, 1.5% is quite a low ROI
<apc>
hvid I think that's one purpose for gridcoin: to incentivize crunching the less popular projects
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
there are better POS coins out there
<Mercosity>
Erkan_Yilmaz: That works very well, Excellent.
<apc>
less competition means more mag
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<caraka>
morning peeps
<customminer>
morning caraka
<fediverse>
morning, I hear 13 birds already. Do you know what's happening with BOINC project 'Leiden Classical' ?
<apc>
mornin'
<HViD>
1.5% seems a lot if it is possible to stake enough
<caraka>
3.5.7.4 daily PPA ETA ~30min
<WhitesoxCrypto>
HViD: ty m8!! ;-)
<HViD>
also I'd just need a "low power" wallet online instead of having an actual cruncher running
<apc>
I think that means being an investor
<HViD>
well, as I understand it I still need do some kind of crunching to get my magnitude up
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
no, when you are relying only on PoS, you can ignore the boinc side
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
but pos relies heavily on high GRc balance, see also !timetostake
<HViD>
!timetostake
<fediverse>
This command '!timetostake <coins>' returns - as private message to you (to be done soon) - the EstimatedDaysUntilStake, which is: (1/(YourGridcoinAmount/NetworkCoinSupply))/960
<fediverse>
a. this is !PoS only, !PoR is likely lower time to stake
<fediverse>
b. <coins> must be without decimal, only integer
<fediverse>
c. example when you have 1000.3 GRC, you'd use this: !timetostake 1000
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
and if you have lots of GRC, most likely you'd have the money to get also a nice device for boinc
* jamezz
yawns n farts
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
so, if you have not much GRC, you might not even get those 1.5%
<HViD>
but what is "lots of GRC"?
<bubu1uk>
!timetostake 2200
<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast bubu1uk, the result was sent via PM
<apc>
mining makes me want to buy a house again so I can put up solar panels
<Openflames>
You lose when starting
<HViD>
!timetostake 2200
<fediverse>
My dear HViD, the result was sent via PM
<jamezz>
yeah for sleeping like crap
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
so, "With 2200 GRC you need 179.6 days until you stake/make a !PoS block. (To theoretically guarantee daily staking, you need 395166.2 GRC)."
<jamezz>
HViD like 999,999,999,999 us a lot of grc
<jamezz>
100,000,000 is so so
<jamezz>
i has 658
<jamezz>
is* not us
<caraka>
I have an investor wallet set up for testing with exactly 10k grc in it. It has staked interest 3 times in 2 weeks.
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<HViD>
so around 4.2 BTC for daily staking
<bubu1uk>
caraka: how much in USD did you invest?
<caraka>
Which means that on average only 65 million of the total coins is staking at any one time
<caraka>
bubu1uk: I've had these coins for 2 years, so there really is no price comparison. They were about 0.003 cents USD at the time :o
<caraka>
What I am saying HViD is that the fediverse calculator is very conservative (the theoretical amount) and that you will stake interest much more often
<caraka>
!timetostake 10000
<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast caraka, the result was sent via private message
<caraka>
<fediverse> With 10000 GRC you need 39.5 days until you stake/make a !PoS block. (To theoretically guarantee daily staking, you need 395166.2 GRC).
<caraka>
When in fact my 10k has staked 3 times in 2 weeks
<caraka>
or to put it into fediverse terms, 3 times in 14 days
<apc>
people abusing the rain? somewhere newbies are encouraged to come to chat to get starter coins via rain. you mean like just idling to collect rain and never crunch or something?
<Peppernrino>
yes
<Peppernrino>
ish
<HViD>
any way to see the difference in whats mined and whats returned from staking?
<caraka>
It's encouraging newbies to hang out in here
<HViD>
I know I've staked a few times already but I cant see any transactions besides "Mined - PoR" in my log
<Peppernrino>
i can set up rain in the help channel easily.
<caraka>
often the PoR (research) reward and the PoS (interest reward) come in the same block and are labeled mining
<HViD>
ok, thanks. So to be sure it would be better to make an investor wallet for PoS purposes
<caraka>
Peppernrino: then they would need to be registered, so they might as well be encouraged into here
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<Peppernrino>
HViD: #gridcoin-help :P
<Peppernrino>
then no rain in help channel
<caraka>
HViD: I think that makes it too complicated. If you are going to crunch, one wallet will suffice
<HViD>
Still havent figured out how that Magnitude plays into PoS'ing
<caraka>
If you want to see the interest in you blocks, you can open the detail screen for the block you mined
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!pos
<fediverse>
Proof-of-stake (PoS): your existing stake in a currency (the amount of GRC that you have) is used to calculate the amount of that currency that you can mine. See also: !timetostake and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-stake
<GRCB0T>
Title: Proof-of-stake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
the magnitude shoul dnot play any role for pos only
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
only your GRC amount
<caraka>
^^ not directly
<mrtrousers>
:)
<caraka>
having a PoR balance owed will increase your stakeweight, but not like your balance does
<caraka>
like love, it's complicated. :-)
* Peppernrino
downloads java development kit and installs android studio
<Openflames>
2/4 laptop ssds installed
<caraka>
\o/
<Openflames>
first one still refusing to pxe boot
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<caraka>
Those pixies can be troublesome! :p
<bubu1uk>
anybody got raspberry for boinc running?
