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<slapin_nb> hi, all! anybody knows some cheap ethernet phy for single-mode fiber?
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<PoWeRKiLL> hi cnxsoft are you there ?
<cnxsoft> yes
<PoWeRKiLL> can you help me with compiling a firmware for tcc8925 device
<PoWeRKiLL> I have a this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36982255 I manage to follow your tutorial for compiling a zImage of Linux 3.0.8
<PoWeRKiLL> now I wish to create a true linux image
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<projectgus> PoWeRKiLL: what do you mean by a true linux image?
<PoWeRKiLL> yes
<PoWeRKiLL> it's should be possible no ?
<PoWeRKiLL> like the xbmc linux of pivos
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<projectgus> oh, i see, you mean gnu/linux as opposed to android
<projectgus> should certainly be possible, I'm afraid I don't know anything about tcc8925 though - sorry
<PoWeRKiLL> projectgus do you know how to create a firmware image based on the zImage already created ?
<PoWeRKiLL> cnxsoft may be you can help ?
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<projectgus> PoWeRKiLL: the zimage is just the kernel, the thing you need is usually called a 'rootfs' - it's a filesystem that you point the kernel to when it runs
<projectgus> exactly how to do this so it works on a tcc8925, i do not know, sorry
<lkcl> i believe they do a digital signature / checksum on the sdcard so that'll need to be removed.
<SPG> KaTeFoDo master 7464127 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/S3R1P.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=7464127
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<focus> lkcl: what is your official position on someone like me making a few of your boards as samples through my CN partner company? I need the gerbers and BoM. I can fund 10 pieces max.
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<cnxsoft> PoWeRKiLL: I've never gone as far as trying a rootfs
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<PoWeRKiLL> cnxsoft sorry got disconnected you read my question ?
<cnxsoft> PoWeRKiLL: I've never gone as far as trying a rootfs
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<PoWeRKiLL> how to make a rootfs once I got the zImage ?
<rz2k> also you need bootloader
<rz2k> configured and working, which can boot your kernel image
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<PoWeRKiLL> rz2k will try right now
<PoWeRKiLL> lkcl I follow http://lkcl.net/reports/odroid-u2.html now I'm running debian inside Android
<PoWeRKiLL> running uname -a give me Linux localhost 3.0.8-tcc #364 PREEMPT Fri Nov 16 20:51:49 CST 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux
<PoWeRKiLL> but apt-get update give nothing cause source.list is empty with source do I have to add ?
<PoWeRKiLL> I add squeeze source
<lkcl> PoWeRKiLL: :)
<lkcl> yes.
<lkcl> /etc/apt/sources.list
<PoWeRKiLL> lklc your tut rocks
<PoWeRKiLL> I'm compiling the kernel on the stick :D
<lkcl> i just copied other peoples!!
<PoWeRKiLL> hope it will work till the end
<PoWeRKiLL> what I don't understand if I'm already under Linux localhost 3.0.8-tcc #364 PREEMPT Fri Nov 16 20:51:49 CST 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux
<PoWeRKiLL> why don't use this kernel it's seems already here somewhere no ?
<lkcl> i have this in the /etc/apt/sources.list
<lkcl> deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
<lkcl> deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
<lkcl> that's all
<lkcl> yes - you could. it's pretty recent.
<PoWeRKiLL> how ?
<lkcl> the only thing is: if it's compiled for android it will have all sorts of weirdness in it.
<lkcl> "security" such as stopping users from gaining access to network unless they are in group 3003
<lkcl> or something weird like that, you'll have to look it up
<PoWeRKiLL> ok I understand so better recompile it
<lkcl> yes... *if* it doesn't need digital signatures etc. etc.
<lkcl> but, now you are on the box, look up some debian commands for accessing the NAND flash
<lkcl> directly
<lkcl> or just use dd or hexdump etc. etc. etc.
