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<nicksydney_> Happy New Year all !
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<nicksydney_> seeems like wpwrak new year is not good without power
<nicksydney_> DocScrutinizer05: Happy New Year...hope 2014 Neo900 break record and mass production can start :)
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<apelete> Happy New Year everyone !
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<DocScrutinizer05> nicksydney_: thanks
<DocScrutinizer05> again happy new year to everybody
<DocScrutinizer05> somebody familiar with fail2ban? any hints how to set it up?
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<kyak> i'm using pam-abl and some time-based rules for iptables
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<whitequark> nicksydney_: saleae's software is quite great
<wpwrak> wait ... still booting .. :)
<wpwrak> ah yes, heard of that one.
<wpwrak> (i think) it's the one with a pcb with something like ten buttons, isn't it ?
<wpwrak> rev B with OLED .. all paths lead to rome ;-)
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<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: (left) yeah, some short blackout, it seems.
<wpwrak> as usual, it took only the pc down (well, and probably the fluke, which always resets when there's even the slightest problem with power)
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<wpwrak> wow, 30c3 had 9k people. bigger than FISL.
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<DocScrutinizer05> FISL?
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<wpwrak> the free software conference in porto alegre, brazil
<wpwrak> it's pretty huge but the peak so far was "only" some ~8500 people
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<eintopf> wpwrak_: welcome back :)
<eintopf> ehm
<eintopf> it was a netsplit only
<wpwrak_> yeah, for once the problem wasn't on my end :)
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<DocScrutinizer05> yeah, netsplits
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<nicksydney_> wpwrak_: welcome amigo ! ... power down start of 2014 ?
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<nicksydney_> wpwrak_: looks like anelok vs http://hackaday.com/2014/01/01/usbpass-a-mooltipass-like-project/ and anelok is the beautiful version i suppose :)
<DocScrutinizer05> what problems do those guys have? writing all [names] with [ ] around them
<DocScrutinizer05> this really looks silly and retarded
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<nicksydney> wpwrak_: was thinking last night while looking at anelok ... what if we add a vibrating motor to indicate low battery...or perhaps a small current LED
<kristianpaul> blink led, motor good for battery get discharged
<wpwrak_> no room for a motor :) and there is already a led. could be used for something like this ... but: anything that draws more current to indicate a low battery is likely to make the system fall over even more quickly.
<wpwrak_> a more power-efficient way would be to indicate "BAT" in the corner of the OLED. that draws less power than turning on the LED.
<kristianpaul> (oled) oh interesting
<whitequark> wpwrak_: you can blink the led with very low duty cycle
<whitequark> turn it on for 200ms once a five second interval
<whitequark> additionally that draws more attention
<kristianpaul> and power
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<whitequark> versus oled? not sure
<wpwrak_> whitequark: already about 10 ms should create a visible flash. but the peak current will still be much larger than the OLED.
<whitequark> judging by peak current, we have thermonuclear synthesis
<whitequark> how much current would "BAT" on OLED draw?
<whitequark> say... 100 pixels?
<wpwrak_> something like 2-3 mA, i think. maybe even less.
<kristianpaul> and when wpwrak_ using fram anelok just will power from air :)
<whitequark> a rather bright LED draws 10mA
<whitequark> so... 10mA for 10ms/5s, or 2-3mA continously?
<whitequark> seems obvious to me
<whitequark> even if it's 100mA (uber bright!) the flashing technique still wins
<wpwrak_> on terms of Ah, yes. but the peak will translate to a further drop of battery power, possibly driving the system into reset.