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<libv> the speed of the odroid-x2 is astounding, but there are way too many issues with this thing to be able to recommend it to anyone
<rz2k> run linpack on it
<rz2k> and compare with a10
<rz2k> is there something wrong with linpack?
<rz2k> because it will show 440k
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<pabloGNU> Hi, i have a hackberry and i'mt trying to use the IR onboard to caught a remote signal but i can't get lirc working
<pabloGNU> any one try to use this?
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<pabloGNU> nobody?
<mnemoc> pabloGNU: take a look at http://linux-sunxi.org/Category:IR. and http://linux-sunxi.org/IR might be a good start
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<pabloGNU> oks
<pabloGNU> mnemoc this webs don't help
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<Turl> pabloGNU: I moved the repo
<pabloGNU> Turl
<pabloGNU> ok, but you get working the ir in the hackberry?
<Turl> I used it on a mele, but it should be the same
<pabloGNU> and how you did it?
<pabloGNU> and nothing happends
<Turl> pabloGNU: see http://linux-sunxi.org/IR
<Turl> I just fixed the repo URL
<mnemoc> that LIRC page really needs to be renamed
<Turl> mnemoc: go and read the history ;)
<pabloGNU> Turl the keybinder works
<Turl> pabloGNU: great then :)
<pabloGNU> and now what i have to do with this?
<pabloGNU> because i want to use lira for xbmc
<Turl> pabloGNU: keybinder is just a program to run a command when you press a button on the remote
<pabloGNU> i see...
<pabloGNU> Turl did you have your hardware.conf of the melee?
<Turl> what's hardware.conf?
<pabloGNU> Turl /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
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<Turl> pabloGNU: I didn't use lirc on it
<pabloGNU> oks
<pabloGNU> thanks
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<traeak> i know this is sort spam here, but this is a steal of a deal on a lenovo x131e: http://tinyurl.com/c8la9yu
<traeak> that's an ivy bridge based cpu, non HT
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<jelly-home> hmph, they disabled aes-ni on it
<jelly-home> (saves cpu with an encrypted disk)
<traeak> aesni for ?
<jelly-home> traeak: there's only one possible thing "for" -- it's a cpu instruction set extension. btw. an X131e (with a i3-3210 tho) went for $800 here in .hr so $350 is more than half
<traeak> 350 is less than half :-p
<xenoxaos> but this has a celeron
<traeak> looks like the 3210 benches 2x faster than the 1007 ilkely
<specing> only i5, i7 and Xeon cpus have AES-NI
<specing> the linked thingie has a celeron at 1.5 GHz
<specing> I estimate max 80 MB/s AES
<jelly-home> specing: it's a shame intels treat it as an enterprise feature
<specing> Yes
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<specing> the $50 AMD APU does 2GB/s AES due to it
<specing> But sadly I am locked to buying Intel's i5
<traeak> required encryption then ?
<specing> because all other graphics are too much of a hassle to be worth the $100 price difference
<jelly-home> specing: 80MB/s? my old i3-540 did 250MB/s on one core... this might be labeled celeron but is 2.5 generations newer and has the same amount of cache
<specing> traeak: I always encrypt my HDDs
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<traeak> just looking at cursory benchies the 1007 is about like the old i3 2367m
<jelly-home> then I found a dude selling i5-660 for cheaps. :-)
<traeak> minus HT
<specing> jelly-home: Intel handicaps its chips more than you might believe
<traeak> intel seriously doesn't seem to have any competition anymore
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<specing> traeak: :( yes
<traeak> i mean the price on the 3730k has only gone up since its release
<traeak> i bought one the same month they came out
<traeak> for a work demo machine
<traeak> microatx setup
<specing> And it successfully locked a good portion of the Linux community in because it is the only graphics vendor that supports open source graphics
<traeak> one of my partners ferries to customer sites for demos
<jelly-home> oh, they still do in some segments; eg. amd have ECC support on most (all?) cpus so there are cheap dedicated servers with amds inside
<traeak> that easily outruns the dual core i7 xeons we have at work here
<traeak> jelly-home: true for some workloads, for pure cpu crunching though...
<traeak> actually letme ask
<jelly-home> specing: I've been using video-intel 2005-2010, over 2-3 different chipsets. Bought a nvidia in 2010. It's effin more stable and less buggy, with a blob driver
<specing> AMD have good bang for the buck offerings all around
<specing> jelly-home: Yes, with the blob
<jelly-home> it's sad
<traeak> intel video has seem some recent boosts
<specing> but the blob means I have to relink the module every time I upgrade the kernel
<traeak> i'm well pleased with how the x130e with hd3000 works
<jelly-home> I don't want boosts. I want a no regressions policy
<specing> which means typing in a 80x24 terminal
<traeak> much better than the nvidia in my demo laptop
<jelly-home> specing: dkms does that automatically on any sane distro
<specing> + external graphics take space and are usually more power hungry
<specing> I don't need much graphics power for running terminals on a 1920x1200 LCD
<traeak> but i have to admit my main dev workstation has nvidia in it
<specing> Im probably going to buy an i5-3330 with HD 2500
<traeak> amd stuff isnt' day to day stable enough
<specing> AMD's video decoder API is virtually nonexistend
<specing> even on fglrx
<traeak> does the armv8 instruction set have aes stuff on it?
<specing> (which plain segfaults for me on a HD3xxx)
<specing> traeak: probably, yes
<traeak> HD encryption is probably something sane to start doing
<traeak> when did they add that to the intel family ?
<w00tc0d3> hey
<specing> I will only buy processors with AES-NI builtin from now on
<jelly-home> traeak: I basically would not leave home without it ;-)
<specing> my laptop was straining its CPU quite hard doing I/O
<w00tc0d3> I've got an old Pentium 4, with 1GB of RAM. And it's functioing as download PC. It's around 6 hours per day online. Would it be cheaper when I switch to a Cubieboard?
