<xeno>
So, I'm trying to get threads on logs while I execute other things.
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<xeno>
I may just be executing the threads wrong, but I am also afraid I may need to force the thread to flush, or the tail to flush, though the latter seems unlikely.
<xeno>
I'm executing this on an Ubuntu system.
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<MJBrune>
... fuck me
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<MJBrune>
http://pastebin.com/zmRWymFd first one to see the moronic error I made that drove me crazy for 6 minutes now
<MJBrune>
... wins
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<Riking>
ti is a new variable
<Riking>
you wanted t1, right
<Riking>
MJBrune, do i win?
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<RubyTitmouse>
It would take a big prize to get me clicking on pastebin lol
<Riking>
i have adblock, don't matter to me
<Riking>
it's kinda nice to go back and look at everything i've pasted
<RubyTitmouse>
I have adblock and noscript, how is that going to make me _less_ snobby?!
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<Riking>
I was referring to the fact that the site has ads
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<xeno>
It works for real for me when I put a t1 for the ti, but it's much less ugly when you put a sleep 1 in the loop.
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<xeno>
Or you can pipe standard out to grep IN
<xeno>
What is the point of it?
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<benzrf>
why isnt do after while a syntax error?
<benzrf>
>> while true do puts "wat" end
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<MJBrune>
Riking: yes
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<RubyTitmouse>
benzrf: IMO it would be less confusing if it let you use a {} block
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<RubyTitmouse>
the do is sortof a lie, but if {} was allowed, it would be a good lie
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<RubyTitmouse>
STDOUT.sync = true
<RubyTitmouse>
that will autoflush, no idea if that helps, I avoid threads like the complex plague they are (fork+IPC is less complex and usually superior)
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<xeno>
RubyTitmouse
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<RubyTitmouse>
peep
<xeno>
I haven't gotten flushing to work.
<xeno>
I'll go try again...
<xeno>
Oh, I'm sorry. I already knew that.
<xeno>
The problem isn't the file getting the data. The problem is the thread seeing it.
<RubyTitmouse>
You probably have to have the threads do lots of waiting around if you don't want them to be racing
<xeno>
If I tail in a separate shell, I see the output.
<xeno>
But from the thread, I don't get it.
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<xeno>
What I am doing is setting up tails of logs, then I run a command, and after that I want to join my tail threads.
<xeno>
But these cannot be Ruby tail objects because I am doing it over an ssh connection executed on a `shellcmd`.
<RubyTitmouse>
if you form and use IPC you can just block on reading/writing the IPC sockets
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<RubyTitmouse>
s/form/fork/
<xeno>
No, I need to use tail like:
<xeno>
ssh u@host tail /var/log/syslog
<RubyTitmouse>
so? that should be easy
<xeno>
But my present test, as you can see, is local.
<xeno>
And the local thread doesn't continue getting the data from the tail.
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<xeno>
So it appears the main thing I need to do is make that example see the tail data that is in fact there. I need to tail inside...
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<RubyTitmouse>
I don't see how your problem benefits from the complexity of thread management
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<xeno>
Oh, the problem is I want to automate the logs to run threads of tails in a program instead of interactively, which is tedious.
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<Nowaker>
xeno: you cant do it like you wrote
<xeno>
I believe it.
<xeno>
Can you recommend a new and improved way to try?
<Nowaker>
you should use popen if i remember correctly the name
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<xeno>
The main thing is I need to start the tail before another command, and end the tail thread after said subject command ends.
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<xeno>
I'll look up popen. JAM....
<Nowaker>
using var = 'tail -f file' means var will be there after tail command exits. and tail -f never exits.
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<Nowaker>
thats why you need popen that you will instruct to fetch every new line and do something with it
<lagweezle>
After doing a search on the web, it looks like `tail blahblah` waits until tail actually finishes the file and exits. Because you specify -... oh. What Nowaker said.
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<lagweezle>
Ooh. Caltrain time. See you folks on the other side.
<xeno>
Okay, I'm gonna try it with popen. I'll try to get results quickly.
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<benzrf>
bye
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<Riking>
rate these statements 1-3 disagree←→agree:
<Riking>
Ruby and Rails don't have the history of total anarchy that PHP does for a couple reasons.
<Riking>
(1) Rails didn't exist ten years ago. (2) Rails is a framework that is meant to deliver clean code, and nobody used Ruby before Rails.
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<centrx>
(3) PHP is an abomination and a scourge on the face of the earth.
<centrx>
(4) PHP was designed and maintained by dimwits
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<Riking>
the man's argument is that Rails is the reason that ruby code doesn't suck
<Riking>
I'm kinda meh on the agree/disagree of that
<centrx>
That is not true
<centrx>
Ruby 1.8 was released in 2003, before Rails
<centrx>
Ruby was a good language before Rails ever existed
<Riking>
(this was posted a year ago)
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<Riking>
(so now it has been around 10 years)
<Riking>
actually, yeah, i kinda disagree, after reading more stuff on the thread
<bnagy>
well 4 is absolutely true
<Riking>
^
<benzrf>
php is the worst thing in the world
<bnagy>
however rails isn't looking too hot lately either
<Riking>
hm?
<Riking>
ooh, took me a sec
<bnagy>
and I expect it will only get worse now a few good security guys are taking a serious interest
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<streblo1>
I keep getting the error "Your Ruby version is 1.8.7, but your Gemfile specified 2.1.0" on OSX. Is there a way to fix this without using rvm?
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<Riking>
gem something something update
<Riking>
uh
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<Riking>
gem install rubygems-update
<bnagy>
install a reasonable version of ruby
<bnagy>
without using rvm
<Riking>
then run update_rubygems
<Riking>
streblo1, ^
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<Riking>
i think that's right
<streblo1>
does rubygems-update install update_rubygems?
<Riking>
yeh
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<centrx>
As an experiment, I have now joined ##php, #python, and #Node.js
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<skyjumper>
what's the experiment
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<centrx>
skyjumper, What do you think it should be
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<skyjumper>
judge the culture of the language's users
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<havenwood>
centrx: compare percent of norse versus saxon origin English words
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<havenwood>
centrx: amounts of swearing graphed against +1s
<havenwood>
centrx: how often each chan mentions the other langs
<centrx>
These are good
<havenwood>
centrx: amount of people banned
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<centrx>
I was thinking of a more a subjective experiment. I will add the science later to suit my impressions
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<havenwood>
centrx: compare the overlap of people in the irc channels, with VIN diagrams
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<centrx>
"omg python is making me feel like an idiot!!!"
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<benzrf>
i think #python tends to be more formal than #ruby def
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<benzrf>
havenwood: why not euler diagrams?
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* benzrf
has gained 1 pedantry point!
<havenwood>
benzrf: mm, good ;)
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<skyjumper>
centrx: ask the same generic coding question in all channels, see what kind of resopnses you get
<centrx>
That's a good idea
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<havenwood>
venn**
<havenwood>
>.>
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<agent_white>
We are tigrmesh. One of us.
<centrx>
Before I asked "What is the latest X news?". Python: Zen answer of "Yes" - Node.js: Linked to the blog on the official Node.js website - PHP: No response
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<agent_white>
mt.
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<agent_white>
centrx: Ask a trivial question and see what happens.
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<centrx>
I have a question
<centrx>
When I do print Hello I get an error?
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<benzrf>
go on...
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<centrx>
"Are you using Python 3" - "What's that?"
