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<traeak>
i know this is sort spam here, but this is a steal of a deal on a lenovo x131e: http://tinyurl.com/c8la9yu
<traeak>
that's an ivy bridge based cpu, non HT
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<jelly-home>
hmph, they disabled aes-ni on it
<jelly-home>
(saves cpu with an encrypted disk)
<traeak>
aesni for ?
<jelly-home>
traeak: there's only one possible thing "for" -- it's a cpu instruction set extension. btw. an X131e (with a i3-3210 tho) went for $800 here in .hr so $350 is more than half
<traeak>
350 is less than half :-p
<xenoxaos>
but this has a celeron
<traeak>
looks like the 3210 benches 2x faster than the 1007 ilkely
<specing>
only i5, i7 and Xeon cpus have AES-NI
<specing>
the linked thingie has a celeron at 1.5 GHz
<specing>
I estimate max 80 MB/s AES
<jelly-home>
specing: it's a shame intels treat it as an enterprise feature
<specing>
Yes
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<specing>
the $50 AMD APU does 2GB/s AES due to it
<specing>
But sadly I am locked to buying Intel's i5
<traeak>
required encryption then ?
<specing>
because all other graphics are too much of a hassle to be worth the $100 price difference
<jelly-home>
specing: 80MB/s? my old i3-540 did 250MB/s on one core... this might be labeled celeron but is 2.5 generations newer and has the same amount of cache
<specing>
traeak: I always encrypt my HDDs
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<traeak>
just looking at cursory benchies the 1007 is about like the old i3 2367m
<jelly-home>
then I found a dude selling i5-660 for cheaps. :-)
<traeak>
minus HT
<specing>
jelly-home: Intel handicaps its chips more than you might believe
<traeak>
intel seriously doesn't seem to have any competition anymore
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<specing>
traeak: :( yes
<traeak>
i mean the price on the 3730k has only gone up since its release
<traeak>
i bought one the same month they came out
<traeak>
for a work demo machine
<traeak>
microatx setup
<specing>
And it successfully locked a good portion of the Linux community in because it is the only graphics vendor that supports open source graphics
<traeak>
one of my partners ferries to customer sites for demos
<jelly-home>
oh, they still do in some segments; eg. amd have ECC support on most (all?) cpus so there are cheap dedicated servers with amds inside
<traeak>
that easily outruns the dual core i7 xeons we have at work here
<traeak>
jelly-home: true for some workloads, for pure cpu crunching though...
<traeak>
actually letme ask
<jelly-home>
specing: I've been using video-intel 2005-2010, over 2-3 different chipsets. Bought a nvidia in 2010. It's effin more stable and less buggy, with a blob driver
<specing>
AMD have good bang for the buck offerings all around
<specing>
jelly-home: Yes, with the blob
<jelly-home>
it's sad
<traeak>
intel video has seem some recent boosts
<specing>
but the blob means I have to relink the module every time I upgrade the kernel
<traeak>
i'm well pleased with how the x130e with hd3000 works
<jelly-home>
I don't want boosts. I want a no regressions policy
<specing>
which means typing in a 80x24 terminal
<traeak>
much better than the nvidia in my demo laptop
<jelly-home>
specing: dkms does that automatically on any sane distro
<specing>
+ external graphics take space and are usually more power hungry
<specing>
I don't need much graphics power for running terminals on a 1920x1200 LCD
<traeak>
but i have to admit my main dev workstation has nvidia in it
<specing>
Im probably going to buy an i5-3330 with HD 2500
<traeak>
amd stuff isnt' day to day stable enough
<specing>
AMD's video decoder API is virtually nonexistend
<specing>
even on fglrx
<traeak>
does the armv8 instruction set have aes stuff on it?
<specing>
(which plain segfaults for me on a HD3xxx)
<specing>
traeak: probably, yes
<traeak>
HD encryption is probably something sane to start doing
<traeak>
when did they add that to the intel family ?
<specing>
I will only buy processors with AES-NI builtin from now on
<jelly-home>
traeak: I basically would not leave home without it ;-)
<specing>
my laptop was straining its CPU quite hard doing I/O
<w00tc0d3>
I've got an old Pentium 4, with 1GB of RAM. And it's functioing as download PC. It's around 6 hours per day online. Would it be cheaper when I switch to a Cubieboard?
