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<dvdk>
huh, just trying to get the latest ISE web pack, and the web page asks me for "company name" and "shipping address" for export regulation checks.
<dvdk>
what do you guys enter there for download? just wondering whether I should insert "qi-hardware.com" or "sharism", which would even be partiall true...
<kristianpaul>
dvdk: oh, hi !
<dvdk>
hi
<kristianpaul>
got a M1 too seems :-)
<kristianpaul>
just lie
<kristianpaul>
i enter real data, but i think other will not matter much...
<dvdk>
(about M1) no, not yet. maybe sometime next year. just trying to get a working toolchain setup first.
<kristianpaul>
sure
<kristianpaul>
well, i think you can put qi-hw
<kristianpaul>
why not? ;-)
<dvdk>
lying would be easy. just feels discriminating, that they won't hand out theyr software to free software enthusiasts in a honest way.
<GitHub30>
[milkymist/master] softusb: accept everything but non-MIDI and system messages - Werner Almesberger
<GitHub30>
[milkymist/master] bios: make the LIBS as .PHONY - Xiangfu Liu
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[milkymist/master] libfpvm: use C operator precedence - Werner Almesberger
<wpwrak>
hehe :)
<wpwrak>
i'm also not so sure it works that easily through an LCM. don't you have to have the coils on top ? so that would mean to put them into the glass or some have transparent plastic circuit above the display
<lekernel__>
no, it seems to work OK with the coils behind
<wpwrak>
does the VJ really want to wield a pen ?
<wpwrak>
the pen is mightier than the sword, but ...
<lekernel__>
those things have a range of a dozen centimeters anyway
<lekernel__>
the thickness of the LCM isn't important
<lekernel__>
what can cause more problems are interferences with the LCM electronics
<wpwrak>
i was thinking more of shielding effects of all the metal in there
<lekernel__>
(the pressure is sensed on the pen, which sends the information wirelessly to the tablet)
<wpwrak>
can you source pens ?
<lekernel__>
yes... or just make them. not excessively hard either...
<wpwrak>
also, in some cases, a simple touch screen can emulate pressure via duration
<lekernel__>
the most simple form is a capacitor, a coil and a switch
<wpwrak>
there are also fancier techniques that give you pressure directly from a touch screen. might be patented, though
<wpwrak>
(make them) without them looking "cheap" ? :)
<kristianpaul>
most of branded pens looks cheap afaik
<wpwrak>
but i can't really imagine a pen-based interface to be suitable in the heat of a performance
<wpwrak>
that's more a studio thing
<kristianpaul>
open source vision in the other hand ;-)
<wpwrak>
and i don't think most studios will be very interested in anything that's not 1080p and so on. there's always the tendency to use the best technology available, to be able to reuse the material in a few years
<lekernel__>
did I say it wouldn't be 1080p? :)
<wpwrak>
yes ! vision ! where's that ?
<wpwrak>
1080p ? not in M2 :)
<lekernel__>
well, not that wacom thing either :)
<lekernel__>
that's for the very long term
<wpwrak>
in M3, with terahertz RAM with optical interconnect, hey, why not ;-)
<lekernel__>
DDR3 would be sufficient already ;)
<wpwrak>
well, let's focus on filling the exoskeleton for now. enough work waiting there already.
<wpwrak>
but vision is a good point. that's something that would add a lot of value and should be possible. visikord-style
<kristianpaul>
lekernel__: is it too hard add more instructions to pfu?
<kristianpaul>
i havent check source yet, just asking quick and dirty here :)
<kristianpaul>
i noticed your apoint about a second lm32 is just another slow cpu, so i want reconsider the power of multiple pfu or how customize it for specific task
<kristianpaul>
s/apoint/point
<lekernel__>
I'm for the dataflow HLS approach, not layers of reconfigurable stuff over layers of reconfigurable stuff
<kristianpaul>
ah, you made the java thing to work finally? :-)
<kristianpaul>
or get back to myHDL ?
<wpwrak>
for vision, how about a camera pixel path element that "listens" to an NxM matrix in the pixel stream. for each pixel, it differentiates, does a bandpass filter, followed by a per-pixel hysteresis and maybe an overall quorum. that would then become a signal to the LM32 and from there it could go into a PFPU variable
<lekernel__>
neither are suitable for what I want to do, so I'm building my own