<centrx>
Ooo I am good
<skyjumper>
trolling on the downlow
<benzrf>
=_=
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<centrx>
Okay, #python wins this round
<centrx>
Node.js people are berating me, PHP channel is dead
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<centrx>
"how are you trying to print hello" - "print Hello?" - "why would that work?" - "cause it prints hello?"
<centrx>
NO HELP AT ALL FROM #ruby
<centrx>
God you guys
<benzrf>
kek kek kek
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<centrx>
"print is not part of javascript"
<louism2wash>
Hey guys, noob question, if I have code broken up into multiple files all in the same directory how do I load those files from inside a class so I can call methods?
<centrx>
"print hello also is not part of javascript"
<benzrf>
louism2wash: just use require
<centrx>
Learn something new every day
<skyjumper>
i wanna see this played out on the vi and emacs channels
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<benzrf>
vim woo woo
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<centrx>
That is a brilliant idea!
<louism2wash>
benzrf: thanks, it's not working so I must be doing something wrong
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<louism2wash>
benzrf: to the docs!!!
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<centrx>
"Hi, my hands have been getting really cramped from pressing Ctrl-X this Ctrl-M that all the time. What should I do?"
<skyjumper>
ahah
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<centrx>
Wow these guys are on the ball, I got three different answers in 5 seconds
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<skyjumper>
"can someone recommend the best keyboard for this editor"
<louism2wash>
benzrf: it works when I use load instead of require…. any ideas
<skyjumper>
"i really need top efficiency"
<centrx>
Although the first answer was "Try a different editor", so even they don't like emacs
<centrx>
"Hi, I opened up vim but it is frozen?"
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<centrx>
I don't know, I am starting to feel bad
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<centrx>
Now the vim guys are ragging on vim!
<centrx>
What is this
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<agent_white>
Hahah.
<louism2wash>
benzrf: I had to use require './filename' rather than '/filename'
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<agent_white>
I like it here because my trivial questions don't spawn circlejerks :)
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<xeno>
Well, so far all the popen examples I find are crappy. If anyone has a good one I'd appreciate it.
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<xeno>
So, that doesn't work either. There must be some simple thing that works.
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<xeno>
The worst thing on the planet is an apparently simple operation that nobody has any idea how to do.
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<bnagy>
I don't think you want to use capture3 for tail -f
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<bnagy>
just popen3 and then blat lines as you read them off stdout
<jwest>
xeno: flori.github.io/file-tail/ ?
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<xeno>
No, I need ANY output, not just tail. I need something that reads what there, then blocks waiting for more until it is made to exit.
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<xeno>
If pipeline on open3 would just block that might do it.
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<xeno>
I'm sorry. The problem is, though Pipeline DOES block it re-executes every time so you get overlapping output.
<bnagy>
xeno: popen3
<bnagy>
then loop
<xeno>
No, that didn't do it...well I'll try again..
<xeno>
Perhaps...
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<hypnosb>
join #networking
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<bnagy>
xeno: meh seems to work fine for me
<bnagy>
Open3.popen3("tail -f ~/scratch/blah") {|si,so,se| so.each {|l| puts l}} is what I did in irb
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<xeno>
Okay,, that might do it. It does seem to work. Thank you bnagy. I'd better go catch my bus. Sorry guys. Thanks!
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<bnagy>
np
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<agent_white>
How would I compare sub-elements in a vector? I'm trying to find out if rows have comparable values. Implemented the 2d array as `Array.new(3) { Array.new(3) }`
<bnagy>
use Vector
<bnagy>
or Matrix, or whatever
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<agent_white>
Ah damn. So there's no way to do this as it's setup now?
<bnagy>
probably?
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<bnagy>
but why, if you want a Matrix use matrix
<centrx>
No, if you want a matrix use Matrix
<agent_white>
bnagy: I'll change it to that, but now I'm just curious! :P
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<centrx>
agent_white, You can see how Matrix does it, it is in Ruby
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<bnagy>
centrx: require 'matrix'; m = Matrix.new
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<centrx>
hmmm
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<centrx>
touche
<bnagy>
my caps win yours sux
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* bnagy
victory lap
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<bnagy>
TigerWolf: it's a lexical comparison, it's like when you look stuff up in a dictionary
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<TigerWolf>
sweet, thanks
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<bnagy>
micho: dunno what you're using, some testing thing, I guess, but maybe it only stubs rand() and not rand(n)
<TigerWolf>
now I understand why this code doesnt work and whoever coded it didnt take this into consideration. Duh, Types are important.
<micho>
bnagy: it's RSpec
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<bnagy>
is that some testing thing?
<pipecloud>
bnagy: What is testing?
<pipecloud>
TigerWolf: When you say types are important, what do you mean?
<micho>
bnagy: yes, it is. I try to set the rand() to always return 1.5
<bnagy>
WOO FIVE FOR FIVE
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<bnagy>
micho: normal rand() returns [0,1) afaik
<micho>
it should be super simple, but it's 4 am here, and I have no idea why it does not work
<pipecloud>
My rand functions always return 12.
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<micho>
bnagy: you're right, but I call it rand(1.2..1.8)
<TigerWolf>
I mean pipecloud to not run .min or .max on an array of string, but to convert everything in that array to int or float if thats what you actually want to compare.
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<pipecloud>
TigerWolf: Why does the type matter? Doesn't it matter that they all quack appropriately?
<bnagy>
micho: so my hypothesis, although I'm just guessing, is that rand() and rand(range) and rand(n) don't all get stubbed
<pipecloud>
micho: Try to find out where the rand method comes from.
<micho>
bnagy: I am just checking it now
<bnagy>
micho: you could try, for example, hi*rand() + lo
<bnagy>
see if it's any different
<pipecloud>
TigerWolf: Sounds like, rather than ensuring type, you could ensure that they all respond to certain methods like #to_i before calling #max on the collection.
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<TigerWolf>
pipecloud: dont quite understand what you are trying to say. A price should never be compared as a string.
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<pipecloud>
TigerWolf: Well, it's less about caring about types and more about validation of data and adhering to an expected interface. You'll go far if you think like that rather than thinking about types.
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<TigerWolf>
Yeah
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<louism2wash>
Hey guys, this might be a dumb question but which exceptions should I be rescuing? Should I just be working under the assumption that any that can go wrong, can and will, so it's better to be safe than sorry?
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<bnagy>
you probably only want to rescue StandardError children
<bnagy>
like, RuntimeError blah blah blah
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<bnagy>
mainly what I mean is don't rescue Exception ( all exceptions )
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<louism2wash>
bnagy: ok, so it sounds like other than system errors I should be rescuing almost everything…. i.e. errors that arise from my code, invalid user input, network connection issues, etc
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<bnagy>
I prefer to have fairly tight rescue scenarios, though
<slowcon>
currently writing a script that goes to a forum and saves some information like Post title and Port URL. would you suggest saving these to a .csv, or database?
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<havenwood>
slowcon: If you're going to use a flat file, maybe look at Psych::Store or PStore (YAML or Marshall, respectively). Or a database.
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<n88>
slowcon: just write straight to a db
<tamouse__>
slowcon: it really depends on how you intend to use it after that
<havenwood>
slowcon: Redis. Next question!