<PoWeRKiLL> I think that this is the right kernel to use apt-get build-essential git ncurses-dev
<PoWeRKiLL> sorry bad copy paste
<lkcl> those are the commands you'll need to do the compiling
<lkcl> oo!
<lkcl> good stuff!
<focus> lkcl: what is your official position on someone like me making a few of your boards as samples through my CN partner company? I need the gerbers and BoM. I can fund 10 pieces max. If too difficult to answer now, just say too difficult to answer now.
<PoWeRKiLL> lkcl you are a board maker ?
<lkcl> focus: let me think and talk with my partners. the next main thing to do is to get an online "store" set up somewhere
<lkcl> PoWeRKiLL: i can do 98% of PCB design stuff
<focus> lkcl: ok thanks, I respect that.
<PoWeRKiLL> wow
<lkcl> focus: so we can get a little more than 10 units :) i think a safe first run would be around 100
<lkcl> PoWeRKiLL: it's mostly cut/paste of other peoples' stuff :)
<PoWeRKiLL> lkcl what board do you advise I'm looking for a good setopox that can read HLS stream
<lkcl> PoWeRKiLL: i apply the same software-engineering skills to using PCB layout software :)
<lkcl> PoWeRKiLL: what's HLS?
<lkcl> ok HTTP live streaming
<PoWeRKiLL> HLS is a streaming format from apple H264 video + AAC Audio
<focus> lkcl: 10 units first, then 100 units, then 1000. The first 10 units are produced with everyone in production line present and then after verification, some 2 to 3 days to a week later, the 100 are made
<PoWeRKiLL> yes exactly
<lkcl> well, that's applications-level, and i'm not so hot on that kind of thing
<lkcl> focus: well, we've got 5 going, so we're onto the next phase
<focus> lkcl: is that with entire production staff present - or just one or two engineers dabling
<focus> lkcl: not to worry I thought 5 is OK! :)
<PoWeRKiLL> What kind of board do you produce ?
<lkcl> PoWeRKiLL: *deep breath*.... :)
<PoWeRKiLL> :)
<lkcl> start from the links here:
<lkcl> and i'm also working on a new standard, http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-200
<lkcl> focus: from what i understand, that's 5 PCBs auto-populated with SMT machinery
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<focus> lkcl: that be perfect - they went through the entire procedure.
<lkcl> :)
<PoWeRKiLL> I'm talking with electronics genius :D
<lkcl> hack-it more like ha ha
<focus> lkcl: we were all hacking it when we started out :)
<focus> I got so interested I did a degree
<lkcl> PoWeRKiLL: don't be fooled. there are people out there who've achieved more than i have!
<lkcl> focus: cool. intriguing.
<focus> MIT do online electronics degree free
<PoWeRKiLL> Cloning into telechips-linux...
<PoWeRKiLL> remote: Counting objects: 40010, done.
<PoWeRKiLL> Receiving objects: 2% (872/40010), 2.00 MiB | 16 KiB/s
<PoWeRKiLL> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (36096/36096), done.
<PoWeRKiLL> too slow :(
<PoWeRKiLL> lklc if I already cross compiled it on my ubuntu thanks to this tuts http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07/18/building-linux-kernel-3-0-8-for-telechips-tcc8925-mini-pcs-cx-01-z900-tizzbird-n1/ I can copy directly the file right ?
<PoWeRKiLL> lklc i got this FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.0.8/modules.dep: No such file or directory when runing the mkinitramfs :(
<PoWeRKiLL> lklc do I have to use that wget http://www.mdrjr.net/odroid/mirror/BSPs/Alpha4/unpacked/boot.tar.gz ?
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<lkcl> PoWeRKiLL: use git clone --depth=1
<lkcl> PoWeRKiLL: NO. don't use that - it's custom-designed for the exynos 4412. DO NOT use it on a different system!!
