#arm-netbook on 2013-04-01 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2013-02-27 01:11 lkcl changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: arm-netbook: Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - EOMA68 spec http://bit.ly/ZHqfxA - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://bit.ly/XELKJq or http://bit.ly/15OCYPD - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 Card http://bit.ly/XAUGCD - Flying Squirrel http://bit.ly/WgOYaR - Allwinner A10/A20 Card http://bit.ly/zBLAbY - http://rhombus-tech.net

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09:19 <SPG> Haakon master 09f0284 rhombus freescale/iMX6/orders/hste.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=09f0284

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10:50 <slapin_nb> hi, all! can I trace BGA 0.8 pitch with trace/clearance 6 mil, drill 12 mil? or should I look for more expensive manufacture?

10:50 <slapin_nb> lkcl: ^

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11:00 <gimbo> hi!

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13:41 <SPG> lkcl master 10ae68f rhombus allwinner/a31.mdwn allwinner/news.html allwinner/orders.mdwn templates/a31preorder.mdwn * add a31 * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=10ae68f

13:41 <SPG> lkcl master 0d78291 rhombus * Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d78291

13:48 <SPG> lkcl master b07e781 rhombus allwinner/a31.mdwn * correct link * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=b07e781

13:49 <SPG> lkcl master cb597e8 rhombus allwinner/ a31/news.html a31/orders.mdwn news.html orders.mdwn * correct link * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb597e8

13:50 <SPG> lkcl master 84765a3 rhombus allwinner/a31/orders/lkcl.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=84765a3

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15:18 <SPG> lkcl master 9571865 rhombus allwinner/ a31.mdwn a31/orders.mdwn * corrections from allwinner, a31 uses sgx544mp2 * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=9571865

15:18 <SPG> lkcl master 69b8aff rhombus * Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=69b8aff

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16:27 <lkcl> slapin: it's *just* about doable... 12mil... no, go for 10mil. however if you manage to get that on a 6-layer PCB i will fall off my chair backwards

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17:52 <SPG> martin master 3522559 rhombus allwinner/a31/orders/vgrade.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=3522559

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21:20 <slapin> lkcl: that's DDR3, why? people do 4-layer designs for it

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23:34 <lkcl> slapin: true. i imagine it's different if you have oodles of board space, on which to bring out the pins. if you have only say 4mm to the edge of the PCB like i have for a couple of the EOMA68 cards i'd imagine it's a different story, eh? :)

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23:50 <slapin> lkcl: actually the problem is that to fit 6mil traces you need to make pads 0.35 mm or smaller, and can fit only once, not counting you need to maintain wire sizes and differential pairs, it looks like puzzle, and the eerie feeling of sadistic evil genius laughing somewhere...

23:51 <slapin> 5 mil traces are a bit easier but much more expensive, 4.5 mil traces are even more easy as you can put 2 per diagonal, if you can reduce clearance requirements...