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<n88>
if you are planning on LOAD DATA INFILE'ing the csv into a db... just pull it into the db in the first place
<tamouse__>
redis is always the answer
<slowcon>
hahaha
<slowcon>
the file will be used to check against links so it doesn't download them agai
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<slowcon>
probably database
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<slowcon>
is mysql with ruby hard
<havenwood>
slowcon: the redis gem with Redis or sequel gem with Sqlite are both easy
<n88>
slowcon: mysql is really easy as well
<n88>
writing data to it through ruby as we speak
<havenwood>
slowcon: no harder than outside of ruby
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<tamouse__>
lets heave to, centrx !
<tamouse__>
midnite code revies
<tamouse__>
reviews*
<slowcon>
havenwood: bookmarked
<tamouse__>
crikey, that'd be an awesome podcast if you got the right people together
<agent_white>
centrx: Well, one example is enough. To set an element, you either use `Matrix.send :[]=, col, row, val`, or open the class and define your own method.
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<agent_white>
No way, Matrix[i][j] = k would be FAR too easy!
<agent_white>
D:
<centrx>
agent_white, Oh, a Matrix is like an Integer constant
<agent_white>
centrx: Fuck dude I'm just building tic-tac-toe.
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<centrx>
agent_white, It is designed so that if you want to change the matrix, you create/transform into a _new_ one
<centrx>
agent_white, Like if you wanted to change the number 10 into 20, you would not have some scheme where you do 10[0] = 2 to change the first digit of the integer
<kiba>
HI, I am still working on my survival analysis project
<kiba>
thanks anybody who's still supporting me via gittip despite no words from me for weeks...
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<nighter>
Hi, I use bundle package all to package some gems for an ruby application. In the vendor folder it says "vendor/ruby/1.9.1/ .." why does it default to an specific ruby version? To I need to add something in my Gemfile?
<pipecloud>
nighter: It uses the version directory for your ruby version.
<pipecloud>
If it's 1.9, it always goes into 1.9.1, backwards compatibility crap.
<pipecloud>
"If it's 1.9, it always goes into 1.9.1, backwards compatibility crap."
<nighter>
aha ok
<nighter>
how do I resolve that the application does not seems to works since it depends on 1.9.1 of ruby
<nighter>
as it seems.
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<pipecloud>
it doesn't.
<pipecloud>
Ruby 1.9.x looks in 1.9.1 for gems
<pipecloud>
All is well.
<pipecloud>
Even if it's a bit confusing. :(
<tamouse__>
carry on
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<nighter>
Sorry had to leave for a meeting. Hmm maybe not that's the issue then I try to start the application and check the error message I just thought it was ruby version isuses. I have no experience with ruby just the developers come to me because they can't sort this out themself. :(
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<nighter>
vendor/bundle/ruby/1.9.1/gems/kgio-2.8.1/lib/kgio.rb:21:in `require': libruby.so.1.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
<nighter>
hmm maybe is not the ruby version issue just it can't find that shared object file.
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<nighter>
ahh thinks I know whats wrong
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<tongcx_>
hi guys, in sinatra, what is 'stream'? a class, a function?
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<agent_white>
A stream is a river of data. A class holds behavior and attributes. A function is an action.
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<agent_white>
Don't listen to me. I may be speaking from my buttocks.
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<pipecloud>
tongcx_: It's a body of water in motion.
<pipecloud>
tongcx_: Ruby doesn't have 'functions', it has methods.
<tongcx_>
right, but i cannot find the definition of 'stream' in the code
<agent_white>
pipecloud: Is that just terminology difference? Or 'deeper' than that?
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<tongcx_>
pipecloud: thanks for the second link
<pipecloud>
agent_white: what do you mean?
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<agent_white>
Well in my C++ course we called them functions. But in Java we called them methods. I always figured it was two different ways to say the same thing?
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<pipecloud>
agent_white: methods are functions bound to an object.
<ryanf>
it depends on the language
<ryanf>
but yeah, that's the reasoning for ruby calling them methods afaik
<pipecloud>
A method is a kind of function, but not all functions are method.
<pipecloud>
methods
<ryanf>
a proc in ruby is not a method, but it's a function
<pipecloud>
agent_white: They're functions whose first implicit argument is self, which is the object.
<pipecloud>
ryanf: Well, a proc is an object.
<pipecloud>
And proc is a method, is it not?
<ryanf>
everything* is an object
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<workmad3>
ryanf: you could also argue that a proc is an anonymous method implicitly bound to 'self' in the context it was created ;)
<pipecloud>
There's very few things in ruby that aren't objects.
<tobiasvl>
agent_white: you can read up on "pure functional programming" (only has functions) and "object oriented programming" (usually has methods) for the difference. ruby is "multi-paradigm" so it can do both to some extent
<pipecloud>
workmad3: created or the binding in which it was called?
<ryanf>
workmad3: yeah, that's fair, but not the terminology ruby uses
<pipecloud>
Because you can change the binding of a proc.
<ryanf>
like I said, function vs method or whatever is really just language-specific terminology I think, with some vague shared conceptual stuff
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<pipecloud>
tobiasvl: That's not quite the same.
<ryanf>
for example, methods in clojure have nothing to do with objects
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<workmad3>
pipecloud: yeah, but then it's explicit... and you can do that with methods too
<workmad3>
(ish)
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<pipecloud>
You can write your methods in a functional nature but it's still a method.
<pipecloud>
workmad3: It's explicit in the C code too.
<pipecloud>
Whose level of abstraction are we playing by here?
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<workmad3>
pipecloud: C code doesn't have receivers at all, implicit or explicit (as there are no objects in C)
<agent_white>
Keep going, this is feeding my curiousity hahah.
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<pipecloud>
workmad3: There's structs which are your 'object' and functions are called with the explicit argument of the struct.
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<pipecloud>
agent_white: We're just playing joust-with-e-peenor
<workmad3>
^^
<pipecloud>
agent_white: Anyways, a method is a function that belongs to an object. It's a type of function.
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<agent_white>
pipecloud: It's entertaining! :D
<workmad3>
pipecloud: I'd suggest that structs are conceptually different to objects, so going that low in your abstraction is going too far
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<pipecloud>
workmad3: They're the closest thing to objects in C.
<workmad3>
pipecloud: and I'd also suggest that what you described is how you do 'object-style' coding in C, rather than them being objects
<workmad3>
pipecloud: in the same way you can do functional-style stuff in ruby, but (mostly) you're not dealing with functions :)
<pipecloud>
workmad3: I'm pretty sure even the special C bible calls them objects at some point.
<agent_white>
Hearing "C does not have classes" and "Structs are the closest thing to objects that C has" is frightening. But I've been wanting to learn it for some time.
<pipecloud>
I don't have the K&R book on hand to search and quote.
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<pipecloud>
workmad3: The point is that the metaphor only reaches so far anways. Functions aren't the lowest turtle on the stack.
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<workmad3>
pipecloud: ah, you mean the comment about 'not first class objects'?
<pipecloud>
agent_white: Anyways, do you get the point?
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<agent_white>
pipecloud/ryanf/tobiasvl/workmad3: Thank ya for the knowledge though :D
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<pipecloud>
workmad3: Yeah, usually when someone says "something, unlike something else, is not a thing" they usually mean that the something else is that thing.
<workmad3>
pipecloud: I take that to be using 'object' in the sense of 'object as generic term for thing' rather than 'object as in Object Oriented Programming'
<agent_white>
pipecloud: Yup! A function is an classless(ish) action?
<workmad3>
pipecloud: it's an overloaded term
<pipecloud>
agent_white: Look up 'first class functions' to see what normal functions are like. Python has them. That's why python methods actually pass self.