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<Turl> free server colocation :P
<SPG> Romain master 2c4a604 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/rbazileubiant.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c4a604
<SPG> Ryan master b321bd7 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/rmull.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=b321bd7
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<SPG> lkcl master c29181a rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/ (18 files in 2 dirs) * order processing cleanup * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=c29181a
<SPG> lkcl master 4d5d79c rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/rbazileubiant.mdwn * order processing cleanup * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d5d79c
<SPG> lkcl master 31184f2 rhombus allwinner_a10/ (42 files in 3 dirs) * order processing * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=31184f2
<SPG> lkcl master 185d599 rhombus allwinner_a10/ (20 files in 3 dirs) * order processing cleanup * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=185d599
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<sky770> Erm.. hello peeps! :
<sky770> :D
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<SPG> lkcl master e51010f rhombus allwinner_a10/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * split into separate preorders * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=e51010f
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<SPG> lkcl master 4c0d9c9 rhombus allwinner_a10/order_processing.py * order processing for 1stbatch * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c0d9c9
<SPG> lkcl master 36f367d rhombus allwinner_a10/order_processing.py * add 1stbatch command * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=36f367d
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<SPG> http://wookey.livejournal.com/ master ffda103 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/wookey.mdwn * sign up for 1st batch * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=ffda103
<SPG> christopherfiremothindustriescom master 0566651 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/Keebler.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=0566651
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<SPG> lkcl master a1a49ca rhombus allwinner_a10/order_processing.py * include 1stbatch in search * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1a49ca
<SPG> lkcl master 4edc753 rhombus allwinner_a10/ (19 files in 3 dirs) * not valid email addresses * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=4edc753
<SPG> lkcl master 74cfdce rhombus allwinner_a10/ order_processing.py orders/all78pat.mdwn orders/all78pat3.mdwn orders/lkcl.mdwn * include 1stbatch * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=74cfdce
<SPG> lkcl master 94353f8 rhombus * Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=94353f8
<SPG> GREGORY_N master 5b5ac97 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/GregTemple.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b5ac97
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<lkcl> could people please help me to track down the VIA OPenbook Creative Commons CAD/CAM files?
<SPG> Antoine master a1f19a1 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/conorta.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1f19a1
<L84Supper> VIA OPenbook Creative Commons CAD/CAM files IIRC were only STL's , no source or even parasolids that you could easily modify
<L84Supper> they were created in Pro/ENGINEER TM Wildfire 2.0
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<L84Supper> you're better off finding someone with tooling for a current enclosure and just making some mods
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<SPG> iain master 84a6d90 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/iain.mdwn * 1stbatch! * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=84a6d90
<SPG> martin master 68f431c rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/vgrade.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=68f431c
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<lkcl> L84Supper: ahh ok. hmmm
<lkcl> L84Supper: yehhh, i was hoping to make something that made more sense profile-wise - the kind of thickness of a toshiba ac100 (which is mostly full of air!!)
<lkcl> i don't know if you recall the beautiful-looking CT-PC89e, it was hilarious: there was hardly anything in it, and it was so light that if you opened it up it fell over backwards!
<lkcl> the battery was 2000mAh yet lasted 2 hours+, yet because it was only 150 grammes it wasn't a big enough counterweight to stop the thing falling over!
<lkcl> a beautiful 650 gramme laptop that needed an extra 100 gram lump of metal at the front. talk about irony
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<lkcl> anyway: if the VIA CC CAD/CAM files aren't useful then i'll stop looking for them... hmm... or maybe not. i've used programs to re-create 3D files that are alterable by using overlays. you use the STL file as a "ghost".
<lkcl> i'll think about it :)
<lkcl> see what happens
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<L84Supper> the openbook website is gone
<L84Supper> they are native Pro/ENGINEER TM Wildfire 2.0 files
<SPG> lkcl master 9639ce2 rhombus allwinner_a10/order_processing.py * order processing add batch confirmation * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=9639ce2
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<SPG> Eric master 72d4ee7 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/831.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=72d4ee7
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