<caraka>
which version of RPi?
<bubu1uk>
B
<bubu1uk>
first one
<caraka>
If it is armhf (newer) then yes. If armel (original) then no
<caraka>
wait - I'm a fool
<caraka>
you said boinc, not the wallet
<caraka>
yes, some people have managed to get boinc goin on armel devices
<bubu1uk>
platform arm-unknown-linux-gnueabihf not found
<bubu1uk>
that's on raspbian
* Peppernrino
will try to write a new android app
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<Tahvok>
Morning caraka!
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* caraka
blesses Peppernrino's efforts with a greenuparrow
* Peppernrino
puts it with the rest
<caraka>
morning Tahvok!
<Peppernrino>
;D
<bubu1uk>
i guess i'll need to do more internet search on pi topic :)
<Peppernrino>
blessings be fallin out my pockets an shit.
<Peppernrino>
bubu1uk
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<caraka>
yes if you want to boinc with an original pi, then google is your friend. I think some people have einstein running on their old pis
<GRCB0T>
Title: Raspberry Pi 2: Seti@Home (boinc) on Raspbian f... | element14 Community (at www.element14.com)
<Peppernrino>
this one too. more step by step.
<Peppernrino>
the first one is all the available projects
<caraka>
that's a pi2 rino
<Peppernrino>
not sure how well it's kept up
<Peppernrino>
ah
<Peppernrino>
are they siffernt in programming?
<Peppernrino>
differen*
* Peppernrino
goes to cut his nails...
<caraka>
it's alright bubu1uk will have to sort thorugh and find the ones that relate to the older armel rpi1
<Openflames>
3/4 laptops
<bubu1uk>
ok. so as per search and tires.
<caraka>
The software based floating point calculations on the armel RPi1 are not suitable for most boinc science projects.
<bubu1uk>
world community grid and seti don't work with Pi
<bubu1uk>
enigma downloaded and working
<caraka>
but a couple will work. It is written. Somewhere
<caraka>
bingo!
<bubu1uk>
einstein should too as per my findings
<bubu1uk>
might try later
<caraka>
You are right. I said einstein, but it is enigma
<caraka>
\o/ crunching with RPi1 \o/
<Openflames>
Making jam
<Openflames>
with a pi
<caraka>
you should be making a pie with jam
<HViD>
Can a Pi actually get some work done compared to a desktop cpu? I understand the desire to get it working just for the sake of it, but in terms of throughput can they deliver any power? Same question for Android phones :)
<caraka>
not really HViD in the scheme of things, but folks have been known to pile up all their old devices into a bit of credible work
<Openflames>
Sheer power? no. Efficiency? Yeah
<caraka>
it's better than having them sit idle!
<reddy1975>
!stats
<Openflames>
I'd assume results would be slow though, but idk
<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast reddy1975, please check your private message for the !stats result
<moisesm123>
!stats
<HViD>
!stats
<fediverse>
moisesm123, sent the result via private message
<caraka>
!stats
<fediverse>
HViD, the !stats result was sent via PM
<caraka>
wy not join the party?
<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast caraka, sent the result via private message
<Openflames>
Haven't seen katie since I arrived, starting grc.
<caraka>
:( I miss Katiee
<Openflames>
Wondering when the next pool cashout is, so I can swap to solo afterwards
<HViD>
hmm, my cpid still isnt in the !stats
<caraka>
How long has your wallet been synced HViD?
<Openflames>
!help
<HViD>
wallet has been up for 2-3 weeks I guess
<GRCB0T>
help [<plugin>] [<command>]
<fediverse>
I'm a helpful bot for the good Gridcoin people. Type '!help fediverse' to get my command list.
<caraka>
and does the cpid show up in the wallet window?
<HViD>
yes
<Openflames>
If your cpid isnt showing in your wallet you may have a bigger problem
<caraka>
Have you sent your beacon successfully to the neural network?
<HViD>
and I posted it to Erkan to have it added (whereever he adds it)
<HViD>
everything is passed on Diagnostics in the wallet
<Openflames>
The stats here reads the NN on a delay
<caraka>
when you sent your beacon HViD, did it take 0.0011 grc from your wallet
<caraka>
?