<jelly-home> someone steals your mobile device, I don't care about the device as much as the code and data on it
<w00tc0d3> i mean, also in electricity costs
<traeak> looks like none of our systems have aes supporting cpus
<traeak> unfortuantely our partners can't even figure out our code
<jelly-home> w00tc0d3: can you connect all your storage device to said cubieboard?
<traeak> hehe
<jelly-home> s/device/devices/
<ibot> jelly-home meant: w00tc0d3: can you connect all your storage devices to said cubieboard?
<w00tc0d3> jelly-home: yeah, 2TB HDD via SATA
<jelly-home> a 3.5" disk will need external power
<specing> w00tc0d3: I am currently using a 90 nm pentium4 because my core2duo laptop died
<jelly-home> still the total will most likely be less than a P4 box pulling 50-100W
<traeak> asking an associate if he actually bought the dual socketed piledriver he was talking about in january
<specing> pentium4 is more like 100-150W
<specing> I can feel the heat, you know...
<traeak> p4 is pretty brutal on power
<w00tc0d3> jelly-home: maybe power supply from PC :D
<specing> address sizes: 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
<specing> power management:
<w00tc0d3> specing: ah... 100W idle? o_O
<specing> ^ there is no power management.
<w00tc0d3> wow
<traeak> cubieboard is missing gigabit. how many hard disks you going to drop on it?
<w00tc0d3> One HDD :)
<w00tc0d3> and power supply via pico or normal PC supply
<traeak> at least its a 64bit p4
<specing> w00tc0d3: a cubieboard is going to be atleast 100x more power efficient
<jelly-home> traeak: it can only do one via sata anyway
<specing> nor sure about bogomips: 6014.08
<w00tc0d3> specing: like... 2W idle and 5W load?
<traeak> jelly-home: there's a chance it might support a SATA hub :-p but those are pretty rare
<specing> w00tc0d3: yes, like that
<specing> HDD + 5-10W
<jelly-home> traeak: I think someone here said Allwinner explicitely stated no support for SATA multiplexers
<w00tc0d3> Yeah, but I can turn off HDD with power management
<w00tc0d3> I can always mount a folder over NFS anyways
<w00tc0d3> or make a HDD dock
<jelly-home> yes you can, echo 1 > /sys/block/sda/device/delete works on a cubieboard
<w00tc0d3> it isn't going to function as NAS, probably
<w00tc0d3> jelly-home: SATA multiplexer?
<jelly-home> w00tc0d3: the thing you call a sata hub.
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<jelly-home> it's actually more of a switch, and the controller you connect it to has to support some of the protocol shenanigans
<w00tc0d3> Yeah yeah
<w00tc0d3> I know what you intend :)
<traeak> i think techincally it's a "port multiplier"
<w00tc0d3> but uhm, is it supported by Cubie?
<traeak> the name of it sorry
<w00tc0d3> traeak: my network isn't 1Gbit/s :-P
<traeak> which means you also don't have high speed downloads
<w00tc0d3> nope, my connection is 50Mbit/s :-P
<traeak> we've been cheated, they locked us down to 35/7
<w00tc0d3> 50/4 here or so
<jelly-home> traeak: you don't need gigabit if you don't have cpu power to both read _and_ write 100MB/s at the same time ;-)
<traeak> before the other yahoos in the office joined piled onto the internet provider i was getting 120/70
<w00tc0d3> jelly-home: +1 :P
<w00tc0d3> traeak: haha :-P I build my stuff (Android, Ubuntu Touch, kernels) on a dedi server. Then I transmit it with 100Mbit/s to my VPS, where I distribute it to people, so I don't care :-P
<w00tc0d3> I hardly upload big files
<traeak> doen't matter generally that much to me either, generally
<jelly-home> "they mostly come out at night, mostly"
<traeak> "let's put her in charge!"
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<w00tc0d3> specing: were you the guy with sooooo many AVRs?
<specing> I have about 10, does that count?
<w00tc0d3> yes xD
<w00tc0d3> i have about zero
<w00tc0d3> i don't see a goal for them =/
<w00tc0d3> maybe funny as binary clock
<specing> If you are looking for someone that is literally swimming in them, look at abcminiuser
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<jelly-home> *twitch*
<w00tc0d3> wow, binary clocks are quite amazing
<specing> oh, I thought this was #avr
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<specing> arm killer :
<traeak> the cpu itself is 17W
<specing> Well it probably performs much much better :D
<specing> + DIMM ram slots!
<specing> + a lot of sata connectors
<traeak> asus has one as well
<specing> 2×204pin SO-DIMM DDR3 1333/1066
<specing> laptop ram
<specing> = more expensive
<traeak> unless you have tons of that crap sitting around
<specing> also no 1600 MT/s
<specing> DDR3?
<jelly-home> specing: can't find "NM70" on ark.intel.com
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<specing> I have tons of useless DDR2 crap sitting around :D
<specing> jelly-home: NM70?
<traeak> usb3
<traeak> yes ddr3
<traeak> i put 8GB sticks in 2 of the laptops
<specing> traeak: must have been an expensive upgrade
<jelly-home> oh, that was the chipset, not the cpu
<traeak> specing: no, about 50usd
<traeak> funny the mobo doesn't support the ram
<traeak> the bios, excuse me
<traeak> but it boots up fine and then works well
<traeak> thank god linux ignores much of the bios
<traeak> ram is trash cheap
<traeak> it is just freaking amazing
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<SPG> Tejinder master bdad636 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/torqu3e.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=bdad636
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<SPG> Tejinder master 215e5c0 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/torqu3e.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=215e5c0
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