Topic for #milkymist is now Milkymist One, Milkymist SoC & Flickernoise development channel (LLHDL/Antares are welcome too) :: Logs: http://en.qi-hardware.com/mmlogs :: JFDI
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Topic for #milkymist is now Milkymist One, Milkymist SoC & Flickernoise development channel (LLHDL/Antares are welcome too) :: Logs: http://en.qi-hardware.com/mmlogs :: JFDI
<qi-bot> The Firmware build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-milkymist/milkymist-firmware-11272011-2319/
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<stekern> hmm, the bte signals of lm32 aren't connected, how does bursting work?
<kristianpaul> *g*
<kristianpaul> i think we asume linear burst but not sure
<kristianpaul> also you dont see many cores implementing it as well
<wpwrak> hmm. annoying. i connect the usb keyboard via an extension cable and even the rx timeouts go away.
<wpwrak> extra cables are supposed to make things worse. not better !
<qi-bot> The Firmware build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-milkymist/milkymist-firmware-11282011-0110/
<kristianpaul> better ! cute :)
<kristianpaul> balance to the force ;)
<wpwrak> well, i'll debug the LV3 then. at least that one is properly misbehaving :)
<kristianpaul> is the factory that cable came with LV3?
<kristianpaul> ah ok..
<stekern> kristianpaul: (linear burst) yes, looks like you're right
<stekern> it also seems it is assumed that if the first access in the burst is in fml cache, the rest of the burst will be so too
<stekern> does lm32 do cache line refills with linear bursts?
<kristianpaul> i read somewhere cache need to be clean, let me confirm
<kristianpaul> afaik i dont understand this topci very well (fml/L1/l2 caches...)
<stekern> wpwrak: the errors I get with my kb/mouse are very inconsistent too
<stekern> sometimes the mouse even works in fn (for a while)
<wpwrak> stekern: yeah, my plan is to first try to kill all the bugs in can find locally. with a little luck, not too many of the hard to debug remote ones will be left then :)
<kristianpaul> haha, i just realized so the mouse i use (genius traveler) always have a usb extension with it :)
<wolfspraul> usb extension?
<stekern> wpwrak: sounds like a good plan
<kristianpaul> usb cable***
<kristianpaul> extension cable**
<wolfspraul> you mean there is a connector on the mouse's side?
<kristianpaul> M1 <--- usb extension cable --->|<--- mouse
<wolfspraul> ah ok
<wpwrak> it's a USB A male to USB A female cable. very non-standard, i think :)
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<kristianpaul> oh dhcp is background now, that should improve boot time by seconds
<wpwrak> or more, if there's no network :)
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<GitHub115> [scripts] xiangfu pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/GdMtQg
<GitHub115> [scripts/master] fix typo - Xiangfu Liu
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<GitHub31> [scripts] xiangfu pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ifz-zQ
<GitHub31> [scripts/master] ignore cvs update - Xiangfu Liu
<wpwrak> hmm. that didn't sound nice. gunshots in the street ?
<xiangfu> wpwrak, Hi. I just ordered four DMX devices from taobao:
<wpwrak> wow. big collection :)
<wpwrak> let's see what they look like ...
<xiangfu> wpwrak, the release_2011-11-13 don't include your 2 usb itfs code . :(
<xiangfu> wpwrak, yes.
<xiangfu> wpwrak, from my understand the dmx* variables in patches is read only. and DMX port is like bypass for now. right?
<xiangfu> what is the different between idmx* and dmx*?
<wpwrak> i think idmx is input (from a controller), dmx is output (to a light)
<roh> dmx has different version
<roh> s
<roh> the old one is one-way .. only from controller to dimmer/lamps etc
<wpwrak> xiangfu: all this only USD 300 ?!? wow
<roh> there is a new variant which also does talkback.. and can do autosetting of addresses etc
<roh> in the end its all rs485 based with some funny details
<xiangfu> wpwrak, 366.504 USD :)
<xiangfu> 1 USD = 6.37920 CNY
<roh> dmx512 is the simple old one i think
<wpwrak> amazing
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<xiangfu> there is one patch for DMX out: 'MilkDrop/Rozzor & Aderrasi - Canon (DMX out).fnp"
<xiangfu> but there are only dmx1/2/3/4. needs learn more about dmx.
<wolfspraul> xiangfu: please link to that equipment on the m1 accessories page too
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<qi-bot> The Firmware build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-milkymist/milkymist-firmware-11282011-0543/
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<xiangfu> this new build boot time now it's ~16 seconds. (without network cables connect)
<xiangfu> wpwrak, (about dhcp boot time) ^
<xiangfu> the new build. start rendering first. then start dhcp.
<xiangfu> now it try to dhcp forever. : http://pastebin.com/gq2bSEe3
<wpwrak> so that's good, right ?