<bubu1uk>
!stats
<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast bubu1uk, please check your PM for the !stats result
<Openflames>
HViD the stats here are on a delay, so while you may be in the nn, it may be another day or so for it to show in the stats here
<HViD>
first beacon: 9th of august, 2nd beacon: 10th of august, 3rd beacon (auto-sent?) 12th of august
<caraka>
you only need one beacon. :)
<HViD>
yeah yeah... I got impatient with the second one ^^
<bubu1uk>
lol
<caraka>
your cpid is public info. If you publish it here, someone can look into their NN to make sure it is there. As Openflames said, there can be a delay here
<HViD>
maybe I also sent the third with "execute advertisebeacon force" cause I thought that could make a difference
<Openflames>
I had to wait an extra 3 days after seeing it in nn for it to work
<caraka>
as long as it's in teh NN, then you're OK, even though fediverse hasn;t caught up
<Openflames>
So just be patient and focus on another project for the time being c:
<HViD>
but.. when I type !stats in here, fediverse must have a list linking my username to the cpid? isnt that what Erkan handles?
<caraka>
paste your cpid here and Peppernrino will look into the NN to check if it is there.
<Openflames>
He added it, but the sites fediverse reads from update on delay as well
<caraka>
yes, that is what Erkan handles
<caraka>
^^^^ what Openflames said
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<HViD>
are you scamming me now?! I thought the cpid was a secret between me and NN (and NSA ofc...)
<HViD>
:P
<caraka>
lol. It's very public
<Openflames>
If you type !stats and fediverse says it doesn't have anything for you, your cpid was not added to your username here. If you get a bunch of 0's for results, it means your added but the superblock hasn't been updated from where it gets its information. Even if you're in the nn already
<caraka>
!cpid help
<fediverse>
- use '!cpid CPIDvalue' to see stats about a certain CPID
<fediverse>
- just '!cpid' shows active solo miners (if you also want to see pool participants, use '!active')
<fediverse>
- if you want your CPID not shown, you can use '!stats' (tell your CPID to Erkan_Yilmaz first). read more: '!stats help'
<GRCB0T>
Title: The path from a desktop app to a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app | Building Apps for Windows (at blogs.windows.com)
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<caraka>
that would require me to use windows, and I'm not prepared to do that. :/
<Openflames>
CPID = Cross Project ID, meaning it's what the projects at seti and cosmology, etc use to direct their credits to your account. That is unique to your wallet data
<Peppernrino>
:D
<Openflames>
Not like a mac address, which.. euh
<caraka>
it's only really unique to your boinc email address
<Peppernrino>
come on.....
<Openflames>
ah email right
<HViD>
my cpid is in the NN
<Openflames>
But what's the point of having more than one cpid? just distributing your computing power and profits
<caraka>
excellent HViD, so then sit tight and wait for the dust to settle
<HViD>
so either fediverse isnt updated or Erkan added the wrong cpid
<caraka>
correct Openflames
<HViD>
this damn game is so slow...! so much waiting all the time :D'
<Openflames>
I suppose, keep the email / pw combo secret
<Openflames>
And all is well
<caraka>
gridcoin is a zen plot to teach patience
<Openflames>
Have you played Ogame HViD
<HViD>
no
<Openflames>
It's more waiting than this.
<apc>
can the eye see itself? the tongue taste itself? the project crunch itself?
<apc>
the cake is a lie the cake is a lie the cake is a lie
<jamezz>
:(
<Openflames>
Registered with freenode?
<apc>
doing science!
<jamezz>
it was 37.69908 my bad
<mrtrousers>
Its weird how milky is using 4 cores in one computer and only 1 in the others..
<jamezz>
that openledger site is so heavy and loads so slow
<Openflames>
It's imaginary!
<jamezz>
all the text here is imaginary
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<jamezz>
just random bits left over as backround noise from the BBS days
<apc>
reality is an illusion
<jamezz>
floating on the intertubes webs
<Openflames>
I'm a figment of your imaginations
<jamezz>
like radiation
<Openflames>
Troncoin
<caraka>
Yes Openflames, I think its about freenode registrations
<jamezz>
no Openflames , you are a filament of my imagination keeping the room lit at night when doin the nasty with the ladies playing some isle brothers
<jamezz>
BAM
<caraka>
this chat is a pigment of my imagination
<apc>
flynn lives
<Openflames>
Happy little trees..
<jamezz>
now what hue is that pigment caraka?
<caraka>
when you typed my name it went a ruddy orange hue :)
<Openflames>
Really?
<Openflames>
Haha, ruddy orange...
<Openflames>
So what do the colors mean then?
<jamezz>
i like to keep my IRC segregated , everybody is black and the space around them is full of white..
<caraka>
irc bigot!
<jamezz>
i hope i dont ever run into rossa parks family
<caraka>
don't irc on the bus
<jamezz>
atleast not in the front or middle , but the backs ok
<apc>
our busses have wifi now
<caraka>
daily PPA update is ready for all archs
<Openflames>
I play my ultimate card! Blue eyes white privilege!
<jamezz>
same with ours , and our light rails
<jamezz>
all?
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<caraka>
and all our trains too
<jamezz>
like , i might be able to install it on ppc64 now?
<apc>
we just got our first light rail/street car... it's stupid.
