#ruby-lang on 2014-09-11 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2014-07-11 14:07 ljarvis changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.2; 2.0.0-p481; 1.9.3-p547: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com

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01:54 <nofxx_> hmm... how this option looks better? Its a option to don't remove trailing spaces --no-chomp --no-clean .... --no-ideas

01:54 <nofxx_> -S for short

01:54 <nofxx_> ambiguous.... -S --no-chomp --no-remove-spaces

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04:31 <asdfg> hello im trying to learn ruby

04:31 <asdfg> and i have a question

04:31 <asdfg> what does this snippet mean

04:31 <asdfg> @up_conn = Faraday.new(:url => @endpoint, :proxy => proxy) do |faraday| faraday.request(:url_encoded) faraday.request(:multipart) faraday.adapter(Faraday.default_adapter) end

04:31 <asdfg> i understand that an object is being instantiated in @up_conn = Faraday.new(:url => @endpoint, :proxy => proxy)

04:31 <asdfg> but what is the rest?

04:32 <asdfg> what is the do notation ? and whats this do |faraday|

04:32 <havenwood> asdfg: do begins the block and |faraday| is the block argument

04:34 <asdfg> havenwood: is it a type ?

04:34 <asdfg> havenwood: where does it come from there is no reference of it in the code

04:35 <asdfg> havenwood: is it instantiating the object and passing it as faraday as an argument to the block ?

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04:36 <havenwood> asdfg: yup, that sounds right to me

04:37 <|jemc|> asdfg: that's the usual pattern for blocks passed to initializers, but it could be passing you anything

04:37 <asdfg> havenwood: thanks, but why cant i be able to pass @up_conn directly this seems a bit ugly, no?

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04:38 <havenwood> asdfg: another usage example for comparison would be `File.open('example.txt') do |file|; file.this; file.that; end` instead of `file = File.open('example.txt'); file.this; file.that; file.close`

04:39 <asdfg> havenwood: but what if i have a class variable that i would like to pass to that block and it has the name faraday ?

04:40 <asdfg> havenwood: so `File.open('example.txt') do |file, Var2|; file.this; file.that; end` instead of `file = File.open('example.txt'); file.this; file.that; file.close`

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04:40 <asdfg> havenwood: or i can only include the one variable from the object instatntiation for example |arg1, arg2| are not allowed?

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04:44 <havenwood> >> def example; yield('Jack', 'Jill') end; example do |a, b|; puts "#{a} and #{b} went up the hill." end

04:44 <eval-in____> havenwood => Jack and Jill went up the hill. ... (https://eval.in/191554)

04:44 <asdfg> |jemc|: why cant the initialization only happen by passing the parameters to the class constructor why do we need a block to initialize ?

04:44 <|jemc|> asdfg: it's just another tool in the toolbox for library API designers

04:45 <|jemc|> that is to say, the reason you initialize it that way is because the designers of "Faraday" designed it that way

04:45 <|jemc|> but they have given you other options as well

04:45 <|jemc|> (I'm not familiar with that particular gem)

04:46 <|jemc|> err.. *they may have given

04:46 <asdfg> |jemc|: so can i think of this as editing class variables after initializing it by passing arguments to the constructor ?

04:46 <|jemc|> asdfg: sure, that's commonly the purpose, but again, it could be used for many different kinds of operations

04:47 <|jemc|> you just have to read the docs for the object you're using

04:47 <asdfg> ok, thanks guys!

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12:27 <shortCircuit__> is it possible to take a text, and then save it in a png file ?

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12:29 <shortCircuit__> is it possible to take a text, and then save it in a png file ?

12:30 <jhass> shortCircuit__: Please do not crosspost without at least telling so. Experience shows that people don't bother to inform the other channels of provided solutions, therefore it is considered rude.

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12:34 <shortCircuit__> no, actually i quit mistakenly ... i though the previous mssg was gone

12:34 <shortCircuit__> o

12:34 <shortCircuit__> i understand

12:34 <shortCircuit__> ok my mistake

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12:35 <shortCircuit__> but i like discussing things .. its that ppl just don't share with me, bcoz i am ignorant

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12:39 <DefV> shortCircuit__: yes, it is

12:39 <DefV> take a look at RMagick

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12:45 <shortCircuit__> ok

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14:26 <luka_> hi, I'm learning Ruby; are all these the same: "func(arg=sth)", "func arg=sth", "func(arg:sth)", "func arg:sth"?

14:26 <bougyman> no

14:26 <workmad3> luka_: first 2 are the same, last 2 are the same

14:27 <workmad3> luka_: but they aren't all the same

14:27 <bougyman> the first two are positional arguments, the last two are arguments with a keyword.

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14:27 <luka_> thanks! what's the difference? i'm trying to find bnf grammar but only an old one is available...

14:27 <luka_> oh

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14:27 <luka_> what's the difference between positional and keyword arguments?

14:28 <workmad3> luka_: positional_args: 'some_method(arg1, arg2, arg3)', kwargs: 'some_method(arg2: arg2, arg1: arg1, arg3: arg3)'

14:28 <luka_> oh, so mentioning "arg=" is completely cosmetic?

14:29 <workmad3> luka_: when calling, yes

14:29 <luka_> thanks! :)

14:29 <workmad3> luka_: well... it defines a local variable 'arg'

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14:29 <workmad3> luka_: so I guess it's not completely cosmetic :)

14:30 <luka_> ok :)

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14:30 <centrx> luka_, fn(arg=sth) disrecommended as it is like a comment masquerading as code, and misleading as it can be put in the wrong order

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14:56 <david___> hey guys

14:57 <david___> i'm tryting to work with neo4j in a rails app..can anyone suggest me a stable gem to work with?

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14:59 <david___> anyone? neo4j ? help appretiated

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15:01 <apeiros> patience - the lost art

15:03 <jhass> what do you think, how big is the chance those people would read the topic?

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15:08 <apeiros> jhass: 0.721%

15:08 <jhass> mmh

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15:09 <apeiros> Topic reading - the other lost art

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15:09 <apeiros> we need a "day of the lost arts"

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15:10 <jhass> so you would see no benefit of "| Wait some hours for your answer" in it I guess

15:10 <apeiros> nope

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15:18 <DefV> well

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15:18 <DefV> hours is a bit broad

15:19 <DefV> but more then 5 minutes :-)

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15:19 <jhass> 1-2 hours is not broad actually

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15:33 <ttttt> pastie: hi!

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15:36 <Mon_Ouie> That notice on pastie.org never got updated, did it? :p

15:36 <Mon_Ouie> I've never seen the pastie bot in here

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15:37 <ttttt> it doesn't look good

15:38 <ttttt> i will try gist now

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17:47 <masterkorp> hello

17:47 <masterkorp> on rspec

17:47 <masterkorp> http://pastie.org/private/8dtf7gmxzxa0po3vthhaww

17:47 <wallerdev> lol

17:48 <wallerdev> i like how you decided to complete your sentence on a different channel

17:48 <masterkorp> how do i make the @settings hash available to the extension object ?

17:48 <masterkorp> i need to mock that object existence

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18:01 <masterkorp> any suggestions ?

18:02 <whitequark> masterkorp: try insulting it

18:03 <whitequark> "your set of instance variables is pitiful" is a good start

18:03 <masterkorp> ahaha, i know that teqnike

18:04 <masterkorp> but, this is first time using rspec so I must at least have an idea of the stuff I am doing before insulting ?

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18:07 <masterkorp> now seriously any opinions welcome

18:07 <jhass> did you write the extension class?

18:08 <jhass> how does it work? what exactly do you need to replace?

18:08 <jhass> there are many open questions with that sample

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18:25 <masterkorp> anyways, i got it

18:25 <masterkorp> http://pastie.org/private/koqpbfn48pyztu0wcdcljg

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19:53 <kith> i dont get this: "jruby -S gem list --remote net-ssh" shows this: net-ssh (2.9.1)

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19:53 <kith> "jruby -S gem install --remote net-ssh-shell" installs net-ssh-shell 0.2.0 and as dependency net-ssh 2.1.4

19:53 <kith> whys that? and why doesnt it show in the list?

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19:54 <canton7> prolly net-ssh-shell deppends on version 0.2.0

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19:55 <canton7> *depends

19:55 <kith> i would like to use net-ssh 2.9 and net-ssh-shell 0.2.0

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19:55 <kith> or whichever is net-ssh-shell is compatible to net-ssh

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19:56 <canton7> ask the net-ssh-shell maintainer then

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19:56 <pipework> Or give upgrading it a go yourself.

19:56 <headius> yeah, they likely just hardcoded a specific version

19:56 <kith> :(

19:56 <headius> submit a patch to make it looser

19:57 <kith> i would if i knew how

19:57 <pipework> spelunk!

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20:08 <kith> https://github.com/mitchellh/net-ssh-shell/pull/2

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20:08 <kith> apparently theres already some complaint :D

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20:22 <headius> kith: you could fork the gem for now

20:23 <kith> i wouldnt know how to fix it

20:23 <kith> <--just a user of ruby language :D

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20:30 <pipework> kith: That gem is also ruby.

20:30 <pipework> Treat it like you would treat your own code. There's nothing that special about it, I'm sure

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