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<pipecloud>
workmad3: It's one K&R uses, and that's the C bible.
<workmad3>
pipecloud: yes, but that doesn't mean that object in that sense == object in OO sense
<pipecloud>
workmad3: So?
<workmad3>
pipecloud: it means that you're trying to change the meaning of a phrase behind the scenes
<pipecloud>
It's an object, an encapsulation of data. Functions can be bound to that object making them methods. Sure they dont' hide data.
<workmad3>
pipecloud: because two concepts are (annoyingly) represented by the same string of characters
<pipecloud>
workmad3: Not really. If anything, OO changed structs being objects.
<pipecloud>
workmad3: OO is the interloper here.
<workmad3>
pipecloud: most likely, but that doesn't alter anything about what I just said
<pipecloud>
workmad3: I'm just saying that my use takes precedence.
<workmad3>
pipecloud: that still doesn't alter anything
<pipecloud>
workmad3: I apologize that the world slighted you by overloading a term.
<workmad3>
pipecloud: it didn't slight me
<pipecloud>
You seem rustled.
<workmad3>
pipecloud: you're just trying to argue a point by changing definition halfway through an argument (which is what is annoying :P)
<agent_white>
pipecloud: So Ruby has first-class functions too?
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<pipecloud>
agent_white: Negative.
<workmad3>
pipecloud: anyway, I'd guess we've taken the discussion far enough ;)
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<pipecloud>
One can never go far enough, only sober up too much. :(
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<agent_white>
pipecloud: I'll have to read up on it... I just opened irb and defined 'first_name', 'last_name' functions that returned strings, and a 'full_name' function. Passed those two to the latter and it worked?
<agent_white>
I'll wiki a bit more though. ;D
<pipecloud>
agent_white: Those are methods on the Main object instance.
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<pipecloud>
Err main instance of Object
<pipecloud>
agent_white: `self` is main, which has a `self.class` of Object.
<pipecloud>
It's an instance of object.
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<pipecloud>
Object*
<agent_white>
Main always exists as long as code does?
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<agent_white>
pipecloud: Ohhh I see mean there.
<pipecloud>
Well, it exists as long as any other object tends to exist.
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<agent_white>
**I see what you mean. accidentally a there
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<workmad3>
pipecloud: ok - then in the vein of beating a dead pony... when we seem to be in agreement about what a term means I'll leave it be... but when it seems that we've reached a disagreement, I'll tend to clarify with what I was referring to... to then try a bait-and-switch on the definition and claim that 'your definition has precedence' is annoying, frustrating and completely irrelevant... which definition 'came first' doesn't
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<pipecloud>
workmad3: It's almost as if you're stuck in a state of now and disregard context in order to further your correct assertion that words may have multiple meanings, much to your chagrin.
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<workmad3>
pipecloud: I'm not the one who tried a bait and switch here ;)
<agent_white>
agent_white -> "well... I made it print 'hello'..."
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<pipecloud>
workmad3: Just saiyan.
<pipecloud>
agent_white: print is a method.
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<pipecloud>
IO I believe.
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<workmad3>
pipecloud: tbh, I'm not really sure what you said in that last instance... it seemed to me to be mostly devoid of meaning
<pipecloud>
workmad3: It was complaining about your disregard for pedantry.
<agent_white>
Because it nationless?! Sounds like a citizen of mother earth to me :D
<workmad3>
pipecloud: huh? if anything, I was being pedantic to the extreme there!
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<workmad3>
pipecloud: I was being pedantic about when it's allowable to be pedantic about word choices!
<agent_white>
So in general: Functions just hippies who chill with everyone, while methods are hipsters who need a posse to know how to act?
<pipecloud>
agent_white: For the most part.
<tobiasvl>
lol
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<agent_white>
Sweet. Functional programming sounds different to say the least haha.
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<jomofcw>
Hello !
<jomofcw>
I still have this problem trying to install JSON module require by Redmine : http://pastebin.com/bqGt6tkQ , any idea about a fix ? Please.
<maasha>
Without going into to much detail, here is a funny observation from a Unit Test: <"foobar"> expected but was <"102\n111\n111\n98\n97\n114\n">. How did that happen? :o)
<LadyRainicorn>
(Unless you want to return a specific value instead of raising an exception, in which case use catch/throw.)
* maasha
thinks it is an artifact from msgpack
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<LadyRainicorn>
Maybe you forgot to unpack something?
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<dagobah>
LadyRainicorn: I want to just leave the block but continue running anything else.. raise just bombs out.
<maasha>
LadyRainicorn: maybe, but it is still a strange string. msgpacked foobar is different.
<LadyRainicorn>
Probably have to look at the code then.
<LadyRainicorn>
dagobah: catch/throw may be what you want..
<dagobah>
LadyRainicorn: Thanks, I'll take a look.
<maasha>
Ok, its not presentable at the moment. Just wondering if anyone had seen such before.
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<LadyRainicorn>
dagobah: It looks like an numbers.join("\n")
<LadyRainicorn>
Are you doing that anywhere?
<LadyRainicorn>
Oh, but there's a newline at the end.
<LadyRainicorn>
Maybe a StringIO?
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<maasha>
LadyRainicorn: yes, its StringIO
<maasha>
.o0(does StringIO insert \n all over strings?)
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<LadyRainicorn>
No, but stringio.puts(str) will.
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<LadyRainicorn>
Which is presumably what's occurring.
<maasha>
LadyRainicorn: Ah, that is probably it.
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<olivier_bK>
i use a curl command for pass mysql migration on my instance but sometimes the instance has already the last migration and i want to get this in my script
<olivier_bK>
do you have an idea how i can do that
<olivier_bK>
,?
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<LadyRainicorn>
olivier_bK: That sounds incoherent, but more importantly something that belongs in #RubyOnRails
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<olivier_bK>
euhh ...
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<alex88>
is there a shorter way to @var.elem1 = othervar[:elem1]; @var.elem2 = othervar[:elem2]; @var.elem3 = othervar[:elem3]; ... ?
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<sikor_sxe>
hello, can i use proc composition with .first?
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<sikor_sxe>
in map i can use "&:first" and it works, however i am not able to compose functions like this. "firstIsAString = isAString * &:first" (the proc class has been extended by the * operator)
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<whowantstolivefo>
does anyone around used shoes.rb ?
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<dachi>
whowhatstolivefo #shoes
<whowantstolivefo>
dachi: thank you
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<LadyRainicorn>
When did Proc get *?
<LadyRainicorn>
At 2.1.0 it doesn't work.
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<sikor_sxe>
LadyRainicorn, i extended it myself
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<LadyRainicorn>
Ah I see.
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<LadyRainicorn>
&:first only works in method calls.
<LadyRainicorn>
(& is actually passing it as the block)
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<sikor_sxe>
"firstIsAString = isAString * :first.to_proc" works seems to work :/
<LadyRainicorn>
You need to use .to_proc for that to work.
<sikor_sxe>
ahhh :)
<sikor_sxe>
block/proc fuzzyness, sry i am new to ruby
<LadyRainicorn>
(only if you accept a block will that work, though)
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<puppeh>
anyone here used tmm1's oobgc?
<puppeh>
for 2.1
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<kamsky>
hi guys, I installed RVM in a fresh linux VM. Then I installed the latest version of ruby and just in case an old 1.9.3 one. After creating a new gemset I went ahead and installed Ciphersurfer (https://github.com/thesp0nge/ciphersurfer), no errors and it seemed to install all the dependencies (including rainbow). But when I try to run it it keeps s
<kamsky>
aying the color method is undefined (it belongs to the rainbow gem). I've tried running IRB, requiring rainbow (successfully) and then calling that method and I get the same error.. any idea?