<jamezz>
i was goin say trains but you commented related and that was more important to me
<caraka>
no jamezz. no ppc64 build. :(
<jamezz>
wait thats PPA nm
<jamezz>
i might
<jamezz>
i was thinking ima reinstall that box , might instead of running debian jesse throw ubuntu 14.04 on it
<jamezz>
dl the other night the iso's
<jamezz>
PPA has PPC64
<caraka>
it won't build so ppc64 is not turned on
<jamezz>
ok
<caraka>
neither will arm64 for it is turned off too
<apc>
you can pretty much play the entire tron legacy in your head listening to the sound track
<jamezz>
so what about source?
<caraka>
You could grab the source and try again to compile
<jamezz>
any idea when that might , if ever get fixed? has the source been updated?
<caraka>
but I think there is work to be done to be successful
<jamezz>
ya me too
<jamezz>
and i dont code
<caraka>
did you post your buildlog pastebin into the cryptocointalk forum and ask Rob to look at it?
<jamezz>
it was worth a shot , and Erkan_Yilmaz asked me to cuz i could give bug reports... not yet been a rough few days
<caraka>
I think it's going to take the dev to sort that
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<caraka>
teh ppc64 stuff is springled aroundinthere, but not everywhere
<Mercosity>
caraka: I thank you!!
<caraka>
np :P
<bubu1sk>
hmm. irc on mobile phone. things changed since i started to use it :)
<jamezz>
hell i wanna try the other ports i can use qemu to emulate the rest on my mac
<jamezz>
but thats latter
<caraka>
Yeah I just bought a new desktop so I now have the grunt to tinker with experimental builds
<caraka>
right. time for that Monday morning radio show. bbl
<jamezz>
hello , I am a Rio police officer... Please empty your wallets of GRC and set it on the table... see my badge I am a cop , see this gun pointed at you it shows I am a cop.
<GRCB0T>
Title: ExtremeTech auf Twitter: "Microsoft slapped with class-action lawsuits over Windows 10 upgrade practices https://t.co/4kRUq4jB3Rhttps://t.co/xSOeMOpMIZ" (at twitter.com)
<Mercosity>
customminer: Thank you. I can if I try I suppose.
<Openflames>
Woohoo!
<Peppernrino>
i was affected
<Peppernrino>
where's my money?
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<Erkan_Yilmaz>
I'd post logs and such on github, the forum is just a black hole, it lands there an dno one will find it later on
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
though on github people will find it sooner
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
cc caraka jamezz
<jamezz>
ok
<jamezz>
i had pastebined it
<jamezz>
but im tryikng something , see if i can work around it
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
ok
<jamezz>
i think its because curl3 vs now curl4
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<jamezz>
and curl4 dev and maybe a change
<jamezz>
ill fux more before posting
<jamezz>
:)
* MrControll
begins handing out coffee.
* Erkan_Yilmaz
chewing on the beans
<MrControll>
...isn't there a gum for that?
<Emptybeerbottle>
I upgraded to Windows 10 unwittingly when I left my laptop on while I went to walk the dog
<Emptybeerbottle>
Came back to "ALL YOUR FILES ARE IN THE SAME PLACE YOU LEFT THEM"
<Emptybeerbottle>
Which sounds incredibly shifty
<Openflames>
That really does
<Openflames>
The windows 10 upgrade nagging is assault.
<Mercosity>
Emptybeerbottle: I have a desktop with Win 10 on it and it auto updated. However the update didn't work and it the decided that it would update again when it felt like it. Each time restarting of course and each time failing! Eventually I had to extend the restart date as far as I could into the future to get it to stop for a while!!
<jamezz>
so hay Mercosity , SINCE discovering GRC now when you show a client boinc and you ask them if you can install it as a token of payment do you set it up under your pool and get paid for it and manage their projects?
<Emptybeerbottle>
Yeah mine did that at first Mercosity
<Emptybeerbottle>
Failed 4 times
<jamezz>
also , i hate that damn screen saver... i loved it till i thought for a second how much GPU it uses that could go to my gpu projects lol
<Emptybeerbottle>
Left it a couple of months and kept putting it off as much as possible
<Emptybeerbottle>
Which was like 4 days and 23 hours or something
<Mercosity>
jamezz: I must admit to being tempted. But I'm well known in my area and if I did and was caught my internet tutoring business would be in the toilet. I was tempted.
<jamezz>
lol
<jamezz>
i knew you thought about it atleast , but you could always ask and then do it... like they goin mine
<Mercosity>
Emptybeerbottle: how did you get around it. I just did the quickest fix I could think of to get back to BOINCing.
<jamezz>
tell them you will control their projects for them to make sure it runs efficenetly
<Emptybeerbottle>
I didn't, it just magically worked while I was out walking my dog
<Mercosity>
Emptybeerbottle: Oh! Miraculously fixed itself. Bet mine doesn't. I have the November update.
