<mrtrousers>
Its just i stoped/closed boinc, but the boinc process wont go away
<Peppernrino>
only if i need some chapstick
<mrtrousers>
Its using my resources
<customminer>
mrtrousers: try closing the gridcoin client, launching boinc then closing it to see if it occurs when gridcoin was never running alongside boinc?
<xXUnRealXx>
usually some projects will run in background like SZTAKI till lits done
<mrtrousers>
Using BOINC all afternoon and awarded nothing, and when i close it keeps coming back
<customminer>
mrtrousers: If so, maybe report it as an issue on the boinc repo
<Peppernrino>
that's sneaky
<Peppernrino>
you make it sound like a virus lol
<customminer>
mrtrousers: Not awarded nothing? You're rewarded on top of staking, so a larger balance increases frequency of payouts.
<xXUnRealXx>
sztaki don't stop with boinc till its finished the WU than it wont start another.
<customminer>
mrtrousers: unless you're using the pool? then it's every few days (whenever katiee pays out)
<Peppernrino>
"Refer Does Not Match Site Domain.If you are developing this means the ads will work on live (Assuming domain is correct)"
<mrtrousers>
The thing is my boinc is not doing any progress on cpu time or run time, is still at 0
<customminer>
mrtrousers: what project?
<mrtrousers>
I did pogs and asteroids
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<mrtrousers>
trying the cpu and the gpu
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* Peppernrino
is drinking a kraken and mango nectar
<customminer>
mrtrousers: could be a project specific issue? keep crunching ;D
<Peppernrino>
if the progress is still at 0%, something is wrong
<Peppernrino>
like, ONE of them should have moved by now...
<mrtrousers>
Yes
<customminer>
hmm..
<mrtrousers>
well now i launch boing but it stucks at retrieving
<mrtrousers>
and for it to work i have to delete the folder with all the data from previous "work"
<Peppernrino>
how can you tell it's using cpu? are you using resmon.exe? (best tool windows has to offer pretty much)
<mrtrousers>
i will just kill the boinc pid see what happens
<Peppernrino>
have a LOT of patience with it. some things take like 5 minutes for me, but they work
<Peppernrino>
if you're using enough cpu, you're gonna go bye bye
<Peppernrino>
i get explorer resets when i kill boinc from TM
<customminer>
trial and error, googling to see if other users are experiencing similar issues
<Peppernrino>
use startpage customminer
<customminer>
I do, the term 'googling/google' has stuck though.
<Peppernrino>
LOL me too
<Peppernrino>
i'm to start saying startpage that.... but it usually just starts a converstion i don't want.
<apc>
kleenex, bandaid
<Peppernrino>
+trying
<Peppernrino>
q-tip
<apc>
:D
<apc>
got a 1x6 and a little flappy dryer duct hood thingy
<Peppernrino>
johnson&johnson have their branding shit on lock.
<Peppernrino>
lol
<apc>
inputting enchiladas before I begin
<mrtrousers>
sudo kill 10995
<Peppernrino>
lol again
<customminer>
mrtrousers: wrong window, bro.
<customminer>
:P
<Peppernrino>
irc can't help you
<apc>
sudo rm -rf /
<Peppernrino>
ARE YOU USING RESMON, OR BULLSHIT TASK MANAGER?
<mrtrousers>
top
<customminer>
htop
* Peppernrino
slaps mrtrousers around a bit with a large trout
<apc>
grlz on top
<customminer>
lol
<Peppernrino>
girls on film...
<apc>
hahahaha
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<apc>
op me cus I'm lame
<Peppernrino>
that's no reason.
<Peppernrino>
i'd nominate moises before you. for good reason.
<customminer>
lol
<Peppernrino>
also +V my bot. you're making me look like shit to the plebs
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<Peppernrino>
*cough* unreal is a bitch *cough*
<Peppernrino>
GRCB0T: i love you.
<mrtrousers>
THe thing is you allow BOINC when you want, but after you stop it for some reason it shouldnt keep accesing resources.
<GRCB0T>
Title: Streetlight Manifesto - The Three Of Us (Audio) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
<Peppernrino>
listen. good song.
<Peppernrino>
*great song.
<apc>
streetlight manifesto
<apc>
streetlights are stupid. I hate it already :P
<customminer>
hahah the wee mascot kid for jamacia was dabbing
<customminer>
what a boss
<Peppernrino>
i like hitting analog things
<Peppernrino>
hitting dabs in the entrance ceremony?
<Peppernrino>
ftw
<customminer>
haha
<Peppernrino>
"will you sink with the ship, or will you burn it down?"
* Peppernrino
burns one down
<Mercosity>
I'm lighting up in the shade under the Kaffirboom again and eating cream of tartar seeds from the nearest Baobab tree. Whilst drinking a frosty.
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<Peppernrino>
most of that doesn't make sense to me.
<Peppernrino>
but it sounds good! :P
<Mercosity>
I'm lighting up a splif in the shade under the Kaffirboom again and eating cream of tartar seeds from the nearest Baobab tree. Whilst drinking a frosty.
<apc>
I need a drill
<apc>
and a table saw
<apc>
and unlimited funding
<Peppernrino>
lol
<Peppernrino>
the weed part was the only thing i wouldn't have to google
<Peppernrino>
i've heard the word baobob before... but i have no idea what one is
<Peppernrino>
apc: that's not too much to ask.
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<Peppernrino>
hm. ping of death.
<Mercosity>
Good, most people understand - shade, eating, drinking and not much more.
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<Peppernrino>
oh my. that worked. nice.
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<Peppernrino>
..
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<GRCB0T>
!rainactive 4 20
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! GRCB0T rained 0.2 GRC on active users Erkan_Yilmaz, Mercosity, coinictus, mrtrousers, bob21, xXUnRealXx, Peppernrino, WhitesoxCrypto, KatBot, xms, Deviantone, NeuralMiner, RoyalPhay, sbits, stevescoins, slimeball, jamezz, apc, fediverse, AJG! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<fediverse>
GRCB0T God loves you, and we do, too :-)
<AtomicSlug>
Hey.
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<AtomicSlug>
Baobab is a tree from Africa yes.
<Peppernrino>
little vpn hiccup there
<Peppernrino>
new wallet?
<Peppernrino>
!wallet
<fediverse>
get the Gridcoin wallet software from here:
<apc>
I could prolly do it quick if I pulled my gpus off ether
<jamezz>
yeah! olympics
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<Mercosity>
Go for it. You getting no WUs.
* fkinglag-mobile
steals yo WUs
<apc>
I'm only crunching cpu projects. ether is more profitable, I think, until it goes pos. towards the end of the year prolly, or early next year. gotta pay for all this hardware I finally found a use for
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<Mercosity>
Got it exactly my thoughts. Got a bit more to add on soon and then my GPU farm hanging off my server.
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<Mercosity>
I've got 240Mb broadband to play with now but can pop up to 360Mb for a couple of bucks.
<apc>
niiiiiice
<apc>
I had free 5mbit but finally broke down and paid for 15 :D
<Mercosity>
Still got a free network port on server o I can runeverthing through there.
<Mercosity>
*so
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<apc>
oh no wait, I have 25mbit, it costs $15/mo
<apc>
google fiber
<apc>
gigabit for $70/mo, but I have no need for such speeds
<Mercosity>
The soon stuff is a cut down laptop (no screen) and a DEC Alpha RISC Server, just need to be plugged in somewher I can make space.
<apc>
my dad worked for DEC
<apc>
I played wolfenstein on his company laptop
<Mercosity>
360Mb is plenty, always on unlimited.
<Mercosity>
It used to be my server at work, grew so fond of it I took it home.
<Mercosity>
Alpha, originally known as Alpha AXP, is a 64-bit reduced instruction set computing (RISC) instruction set developed by Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), designed to replace their 32-bit VAX complex instruction set computer (CISC) instruction set.
<Mercosity>
A mouth full.
<fkinglag-mobile>
mmhmmm I know some of these words
<Mercosity>
Runs on Open VMS Tru64bit UNIX or Windows NT server.
<apc>
my first job was at CompUSA. the cashiers had vax/vms terminals. I'd send them console messages from the warehouse
<apc>
"this is god. you've been very naughty."
<apc>
compusa was a computer retailer in the late 90s early 00s
<GRCB0T>
Title: DEC Alpha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
<apc>
wow I didn't realize they kept selling alphas
<Mercosity>
This mc would have been the server for that system but yours was the earlier 32bit VAX.
<apc>
green screens
<Mercosity>
Yes the wax was green crt. This supercedes this with a full vga card.
<apc>
I never got into alphas beyond that. sparcs were my thang
<apc>
I got a sparc2 off ebay back when ebay first started. pulled a 21" monitor out of a dumpster for it. worked fine. just used it to read mail on pine.
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<Mercosity>
Yeah was into those too. Funny world. I got so many antiques here I could start a museum of hardware apart from the sw, phew.
<apc>
teehee!
<apc>
in my tiny apartment, it either serves a purpose or it gets donated
<Mercosity>
Books out the wazoo, some I haven't opened for years.
<apc>
in the Great Purge of 2014 I went from a 1500sqft house to a 300sqft studio. in fact I'm due for another purging. getting too much stuff
<Mercosity>
All sw hardware oriented. Even got original DOS 6.0 on floppy.
<apc>
6.0? not 6.2? hahahaha
<Mercosity>
6.0!
<Mercosity>
In fact - DOS 6.0, 6.2, 6.22, Windows for work groups and all up to today Win 10. Also Red Hat Linux 6.2 + others.
<apc>
my first linny was slackware 1.2.3. took me a month just to get ppp working
<Mercosity>
I've a working 486DX2 66Mhz Desktop I play retro games on.
<apc>
megaman!