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<edbond>
kamsky, post error and gem versions
<edbond>
I meant backtrace
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<edbond>
you may want to require that in your code before Ciphersurfer
<kamsky>
that makes sense
<edbond>
and create an issue for Ciphersurfer
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<supersym>
can anyone tell me the difference in asciidoc and asciidoctor in the way they terminate the stdin it receives?
<supersym>
when I test it from the cli, both have the dash - as means of processing the asciidoc input
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<supersym>
but asciidoctor terminates on ^D
<supersym>
and asciidoc doesn't
<tamouse__>
is this a ruby question?
<supersym>
isn't it a ruby lib? :P
<tamouse__>
i don't konw
<tamouse__>
i thought asciidoc was a format
<supersym>
haha ... well atleast as far as the gems go, trying to update the redmine plugin wrapper but its using open3 so thats why
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<supersym>
asciidoc indeed is
<lectrick>
Can anyone explain what happens when a process with an open socket is forked? What happens to that socket and how is it not clobbered by child processes?
<lectrick>
Is there like an automatic mutex on the socket?
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<lectrick>
or the file descriptor, whatever?
<supersym>
I don't think that is a good idea
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<LadyRainicorn>
lectrick: No.
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<LadyRainicorn>
It would be the same as if you used a thread.
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<tamouse__>
when you fork, the child process has it's own copy of the parent's descriptors
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<lectrick>
LadyRainicorn: Basically, my question is "how does Unicorn not have to manage socket access at the process level" lol. I believe it takes advantage of unix-layer stuff...
<tamouse__>
there are no mutexes
<lectrick>
so 2+ processes could read from or write to the socket at the same time and clobber each other?
<bahar>
hey guys, i'm stumped on something... how do i extract numbers from a bigger number... say, if i had 3962 and i wanted just the first 2 characters, 39 (or the last 2 characters, 62)? first thing i tried 3962[0..1] which obviously didn't work, and a bunch of other tries after that didn't work either. any suggestions?
<LadyRainicorn>
lectrick: Yes.
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<tamouse__>
bahar: make it into a string first?
<LadyRainicorn>
bahar: 3692.div(10**2)
<tamouse__>
or the mathsy way
<LadyRainicorn>
Or, more generally, x.div(10**(Math.log(x, 10).ceil-2))
<bahar>
i tried that, this way: .to_s.scan(/\d/).map {|i| i.to_i} but that was no go
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<bahar>
.div(10**2) works though, returns 39
<LadyRainicorn>
(The first one will only work on 4 digit numbers btw.)
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<LadyRainicorn>
Making it into a string is stupid.
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<LadyRainicorn>
It's not a string question.
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<tamouse__>
might be
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<bahar>
3962.div(10**2)
<LadyRainicorn>
bahar: x.div(10**(Math.log(x, 10).ceil-2)) if you want it to work on anything but 4 digit numbers.
<tamouse__>
depends on how the result is to be used
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<bahar>
what about the last 2 digits?
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<LadyRainicorn>
x % 1e2
<lectrick>
I don't think a string conversion is necessarily "bad" just because you can do it with math. I think it's based on the question and if the question is "the first 2 characters" or "the last 2 characters", that's a very string-y problem.
<LadyRainicorn>
Err, 10**2
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<LadyRainicorn>
Do you want a string or a number as the result?
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<bahar>
a number
<bahar>
if i got a string i'd have convert it back to a fixnm
<LadyRainicorn>
Then converting it to a string is bad.
<tamouse__>
then maths
<LadyRainicorn>
Also log is a cheaper than to_s.
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<bahar>
sorry, LadyRainicorn, 10**2?
<LadyRainicorn>
100
<LadyRainicorn>
(1e2 would return a float)
<bahar>
div(10**(Math.log(x, 10).ceil-2)) works on 4 digit numbers too
<bahar>
returns the first two numbers
<bahar>
still trying to figure out last two
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<LadyRainicorn>
def last_digits(num, places) num % 10**places; end
<LadyRainicorn>
bahar: modulo gives the last digits.
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<LadyRainicorn>
First requires the more complex one with log I gave.
<bahar>
i thought it gave the remainder?
<LadyRainicorn>
That's the same thing.
<LadyRainicorn>
(well, if 10**digits)
<LadyRainicorn>
You can replace 10 for any other base and these still work.
<bahar>
ahhhhh
<bahar>
awesome. thanks
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<supersym>
Ooh.... 'pry' is really nice ^^
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<catphish>
i'm having trouble with remote port forwards not working in net::ssh, i can't explain the problem very well, there are no exceptions raised, but the forwarding just doesn't get started, local forwarding works fine, and the same remote forward works fine using command line ssh
<catphish>
the net::ssh documentation says "If the remote server is not able to begin the listener for this request, an exception will be raised asynchronously." but i don't know how to receive the exception (if there is one)
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<TheLarkInn>
Anyone a fan of the HTTP request and parse gem Mechanize?
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<tamouse__>
i use it a bit
<TheLarkInn>
I've got an api I want to test out but requires I set a header variable X-API-VERSION to 2.
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<TheLarkInn>
Have you ever done this before?
<tamouse__>
sorry, no
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<TheLarkInn>
Yeah I wasn't too sure myself.
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<TheLarkInn>
I saw agent.headers=
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<TheLarkInn>
but it doesn't work like I expected
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<TheLarkInn>
I'm guessing there is some way to specify it with mechanize
<tamouse__>
i think you want request_headers, not headers
<tamouse__>
not sure, tho
<redintellect>
Hi. sorry to bother you, I need some resource to start learning ruby, what do you suggest?
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<TheLarkInn>
oh yeah request_headers, sorry yeah
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<tamouse__>
redintellect: what is your general history with programming?
<TheLarkInn>
well it looks like a hash so maybe I set the X-API-VERSION as a string key
<tamouse__>
that should do it, TheLarkInn
<redintellect>
tamouse__, I have python, c and c++ experience.
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<TheLarkInn>
Sweet it worked tamouse__ thanks for the encouragement
<tamouse__>
sure
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<tamouse__>
redintellect: i'd avoid the hand-holding sites like codeacademy, etc
<TheLarkInn>
I always suggest www.codecademy.com, it might start iff slow for the existing programmer, but there are some core concepts which I believe everyone should revisit.
<TheLarkInn>
BAHAH
<tamouse__>
go for the pickaxe book, latest edition
<TheLarkInn>
we said opposite things at the same time
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<tamouse__>
my main issue with those sites is that you must enter *exactly* what they expect
<tamouse__>
even though what you enter may be correct and even better ruby
<tamouse__>
they're just robots
<redintellect>
I see.
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<tamouse__>
but, really, that's entirely my personal opinion based upon how i learn
<TheLarkInn>
Oh yeah, I agree with you tamouse__
<tamouse__>
so do take that with a huge grain of salt
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<TheLarkInn>
Or just understand that since you are coming from c, c+, and python that there are 13124124 magical ways of doing the same thing in ruby
<redintellect>
I see.
<TheLarkInn>
I find that for me, I have always wanted use the language to accomplish something, so is there something specifically you want to accomplish?
<redintellect>
Thank you for your help.