<jelly-home>
someone steals your mobile device, I don't care about the device as much as the code and data on it
<w00tc0d3>
i mean, also in electricity costs
<traeak>
looks like none of our systems have aes supporting cpus
<traeak>
unfortuantely our partners can't even figure out our code
<jelly-home>
w00tc0d3: can you connect all your storage device to said cubieboard?
<traeak>
hehe
<jelly-home>
s/device/devices/
<ibot>
jelly-home meant: w00tc0d3: can you connect all your storage devices to said cubieboard?
<w00tc0d3>
jelly-home: yeah, 2TB HDD via SATA
<jelly-home>
a 3.5" disk will need external power
<specing>
w00tc0d3: I am currently using a 90 nm pentium4 because my core2duo laptop died
<jelly-home>
still the total will most likely be less than a P4 box pulling 50-100W
<traeak>
asking an associate if he actually bought the dual socketed piledriver he was talking about in january
<specing>
pentium4 is more like 100-150W
<specing>
I can feel the heat, you know...
<traeak>
p4 is pretty brutal on power
<w00tc0d3>
jelly-home: maybe power supply from PC :D
<traeak>
cubieboard is missing gigabit. how many hard disks you going to drop on it?
<w00tc0d3>
One HDD :)
<w00tc0d3>
and power supply via pico or normal PC supply
<traeak>
at least its a 64bit p4
<specing>
w00tc0d3: a cubieboard is going to be atleast 100x more power efficient
<jelly-home>
traeak: it can only do one via sata anyway
<specing>
nor sure about bogomips: 6014.08
<w00tc0d3>
specing: like... 2W idle and 5W load?
<traeak>
jelly-home: there's a chance it might support a SATA hub :-p but those are pretty rare
<specing>
w00tc0d3: yes, like that
<specing>
HDD + 5-10W
<jelly-home>
traeak: I think someone here said Allwinner explicitely stated no support for SATA multiplexers
<w00tc0d3>
Yeah, but I can turn off HDD with power management
<w00tc0d3>
I can always mount a folder over NFS anyways
<w00tc0d3>
or make a HDD dock
<jelly-home>
yes you can, echo 1 > /sys/block/sda/device/delete works on a cubieboard
<w00tc0d3>
it isn't going to function as NAS, probably
<w00tc0d3>
jelly-home: SATA multiplexer?
<jelly-home>
w00tc0d3: the thing you call a sata hub.
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<jelly-home>
it's actually more of a switch, and the controller you connect it to has to support some of the protocol shenanigans
<w00tc0d3>
Yeah yeah
<w00tc0d3>
I know what you intend :)
<traeak>
i think techincally it's a "port multiplier"
<w00tc0d3>
but uhm, is it supported by Cubie?
<traeak>
the name of it sorry
<w00tc0d3>
traeak: my network isn't 1Gbit/s :-P
<traeak>
which means you also don't have high speed downloads
<w00tc0d3>
nope, my connection is 50Mbit/s :-P
<traeak>
we've been cheated, they locked us down to 35/7
<w00tc0d3>
50/4 here or so
<jelly-home>
traeak: you don't need gigabit if you don't have cpu power to both read _and_ write 100MB/s at the same time ;-)
<traeak>
before the other yahoos in the office joined piled onto the internet provider i was getting 120/70
<w00tc0d3>
jelly-home: +1 :P
<w00tc0d3>
traeak: haha :-P I build my stuff (Android, Ubuntu Touch, kernels) on a dedi server. Then I transmit it with 100Mbit/s to my VPS, where I distribute it to people, so I don't care :-P
<w00tc0d3>
I hardly upload big files
<traeak>
doen't matter generally that much to me either, generally
<jelly-home>
"they mostly come out at night, mostly"
<traeak>
"let's put her in charge!"
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* jelly-home
climbs into an old mecha and attacks traeak
<w00tc0d3>
specing: were you the guy with sooooo many AVRs?
<specing>
I have about 10, does that count?
<w00tc0d3>
yes xD
<w00tc0d3>
i have about zero
<w00tc0d3>
i don't see a goal for them =/
<w00tc0d3>
maybe funny as binary clock
<specing>
If you are looking for someone that is literally swimming in them, look at abcminiuser
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