<Openflames>
Hot pockets are literally magma
* Openflames
gently rubs burned hands
<apc>
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmagma
<apc>
I love my new fan controller
<apc>
it's so cool
<apc>
with lots of blinky flashy units
<Openflames>
I'm going to transfer into my new full tower with a fan controller and see how it all works. Hoping for lots of fun things as well
<Openflames>
Never had a fan controller before
<apc>
I figure it's also helping the mobo out by taking all the fan power off
<Openflames>
Yes indeed!
<Openflames>
I've filled all my fan spots. One of them is in an incredibly annoying spot, so moving the mto the back of the case will be A+
<Openflames>
Too much = slight cleanup. Too little = fire
<jamezz>
i know you do but dont
<Openflames>
I'm just confused
<jamezz>
its not needed , i used to and stopped on this machine... and i do not want to even guess how many machines i have built in 25 years , especially as a build tech for 95-2000
<Openflames>
I'm not sure if that's spray foam or other
<GRCB0T>
Title: How to Install a CPU Cooler | PCWorld (at www.pcworld.com)
<jamezz>
thats it
<jamezz>
that lil dollop
<Openflames>
"...as if you were waxing a car..."
<Openflames>
I'll get some paste and re-apply cooler
<HViD>
Any way I can use both the igp and the gpu to crunch?
<Openflames>
Upgrading from h55 as well, so need some regardless. Trying to prioritize them but need a stable job before I can buy it all
<Openflames>
igp?
<HViD>
integrated graphics processor
<HViD>
the one "inside" most modern cpus
<Openflames>
Ah, yes.
<Openflames>
I recently set that up for my 2 different gpus.
<HViD>
when I install boinc on a laptop without a dedicated gpu it uses the igp for crunching
<HViD>
but not sure how I get it working on a desktop where the gpu is already in use for crunching
<jamezz>
most modern AND the 1998 fail of Cyrix MEDIA GX!
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<jamezz>
i had a laptop with a 200mhz media GX
<jamezz>
lol
<HViD>
can you control which hw is used by each project in boinc?
<Openflames>
HViD In Boinc, go to Tools > Event Log, and look for the data directory (typically C:\Program Data\BOINC) and create an xml file named cc_config.
<HViD>
nevermind. its working
<Mercosity>
Any way to get 2 gpus to work at one time in 2 different slots? Got some spare gpus I could fit but haven't tried it before.
<HViD>
just another example of "have patience" in this game :P
<Openflames>
The hardest part was making the xml file
<Mercosity>
Yes using both for cruching. Low level gpus though.
Emptybeerbottle is now known as Bitfinex
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<Mercosity>
cruching what sort of a word is that?
<Mercosity>
crunching
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<Openflames>
You can fille the gpu slots with as many gpus as you want and get them all crunching on different tasks
<HViD>
Merc: if you have the ports in the mobo and enough power in the psu, it should be plug'n'play (assuming you know how to install the drivers)
<jamezz>
my god im going to have start searching CL for ATI and NVIDIA every day
<Phay>
my master file
<HViD>
hiPhay
<Mercosity>
And bothwpuld work?
<jamezz>
hay , then you can add usb to pci express adapters and add more video cards for 8 total!
<Phay>
hi
<Openflames>
Poor psu and power bill
<Mercosity>
*wpould
<HViD>
or pciex4 -> x16 adapters :P
<Mercosity>
*would
<Openflames>
Mercosity, I had a 970 and 650ti working on different projects together
<jamezz>
today i get to try my quad core amd with both nvidia and ati gpu crunching but not till 11pm
<Mercosity>
Internal?
<jamezz>
HViD so max is not 8 ? thought I read that here 2 days ago from customminer
<jamezz>
8 video cards
<Openflames>
Depends on mobo
<HViD>
cant remember if 7 or 8 is max
<HViD>
there is a limit in windows
<jamezz>
and im wrong this A8 7950 is onboard r7 , pci express ati card and pci express nvidia card all 3 CPU's will crunch!
<HViD>
1 cpu, 1 igp and 2 gpus
<HViD>
should work just fine :P
<jamezz>
i know it will
<Openflames>
Mhmm
<Mercosity>
Can it be done internally or do you have to external
<Openflames>
Get the fire extinguisher
<HViD>
depends on the size of your chassis
<Openflames>
Internally worked fine
<Openflames>
They both fit
<Openflames>
And I had slots, so it worked
<jamezz>
Openflames , you must have bad luck... im old and never had an issue with AMD and ran then since they were making intels chips for intel , and poped out their own in the 386 days
<jamezz>
so unless its something you have personally ran into and not read , is prolly /dev/null
<Openflames>
Luck is pretty good, but AMd has always run hot
<Mercosity>
Ok that'll be a good stop gap until I can use my 8 PCI-E x4 slots for external adapters. Need money, more GRC.
<HViD>
multi-gpu shouldnt be a big problem for mining/crunching - you will only get issues if you want them to cooperate for games etc (SLi, Crossfire etc), although rumors are saying directx12 will disregard this and just eat it all
<Openflames>
I know the Phenom is a legend though
<customminer>
You can hack your windows drivers to go over 4 GPUs, but it works flawlessly in Linux.