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<TheLarkInn>
np
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<aq>
Hello everyone. So I'm working on a little project trying to pick up ruby and I'm getting an error on lines 18 and 24 saying "unexpected tIDENTIFIER, expecting keyword_end". I think I have all my ends in the right place though. I stripped the function down to basically nothing but still get the error. Anyone wanna point out where I'm screwing up? http://pastebin.com/qeQVa55L
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<elaptics>
aq: you can't start variable names with a number
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<elaptics>
change your 3x3 variable name to something else
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<aq>
Oh, wow, thanks elaptics! That was dumb of me. I just kept looking at the "end"s trying to figure out why the error was talking about that.
<aq>
Thanks!
<elaptics>
np :)
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<no0code>
hey people
<no0code>
greetings :)
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<shevy>
aq the error handling in ruby is not very good
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<no0code>
is datamapper (datamapper.org) still useable?
<shevy>
aq btw "if fill == true" is cleaner to be written as "if fill"
<no0code>
or is there a newer, better project?
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<aq>
thanks shevy!
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<no0code>
can someone tell me how i find data in a complex datamapper dataset?
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<workmad3>
no0code: datamapper2 got renamed as ROM (ruby object mapper) and is currently in development, I believe
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<no0code>
is rom stable to use?
<workmad3>
no0code: pass... I've yet to use it
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<no0code>
on their page is no documentation
<no0code>
so i stay at datamapper
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<no0code>
can someone tell me how i find a datasend in a nested dataset with has n and belongs to?
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<whowantstolivefo>
is there any tool else like shoesrb or hackety-hack ?
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<slowcon>
Astralum: hows your day so far
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<kiba>
George VI even volunteered to join the army to take part in the Normandy landings, although this was mostly a Batman Gambit to stop Churchill using his Prime Ministerial authority to reactivate his own commission and have himself ordered to take part.
<kiba>
O_o
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<kiba>
Edward II of England would hunt down bandits personally, on one occasion challenging a bandit leader to a joust, on condition that if the bandit lost he would give up his life of crime. The king won. Ultimately, however, he was more interested in bricklaying than fighting, and ended up being deposed and probably murdered.
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<cout>
what is a batman gambit?
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<kiba>
cout: whoops wrong channel. Look up batman gambit in tvtropes
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<linduxed>
is there no difference between %w[] and %w() ?
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<flujan>
hello guys. I wrote a simple app that receive connection on port 25000 and subscribe it to a Channel. I use a server on port 26000 to connect, and send messages to the 25000 subscribers... http://pastie.org/8709155
<flujan>
sometimes during the day, the server just stop sending data to the subscribers... how can I debug it?
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<jsilver>
logs
<flujan>
I am using event machine. Do you use it or recommend other software?
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<jsilver>
log when everything is done
<jsilver>
then when something breaks
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<jsilver>
go to the string next to what broke
<jsilver>
directly before or after
<jsilver>
then find the silently failing line
<jsilver>
gl
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<jsilver>
yes, I mean to add log lines EVERYWHERE
<jsilver>
as conservatively or liberally as you want
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<jsilver>
not literally every line
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<jsilver>
unless you want to
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<chrisbolton>
Trying to solve a kata and having trouble the test is seven(plus(five)) should return 12. But aliasing plus isn't working out as easy as I'd hoped. This is what I was thinking but it's not working ... https://gist.github.com/Iknewthisguy/8866186
<chrisbolton>
Any help would be appreciated.
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<havenwood>
>> def plus n; self + n end; [5.plus(5), 'this'.plus(' as well')]
<eval-in>
havenwood => private method `plus' called for 5:Fixnum (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/99054)
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<chrisbolton>
That's the same problem I was getting.
<chrisbolton>
Private method plus
<havenwood>
chrisbolton: When you monkey patch, don't do it in `main`.
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<chrisbolton>
I was testing in irb. Is that my problem?
<havenwood>
chrisbolton: so if you want to monkey patch a core class like Fixnum, go inside the class first: class Fixnum; def plus n end
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<chrisbolton>
havenwood: Awesome. Thanks. I'm going to go test. I appreciate your help.
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<havenwood>
flujan: Might want to look at kgio or nio4r and Celluloid::IO.
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<havenwood>
linduxed: [] and () are just two of many options, you can even do evil things like using a whitespace to begin and end.
<chrisbolton>
havenwood or anyone else. I'm getting undefined method 'times' for main:Object. Still working on understanding what I'm doing wrong. https://gist.github.com/Iknewthisguy/8866186
<evilbug>
what's the difference between single quotes and double quotes? is it just preference?
<havenwood>
LadyRainicorn: A space in place of "(" and ")" will work in irb but not evil-in.
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<havenwood>
evilbug: Just a stylistic preference. I prefer single unless interpolating as a general rule.
<havenwood>
chrisbolton: #times is already taken, a peril of monkeypatching core classes
<linduxed>
havenwood: thx for the info!
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<havenwood>
>> 3.times { puts 'I promise not to override existing core class methods!' }
<eval-in>
havenwood => I promise not to override existing core class methods! ... (https://eval.in/99069)
<evilbug>
havenwood: ok, thanks for that.
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<chrisbolton>
havenwood: I wouldn't if it weren't for this freaking kata.
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<jroes>
hey yall, I need to override the definition of a module method within a block context, what's the best way to do that, some sort of define_method magic?
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<jroes>
first attempt was something like def with_redefined; old_def = Module.method; Module.method = new_def; yield; ensure; Module.method = old_def; end
<jroes>
but that didn't work out because method= is not defined
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<LadyRainicorn>
Yes, define_method.
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<jroes>
LadyRainicorn: hm, I was trying some things with it, but the module definition is pretty janky
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<LadyRainicorn>
Alternatively, just reopen the module.
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<jroes>
hum, I think your shot is pretty similar to my first attempt with define_method, but I think what's confusing is how to access something that is defined in that weird way I mentioned above
<jroes>
what is the proper usage of method to get access to Module::FOO.bar
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<__r00t__>
I am not able include a ruby module by "require 'msf/core/constants'" . I am having a hard time replacing all include statements in config files with "require '/usr/share/metasploit-framework/lib/msf/core/constants'". Unfortunately, the script I am running is dependant on many modules. How do I fix this ?
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<jroes>
__r00t__: you probably need to fix the core of the problem, which is that your LOAD_PATH isn't set the way you need it
<jroes>
a standard require '...' will look for ruby code in the LOAD_PATH
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<patarr1>
hey guys. I'm having issues getting ruby running on my ubuntu box. After compiling and installing ruby 2.1, builder still thinks I have ruby 1.9.2
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<patarr1>
And so does gem. I downloaded the newest gem tgz, ruby setup.rb, and gem --version still proclaims 1.8 Any ideas?
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<JustinAiken>
how'd you compile/install ruby 2.1? What does "ruby -v" and "which ruby" say?
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<patarr1>
JustinAiken: configure, make, make install
<patarr1>
and ruby --version says 2.1
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<JustinAiken>
"which ruby" and "which gem" ?
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<patarr1>
both are in /usr/local/bin
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<streblo>
which bundler: /usr/local/opt/ruby/bin/bundler
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<streblo>
which bundle: /usr/bin/bundle
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<streblo>
uninstalling and reinstalling results in the same problem
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<shevy>
hehe
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<pimpthink>
hi guys
<pimpthink>
hi guys
<pimpthink>
Does anyone here tend to use a Ruby IDE?
