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<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: fix helper-templates-in-copyright (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/f2cb67a
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<viric> I always wanted a phone with cb radio
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* wpwrak hates nspluginviewer. first time in ages i had a kernel crash.
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<viric> what is nspluginviewer?
<viric> are you blaming a user space program for a kernel crash ? :)
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<wpwrak> well, that flash junk does a lot of weird things. it may have some "dirty" paths that allow it to corrupt things it shouldn't be allowed to corrupt.
<wpwrak> e.g., i sometimes get residual windows that just stick in the X11 frame buffer. but only from flash. nothing else has such problems.
<viric> hm I never noticed those problems
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<LunaVorax> Hello everyone!
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<whitequark> wpwrak: I'm pretty sure that your problem isn't nspluginviewer itself, but 3D acceleration which flash uses
<whitequark> iow, you have broken graphics drivers, which is more common than not
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<wpwrak> it's some chain that begins with flash, which is a useless annoyance to begin with
<wpwrak> so i put the blame right at the origin :)
<wpwrak> or, paraphrasing Linus, "fuck you flash, fuck you !" :)
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<kristianpaul> fish a book http://olpcsf.org/node/61
<kristianpaul> sorry no only books
<viric> the sheevaplug is a very nice device still
<viric> and there are the pixel qi people too... I still want such a nice screen :)
<kristianpaul> well i was more interested on the script to fetch media from the archive.org more easilly
<viric> :D
<kristianpaul> the kindle screen is very interesting too, well whatever is e-ink
<kristianpaul> shame kindle fire is no color e-ink ;)
<viric> I think most discomfort for reading is not always the screen
<kristianpaul> oh no, how you feel the book to
<viric> I think that there should be more power to the users for choosing the layout, the types, etc.
<kristianpaul> passing pages... bookmarking
<viric> I dislike how the CSS on browsers has developed, into a system that makes the web *authors* decide how it will look like, instead of the *readers*.
<viric> the whole html idea upside down :)
<viric> We rarely see easy tools to tune the spacing, the types used, the thickness, the antialiasing technique, ...
<viric> for the reader.
<kristianpaul> ah good point
<viric> colors...
<viric> bg and fg
<viric> that matters a lot for me, for a comfortable reading
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<viric> Some *authoring* tools have nice devices to set up all that, but with computer-like devices, that power should be given to the readers.
<viric> For example, I dislike the so broad use of sans-serif types for texts.
<kristianpaul> oh sure
<viric> I quite like how I read in my rss reader.
<viric> (for example)
<viric> I'm often lucky, that few authors use style-overriding tags in their feeds :)
<viric> then I can easily make their text look like what I want.
<viric> but that's tuned for my usual screen, of course.
<viric> (and browser, ...)
<kristianpaul> you like banks a lot :)
<viric> haha
<kristianpaul> you read on wich kind of screen?
<viric> that's for firefox in my laptop
<kristianpaul> laptop,tablet, desktop, mobile?
<viric> For my sony e-ink ereader, I use the 'Plan PDF' option above :)
<viric> thank you for your link nevertheless! I like these issues about making reading comfortable
<kristianpaul> :-)
<viric> but I think there is a lot more field for blaming the software, than the hardware :)
<viric> For example, I think that if the user can easily interact with the screen contents, that makes reading difficult ;)
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<kristianpaul> diffcult because you want to do more and more.. the got fustrated or the contrary..
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<kristianpaul> s/the/then
<qi-bot> kristianpaul meant: "diffcult because you want to do more and more.. then got fustrated or then contrary.."
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<Ayla> whitequark: hello
<Ayla> does jz-boot support the jz4770?
<whitequark> Ayla: nfc
<whitequark> but probably it won't be hard to fix it if it does not
<Ayla> ok, it does not :)
<whitequark> you'll need to substitute the secondary bootloader for jz4770's
<whitequark> and probably tweak the parameters block
<Ayla> I mean it's not even recognized with the -e option
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<whitequark> Ayla: maybe USB vendor/device ids are wrong?
<Ayla> whitequark: idVendor=a108, idProduct=4770
<Ayla> my dingoo has idVendor=601a
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<Ayla> ok, I patched it, let's see if it works...
<Ayla> yep, it is detected
<whitequark> cool
<Ayla> where can I find the firmware?
<larsc> you have to write it :p
<Ayla> ouch.
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<Ayla> can't I use the firmware files provided by Ingenic?
<larsc> maybe
<Ayla> ...
<larsc> there's only one way to find it out
<Ayla> yeah
<Ayla> ask whitequark :)
<larsc> hehe
<Ayla> I tried to boot with those files, but it didn't work; however that does not mean the files are wrong, as jzboot doesn't really support the jz4770 right now
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<whitequark> Ayla: for jz4740 we used the ingenic firmware
<Ayla> I tried with the firmware files from ingenic, but it disconnects as soon as I type "boot" or try to set a GPIO
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<Ayla> ok, looks like I can load the second firmware
<Ayla> that means the SRAM is correctly initialized
<whitequark> nice
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