<Mercosity>
Not worried about gaming. Can use my son's xbox if I need a hit of GTA.
<apc>
I might need to move my rig to under my desk. it's loud. but I don't wanna. it looks all cool sitting on top
<fediverse>
(info: try also my commands: !usd or !eur)
<stevescoins>
!rainactive 1.5 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! stevescoins rained 0.15 GRC on active users coinictus, HViD, fediverse, AJG, Emptybeerbottle, Erkan_Yilmaz, Gary760, MrControll, GRCB0T, moisesm123! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<fediverse>
stevescoins your rain wave hit me, I just flew 7m away from my chair
<Emptybeerbottle>
Thanks stevescoins \o/
<HViD>
2 things - remember to get it with the powerplug, otherwise you will have issues (x4 is only 25watt iirc) and be sure your psu is big enough :)
<MrControll>
:)
<moisesm123>
tyy
<HViD>
Thanks Stevescoins
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<Gary760>
ty
<Openflames>
I need to buy modern monitors so I can move my vga extra monitors to hdmi/dp, then get a better ups so it can support more than 390 watts without throwing a fit
<HViD>
ups or psu?
<Openflames>
ups
<Openflames>
psu is 750w, but bronze (idk why I didn't go gold >:Y)
<GRCB0T>
Title: Orbital Dr Who - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
<Openflames>
Say you have 2 different fully modular psu's, can you swap the modular cables between them without issue? Or are cables unique to the psu?
<HViD>
they should be identical
<HViD>
if in doubt you can check the tech sheets of both psu's
<HViD>
should be possible to find
<HViD>
all modular psu's ive seen have been sleeved however the actual cables have been the proper color, so it might be enough to check them
<Openflames>
Fair enough
<HViD>
red: 5v, yellow: 12v, black: 0v
<Openflames>
black is the ground wire isnt it?
<HViD>
yes
<Openflames>
I recall from a wall outlet wiring diagram... guessed.
<Openflames>
I have minimal electrical knowledge, but learning. The more I learn the more I realize how little I know :T
<HViD>
what will start to f*ck you over in this game is when big players (i.e. shitty HP!!) change the standards slightly but enough so standard replacements dont work
<apc>
that's called science :)
<apc>
^openflames
<HViD>
anyway I'm off to bed. thanks for the chat and goodnight to all of you :)
<GRCB0T>
Title: Madeon - Pay No Mind (ft. Passion Pit) - YouTube (at youtu.be)
<apc>
I want food but I don't wanna do anything or go anywhere
<Openflames>
Girlfriend and I intimately know that feeling apc
<Openflames>
Ordering delivery is the solution
<apc>
pizza place is like three blocks away. but that is tempting
<Openflames>
I will now bestow upon you the greatest password
<Openflames>
Noble-Chicken-Unit
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<reddy1975>
!stats
<fediverse>
My dear reddy1975, sent the result via private message
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<coinictus>
goodnight
<Openflames>
Take care
<Emptybeerbottle>
o/
<Mercosity>
nite coinctus
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<Mercosity>
coinictus
<Mercosity>
!stats
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<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast Mercosity, the !stats result was sent via PM
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<Bouowmx>
Is there a way to view how GPU resources are partitioned? When I am browsing, SETI@home GPU tasks take twice as long to complete
<Bouowmx>
GPU is AMD Radeon R9 270X
<Openflames>
In your boinc manager, there is a setting that disables the gpu when the computer is not idle - is that box checked?
<Openflames>
options > computing preferences > Computing (down near the middle)
<Bouowmx>
I set Activity > Use GPU always
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<Openflames>
hmm..
<Phay>
Peppernrino. Destroyer of Pussys
<Phay>
Eater of Planets
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<Openflames>
Creator of bots
<Phay>
Pepper. Eater of children
<Openflames>
Sorry, I don't know how to monitor gpu resources
<Phay>
Openflames. Slayer of boners
<Openflames>
Aw, I don't want that title!
<Openflames>
I'm way prettier than that.
<Openflames>
I'm so hot I'm on fire.
<apc>
hrm, def can't move rig to under desk. I realize that if rain ever did manage to make it in the duct, it would run straight down and in
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<Openflames>
That would be bad
<apc>
it's not crazy loud. I really just don't want it bugging my cat since his food and water bowls are right next to it
<Openflames>
Poor cat, move the bowls :/
<apc>
dunno where else they can go
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<apc>
they're on a bench to keep them off the floor so roaches don't find it
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<apc>
old building full of them
<Openflames>
I'm heading home, going to transfer into my new case tonight
<WhitesoxCrypto>
hi all again
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<apc>
bye
<apc>
hi
<apc>
bye, food!
<WhitesoxCrypto>
apc: bon appettit!!
<mrtrousers>
best cpu boinc project?