<shevy>
the path /usr/local/opt/ruby/bin/bundler looks very messed up
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<shevy>
streblo where does your normal ruby binary reside?
<billiam>
pimpthink: I use rubymine, then everybody tells me I'm an idiot.
<dachi>
hi I use RubyMine
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<dachi>
and TextMate
<shevy>
billiam no you are not an idiot. after all you don't use vim or emacs
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<supersym>
streblo: thought about using rvm?
<pimpthink>
I have a project which I like to add small incremental changes to periodically - I currently use vim. Which I code well with - but having to read through all of the source files to recall the hierarchy
<streblo>
supersym: i really dont want to go down that route again
<supersym>
haha
<workmad3>
shevy: are you claiming that only idiots use vim or emacs?
<supersym>
I can understand ;)
<pimpthink>
each time I have 5 minutes spare to add something new... is a ridiculous overhead
<shevy>
workmad3 no, I don't claim it, it is merely stating a fact :)
<pimpthink>
shevy: what do you use?
<shevy>
pimpthink proudly bluefish 1.0.7 !
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<streblo>
shevy: i upgraded ruby using brew, and that changed the paths
<shevy>
they downgraded bluefish with their upgrades though so I am in need of a new editor eventually :( most likely sublime perhaps but it just doesn't feel the same
<workmad3>
shevy: heh :) I guess I'm an idiot then :P
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<shevy>
workmad3 I would never insinuate such!
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<shevy>
streblo hmm #machomebrew people are clever
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<workmad3>
shevy: I use vim
<supersym>
any redmine guru around by any chance?
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<workmad3>
shevy: by your previous statement, I am an idiot
<shevy>
workmad3 no need to embarass you now man!
<shevy>
workmad3 let's keep it a secret
<shevy>
we all have our dark past
<workmad3>
shevy: I'm not ashamed of it!
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<shevy>
I was using PHP and I am very ashamed of it :(
<workmad3>
shevy: I'm obviously too much of an idiot to feel such shame ;)
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<supersym>
I'm forced to use PHP for this stupid webshop of ours :(
<supersym>
I'm thinking to lobby for spree ;)
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<shevy>
supersym, what database do you use?
<supersym>
Special Magento hosting, MySQL InnoDB farm
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<shevy>
at work I am the only dude who sits in front of a windows PC (what were they thinking...), rest of the team works in linux environment. I am to use postgre to build something for the web (query taxonomical data from different species, and mix in a difference of genome data, proteome data and in-house assembly data)
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<shevy>
mysql! lucky you
<workmad3>
bleh, mysql
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<supersym>
lol
<workmad3>
postgres forevar!
<supersym>
Datomic FTW
<workmad3>
(well, until something better comes along :) )
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<billiam>
pimpthink: I use vim for infrequent editing. Aren't there plugins to help with that kind of navigation? Nerd Tree or some such?
<vpretzel>
shevy: They gave you the windows box as a way of saying "please leave"
<vpretzel>
that's how i take it when they give me window boxes
<pimpthink>
workmad3: yeah actually I never used postgres - my impression these days is that it has "caught up" with mysql, and serves pretty much as a better replacement altogether
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<workmad3>
pimpthink: tbh, it's always been pretty ahead of mysql except in terms of ease-of-install and support
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<shevy>
vpretzel yeah
<workmad3>
pimpthink: those two areas, it's now caught up with
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<lagweezle>
Whee. Work is intersing/fun today. :)
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<shevy>
vpretzel in fairness I should point out that they also offered to get a laptop for me (but they have to run through administrative crap which takes some days) and I was stupid enough to state "hey windows is fine, as long as I can use ruby" ......
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<pimpthink>
workmad3: I know it's an expansive topic, but would you be able to say which areas it's ahead on, as such?
<vpretzel>
lolololol
<workmad3>
pimpthink: unfortunately, postgres started with 'Field of Dreams' style marketing... and mysql beat them hands down with an actual marketing strategy
<supersym>
its cute,..those RDBMSs but with stuff like that Magento setup (250 tables, EAV arch) I want to stab my eyes out with integers
<vpretzel>
The nice guy always loses
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<shevy>
hehe
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<workmad3>
pimpthink: well, there's the lovely detail that postgres has always had proper relational support... mysql before InnoDB was really a flat file pretending... postgres uses more sophisticated locking with adjustable transactional-isolation levels... mysql afaik still just supports row-locking for updates...
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<shevy>
it's like coding with a handicap
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<shevy>
the editor I have to use is notepad++ which is semi-ok
<streblo>
why is it even possible for your system to get so out of whack
<workmad3>
pimpthink: there's also the lovely things like pl-sql not being sucky in postgres ;) not to mention that you can even install extensions like pl-ruby if you wanted to write ruby directly in your db
<pimpthink>
workmad3: ruby right in your db.. that sounds nice
<centrx>
streblo, Is Ruby 1.8 installed?
<workmad3>
pimpthink: then there's the new stuff postgres has been adding recently... json and hstore datatypes, the ability to use uuids generated directly in the db as primary keys... and older stuff like CTEs, partial indexes, reasonable compliance to the SQL standard...
<streblo>
centrx: i have no idea
<streblo>
i mean, apparently it is
<shevy>
streblo it probably was installed at one point
<streblo>
it was originally, yes
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<pimpthink>
workmad3: CTEs are bloody nice..!
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<workmad3>
anyway, I'm being called away for food
<workmad3>
and it is friday
<workmad3>
so hf all :)
<pimpthink>
thanks workmad3 - nice insights :)
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<Radar>
supersym: #spree :)
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<Radar>
supersym: you totally should switch to Spree!
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<Radar>
(note: slight bias. I am the community manager for Spree)
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* catphish
makes a note of Radar's existence, always good to know who works at ruby product companies
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<centrx>
catphish, Would you call that Radar radar?
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<catphish>
perhaps
<catphish>
i once sold a product called radar
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<datandroiddude>
HI does anyone know where I should look to create an application for chatting with my own server?
<datandroiddude>
Sorry if I come of as a n00b
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<catphish>
datandroiddude: look up how to use tcp sockets
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<datandroiddude>
wait can I private message you?
<bleak>
i believe the gserve mdoule includes TCP support
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<Epaphus>
SO?
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<Epaphus>
can i PM you?
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<LLKCKfan>
Hello
<LLKCKfan>
Is there any natural ways to relieve pain without using herbs or weed? No drugs
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<centrx>
LLKCKfan, Stretching and exercise
<shevy>
LLKCKfan sex
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<centrx>
Foods
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<centrx>
#ruby, the one-stop shop for all your problems!
<LLKCKfan>
centrx I have been doing that not helping
<LLKCKfan>
shevy No
<centrx>
What is in pain
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<LLKCKfan>
Hip
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<centrx>
LLKCKfan, What stretches and exercises are you doing now, and how frequently?
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<LLKCKfan>
WALKING
<LLKCKfan>
Everyday
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<Dr_Centrx>
LLKCKfan, Okay, walking can be good, however it could exacerbate hip pain. Have you tried bicycling?
<Dr_Centrx>
LLKCKfan, Are you doing any stretches?
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<LLKCKfan>
es
<LLKCKfan>
no bike
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<shevy>
what is this doing
<highpointe>
attempting to do something super simple but Ruby is foreign to me so any help is appreciated. I have an array that I need to append the same suffix to each entry. A simple for i in... loop in bash. Just can't figure out the Ruby way.