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<xiangfu> wpwrak, yes. at least when plug in the network cable. it will get a ip address.
<xiangfu> wpwrak, before this. we have to manually click a button in GUIU
<wpwrak> kewl
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<wpwrak> hmm, funny. i increased the number of SETUP retries and made it cycle back to USB reset on error, and now. i'm getting a 24 MHz USB bit clock. i wonder what i did to deserve that ...
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<GitHub117> [flickernoise] xiangfu pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/0YY-Mw
<GitHub117> [flickernoise/master] use it own language dispaly the Localization setting - Xiangfu Liu
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<lekernel> stekern: yes, the lm32 cache refills with linear burst
<lekernel> stekern: and it is also - correctly - assumed that if the first access in the burst is in fml cache, the rest of the burst will also be there
<lekernel> this kind of assumptions really make you gain time, and results in smaller, faster and less prone to pesky bugs (because of improperly handled corner cases) hardware. of course, the wishbone spec ignores those four aspects.
<lekernel> xiangfu: to disable translation of a string, prefix it with \e instead of messing the translation tables ...
<GitHub71> [flickernoise] sbourdeauducq pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/WR1ljQ
<GitHub71> [flickernoise/master] Revert "use it own language dispaly the Localization setting" - Sebastien Bourdeauducq
<xiangfu> lekernel, just finish a new patch.
<xiangfu> lekernel, http://pastebin.com/9HA6WB0k. if this ok. I will commit it. :)
<lekernel> Disable translation of a string, prefix it with \e -> To disable ...
<lekernel> and leave the keyboard layouts translated imo
<xiangfu> ok
<xiangfu> lekernel, should be ok now: http://pastebin.com/mTJKuq9f
<xiangfu> :)
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<lekernel> ok, fine
<lekernel> I think you can remove "English" from the translation table though
<stekern> lekernel: yeah, sure, I didn't mean that the assumptions were wrong under the circumstances
<stekern> but wrapping bursts would seem more efficient for cacheline refills, but that is a choice made of lattice I guess
<qi-bot> The Firmware build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-milkymist/milkymist-firmware-11282011-1019/
<GitHub83> [flickernoise] xiangfu pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/2Oljww
<GitHub83> [flickernoise/master] use it own language dispaly the Localization setting - Xiangfu Liu
<lekernel> dispaly ?
<xiangfu> wiat. I commit again.
<GitHub1> [flickernoise] xiangfu force-pushed master from 0b272f0 to f040ca7: http://git.io/kOuqRQ
<GitHub1> [flickernoise/master] Use it's own language in the Localization setting - Xiangfu Liu
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<xiangfu> how about add a handle/grip in the milkymist on box.
<lekernel> ?
<lekernel> what do you mean? a handle on the case?
<wpwrak> maybe two little holes so you could run a lanyard through them ? :)
<wpwrak> of course, a nice big handle, like on a frying pan, would also speak of extravagant style :)
<wpwrak> "we think this is a really hot product. and we're not afraid to show it."
<xiangfu> lekernel, I mean the bit box. this one: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Milkymist_One_accessories#box
<wpwrak> aah, a little plastic handle for the box ?
<xiangfu> yes.
<xiangfu> s/bit/big/ (typo too much today)
<wpwrak> hmm. would be nice for carrying the box home from a shop
<wpwrak> but may get people to try to use it as a carrying case for m1. is it robust enough for that ?
<xiangfu> it is not robust enough.
<xiangfu> maybe we have a expensive box for m1 in future. :)
<xiangfu> like the expensive one for freerunner. :)
<wpwrak> have you seen jon's m1 travel case ? with projector, etc. ?
<wpwrak> (freerunner case) oh dear. you saw that one too ? ;-)
<xiangfu> jon's m1 case. yes. I saw once. but didn't open it. so only know what is like.
<xiangfu> (freerunner case) only in picture. :(
<wpwrak> there was something even crazier - and external gps antenna. sean presented it to harald and me when i first visited taipei. that thing came with something like 5 m of cable !
<wpwrak> s/and/an/
<wpwrak> jon's travel case is nice, though. very compact.
<wpwrak> but shipping such a box would be $$$
<wpwrak> in general, it should be possible to find such cases at places where they sell musical instruments or also at places where they sell cameras. there are several types. some have movable rubberized wall elements. these are nice and modular but have limited flexibility.
<wpwrak> others just have two big blocks of foam and you have to cut it according to your needs. these are very flexible. but you have to know precisely what you want. well, maybe you can buy the foam separately. should be relatively inexpensive.
<GitHub40> [milkymist] sbourdeauducq pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/KXR0Wg
<GitHub40> [milkymist/master] standby: work around intermittent reconfiguration problem - Sebastien Bourdeauducq
<qi-bot> The Firmware build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-milkymist/milkymist-firmware-11282011-1210/
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