<mrtrousers>
I think im going to try pogs
<Bouowmx>
I've had good luck with Rosetta@home and World Community Grid
<mrtrousers>
Bouowmx im not gettin any rosetta work.. Are you gettin any?
<Bouowmx>
I do not currently participate in Rosetta but I don't remember trouble getting tasks
<Bouowmx>
Check project preferences?
<mrtrousers>
ok, lets try that
<mrtrousers>
i dont think thats the issue
<mrtrousers>
pogs started asap with no problems
<Bouowmx>
Tools > Event Log (Ctrl + Shift + E)
<mrtrousers>
Mmm, what should i see in there?
<Bouowmx>
Any issues with Rosetta@home?
<mrtrousers>
can't resolve host name
<Mercosity>
oh
<Bouowmx>
Rosetta down for maintenance?
<mrtrousers>
MIght be, but their web is accesible.
<mrtrousers>
Later on it says scheduler request complete but 0 new tasks
<Bouowmx>
I noticed that: really odd
<Mercosity>
no Rosetta is not down
<mrtrousers>
Are you getting tasks Mercosity?
<Mercosity>
Just updated and connected. I've so many tasks on my server due to do al deadlined for 27th august +-
<Mercosity>
*all
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<Mercosity>
Only takes me 5hrs / wu but when I run them I run 7/8 @a time.
<Mercosity>
all rosetta mini
<Mercosity>
Try and suspend every thing but rossetta and update rossetta. Should get some then.
<Mercosity>
mrtrousers
<mrtrousers>
I tried that
<mrtrousers>
Ill give it another go though
<Mercosity>
suspend all except and check how many days of wus you can hold in preferences. Normal setting I think is 0.5 increase to 1.0
<mrtrousers>
It downloads master file but doesent get tasks
<Mercosity>
check days of wu. sounds chinese?
<Mercosity>
then update again & check event log.
<Mercosity>
mrtrousers: Any joy?
<mrtrousers>
Na
<mrtrousers>
Ill send them a message
<Mercosity>
wierd or weird?
<mrtrousers>
weird
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<jamezz>
weeeee , what a predicament
<Mercosity>
Don't worry I have problems with yafu. Sits @ 99.983% for ages doesn't seem to run but say it is elapsed changes but remaiing doesn't!!
<mrtrousers>
I think my machines are the most effective on seti, but i want to crunch a bit for other projects..
<Mercosity>
Yes seti is easy but there are too many people doing it.
<Mercosity>
Try POEM or WCG
<mrtrousers>
Im doing pogs for a bit, but poem and wcg might be good choice
<mrtrousers>
I wanted to do a bit of something related to disease
<mrtrousers>
My machines, lol, dude gets a few shells and already talks about his machines, lol
<mrtrousers>
Theres a lot of idling people, are they in here forever?
<Mercosity>
Remembering that WCG you have to divide their points by 7 to get an idea of BOINC credits
<Mercosity>
mrtrousers: What sort of kit do you have?
<mrtrousers>
I have a laptop i5 4 cores i think, with a gpu 740
<mrtrousers>
Ive got some cloud trials and juicing them up.
<mrtrousers>
One with 12 cpu, another 8 cpu, another 4 cpu another 1 cpu
<Bouowmx>
The only 4-core Intel Core i5s are generation 6
<Bouowmx>
You probably mean 2-core with Hyper-threading
<mrtrousers>
Maybe
<mrtrousers>
I wanted some cloud gpu's for gridgpu challenge but couldnt get them.
<Mercosity>
Cloud trials should blow through WCG no problem mapping cancer can be heavy though.
<mrtrousers>
And the ones i got are more like for autocad and stuff like that. THey will be usefull cuz i do photogrametry, surface reconstruction, gis and stuff like that..
<Mercosity>
WCG!
<Mercosity>
POEM
<mrtrousers>
i5-3230M CPU
<Mercosity>
Who've you got them through I was going to investigate that. But @ mo have enough to tick along.
<mrtrousers>
aws, google compute, interoute
<mrtrousers>
azure
<Mercosity>
mrtrousers: yes 2 cores
<mrtrousers>
softlayer, but softlayer asks for too many things and had to drop the shell
<Mercosity>
which can be done without c card?
<mrtrousers>
None
<mrtrousers>
And if you go over or not cancel youll get charged
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<Mercosity>
ok thought so none around anymore.
<mrtrousers>
Softlayer after cc, wanted identity card, and then my soul, lol
<mrtrousers>
none around of what?
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<Mercosity>
used to be too late now. Don't use credit cards. Only ones I can top up.
<mrtrousers>
I think its amazing you can try them free
<mrtrousers>
Well yea, i have debit card, but it still goes through
<Mercosity>
Debit & credit now the same visa.
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<mrtrousers>
BUt with debit you cant spend money you dont have.
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<sbits>
actually, you can..sort of
<mrtrousers>
how?
<Mercosity>
No but if you screw up they can take from your account as it's connected.