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<arg0sy>
well the variables i need to test could each be :undef, nil or some other data structure entirely. I was using literals in an array in irb to try and work out the best way of testing
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<arg0sy>
without turning out spaghetti code and trying to adhere as much as possible to DRY
<arg0sy>
.all? is terse enough for me. thanks again for pointing it out
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<shevy>
so terse
<shevy>
so pretty
<shevy>
so ruby
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<lagweezle>
Arg brain hurty ..
<shevy>
so hurty
<shevy>
so brainy
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<lagweezle>
rspec testing a class which includes a module. The class uses methods from that module. Thestuff I'm seeing online says you use stub on the class you are testing...? O.o
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<lagweezle>
Ah.
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<shevy>
so lagweezly
<shevy>
lagweezle I am feeling with you emotionally here
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<lagweezle>
In that example, o would behave like a normal Object but ONLY the stubs defined by the any_instance bits would be overriden?
<lagweezle>
hehe shevy
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<shevy>
I never wrote mocks so far
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<pimpthink>
How could I best generate object graphs for my application?
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<pimpthink>
I'd like to be able to glance at it when I want to add something to it every now and then, having not touched it for ages -- without needing to read all of the source code just to get up to speed on the architecture
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<apeiros>
pimpthink: rdoc afaik can generate graphs, using dot.
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<lethjakman>
so...my irb and pry both don't have a prompt.
<lethjakman>
with pry if I press enter it shows up above my current line....
<lethjakman>
any clue what could cause that?
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<tibounise>
I currently have a problem : I want to organize an array of articles into hash, to organize them by year. So I wrote this code : http://pastebin.archlinux.fr/487850
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<tibounise>
But it doesn't work :(
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<tibounise>
(the first comment indicates that the first "puts" instructions gives me the expected results, be the second comment indicates that I don't get the expected result :/)
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<tibounise>
Have an idea ?
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<centrx>
One moment
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<pipecloud>
centrx: You can have two, but no more.
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<tibounise>
:D
<centrx>
tibounise, The native Ruby way to do this is: articles.group_by { |article| article["pubdate"].year }
<pipecloud>
I don't even want to touch that. :D
<tibounise>
oh thank's ! I'll try this now !
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<tibounise>
Thank's it works great ! :)
<centrx>
Welcome to Ruby!
<jhass>
tibounise: iirc keep_if is self modifying
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<jhass>
tibounise: I think you wanted reject instead. but yeah group_by is nice solution
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<jhass>
er or select rather
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<LLKCKfan>
Is there any natural ways to relieve pain without using herbs or weed? No drugs
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<shevy>
LLKCKfan sex man
<shevy>
LLKCKfan say yes
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<shevy>
LLKCKfan speak up
<shevy>
LLKCKfan perhaps talking about the pain makes it go away
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<MJBrune>
finally I got a job. Took me like a month!
<tibounise>
LLKCKfan : Sugar water seems to be a good pain relief
<tibounise>
MJBrune : Congrats !
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<MJBrune>
tibounise: :D thanks.
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<MJBrune>
my last company decided to tell me that they would pay me 2 weeks after my let go date for compensation then paid me like for like a day of work after.
<shevy>
MJBrune what kind of job?
<MJBrune>
shevy: product engineer in product realization.
<shevy>
not sure I understand what that means
<shevy>
:)
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<MJBrune>
To be honest I had to figure out what exactly it meant too but product realization is the realization of the work and time a product needs to get to be successful
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<MJBrune>
and product engineering is like an application engineer, software engineer and etc.
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<MJBrune>
all I can think about though is that it beats working in support.
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<shevy>
hehe
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<apeiros>
MJBrune: US?
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<benzrf>
im sitting in a starbucks talkin about ruby
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<benzrf>
god i feel like such a stereotype
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<xybre>
shevy: the unemployment insurance rates. Same as like peopel who get into a car wreck, their rates go up.
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<shevy>
ah, now I understand
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<xybre>
hehe I just compared employees to car wrecks
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<shevy>
well that makes sense
<shevy>
both are expendable
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<xybre>
Haha
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<tibounise>
I have to go ! Good bye everyone !
<centrx>
So long
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<lagweezle>
... and thanks for all the fish.
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<shevy>
I did not get any fish!
* centrx
jumps into the sea
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<shevy>
man, the poor fish
<shevy>
did you wash before you jumped?
* xybre
fishes centrx out and feeds it to shevy
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<shevy>
poison :(
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* xybre
was not fishing off japan's coast
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<depesz>
hi. I need to escape "special" characters to use in system() call - but I'm on ruby 1.8.7. Is there any sane and safe solution? Aside from writing my own regexp to do it?
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<shevy>
video games are often like super simplified GUIs. you can click... and things move around... if you are VERY lucky you can even input text... that was it mostly
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<itadder>
what would I need to do to create a omnifocus client in ruby
<itadder>
what information do I need from Omnifocous?
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<havenwood>
itadder: Yeah, you take a git repo and push it to heroku, they automate the deploy as long as you're using an app framework they support.
<itadder>
I have two options, one would be to read the database stored on my mac, and use ruby to read that data, or hook in to omnifocus webdav server that is used to sync omnifocus with the Ipad, Iphone and mac
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<havenwood>
i have no clue what an omnifocus is
<itadder>
I think it would be best to do this in rales
<havenwood>
rales: #rubyonrails
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<itadder>
omnifocus is my all time favortie task management tool, that only works on Mac, Iphone and Ipad
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<MJBrune>
shevy: so what I making is a phone sms checker. When I get a text message it should pop up a message box and a textfield and submit button. I can do this in SFML easily. I've been trying to do this in QT but their system is so... different and odd and not well explained. Like Ruby will stop at the application.exec and just stop processing and fully just process the application only. Which is fine but then it gets into slots/signals which is not fine beca
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<MJBrune>
s/compile/runtime/
<shevy>
no idea
<shevy>
I stopped soon after I saw there was no docu
<tchebb>
Is there any way I can override Ruby's uncaught exception formatting (the message and backtrace) with a custom function without wrapping all my code in a begin/rescue?
<shevy>
they told me "use the official qt docu"
<shevy>
boring
<MJBrune>
lol
<MJBrune>
I've been trying to convert
<shevy>
ruby-gnome has a wiki and examples
<AntelopeSalad>
has anyone used the brightbox ppa for a long period of time?
<shevy>
I think by default ruby does an "include Kernel" so you dont have to prefix these methods
<shevy>
"The Kernel module is included by class Object, so its methods are available in every Ruby object."
<shevy>
cool
<MJBrune>
wow ruby is crazy about oop awesomeness.
<shevy>
there is even syscall()
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<shevy>
I dont think I used that one before hmm
<tchebb>
centrx: Yeah, that's what I have now, but there's still the filename and line info. What I'd like to have is an exception class which just prints out the message and nothing else. When certain "expected" errors occur, I'll raise an exception of that type with a short message describing what needs to be fixed.
<shevy>
syscall 4, 1, "hello\n", 6
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<shevy>
that should be the same as
<tchebb>
Currently, the message gets hidden in all the backtrace and filename info which is useless to the user.
<shevy>
puts "hello"
<shevy>
:P
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<MJBrune>
lol weird. Alright well I will have to dive into the world of ruby a bit more.
<shevy>
who of you guys knows where every method in the ruby stdlib resides?
<shevy>
I wanna test someone
<shevy>
where can I find #owned?
<centrx>
tchebb, Wrap everything in a rescue :) That is what you are doing...
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