<apc>
er no
<apc>
too fast
<apc>
I played megaman on a 286
<apc>
it mightve been an 8086 even
<apc>
green screen "portable", keyboard latched onto the front
<apc>
I miss my atari
<apc>
never should've sold it
<Mercosity>
Also a Compaq Desk Pro running Windows 95.
<Mercosity>
They say 3d but it wasn't just better graphics than Wolfenstein.
<apc>
my dad got mad at me for playing it
<apc>
because I was killing people
<apc>
"but, but... they're nazis!"
<Mercosity>
We're laughing here, my son and me. He's 20 and had a computer mouse as a rattle and chewit!
<Mercosity>
You know the ones with the ball in it. They rattle.
<apc>
back when mice were men.
<bob21>
digitized audio on the Apple ][ was a big deal
<bob21>
halt! comen zi! vos pass! heil!
<apc>
"guten tag!" says the dude mowing you down with a pair of chain guns
<bob21>
lol. kill a kraut and they went "aieee!"
<apc>
my 290x has entered the city
* apc
rubs hands together
<Mercosity>
Jeez, I rember the 1st Apple and then Macintosh. I'd already been playing with the the IBM PC 8068 and IBM PC2 80286. Oh yes and the 1st clone The Vanilla out of Tiawan.
<apc>
I didn't really get into it until we got our 486. an sx 33 I think.
<apc>
2400baud
<apc>
256meg hd
<Mercosity>
Just rembered - WordStar the first WP package for the PC.
<apc>
then I discovered the anarchist cookbook and got into a lot of trouble
<Mercosity>
Still got an SX33 processor somewhere.
<apc>
I was... 13
<bob21>
apple ][, amiga, first pc was a 386dx I think
<Mercosity>
Whoopeeee!
<Mercosity>
Anyone heard of CPM?
<apc>
elaborate
<bob21>
heard of yes
<Mercosity>
Fore runner of DOS.
<apc>
then nope. other than what I learned watching pirates of silicon valley
<bob21>
for some reason the name Osborn pops to mind
<apc>
Chickenheads Per Minute
<Mercosity>
You know you can still play a lot of the old games on new kit using DOSBox-0.74
<bob21>
Bingo -- Osborne 1 CP/M
<Mercosity>
Great stories from around that time when Bill Gates pulled ablinder on IBM.
<bob21>
yep.. used dosbox to play leisure suit larry again
<Mercosity>
Fun.
<bob21>
no mag since I upgraded/restarted wallet :(
<apc>
took me about a day before it updated my mag
<apc>
and it froze and crashed a cpl times in there, thanks to mercosity
<bob21>
ok. Seems like it usually just takes a few hours at most
<Mercosity>
The Bill nicked OS1 developed by Xerox in their Palo Alto Lab and made Windows.
<apc>
OS2 warp
<apc>
into the foootooore
<Mercosity>
OS2 crash and burn.
<Mercosity>
My blame?
<bob21>
I think mac stole the mouse from xerox too, no?
<Mercosity>
Did you rebuild?
<Mercosity>
After Bill.
<apc>
you said the neuralnet froze your wallet. so I opened neuralnet... and it froze my wallet.
<apc>
had you not said anything, my wallet would not have frozen
<apc>
therefore
<apc>
your fault.
<Mercosity>
Oh!
<Mercosity>
Ok.
<Mercosity>
I apologise profusely and bow my head in shame.
<apc>
damn straight.
<bob21>
so I unlocked for staking only and voila, mag is back
<apc>
oh. right. yeah. do that.
<bob21>
lol, thanks apc :)
<Mercosity>
Your Mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elder berries!
* apc
lives to serve
<Mercosity>
Bring on the Holy Hand Grenade!
<apc>
!
<apc>
no
<apc>
we're not going down that path
<Mercosity>
Monty Python - Holy Grail.
<apc>
leave monty out of this
<apc>
nopnopnop
<apc>
nonono
<apc>
ninini
<apc>
ARRRRGGGG
<Mercosity>
He's an ex parrot, he's gone to meet his maker. Nudge, nudge wink wink.
<apc>
I'm changing tabs now
<Mercosity>
Valium?
<apc>
chromium
<Mercosity>
I prefer Valium and firefox!
<Mercosity>
*F
<Mercosity>
I'm not a Googelist.
<apc>
I like centralization sometimes
<apc>
it's easier
<apc>
privacy is a myth anyway
<Mercosity>
Yeah I suppose you're right. I'd prefer a myth to a missus any day!
<Mercosity>
I think it's time to go snooze. It's 5:54am here.
<apc>
that's like sunrise
<apc>
er well
<apc>
I guess an hour or so till for you
<apc>
yeah
<apc>
sleep you crazy bastard
<Phay>
I feel
<Phay>
rotten
<Phay>
bby
<Phay>
oh. meds :I
<apc>
prozac nomnomnom
<apc>
lunesta nomnomnom
<Mercosity>
I hope I succeeded in my goal, keeping you all amused and awake. Yes sun is up. In the immortal words said on album The Dark Side of the Moon - I'm mad, I'm mad, even my mother told me so. Gnite or Gmoaning.
<apc>
sweeeeet dreeeems
<Mercosity>
baby!
<apc>
it's so nice having that hot air ducted to the outside. oh my science, it's nice
<Phay>
that's hot
<Phay>
I had to just turn on my AC
<Phay>
31c
<Phay>
I can tolerate it, but want it lower
<Phay>
28C is my go to temp atm
<jamezz>
yeah! i just installed the english spell checker for this new win64 irc client AdIRC i might start looking smarter
<jamezz>
I prefer -40F to -40C
<jamezz>
what about you phay?
<jamezz>
if you had to choose?
<Phay>
I'd choose not to feel like shit
<Phay>
24/7
<Phay>
that'd be nice
<Phay>
it'd be really fucking nice. but instead I have to put up with this bullshit body
* apc
puts on his half drunken tv doctor's hat
<apc>
why do you feel like shit?
<apc>
I'm a biology student, and not anywhere near a doctor
<Phay>
chronic pain and stuff. Sorry. I'm just venting my usual bothers
<jamezz>
you are up early , because normally its after midnight for me when you say that
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<apc>
fawk it's 1am
<Combined2857>
!help
<GRCB0T>
(help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands.
<Combined2857>
!balance
<GRCB0T>
please use '/msg GRCtip balance'. Use 'withdraw <yourGRCwalletaddress>' to withdraw your entire balance to your wallet for a fee of 0.02 GRC. Tipbot commands are !rain, !rainactive, and !tip.
<Combined2857>
Hello people
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<Combined2857>
I want to reinstall my OS, if I go to the wallet and press "Backup Wallet" that is all I have to do, or do I have to note some key down ?
<apc>
my understanding is yes, just save your .dat file and you're good
<caraka>
YOu will find a walletbackups folder in your ~/.GridcoinResearch folder. After doing your manual wallet backup, copy that whole folder to a usb disk and get it off the machine - just in case. It would also be useful to copy your gridcoinresearch.conf file as well, so you don;t have to recreate it
<caraka>
If you are doing a clean OS install, you have to get a few copies of wallet.dat off that machine or you are lost
<WhitesoxCrypto>
jamezz: it's 08.17 here...
<caraka>
The wallet backs itself up automatically every 900 blocks into that walletbackups folder.
<WhitesoxCrypto>
!info
<GRCB0T>
Error: The command "info" is available in the Factoids and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "info".
<caraka>
!8ball What would the !info command do if it existed?
<jamezz>
yep WhitesoxCrypto , i know most of this channel lives on the other side of this rock :)
* Erkan_Yilmaz
lives on the sunny side of the planet
<caraka>
No jamezz, I live on the other side of this rock
<WhitesoxCrypto>
!stats
<caraka>
Most people live on the other side of the ditch from you
<jamezz>
caraka , i thought you were on the other side of the moon.
<jamezz>
the dark side
<caraka>
lol. 18:19 Saturday here. And yes it is dark
<caraka>
!
<caraka>
in winter, it gets dark early
<apc>
holy shit. craka is from the future!
<caraka>
I am the gridcoin futurist, yes
<jamezz>
ya that trips me out too apc
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<caraka>
Although to be fair, Nycti actually lives slightly inthe future than me, but the same time zone. :P
<apc>
who won the US presidency in 2016? what is the GRC to USD value in the year 2023? will we ever have flying cars?!?!?!
<jamezz>
like how its winter at the Olympics ?
<caraka>
He's is Gisborne, the first land to see the sun anywhere in the world
<jamezz>
please dont say trump
<jamezz>
we already have flying cars
<apc>
I don't have a flying car.
<jamezz>
know of any bridges>?
<caraka>
fediverse must have gone to sleep. :P
<caraka>
oh no he's back
<caraka>
!8ball What would the !info command do if it existed?
<fediverse>
signs point to yes
<caraka>
!8ball What would the !info command do if it existed?
<fediverse>
outlook good
<jamezz>
but we do , the are just $$$ and it was sweeden i think that came out with the first followed by germany
<apc>
do you have a flying car?
<Phay>
I
<Phay>
won't
<Phay>
do it
<Phay>
you can't make me caraka
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<caraka>
eat your brocoli Phay or else!
<jamezz>
no but if we put wings i am sure i could get it airborn.. now if you got the wallet working and stable your smart and i think we could do it... some carbon fiber...
<caraka>
and your brussel sprouts!
<jamezz>
i do have a 5.8l v8
<jamezz>
big block 351 cleavland
<caraka>
!tip Phay .1
<GRCtip>
caraka tipped Phay 0.1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
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<caraka>
typical fedivers. give me crap answers and then leave. :D
<apc>
I have a 100hp 1.5L
<jamezz>
it carries 55g and 12g of gas has captains chairs and extra electrical ac in the back she is made for the air... just in 1984 ford didnt know it
<apc>
tho I just got a cold air intake
<apc>
installing it tomorrow
<apc>
then, maybe, 110hp
<apc>
zoom zoom!
<Combined2857>
thanks caraka
<jamezz>
omg sweeden is the first country of 100 beautiful females so far coming out in the Olympics...
<apc>
it's 3am there
<Combined2857>
caraka: so I just backup my ~/.GridcoinResearch in a thumb drive and thats it
<apc>
those are hookers
<caraka>
Combined2857: yes, that would do it!
<Combined2857>
how did you guys know I even use linux ? :)
<apc>
caraka versioned you
<caraka>
I'm nix only so I assume everyone is nix until they correct me
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<caraka>
which distro Combined2857?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!info
<GRCB0T>
Error: The command "info" is available in the Factoids and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "info".
<fediverse>
Welcome to a channel with Gridcoin enthusiasts! Go along and conribute and/or ask Gridcoin-related questions. You can also execute commands here, e.g. !help
<caraka>
!8ball What would the !info command do if it existed?
<fediverse>
never
<caraka>
!8ball Would Erkan be happy if you were not in his life?
<Combined2857>
caraka: linux mint, I will transition from 17.3 to 18 today
<fediverse>
most likely
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
;-)
<caraka>
very good combined
<Combined2857>
but in due time I think we should implement password protected wallet
<caraka>
your wallet encryption password will continue to work, but the autounlock hash in the conf will need to be updated after teh fresh install
<caraka>
^^^^^^^ it exists
<Combined2857>
ah I see
<caraka>
so don;lt encrypt now, wait until after the fresh install
<caraka>
then we can talk about it...
<apc>
!8ball will we talk about it?
<fediverse>
it is certain
<caraka>
and yes, you should encrypt your wallet and then unlock for staking purposes only
<Combined2857>
caraka: one more question, I live in a country where we still have internet per GB charge so I will go and download everything from my uni, but there I can't connect to the p2p network to download the blockchain. I foud this link http://download.gridcoin.us/download/downloadstake/signed/snapshot.zip , my question is, after I download this where in the ~/.GridcoinResearch should I extract it ?
<GRCB0T>
Title: Linux guide - Gridcoin (at wiki.gridcoin.us)
<fediverse>
good morning, GRC world.
<caraka>
good morning coinictus
<fediverse>
good morning, maybe?
<caraka>
Combined2857: If you save the entire ~/.GridcoinResearch folder, you are saving the blockchain too. Just exit the wallet properly and it will work
<Combined2857>
caraka: I still haven't downloaded the blockchain in this installation as well :(
<Combined2857>
so I really need to do it through that snapshot
<caraka>
ah, OK. then use the link I just pasted above. it tells you where to unzip it into the ~/.GridcoinResearch folder
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<caraka>
Yes, definitely much easier to use the snapshot
<caraka>
and it will take about an hour and a half for the new wallet to sync frm the snapshot, possibly needing one restart in the process
<caraka>
Have you got any gridcoinin this wallet of yours Combined2857?
<vega40k>
good morning from germany to all gridcoinkers
<caraka>
morgan vega40k
<Combined2857>
caraka: yes some people have sent me grc in this wallet, although i dont have the blockchain so the wallet was never synced with the network, I found a address inside that the wallet provided and people send me a small amount there, overall my address must have about 40 grc, but I don't know because I never downloaded the blockchain
<caraka>
or morgen if you can spell
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<caraka>
In that case save the wallet.dat and with any luck there will be some pennies when you sync!
<Combined2857>
thank you caraka
<caraka>
After you save the ~/.GridcoinResearch folder to usb, take it to uni and unzip the snapshot in it and then bring it home. all good
<caraka>
A slow machine can ake several hours to sync from snapshot....
<Combined2857>
Yes I will try it tonight thank you, those damn university networks are a pain
<caraka>
The snapshot is currently 579MB
<caraka>
(zipped)
<caraka>
log onto your neighbour's wifi
<WhitesoxCrypto>
!blobk
<WhitesoxCrypto>
!block
<GRCB0T>
627387
<fediverse>
total Gridcoin blocks = 627387
<WhitesoxCrypto>
hi, what to do if my wallet has no connections?? headless ubuntu
<KatBot>
GridCoin.co: RPC Failed with status code 0
<Peppernrino>
the work you do is put against the work other people do in the same project.
<Peppernrino>
keeps it "fair"
<Peppernrino>
like an average of averages
<Peppernrino>
your credit will be frequently referred to as RAC, meaning recent average crdit
<Peppernrino>
+e
<Peppernrino>
your RAC vs other people's RAC gives you your magnitude.
<Peppernrino>
your magnitude plus your balance is what determines how you stake. :)
<Peppernrino>
the blocks are on a timer. 50,000 coins per block.
<Peppernrino>
they aren't "mined"
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!staking
<fediverse>
Staking is the process of attempting to generate the next block in the blockchain. Your stake weight is a balance of your wallet balance (quantity of GRC) and your magnitude. See also: !pos and http://wiki.gridcoin.us/FAQ#Staking_.28Interest.29
<aybiss2>
i would hit this wcg challenge, but my rigs just finally got attached to climateprediction on the pool so i'm locked in for about a week of crunching lol
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!challenge next
<fediverse>
these are special challenges (initiated by team Gridcoin itself):
<greo>
probably gonna pass the diagnostics soon... depending on which RAC it needs to go above 100 :)
<aybiss2>
can tablets/phones join the pool? i used to crunch with mine but it's diminishing returns
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
aybiss2 when you have low GRC, and also in other cases, most of the times the UI's indicator when you stake is wrong
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
aybiss2: tablets/phones <- as long as you can add the pool, why not ? e.g. on android boinc you can not add the pool, so you must go for a non-android OS option
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
nice, greo
<greo>
but on my windows BOINC manager it's showing the android tasks also... and it's the same account... so pool options must be the same i guess ?
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<aybiss2>
i dont' think android BOINC has the 'add account manager' option
<Emptybeerbottle>
Good morning
<slimeball>
yes
<fediverse>
morning, didn't have coffee yet. What's going on with IBERCIVIS btw?
<slimeball>
install native boinc from the play store
<slimeball>
it will let you enter a url for manager
<slimeball>
i use pool.gridcoin.co via 3 android devices
<greo>
and what about the gridcoin clients Advanved > advanced config > pool mining tick ?
<slimeball>
trick?
<greo>
slimeball just what i did
<slimeball>
oh tick
<greo>
yep
<slimeball>
sorry i just got out of bed , to turn off my desktop monitors sec
<greo>
how does it matter.. u jut put it
<greo>
hehe np :
<greo>
:)
<jamezz>
ok beds warm
<jamezz>
keep it there
<jamezz>
u want to pool
<jamezz>
how long you waiting?
<jamezz>
my first install it worked after 2 days
<jamezz>
but ya native boinc is awesome
<jamezz>
vs just google playstore boinc
<jamezz>
mostly because you can choose other than bam
<greo>
lemme checkit
<greo>
there is another andoboinc also :)
<aybiss2>
so i should install native boinc and not the official boinc app?
<fediverse>
(info: try also my commands: !usd or !eur)
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<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!balance
<GRCB0T>
please use '/msg GRCtip balance'. Use 'withdraw <yourGRCwalletaddress>' to withdraw your entire balance to your wallet for a fee of 0.02 GRC. Tipbot commands are !rain, !rainactive, and !tip.
<fediverse>
YAFU factorizes numbers up to 140 digit length (which are needed to bring Aliquot Sequences to a size of at least 140) https://yafu.myfirewall.org/yafu/
<GRCB0T>
Title: YAFU (at yafu.myfirewall.org)
<moisesm123>
!ddm
<GRCB0T>
You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last 60 seconds; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
<moisesm123>
lol... It was not for GRCB0T -_-
<moisesm123>
Peppernrino!!!
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
GRCB0T has a different view on the world :-) too bot-centristic
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
so, moisesm123, I see you want me to finish to list all BOINC projects
<moisesm123>
haha it would be cool ;)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
yeah, will do soon
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<GRCB0T>
Title: Gridcoin Block Explorer | Grid Research Corporation (at www.gridresearchcorp.com)
<greo>
like ~663.6 days ago
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
there was Gridcoin classic before
<greo>
oh really ?
<greo>
i now about seti from the end of '90 but there was no gridcoin then...
<greo>
so when the official 'birth' of grc
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
october 2013 ?
<Jonbvn>
!rainactive 1.55782104 15
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Jonbvn rained 0.10385474 GRC on active users coinictus, bob21, stevescoins, ZaffTekk, moisesm123, Tahvok, GRCB0T, customminer, Erkan_Yilmaz, aybiss2, Emptybeerbottle, fediverse, tr0nic, YajuuSenpai, Quezacoatl! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<fediverse>
Jonbvn I'm going to fetch the rain bucket
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<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!history
<fediverse>
Gridcoin goes back to October 2013. Before the actual Gridcoin there was 'Gridcoin Classic' (mineable until April 2015), see more: http://wiki.gridcoin.us/Gridcoin-Classic
<fediverse>
(help how to use the snapshot via command: !snapshot howto )
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
:-)
<mrtrousers>
yes
<Tahvok>
Erkan_Yilmaz: the admin rights is true on win only. Can you somehow mention that?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
sure, will do now
<Tahvok>
!tip Erkan_Yilmaz 1
<GRCtip>
Tahvok tipped Erkan_Yilmaz 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<mrtrousers>
After downloading the blocks do you have to upgrade?
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: what's your wallet version?
<Tahvok>
I would suggest to always be on latest version
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
merci, Tahvok
<mrtrousers>
HOw do you find out version? I downloaded yesterday, so i think its last version
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: you're on some linux distro right?
<mrtrousers>
yes
<Tahvok>
ubuntu?
<mrtrousers>
yes
<Tahvok>
Then try
<Tahvok>
apt-get update
<Tahvok>
apt-get upgrade gridcoinresearch-qt
<Tahvok>
with sudo of course
<mrtrousers>
Ok, its upgrading..
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
though, from my fresh-user-experience, updating the blocks via UI didn't work for me under linux back then
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!version
<GRCB0T>
The current (running) version of this Limnoria is 2016.06.29, running on Python 3.4.3 (default, Oct 14 2015, 20:28:29) [GCC 4.8.4]. The newest versions available online are 2016.08.05 (in testing), 2016.06.29 (in master).
<fediverse>
4. extract the snapshot to folder from step2
<fediverse>
5. launch the Gridcoin client
<GRCB0T>
Title: List of Addnodes - Gridcoin (at wiki.gridcoin.us)
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<mrtrousers>
THis doesent work properly
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: what exactly?
<mrtrousers>
Boinc, the wallet, under linux
<mrtrousers>
Hope in windows its easier, otherwise potential users will back off..
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: what is the error? What doesn't work?
<mrtrousers>
Well for instance some buttons in the gui close the client
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<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: that
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: that's a problem
<Tahvok>
What buttons?
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<mrtrousers>
Im trying to do the snapshot now
<Tahvok>
Help us debug it, to make it easier
<mrtrousers>
WHen i download blockchain it, says upgrade or hide. Upgrade closes the client.
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: and that doesn't work? Iirc it does close the client, and open some other application which downloads the snapshot
<mrtrousers>
Then you restart and seems that nothing happened.
<Tahvok>
If that doesn't happen, then it's a bug
<mrtrousers>
well you see in the terminal something wants to happen but it doesent.
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: I would suggest to manually download the snapshot, and eaither me or someone else will look into this problem
<greo>
weep
<customminer>
using the snapshot zip is better, i agree that the downloader within the client is weird
<greo>
:}
<mrtrousers>
Ok i have the folder, how do i open a hidden folder in a window?
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: inside .GridcoinResearch dir, there exist debug.log. Can you click on download snapshot button again, and give me the latest ~100 rows of that log?
<mrtrousers>
ok
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: you should just type it at the url bar
<Tahvok>
I don't remember how to show dot files under Unity
<customminer>
/home/user/.GridcoinResearch
<Tahvok>
Rebooting, brb
<mrtrousers>
ok
<Tahvok>
back
<mrtrousers>
no the browser doesent like it either
<mrtrousers>
well that be the easy part in the terminal
<Tahvok>
You can extract to file in terminal as well
<Tahvok>
move it first:
<Tahvok>
mv snapshot.zip ~/.GridcoinResearch/
<Tahvok>
cd ~/.GridcoinResearch/
<Tahvok>
unzip snapshot.zip
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<fkinglag-mobile>
RIP fediverse
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<mrtrousers>
there is no wallet backup folder..
<mrtrousers>
should i delet gui_rpc_auth_conf
<mrtrousers>
?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
that is in the boinc dir
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
why delete stuff there? you are updating something for gridcoin, not boinc
<Tahvok>
Erkan_Yilmaz: probably he didn't make a backup, that's why there is nothing
<mrtrousers>
No thats in the .Gridcoinresearch
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<customminer>
Tahvok: just set the bots to ignore
<mrtrousers>
Anyway i deleted everythin except the snapshot, and wallet.dat and config file..
<mrtrousers>
What now? Should i start the wallet?
<customminer>
have you extracted the snapshot?
<mrtrousers>
yes
<customminer>
ok yes launch it
<apc>
launch!
* apc
makes rocket sounds
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
mrtrousers: you probably started your boinc client from the Gridcoin data dir, otherwise that gui_rpc_auth.conf file owuld not have been there
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: did you extract the snapshot?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
fear not, your boinc RAC gets downloaded from BOINC servers, so nothing is lost even if you delete your whole boinc
<mrtrousers>
Yes
<mrtrousers>
tahvok did you get the pastebin log?
<greo>
Erkan_Yilmaz: it says "Magnitude too low for POR reward".. however i've got my cpid showing in client ;)
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: yes, and I found the problem.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
greo: and what's your magnitude ?
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<greo>
0
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: as I said, you should manually extract download the snapshot. It doesn't work from the client
<mrtrousers>
Yes thats what im doing now..
<Tahvok>
download and extract*
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: don't start the client before you did this
<mrtrousers>
Also when upgrading it saids something happenint in the boot folder, which ubuntu didnt seem to like very much..
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
greo do you see your boinc credits on a stats page like boincstats ?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
greo let me check for you
<greo>
Erkan_Yilmaz, yes!
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: probably it tried to upgrade grub or something as well
<greo>
"Reward: 15 second(s)" :)))
<mrtrousers>
Well client started, it seems its starting from 0..
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
greo I don't see on boincstats your cpid it says: no hits
<mrtrousers>
HOpe so. So you can download the blockchain way faster this way..
<mrtrousers>
Why was so slow the other way?
<Tahvok>
customminer: I just realized, there is no even 'getting started' button on the site.. It took me a while to find the 'steps guide'
<mrtrousers>
I already did.
<apc>
I set my 290x to be held for pickup and that pushed the delivery back to tuesday :(
<mrtrousers>
ups sorry i was writing another thingie
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
greo OK, you are in team gridcoin
<apc>
instead of today :( :(
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
let me check on the boinc project for you
<greo>
Erkan_Yilmaz thanks!
<Tahvok>
customminer: I mean, I know it's one of the 'solo or pool mining' guides, but that requires to much read on the front page
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
greo your RAC for that 1 boinc project you have is <100
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
so it won't count in
<greo>
right!
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
you must have a RAC > 100
<customminer>
perhaps, users need to read into what option suits them best
<customminer>
problem is that users ignore tutorials
<greo>
Recent average credit RAC (according to SETI@Home)41.14082
<greo>
Recent average credit RAC (according to BOINCstats)9.85754
<greo>
wich one is more important ?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
the one on seti
<greo>
ok so i can reach 100 soon :)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
boincstats just reads from there
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
check: another happy Gridcoin user, since he knows why it doesn't work
<Tahvok>
customminer: yes, but that is not something we can change. Give them the client, and point to tutorials later. That's how it's done today
<mrtrousers>
tahvok so the problem in the gui is that when you push the button upgrade it doesent find the gridcoinupgrader?
<customminer>
Tahvok: Then users setup the client incorrectly.
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: yes, and it won't work, even should be disabled under linux
<greo>
yeah it's reacting too slow.. but we're still happy ;)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
greo check also with the magnitude command in your client if it shows same:
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!magnitude
<fediverse>
you can see your magnitude in many ways, e.g. type in the debug console > execute listexplainmagnitude
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: I will speak with caraka and ask him to disable on the ubuntu builds
<Tahvok>
customminer: is there a way to install the wallet incorectly?
<mrtrousers>
wait, wait..
<Tahvok>
customminer: the difference is weather you go solo or pool - the wallet is not affected by it in any way
<mrtrousers>
what does gridcoinupgrader do?
<customminer>
Tahvok: Potentially if they don't understand that they need a stake of GRC before earning GRC, so you would need to re-configure BOINC and the Gridcoin client after a bad first impression of the client.
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: upgrade the wallet under windows, or *custom* builds under linux
* Erkan_Yilmaz
throws a bomb at greo
<greo>
customminer like 500 + GRC?
<customminer>
greo: Like 25k to stake on a daily basis
<greo>
yep
<Tahvok>
customminer: getting a first stake is a problem of many cryptocurrencies, not only grc. None of them however tell you to read anything before getting a wallet - and that's for a reason
<greo>
otherwise you stake rarely ?
<mrtrousers>
tahvok then that button could just send the command you gave me before: apt-get update
<mrtrousers>
apt-get upgrade gridcoinresearch-qt
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: no, because the wallet is not ubuntu only. Making it multi distro would be a problem too, with not much gain.
<mrtrousers>
ok i see
<Tahvok>
Distro users know how to update their packages - and they should just continue doing so
<Tahvok>
The fact that you have the upgrade button is a mistake that should be fixed
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<customminer>
Tahvok: It's not like the download button is hidden from view, it's on the front page. What's a problem is that users see the gridcoin banner, think they don't need a stake, setup their boinc and gridcoin client as solo instead of pool then get pissed when they're informed at a later date that they misunderstood the gridcoin system because they never read
<customminer>
into how it worked.
<greo>
ok we need a bigger stake..
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
we need the select dialog (where the email is asked) at first install of gridcoin
<Tahvok>
customminer: The problem is that the wallet doesn't tell them that they need some grc for this to work
<Tahvok>
customminer: have you seen eth wallet? We may not like them, but we should take an example
<greo>
i thought i'll need like a 1k or something..
<customminer>
Tahvok: True, the wizard at the first launch should operate like a flow chart (got grc? go solo, got no grc? go pool, got grc but no boinc? go investor)
<customminer>
Tahvok: These are things I cannot change, but rather we need Rob or the new dev to change.
<mrtrousers>
So is not enough to stake one time? k in a daily basis? THat never work
<mrtrousers>
People wont go for it, i wont go for it.
<greo>
daily basis like 5 grc
<customminer>
mrtrousers: The frequency of staking is up to the end user, you can stake once per 6 months and still earn your rewards.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!staking
<fediverse>
Staking is the process of attempting to generate the next block in the blockchain. Your stake weight is a balance of your wallet balance (quantity of GRC) and your magnitude. See also: !pos and http://wiki.gridcoin.us/FAQ#Staking_.28Interest.29
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
should sound familiar to customminer ;-)
<customminer>
mrtrousers: Most users will not stick around for 6 months to stake though, so acquiring a sum of grc large enough to stake at the frequency you desire is your responsibility.
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<apc>
what is the amount staked? how is that determined? mine always changes. like right now it's only 4.blah grc
<apc>
dunno what it means
<customminer>
apc: The client looks for chunks of GRC in your wallet that have matured (remained in your posession & not previously staked for 16 hours), it uses found chunks of mature GRC to stake.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
apc: move you rmouse over the stake amount
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
there is a description popping up
<mrtrousers>
What does have more weight in mining pos or por?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
for normal people, probably por
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
for GRC whales, very likely pos
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!pos
<fediverse>
Proof-of-stake (PoS): your existing stake in a currency (the amount of that currency that you hold) is used to calculate the amount of that currency that you can mine. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-stake
<GRCB0T>
Title: Proof-of-stake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
<apc>
but what is the relevance of the amount staked, and how does it determine the amount?
<customminer>
If you have a large magnitude, your POR weight will regularly be high.
<customminer>
apc: 1.5% annual interest
<mrtrousers>
Ok. So with no researsh the max one can get is 1,5% on initial stake..
<mrtrousers>
And with research?
<apc>
erm I'm still missing something
<apc>
a big something
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
depends on your hardware, if you can beat your fellow Gridcoin friends in doing BOINC work
* Erkan_Yilmaz
gives a big large trout, but slaps him first
<mrtrousers>
Ok so it depends on processing power and initial stake. So if you want to maximize both, even having lots of processing power you got to stake regularly?
<Emptybeerbottle>
!balance
<GRCB0T>
please use '/msg GRCtip balance'. Use 'withdraw <yourGRCwalletaddress>' to withdraw your entire balance to your wallet for a fee of 0.02 GRC. Tipbot commands are !rain, !rainactive, and !tip.
<customminer>
mrtrousers: processing power has no influence on proof of stake
<mrtrousers>
but it does in por
<apc>
my wallet balance is 207, it's staking 4.3. where does it get the number 4.3 from?
<customminer>
indeed
<customminer>
apc: from matured coin balances
<apc>
almost all of the 207 is over 16hrs old
<mrtrousers>
The thing is this is to incentivize boinc, so por should have more weight than pos
<customminer>
mrtrousers: I disagree, the 3rd gen boinc credit system is vulnerable to manipulation, plus it's more expensive to pull off a 51% attack against pos.
<mrtrousers>
Im reading the documentation and nowhere explains in a simple way the por pos relation, function or whatever it is..
<customminer>
mrtrousers: network security > increased boinc user payout frequency
<customminer>
mrtrousers: documentation needs more work
<apc>
and I've seen it stake ~15-20 before. why the difference?
<customminer>
apc: the longer your client is staking for the more it will use to attempt to stake
<mrtrousers>
also after all por is pos in someway, as por requires hardware $ and electricity $
<customminer>
not really, por is like unverified pow
<mrtrousers>
is not verified by the peers, but someone got to check that research was done.
<apc>
what is the effect of the amount staked? I assume more is better - why?
<customminer>
It does require an investment in hardware/electricity though yes, but that doesn't justify increased stake weight. We rely on the BOINC project themselves to verify work completed. If projects are proven to be unreliable we can remove them from the whitelist.
<customminer>
apc: Greater amount staking increases your probability of staking the next block. Think of it like a raffle, the more tickets you're holding onto the more likely your number is called.
<mrtrousers>
Ok. So lets say you got 10 grc. WIth no research you can expect 1,5% yearly. That is 11,5 grc in one year time. ANd thats called an investor is that right?
<customminer>
yes, but 10 grc will have a minuscule chance of staking, considering there's 378 million GRC in existence
<customminer>
So that 1.5% interest may not be achieved by the individual attempting to stake 10 grc, even if continuously staking 24/7/365
<apc>
I think the word stake is what trips me up. I see it used as a noun and a verb
<mrtrousers>
YOu mean, that a year could pass and maybe you dont get the 1,5 grc, so you still have 10 grc?
<customminer>
mrtrousers: indeed
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<mrtrousers>
The more you stake more chances? 100? 1000? 10000?
<customminer>
mrtrousers: Indeed.
<greo>
nice ;)
<greo>
so it just happens
<mrtrousers>
Thats not very interesting for an investore. Specially thinking roi, roi 1,5 is not much but ok for very secure not risky investments, thats not the case.
<mrtrousers>
Also for a good chance of capturing this 1,5, intitial deposit got to be high.
<spassbold>
but if it were much higher, it also would not be good for being an investor
<spassbold>
say there is 100 roi
<spassbold>
so the amount of coins grows incredibly fast
<spassbold>
so everyone sells to make money
<spassbold>
so the price goes down
<mrtrousers>
THey depreciate and lose value.
<spassbold>
it's not like traditional roi in say stock trading
<spassbold>
you invest because you believe the price will increase in the future
<spassbold>
or because you really like the concept of gridcoin and want mroe people to do research
<spassbold>
but not because of the interest
<customminer>
mrtrousers: At the current moment it's not expensive to acquire a staking balance that would net you weekly stakes from now on.
<mrtrousers>
Ok, ok. After all is not only the interest, they might apreciate. Well it is exactly like currency trading, theres no difference.
<spassbold>
yes
<mrtrousers>
OK. Lets se another example. Researcher. Got processing power but only 1 grc.
<spassbold>
in that case he should use the pool
<customminer>
If they don't have a large quantity of GRC, they can use the pool.
<spassbold>
he does not need to stake himself then
<mrtrousers>
NO pool.
<mrtrousers>
Maybe instead of 1, say 10 grc.
<spassbold>
but that is exactly the reason why the pool was created
<mrtrousers>
Im just trying to work out the pos por function of grc
<customminer>
If you can afford to spend a couple hundred on an electricity bill each month, you can afford a few thousand gridcoin..
<spassbold>
then he will have to wait a very long time until he earns something
<spassbold>
but then it will be huge
<spassbold>
ok mrtrousers :)
<mrtrousers>
So.. He gets lots of por, contributing to boinc lots, but only has 1 grc stake 24/7, whats happening? what will he get? chances of mining/minting grc?
<mrtrousers>
AH ok spassbold.
<customminer>
low, his owed balance will increase over time which will give him a por stake weight bonus, but they'll be waiting a long time
<mrtrousers>
So if you have lots of por but barely no pos. It will take a lot of time to mint, but when you mint its lots of grc?
<customminer>
your rewards are tracked for 6 months, so if you only stake every 6 months you'll get your full reward.
<mrtrousers>
Ok. So por tells you how big the chunk will be and pos the frequency of getting it?
<customminer>
yes
<mrtrousers>
Im fully synced. :)
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: nice :)
<mrtrousers>
THanks to everyone that helped. :)
<mrtrousers>
SO now i have the wallet, doing no research cause boinc is not working yet.
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: you better go with the pool
<mrtrousers>
Am i an investor at this moment (very small one, lol)? am i staking something?
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<mrtrousers>
Can you have coins and not take them?
<apc>
I was encouraged to mine solo. I've earned 200grc in a week or so from PoR payments. are you saying it'd be better for me if I were in the pool, spassbold?
<mrtrousers>
I dont like the pool cause back then i mined btc, got satoshi, and after the years the pool has disapeared and the satoshi too.
<greo>
apc: do you mine wigh GPU ?
<customminer>
apc: if you're earning rewards on a weekly basis, stick with solo
<apc>
not presently. gpus are on ether
<apc>
I get por daily
<apc>
never gotten a pos
<apc>
!stats
<fediverse>
your next staked block will get you: 2 GRC (research owed)
<GRCB0T>
Title: GridCoin.co Pool (beta) (at pool.gridcoin.co)
<fediverse>
- it's easier for newcomers to get started, e.g. you get faster GRC this way (instead of longer waiting time for solo mining)
<fediverse>
- disadvantages: 5% fee; not every BOINC project addable; you don't get pool rain; your BOINC work is attributed to the pool, not under your name; you can't vote in Gridcoin polls
<GRCB0T>
Title: GridCoin.co Pool (beta) (at pool.gridcoin.co)
<customminer>
lol.. 7 lines of response..
<mrtrousers>
customminer you meant it increases in size as your balance does?
<customminer>
mrtrousers: It starts off with a small chunk of coins to stake with, and as you stake for a longer period of time it begins to use more of your balance to stake with.
<apc>
makes me wonder if I should move my wallet over to a linux box. the windows client crashes sometimes, so it resets
<apc>
the stake
<mrtrousers>
customminer just for having a wallet am i staking right now?
<mrtrousers>
Actually it says my stake is 0 at the moment?
<customminer>
yeah, type 'getstakinginfo' into the console to get more info on your staking
<customminer>
apc: When it crashes, you should report any debug logs to the devs to increase stability.
<mrtrousers>
command not found?
<apc>
who are the devs?
<mrtrousers>
sorry
<mrtrousers>
wallet console
<apc>
eric young?
<mrtrousers>
welll stake is set to true, i guess im staking. But it doesent say how much..
<apc>
oooh there's a diagnostics function. didn't notice that before. that would've been handy
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
I hope he gets caught when he misues univsity pcs or work pcs or data center hardware ;-)
<customminer>
could own a data center..
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
science has always brought men in danger, look at Galileo ;-)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
in my next life I will become a sysadmin ;-)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
at IBM ;-)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
or Intel
<customminer>
haha, we'll charge mumps with heresey!
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
or AMD
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
:-)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
not, if he swears to depart from his previous religion... aehm, I mean team, and join the only real religion... aehm, I mean: team gridcoin
<fkinglag0>
Beep
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
hi fkinglag0
<fediverse>
hi, may the 23 speculating GRC Gods smile at you today.
<fkinglag0>
Hi Erkan_Yilmaz
<customminer>
There is no one true religion.. i mean team!
<customminer>
:P
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
nah, nah, if you ask Rob, he only wants team Gridcoin to rule them all ;-)
<customminer>
yeah well hopefully that'll change in the future
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
yes
<customminer>
we've achieved #1 world team position already
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
yea, but now all other team members hate us and won't join Gridcoin ;-)
<customminer>
you say this, but scarcity of rewards never destroyed bitcoin
<customminer>
gridcoin is divisible to like 10 decimal places
<WhitesoxCrypto>
I have 0 connections since about 48 hours ago on my headless ubuntu server..
<WhitesoxCrypto>
added all missing nodes and I get this msg from the debug log...
<WhitesoxCrypto>
"No neural network nodes online"
<WhitesoxCrypto>
any ideas?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
he is banned ?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
his router is off ?
<fediverse>
hi, I want yet another coffee, how about cold coffee?
<WhitesoxCrypto>
"he"??
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
he didn't try restarting client/ os ?
* WhitesoxCrypto
passes fediverse a cold coffee...
* Erkan_Yilmaz
just repeats what the voices in my head dictate
<KatBot>
GridCoin.co: RPC Failed with status code 0
<KatBot>
Gridcoin Asia Block Explorer: 627805
<WhitesoxCrypto>
Erkan_Yilmaz: oh, good, then prolly no use.. ty anyway.. lol
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
he didn't try to ping the nodes yet in terminal ?
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<moisesm123>
customminer: ¨Kangaroo @kangaroocc Aug 4
<moisesm123>
@moisesmcardona Hi Moises, can you send us a direct message so we can assist? Thank you!¨ But @kangaroocc forgot to follow me so I can´t DM them... -_-
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
WhitesoxCrypto: no, just suggestions, if you made those
<moisesm123>
I replied to them
<customminer>
moisesm123: reply to them saying you've emailed them or something
<mrtrousers>
You said before your boinc work/progress is saved in the boinc server?
<customminer>
WhitesoxCrypto: running the latest version?
<moisesm123>
yes I replied to them as they forgot to follow me
<mrtrousers>
So por does get actualized and ingrained in the blockchain?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
look NeuralMiner 's nodes still missing above. cc Peppernrino
<customminer>
the neural network stores data for all team members on a daily basis - our nodes all agree on this data & the data is fetched directly from the BOINC servers.
<customminer>
BOINC project servers*
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
coughs at "daily basis"
<customminer>
aye, it can be up to every 36hrs
<WhitesoxCrypto>
customminer: has the wuprop voting finished??
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
:-)
<mrtrousers>
Ok so if boinc servers where to go off for a few days, the BLockchain would know what por everyona had as of yesterday?
<customminer>
WhitesoxCrypto: It's still going, but I think Rob removed wuprop.
<WhitesoxCrypto>
so better remove the project in our accounts then, no??
<WhitesoxCrypto>
and work on something else...
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
removed: yes, I though so too. because I don't see it in my mag
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
could we dethrone now Rob for acting too fast ? ;-)
<customminer>
mrtrousers: If one project died the client would react by removing the project after a while.
<customminer>
mrtrousers: But it would base rewards on past stored data.
<WhitesoxCrypto>
Erkan_Yilmaz: fyi, in case yo wanna add something more, all of my nodes respond to ping...
<mrtrousers>
So the blockchain has past stored data realted to boinc research? Without having to fetch it in boinc servers?
<customminer>
Erkan_Yilmaz: He did jump the gun a bit, we should set the precedent that we wait till polls end before acting. That said, it looks like it's being voted out.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
yes, in this case it's clear. I wonder why he didn't ban the guy first
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
WhitesoxCrypto: tried adding the nodes manually ?
<customminer>
Erkan_Yilmaz: You can't ban, but he could have kicked the guy from the our wuprop team.
<WhitesoxCrypto>
Erkan_Yilmaz: yeah, I added those that where not on my conf file...
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
WhitesoxCrypto: do you run a full node or just a normal one ?
<WhitesoxCrypto>
define full node...
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
if fn: you could try to add your own fn from another node
<mrtrousers>
Does the blockchain store past data for boinc research stats?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
just to see if you can connect or that also not working
* Erkan_Yilmaz
is tempted to say: the holy blockchain knows every little secret of the NSA. butthen he would mislead people
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
mrtrousers: I think only for past 6 months or so
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
WhitesoxCrypto: fn = incoming and outgoing connections, so normally you'd have >8 connections
<mrtrousers>
Ok thats more than enough as long as there is a backup in the blockchain.
<WhitesoxCrypto>
it's a crap node now Erkan_Yilmaz, I told you I have no connections...
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
but before, WhitesoxCrypto
<WhitesoxCrypto>
before should have been a fn
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
before the 0-conn.-anomaly hit you
<WhitesoxCrypto>
I guess..
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
so, I'd try connecting to your now-9-conn.-fn, from another Gridcoin wallet
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
might fix something, if you are sure it's not a problem on your environment side
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
9 <- 0
<mrtrousers>
Could gridcoin work with other computing networks a part from boinc?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
customminer can you set up more challenges on boincstats ? last one by team gridcoin is GPUGRID challenge
<AtomicSlug>
Ho
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<Mercosity>
Greetings and Salutations
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
hi Mercosity AtomicSlug
<fediverse>
hello, I need yet another coffee, would you join me with Ipoh white coffee?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
how is your Gridcoin experience going ?
<mrtrousers>
any help on instaling wxwidgets on ubuntu or error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
<mrtrousers>
?
<mrtrousers>
any help on instaling wxwidgets on ubuntu or libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so?
<mrtrousers>
BOINC asks for it...
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
isn't it a dependency of boinc? should be installed automatically
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
let me ask YOU now: how did you install your ubuntu ?
<Mercosity>
Hi, Erkan_yilmaz hows it going. Been off for a while, had to sleep sometime and household hores to do. Catch me up.
<mrtrousers>
Im installing from berkeley page, it seems less messy, and everything is neatly contained in a folder at home
<mrtrousers>
I onlye need the deps now..
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
Mercosity: someone might misunderstand the "hores" as a Freudian slip
<Mercosity>
No.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
mrtrousers: except you have dependency missing ;-)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
the boinc from apt is quite new, I'd stay with that one, instead of the berkeley direct DL
<Mercosity>
Honestly, missed the c but it looked funn so I left it.
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<Mercosity>
*y
<mrtrousers>
FOr me it doesnt work, and i dont know where the BOINC folder gets installed. Ive thried which and whereis
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
normally teh boinc folder would be /var/lib/boinc-client
<mrtrousers>
But there i dont see the same stuff i got in the BOINC folder, and anyway the gui crashes, i dont like the ubuntu package..
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
well, what I'd do now in your place i sthis:
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
1. install the boinc from apt
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
2. remove then boinc again, but let boinc's dependencies
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
3. run then your berkeley-boinc
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
if 1-3 doesn't work, then you have to search if your apt has the specific libwx version it needs. if not, you'd have to manually compile it
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
it being the source of libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so
<mrtrousers>
Yea i did all that.. I need libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so
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<Erkan_Yilmaz>
mrtrousers:
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
type: apt-cache search libwx
<mrtrousers>
tell me
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
probably as sudo
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
I don't see in the results neither version 2.x or html
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
thus, you must compile it
<mrtrousers>
Ok. Will the 3.0 not work?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!8ball Will the 3.0 not work?
<fediverse>
my sources say no
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<Erkan_Yilmaz>
there you have your answer, magic eightball knows everything
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<mrtrousers>
!8ball compile?
<fediverse>
concentrate and ask again
<mrtrousers>
!8ball compile?
<fediverse>
reply hazy, try again
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
mrtrousers: did you ever compile something yet under linux ?
<mrtrousers>
I have, following tutorials
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
ok, then it should not be difficult, just: ./configure make + make install
<mrtrousers>
Ive used ubuntu for years now on and off. But i learn things and then forget
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
but: you have to find the correct sources
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<mrtrousers>
ok cool, thanks
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
I hope your thanks doesn't indicate I now also do that task for you ?
<mrtrousers>
No ill keep trying, dont worry
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
ok :-)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
oh, wait
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
there might be another option
<mrtrousers>
Ok..
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
you could use the boincmgr from your apt with the boinc from berkeley
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
both are 7.x something, should be compatible for the basic stuff
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
or option 2:
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
just use boinc in terminal, and be happy
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
e.g. with boinctui
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<mrtrousers>
Im a kiddie, i like the gui
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
well, then you need to suffer
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
life is pain
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
pain is life
<mrtrousers>
ok, i go for a swim then finish this, thanks.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
search for boinctui, mrtrousers
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
you might change your opinion
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
look at pics of boinctui
<mrtrousers>
maybe. Ok
<mrtrousers>
It looks very good :)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
:-)
<vega40k>
<- love boinctui too
<customminer>
Erkan_Yilmaz: can do, got a prefered project?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
ofc, the ones I crunch ;-) but that wouldn't be fair
<customminer>
lol
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
at which projects is team gridcoin leading currently? those then
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
so, we make sure, we can beat Mumps :-(
<customminer>
lol
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<vega40k>
somebody talk with mumbs already?
<vega40k>
mumps
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<customminer>
not yet
<customminer>
erkan or neuralminer messaged him I think
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<Erkan_Yilmaz>
not me
<Jonbvn>
!rainactive 0.39999994 3
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Jonbvn rained 0.13333331 GRC on active users dt3105Chat, fkinglag0, moisesm123! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<fediverse>
Jonbvn all this rain fried my rig, but I liked it anyways
<vega40k>
how mumps doing this ? owner of atomic plant ?
<Peppernrino>
angels
<dt3105Chat>
Thanks
<vega40k>
!tip Peppernrino 0.3
<GRCtip>
Sorry vega40k, you don't have enough funds (you're 0.3 GRC short).
<vega40k>
sry
<fkinglag0>
Yay rain
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<vega40k>
Peppernrino: next
<moisesm123>
ty
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<Bouowmx>
!rainactive 2.0000002 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Bouowmx rained 0.20000002 GRC on active users YajuuSenpai, Peppernrino, greo, lestus, Jonbvn, Mercosity, fediverse, vega40k, ZaffTekk, moisesm123! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<fediverse>
Bouowmx all hail thy name
<coinictus>
rain
<moisesm123>
ty
<vega40k>
ty
<greo>
10x
<vega40k>
better 100x
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
merci Bouowmx :-)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
feel free to also tell somethings some days
<vega40k>
silent is golden
<vega40k>
look at me
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
hmm
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<fediverse>
customminer 38 mins standing ovations for you
<greo>
thanks!
<xms>
thx customminer
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
<- stands up and starts applauding for customminer
<vega40k>
ty custo
<customminer>
np :)
<Mercosity>
Tanks!
<AtomicSlug>
Thank you.
<fkinglag0>
Woo rain!
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<customminer>
going through massive threads looking for research age/DPOR related posts
<DalGond>
!balance
<GRCB0T>
please use '/msg GRCtip balance'. Use 'withdraw <yourGRCwalletaddress>' to withdraw your entire balance to your wallet for a fee of 0.02 GRC. Tipbot commands are !rain, !rainactive, and !tip.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
ideal task for Saturdays
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
with some coffee in hand
<greo>
:)
<greo>
personal record: 80 active connetions..
<customminer>
More like a G&T in hand ;D
<greo>
cheers!
<moisesm123>
ty
<moisesm123>
it is also raining here again XD
<moisesm123>
in real life
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<Gary760>
thx
<apc>
my 290x came :D :D :D
<mrtrousers>
BAM or GridRepublic?
<apc>
!rainactive 1.92
<GRCtip>
Sorry apc, your rain to active users (1.92 GRC) is too small (min. 0.1 GRC). Increase the amount or decrease max active users.
<apc>
!
<apc>
!rainactive 1.92 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! apc rained 0.192 GRC on active users coinictus, Bouowmx, AtomicSlug, vega40k, fkinglag0, YajuuSenpai, GRCB0T, xms, Erkan_Yilmaz, Mercosity! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<fediverse>
apc do you see the 13 happy tears you magically brought on our faces?
<apc>
w00p!
<AtomicSlug>
Ho!
<apc>
it vents to the outside tho. imma have to mod the cooler
<Mercosity>
TaNKS!
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<mrtrousers>
Who is boincstats?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
merci apc, thx for brining tears on fediverse's face :-)+
<mrtrousers>
I think i prefer Gridrepublic, at least they tell you who they are
<customminer>
lol gridrepublic..
<mrtrousers>
why?
<customminer>
idk, its just barely used
<apc>
I use gridrepublic
<apc>
bam screws up too much
<mrtrousers>
the thing with boincstats is i dont know who is behind it, theres no about us, no information at all
<customminer>
really? fair enough
<apc>
keeps turning projects on that I've detached
<greo>
!stats
<apc>
and I can't remove unused projects
<fediverse>
your next staked block will get you: 0 GRC (research owed)
<GRCB0T>
Title: acct_mgr_request.xml - Not valid XML · Issue #1470 · BOINC/boinc · GitHub (at github.com)
<jamezz>
BUT , the other day it fixed itself so i assume it was noticed
<customminer>
Be polite though.
<jamezz>
i thought this is the support/forum ....
<jamezz>
she goin be alive there?
<jamezz>
or just better chance of getting it fixed and bringing it to her attn?
<jamezz>
vs emailing her
<customminer>
it's not something katiee can fix, it's an issue with BOINC itself
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<caraka>
You're still assuming this is Katiee's problem. If you read that thread on boinc, you'll see that this is an ongoingissue that also appears randomly
<caraka>
so it probalby didn;t get noticed and fixed, it went away. temporarily
<xXUnRealXx>
!challenge
<fediverse>
our team Gridcoin and the WorldCommunityGrid challenge 'Compete against Gridcoin: WCG Monthly Race #001':
<caraka>
with a note that this is pos only. Por likely to lower time to stake
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
NetworkCoinSupply I have already, need to convert a little then
<caraka>
This will help us explain to newbies how balance effects staking time, and relieve anxiety
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!coins
<fediverse>
total Gridcoin coins created = 378.98 million
<customminer>
caraka: or increase it, lol :P
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
caraka customminer yes, good idea
<coinictus>
!cap
<caraka>
It's not knowing how to figure it out that makes noobs crazy, and we cannot answer it.
<caraka>
Now here's the tricky part Erkan_Yilmaz: if you have a 'private' flag on the command, fediverse sends the answer in a PM
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
not tricky, also easy doable :-)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
tricky is to reread into my own code ;-)
<caraka>
so that people don;t have to publish their balance in public
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
but I made a good customizable method there
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
right, caraka
<customminer>
Interesting thing to note - the ccedk expense isn't going to ccedk's pockets but is rather being distributed to ICOO holders (over 500 users), so we might get a boost in new users or trading volume.
<customminer>
Not occured yet, so keep quiet about it.
<customminer>
:P
<caraka>
shhh. I'm only telling IRC, so ti's a secret.
<customminer>
hahah
<customminer>
;D
<caraka>
this new command will also let us see how the timetostake drifts as coin supply increases
<caraka>
maybe put the formula timetostake=(1/(UserBalance/NetworkCoinSupply))/960 in the note too?
<mrtrousers>
..
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<caraka>
bye fediverse
<caraka>
fediverse 2.0 coming soon to a channel near you!
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
sure, I will do a !timetostake (which will be help/info) and !timetostake coins (for calc)
<caraka>
u da man!
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
tell me when it's done :-)
<caraka>
I think I'm done being a lazy bossy boots today
<caraka>
I wish programming was this easy - where I just spout an idea and some genius makes it so. :D
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<caraka>
You can hate me now Quezacoatl. My odroid synced properly
<Quezacoatl>
wooot?
<Quezacoatl>
what did you do?
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<caraka>
It took 2 reboots to get past two stuck areas, but otherwise I did nothing extraordinary
<Quezacoatl>
well reboots should not be necessary
<caraka>
I got stuck at ~602880 all night, then after that reboot got stuck again at ~627321 and had to reboot again. All is well and investor balance is abut to mature
<Quezacoatl>
but Ill try with both an RPI and the odroid right now
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<caraka>
I agree, but we see that neccessity even when it is not arm
<Quezacoatl>
correct
<caraka>
fuck me it takes a long time for the chain to load on odroid!
<Quezacoatl>
firing up odroid now :o
<caraka>
I used the ubuntu img you sent me to: ubuntu-1604-ordroid-armhf and the xenial daily PPA
<caraka>
and a bog standard conf file from the wiki
<caraka>
I am NOT boincing on the odroid, at least not yet
<spassbold>
hey all!
<caraka>
In fact, I meant to ask what a good non intensive project might be for the odroid to crunch, so I can migrate my crunch wallet there
<caraka>
howdy spassbold!
<Quezacoatl>
Well there are just a few BOINC projects supporting ARM
<apc>
all my androids are crunching pogs
<apc>
they seem happy with it
<caraka>
that's why I thought I would ask, having never researched any arm projects
<caraka>
pogs, eh?
<apc>
skynet
<apc>
yah
<caraka>
I want something that will not test the cpu and make the fan run any more than the wallet does...
<Quezacoatl>
haha you mean like wuprop?
<Mercosity>
I seldom do this as I'm normally accepting when it comes to technical glitches. I believe in GRC/BOINC and see it as essential to persuade more new persons to join and give to the sciences and inevitabilly humanity. However it worries me that the level of support for those in the pool, mostly newbies, is not sufficient. If this continues GRC's repu
<Mercosity>
tation will suffer and those who have joined or might in the future will then be lost to GRC forever. I've seen projects and companies die for less.
<caraka>
indeed, that will be ne of them until the thing gets killed
<Quezacoatl>
well I think the fan is running 1 or 0, nothing between
<caraka>
Yes Mercosity, and the pool was set up to address just that issue. So it is a threat if it is unsupported
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<slimeball>
Mercosity i figued mine , check pm ill walk you threw it
<slimeball>
this jamezz
<caraka>
yes Quez, the fan cycles between 1 and 0 as the wallet does things
<greo>
what does it mean when 0.00011 GRC are sent automatically from wallet? is this a beacon?
<caraka>
jamezz if you have a solution, get it into the wiki so everyone can benefit
<caraka>
greo either a beacon or a vote
<greo>
yes.. this time is beacon :)
<greo>
i remember when a voted..
<slimeball>
caraka , well it was based off the faq
<caraka>
that puts you into the neural network greo, and you are now official a gridcoiner!
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<greo>
now they were just sent
<greo>
yeah!
<greo>
i guess so :D
<caraka>
!timetostake 15,000
<slimeball>
have to add a solo project and edit it , update , then sync with pool.gridcoin.co
<fediverse>
error happened during !tts
<slimeball>
then remove it
* greo
happy hippie
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
yeah, the comma. one moment, need to handle it
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!timetostake 15000
<caraka>
fuck that is tiresome jamezz
<fediverse>
26.3185839583
<caraka>
!timetostak 15000
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
can someone cross-check if correct ?
