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<wpwrak>
larsc: (talk) should be recorded, yes. it went well, but since it was on friday in the latest slot (19 o'clock), the number of people was pretty low. estimates range from 15-30. the room would have had space for maybe 500.
<wpwrak>
well, in the end, it's the quality that counts, not the quantity :)
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<wpwrak>
kristianpaul: (cap notation) for RF caps ? or do you mean other "special" caps ? so far, /RF is the only "odd" thing i have. and "/RF" really was the only reasonably general qualifier i could come up with.
<wolfspraul>
nice
<wolfspraul>
yes sure I am 'tracking', all a matter of definition :-)
<wolfspraul>
maybe 'interested' would be a better word
<wpwrak>
heh :) well, with kicad's development speed, there usually isn't a great hurry
<wpwrak>
i just occasionally peek into the list. mainly when i'm about to make some sort of statement about kicad and need to be sure it's still true :)
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<kristianpaul>
yes only RF wpwrak
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: about talk, now that you sid low people, they were involve in hw some how?
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: but then this RF worth the label because it will influence in the bom generation when generating shopping list?
<wpwrak>
probably most are, yes. e.g., i also had maddog who is planning to make custom hardware for his "computerized housing" project
<wpwrak>
(rf) boom would have an "RF" tag that corresponds to it, yes
<wpwrak>
(rf) i hate how vague all this is, but that's the sort of information i could gather
<kristianpaul>
yeah sure at least is a tag
<kristianpaul>
computerized housing?
<wpwrak>
if you need more specific characteristics, you'd have to specify the part number
<wpwrak>
(housing) put central servers into buildings and connect all apartments to them. put "thin clients" into the apartments. make maintenance of the servers a service.
<kristianpaul>
ah again?!
<kristianpaul>
i tought he was parner with intel..
<wpwrak>
he's been at this for a while, yes :) (no idea about intel)
<kristianpaul>
yeah, i remenber project cauca and super speed wifi powered thin clients
<kristianpaul>
but interesting he concern about custom
<kristianpaul>
cauca/caua
<wpwrak>
he plan seems to be getting closer to viability. e.g., he's moving the financial burden from (bank/state) credits to building construction projects. where it would be a comparably trivial item.
<wpwrak>
yes, that one
<wpwrak>
s/he plan/his plan
<wpwrak>
and he's moving the servers out of the buildings, into centers. also makes the thing more scalable and cheaper
<wpwrak>
so it all sounds a lot less crazy now than it did just a couple of years ago
<kristianpaul>
yeah i remenber..
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<wpwrak>
hellekin: was good talking to you, too :) regarding sdr, this is the commercially available low-cost SDR chip i mentioned: http://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/rtl-sdr
<wpwrak>
hellekin: when you talk to CEITEC, making a TX/RX chip with similar characteristics may be something worth mentioning. i'm sure it would be hotly welcomed not only in the Free sw/hw/whatever world, but also by academia.
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<wpwrak>
hellekin: of course, whether they can even do something with such an idea would also be a question of how much R&D they can do themselves. maybe they just have manufacturing capabilities, in which case setting up such a project would be much harder.
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<kristianpaul>
morning
<qi-bot>
[commit] Werner Almesberger: Makefile: also run make for components/, since we now have gencon.lib (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/a39861b
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<qi-bot>
Yann Sionneau (RT Qi Hardware(1)): RT @qihardware: Draft slides are here for "Making Hardware with KiCad and Friends" ( 230018534095351808@qihardware - 35s ago via Echofon )
<larsc>
my demo system did not. well at least not completely
<larsc>
the desktop background is gone
<larsc>
and my session startup scripts don't run anymore
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<viric>
that's the fate of the dice roll
<larsc>
hm, it smells of smoke, I hope the house it not on fire
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<larsc>
now there are firetruck sirens, but they seem to be passing by
<viric>
you start reminding me of IT Crowd
<wpwrak>
larsc: hmm, seems that xpdf took a hit ...
<wpwrak>
larsc: (fire trucks passing) maybe they got your address wrong ?
<viric>
when, with fire in the room, emails the firemen service "FIRE!!! FIRE!!! FIRE!!!"
<larsc>
wpwrak: the house next door already burned down a few months ago
<wpwrak>
larsc: have much gangfighting at night, too ? :)
<larsc>
not that I'm aware of
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<larsc>
would be great if the fire department had a rss feed on their homepage where post incidents when they are reported
<viric>
check their twitter account
<Ayla>
to check if it's your home that's burning without moving your ass from your chair? :)
<larsc>
I actually tried, they don't have one
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<viric>
larsc: ask some elder neighbour. They know everything.
<larsc>
Ayla: would make me more comfortable knowing that is a neighboring house and not the one I live in
<Ayla>
indeed
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* wpwrak
hates quantum entanglement. two different circuits, let's call them A and B, using the same mcu. both fail in a very similar way. in one (A), an improperly soldered resistor is (eventually) found to be the cause. after fixing it, A works. and through spooky action at a distance, also B suddenly starts to work.
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<mth>
wpwrak: that's super convenient: instead of doing a recall of faulty devices, you just keep one unit at the factory and repair that one if needed :)
<wpwrak>
hmm. that does indeed sound useful. lemme call my patent lawyer :)
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* wpwrak
wonders how many people one could screw with such a nonsense patent if expressed in sufficiently vague terms. after all, quantum effects are at the root of everything ...