<sbits>
as long as i have a dollar on my debit card, I can fill up with gas
<mrtrousers>
Na, debit is debit
<sbits>
ya
<Mercosity>
Yup!
<mrtrousers>
No charge over my account balance will pass
<sbits>
it hits my bank in 3 days
<sbits>
any pay at pump charge will for me
<Mercosity>
A lot of 're not alone.people don't realise that you
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<Mercosity>
wot rubbish!
<sbits>
it takes a dollar to verify, than I can fill up..it's a bank debit, and even on my paypal debit card..I always make sure there is a dollar for emergencies :)
<Mercosity>
A lot of people don't realise you're not alone.
<mrtrousers>
I do agree though that without cc would be better
<mrtrousers>
Mercosity i dont understand
<Mercosity>
I use a top up c card and if there's no money there's no money. Can't get blood from a stone. Not connected in any way to my bank account.
<mrtrousers>
well yea, but as i said a debit card is a debit card
<Mercosity>
Use it for all internet tranactions, safe, safe.
<mrtrousers>
my bank and I know that
<mrtrousers>
If i have 1 dollar and go to the supermarket, or try to buy an airplane ticket, i cant
<sbits>
I can't either
<sbits>
but I can get gas
<mrtrousers>
Even if you have no balance?
<sbits>
No, I have to have 1 dollar..it's what the gas pumps verify
<Mercosity>
Your debit card is connected to your bank account so you can get credit ie gas etc. It won't bounce you'll just go overdrawn at the bank.
<sbits>
correct
<sbits>
but it only works at the pumps, I can't use it like that anywhere else
<sbits>
I use it, and have, if I need to in an emergency. it comes in handy. As long as I get some money to the bank within 3 days, it's all good, and I don't get overdrawn
<mrtrousers>
Virtual cards are also quiet safe
<Mercosity>
My top up card is not connected to my bank account. So no money, no money. They can only get what is there.
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<sbits>
right, and it's best that way
<mrtrousers>
ALso bear in mind if you are wrongfully charged your bank will return the money.
<Mercosity>
But the bank charges you a service fee which covers it. I pay a tiny percentage out of what I put in.
<Mercosity>
Same with my card. I have all the benefits with no risks.
<Mercosity>
I also link my card to paypal and get double safety
* apc
eats chicken tenders and fried cheese balls
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<apc>
my heart is strong. it can take it
<Mercosity>
didn't know cheese had balls?
<apc>
mooooo
<mrtrousers>
said the mouse
<Mercosity>
ceese sweetmeats!
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<Mercosity>
*cheese
<apc>
dunno why fried food is so good for a hangover
<Mercosity>
squeeze a cow today for strong bones hmmmm calcium
<apc>
drank too much during the mumble yesterday. think I'm gonna lay off for a while hehehe
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<Mercosity>
mrtrousers as you can see I have a healthy fear of the internet, Old expression - Once bitten, twice shy!
<mrtrousers>
suchflex pays you for your extra cpu, gpu time?
<mrtrousers>
HOw do they make their money?
<mrtrousers>
Are they boincing and gettint gridcoins? They must really believe in grc, then..
<mrtrousers>
Or maybe they resell it as a cloud cpu/gpu?
<mrtrousers>
Its a good idea, i like suchflex
<Mercosity>
They take a 20% commission. as far as I know. I seriously looking @ it. The CEO was with us last night in the hangout.
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<apc>
I'm guessing right now they're paying their users out of capital investment
<apc>
while they find clients
<mrtrousers>
Who is he?
<Mercosity>
You get paid in their crypto and you swap it for grc.
<mrtrousers>
They pay you in their own crypto? what is its name?
<mrtrousers>
I guess they dont pay much, and that users forget about electricity costs..
<Mercosity>
Can't remember the name, apc was there doubt he'll remember either. Listen to soundcloud when it comes out and you'll find out all about it.
<apc>
yeah he introduced himself but name was gone from my brain after that
<Mercosity>
me too
<mrtrousers>
They take 20 % comision on what?
<Mercosity>
I never write things down when I know I can find out some other way don't waste energy.
<apc>
peppernrino was the minuteman anyway :D
<apc>
20% of your earnings
<Mercosity>
Listen to soundcloud when it comes out and you'll find out all about it.
<mrtrousers>
They mainly pay for gpu
<mrtrousers>
Do you get 10$ for everyone that joins?
<apc>
I can see it being useful later on, like nicehash, but I don't see anything that you can't do without them
<apc>
maybe when they have more clients it'll be cool
<Phay>
cool
<mrtrousers>
Basically its their way of building their cloud infrastructure, which then they rent out
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<mrtrousers>
HOnestly.. I rather grc mine
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<mrtrousers>
Unless they think theyv found a coin with lots of upside potential, in that case they might be mining.
<mrtrousers>
IN the other hand if they promote boinc and grc its all good
<mrtrousers>
I dont know how i found that, but i did: