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projectgus >
RaYmAn: wow, that looks complex
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projectgus >
be interesting to see how the OS support holds up
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projectgus >
he only heterogenous processor support in linux i've ever heard of was an academic experiment
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projectgus >
although it looks like the hardware support for caching will be sound
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RaYmAn >
afaik initially it only supports either-or mode
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RaYmAn >
e.g. either a15 or a7
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projectgus >
i wonder how much RAM the board will have and how much it will cost
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projectgus >
RaYmAn: ah, so you boot into one or the other. That makes sense at least initially.
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RaYmAn >
basically, you can switch over all processes to the other cpu set
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projectgus >
i guess that gives you a lot of the benefits without a lot of the complex scheduling and cache issues
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projectgus >
well, with less of the complex issues :)
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RaYmAn >
in a dev board like this, it might actually make sense to run all 8 cores at once though - if nothing else, then use the a7 cores to offload specific tasks
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RaYmAn >
in phones or tablets with this chipset, it makes very little sense ;)
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projectgus >
yeah, well in a dev board it doesn't make much sense to bother with it at all. but obviously Samsung aren't developing for that :)
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RaYmAn >
the previous arndale is 249$, so hopefully it'll be lose to that price
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projectgus >
i suppose it makes less sense to have all 8 on for power at all, if the A15s have 3.5DMIPS/MHz, the A7s are 1.9DMIPS/MHz
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projectgus >
and the A15s will probably be clocked higher
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projectgus >
plus memory bandwidth & cache contention
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generally on big.LITTLE architecture A7 has lower frequency than a15, you are right
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popolon >
(see #implementations)
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RaYmAn >
I regret not backing that one, heh. If they had been more clear on what you were actually getting, I would have.
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RaYmAn >
(the actual board is imo much better than the premise they sold it on =P)
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L84Supper >
xilinx hasn't posted official pricing yet for the zynq
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L84Supper >
yeah, they needed a bit of marketing help
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Undertasker >
Atmel is selling combinations of ARM processors and FPGA's since many years, but with little success
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RaYmAn >
Undertasker: well, the fpga actually has a function in parallela =P but yeah, it can't have that many uses, other than a fun devboard
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Undertasker >
Atmel even released tools for sw/hw co-simulation, but nobody seems to be interested
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RaYmAn >
zedboard is fairly expensive though, isn't it?
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L84Supper >
~$300 IIRC
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Undertasker >
As you said, a fun devboard
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Undertasker >
Never saw anything like this in an actual product
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RaYmAn >
compared to paralella at 99$ (ok, probably a bit more once it starts selling)
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Undertasker >
Too many toys on the market.
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RaYmAn >
There can never be too many toys :D
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Undertasker >
What would you use it for? Bitcoin mining?
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RaYmAn >
since when does having an actual usage for something become a requirement for toys? :D
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Undertasker >
Maybe interesting for video processing
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Undertasker >
99$ isn't much for an fpga board
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RaYmAn >
especially one with a 16-core co-processor
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Undertasker >
I could do my own weather simulation with that
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Undertasker >
Does it come with a holodeck?
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RaYmAn >
I don't think they've shipped any yet, so it might! :P
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Undertasker >
Remarkably, that it doesn't have an Arduino compatible header
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Undertasker >
Everybody seems to think that he must be compatible with Arduino shields lately
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RaYmAn >
it makes sense in some classes of products
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* lejonet
is getting a parallella
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lejonet >
and I concur with RaYmAn, when did a realistic/actual usage scenario become a requirement for toys? xD
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hp__ >
320x240 lcd with touch
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specing >
How much is 18 yen?
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rm >
18 Chinese Yuan equals 2.92 US Dollar
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rm >
but nothing to "try" you can just go and buy
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rm >
2x more expensive, but includes shipping
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lkcl >
WOO! samples arrived!
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lkcl >
woo! it powers up!
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lkcl >
now to try adding a USB hub
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projectgus >
popolon: ah, thanks. i hadn't realised it was an ARM concept
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buZz >
someone want a load of free i2c chips?
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