<caraka>
that's too long. 10k - about 7 days
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
need tomake now pretty, if all ok
<apc>
!timetostake 999999999999999999999999
<fediverse>
3.94778759375e-19
<caraka>
but I will check properly :D
<apc>
:D
<spassbold>
slimeball: does this solve the pool xml error?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
well, I just added the formula
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
probably if wrong, then something with the 960 ?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
anyways, you cross-check please and I fix the error cases
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
thx, caraka
<caraka>
!coin
<GRCB0T>
heads
<fediverse>
total Gridcoin coins created = 378.98 million
<slimeball>
the fix is " Add a project from outside the pool like setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/ seti@home beta and edit your personal prefernces ( IE: i set max cpu to 99% ) then click update in Boinc , then sync pool.gridcoin.co almost done fixed 5 boxes.
<slimeball>
EDIT: shit just an out of pool project
<slimeball>
that fixed it even
<slimeball>
i didnt change settings
<spassbold>
ah yes katiee wrote it in the pool faq
<slimeball>
just added seti beta and it fixed it , removed it
<slimeball>
ha
<Dashaiva>
!stats
<spassbold>
that's it right or is there any difference?
<fediverse>
your next staked block will get you: 372 GRC (research owed)
<GRCB0T>
Title: acct_mgr_request.xml - Not valid XML · Issue #1470 · BOINC/boinc · GitHub (at github.com)
<jamezz>
i need to make a account for that other forum
<jamezz>
can someone please , i need to shower before i post and if people need the info
<jamezz>
thats the fix there
<spassbold>
thanks!
<jamezz>
thanks , ill post if someone has not copy and pasted on my account the info where others have asked in forums please... i dont use forums so i dont know where all
<spassbold>
I can crosspost it on the forum then
<jamezz>
you are welcome
<jamezz>
thanks , i assumed so and i had it open at my laptop still
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<jamezz>
its got to just be parsing the xml or something , being that it adds it to the end
<jamezz>
heh , i just got the error line 148 <venue> when i go to fix my linux boxes
<jamezz>
ha
<jamezz>
ima go manual
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<GRCB0T>
Title: Nerve tissue protein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
<apc>
:)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
I will let it now a little bit like that, and when no more ideas/comments, turn it into a PM msg
<jamezz>
spassbold , just figured it out for linux too , atleast with ssh/cli only and using cli and boinctui
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
cc caraka customminer ok ?
<jamezz>
its a little diff but pretty much the same
<caraka>
customminer: If you flip the formula, I find that the pos stakeweight of the network for my one week old wallet with 10k was approx 65M coins. Which implies that 310M coins weren't staking?
<spassbold>
can you also post this on github?
<caraka>
that's beautiful Erkan_Yilmaz. Now we're trying to get the formula more realistic and less theoretical!
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
great :-)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!timetostake
<fediverse>
This command '!timetostake <coins>' returns the EstimatedDaysUntilStake, which is: (1/(UserBalance/NetworkCoinSupply))/960
<fediverse>
note: 1. this is PoS only, PoR is likely lower time to stake
<fediverse>
2. <coins> must be without decimal, only integer
<fediverse>
example for 15k GRC you have: !timetostake 15000
<Phay>
thx apc
<customminer>
spassbold: Post what, the pos:por stake weight balance?
<Phay>
32C in my room
<Mercosity>
I seldom do this as I'm normally accepting when it comes to technical glitches. I believe in GRC/BOINC and see it as essential to persuade more new persons to join and give to the sciences and inevitabilly humanity. However it worries me that the level of support for those in the pool, mostly newbies, is not sufficient. If this continues GRC's repu
<Mercosity>
tation will suffer and those who have joined or might in the future will then be lost to GRC forever. I've seen projects and companies die for less.
<Phay>
^
<Phay>
tho it's annoying/sad because I know why this is the case
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
hi coinictus, you typed above !cap <- what would you expect as return ?
<Phay>
and understand it
<fediverse>
hi
<spassbold>
no i meant jamezz proposal to solve the xml problem for the pool also on linux
<Phay>
you know. Caraka. Everything is your fault
<jamezz>
1 more to fix
<spassbold>
Mercosity : do you mean the xml problem ?
<jamezz>
but it worked soooo :P
<spassbold>
jamezz great :)
<caraka>
Phay, I accept complete responsibility for the world I inhabit
<spassbold>
would be cool if you can also post it to github then
<GRCB0T>
Title: Linux guide - Gridcoin (at wiki.gridcoin.us)
<Phay>
spassbold
<Phay>
I think he's talking less about himself and more about the current "condition" or situation
<spassbold>
k
<spassbold>
and i think he's right also
<spassbold>
but there is not too much we can do about it right now
<Mercosity>
Jamezz - Your fix worked but only if you use a solo project! If you use a pool project it won't work! I think this means it's the link between Gridcoin pool and BOINC that's at fault otherwise the pool option would work. Had to do it on 8 machines.
<Phay>
yeah :\ but I think basically everyone knows and respects why
<Quezacoatl>
caraka thanks, will do the same
<customminer>
spassbold: The xml problem requires a replacement of the xml library/engine in the boinc application (according to david anderson)
<spassbold>
will this happen?
<Phay>
BOLDspace
<customminer>
spassbold: so yeah, huge rework required to solve the issue - continued pressure would maybe bring it to BOINC devs attention, but BOINC lost funding last year.
<Phay>
spacebold
<apc>
I love coroplast. wonderful material
<Phay>
CorpsePaste
<customminer>
perhaps we could create a fork of https://peer4commit.com for gridcoin to fund development in areas we favour, but in the mean time it will likely go unsolved unless more people speak up on github about it (be nice though, don't spam/attack).
<GRCB0T>
Title: Peer4commit (at peer4commit.com)
<customminer>
Mercosity: Is the issue you're experiencing the account manager xml error?
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<Mercosity>
customminer: yes it was and now thanks to jamezz it's fixed. But my rant still stands!
<jamezz>
ive got it all back @ pool no xml error
<jamezz>
i removed the solo project
<jamezz>
im just having issues on my 1 last linux box
<spassbold>
jamezz is on a roll solving all problems like a madman
<Sander96>
Is GRCB0T completely useless or completely useless?
<Sander96>
!8ball The thing above
<fediverse>
yes
<Sander96>
I agree
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
:-)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!tts 1000
<fediverse>
with 1000 GRC you need 394.778759375 days until you stake/make a !PoS block. (to theoretically guarantee daily staking, you need 394778.759375 GRC)
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<tr0nic>
wow nice command Erkan_Yilmaz
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
you have to thank caraka and customminer
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
I only did the coding part
<customminer>
that's where most of the work lay though, credit to Erkan_Yilmaz !
<customminer>
!tip Erkan_Yilmaz 25
<customminer>
woo
<GRCtip>
customminer tipped Erkan_Yilmaz 25 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<tr0nic>
oh sorry THX caraka and customminer supernice :)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
thx. most of the times the most time in coding goes for treating error cases and such
<tr0nic>
!tip caraka 100
<GRCtip>
tr0nic tipped caraka 100 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<tr0nic>
!tip customminer 100
<GRCtip>
tr0nic tipped customminer 100 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<tr0nic>
!tip Erkan_Yilmaz 100
<GRCtip>
Sorry tr0nic, you don't have enough funds (you're 58.03292123 GRC short).
<tr0nic>
!tip Erkan_Yilmaz 58.03292123
<GRCtip>
Sorry tr0nic, you don't have enough funds (you're 16.06584246 GRC short).
<tr0nic>
!tip Erkan_Yilmaz 16
<GRCtip>
tr0nic tipped Erkan_Yilmaz 16 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
but I think we should add to the !tts command some more info, otherwise all newbies get scraed and leave, because they don't know what !pos is yet
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
merci tr0nic :-)
<customminer>
:D
<tr0nic>
biddeschön :) big thx for DEVs!!!
<fkinglag0>
Haha nice
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
I could as intro: in teh very very worst case scenario...
<MrControll>
O.o
<tr0nic>
lol
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
or at end: keep in mind, this is about !pos, with !por you will be staking faster
<tr0nic>
!tip Erkan_Yilmaz 25.9670787
<GRCtip>
tr0nic tipped Erkan_Yilmaz 25.9670787 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
(and hopefully they will know to execute commands: !por and !pos
* Erkan_Yilmaz
hugs tr0nic
* Erkan_Yilmaz
decides for the outro
<tr0nic>
allright i'm doing a little PoR ATM
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
yay
<tr0nic>
is there a realtion to PoS with higher PoR aswell?
<tr0nic>
relation
<tr0nic>
!pos
<fediverse>
Proof-of-stake (PoS): your existing stake in a currency (the amount of that currency that you hold) is used to calculate the amount of that currency that you can mine. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-stake
<GRCB0T>
Title: Proof-of-stake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
<fediverse>
with 50000 GRC you need 7.8955751875 days until you stake/make a !PoS block. (to theoretically guarantee daily staking, you need 394778.759375 GRC)
<tr0nic>
allright so that would be now around 3,9 BTC of GRC
<GRCB0T>
Title: DDL-Warez // Startseite // Kinofilme und Serien zum gratis Download (at ddl-warez.to)
<Peppernrino>
i found the link to the google doc, so i'm way behind you already
<Quezacoatl>
yes it would be
<customminer>
lol
<tr0nic>
but no torrents
<Peppernrino>
ty tronic
<tr0nic>
welcome
<customminer>
Quezacoatl: My forum trawling yielded the fact that newbie stake weight is enabled.. lol
<customminer>
that's pretty much it haha
<Quezacoatl>
Yes it is I can see that on a new CPID
<customminer>
doesn't help that the history page for users posts doesn't go back past Aug 2015, we've got from Dec 2014 to Aug 2015 where the explanation may have been posted.
<Quezacoatl>
Ill try finding it in the code, but not tonight
<Quezacoatl>
remember me tomorrow ;)
<customminer>
kl
<Quezacoatl>
aaaaaaaaaahhh I did everything like caraka described but I am not able to sync past block 602412 on my odroid -.-
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<Quezacoatl>
3 reboots and not a single block passed