ljarvis changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.2; 2.0.0-p481; 1.9.3-p547: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com
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<blueclaude> >> Module.new.class
<eval-in____> blueclaude => Module (https://eval.in/190478)
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<cleopatra> byes guys take care all
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<riffraff> since moving to rails 4.1 I am noticing a lot of lost connections to the database while running tests, does anyone else noticed that, or know what may cause it?
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<womble> riffraff: #rubyonrails people would be more likely to know something about that.
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<riffraff> oh bummer I typed in the wring channel
<riffraff> sorry :(
<womble> np
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<stef1a> what does the #<Text> syntax represent?
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<nofxx> stef1a, you mean #{ } ?
<nofxx> inside a double quoted string
<stef1a> nofxx: nope, i mean #<>
<stef1a> i know what string interpolation is
<centrx> where do you see that
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<stef1a> when using rails
<nofxx> example?
<stef1a> hold on
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<apeiros> I doubt it's even a rails thing
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<apeiros> sounds like inspect output
<stef1a> #<Project id: 200, created_at: "2014-09-07 20:20:23", updated_at: "2014-09-07 20:20:23", name: "Some Project 200", advisor_id: 3, ...>
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<apeiros> yeah
<apeiros> you're looking at output of Project#inspect
<nofxx> object (human attempt to) representation?
<apeiros> >> class Foo; def initialize; @x = 1; @y = "hi there"; end; end; Foo.new.inspect
<eval-in____> apeiros => "#<Foo:0x41691ab8 @x=1, @y=\"hi there\">" (https://eval.in/190832)
<apeiros> >> class Foo; def initialize; @x = 1; @y = "hi there"; end; end; puts Foo.new.inspect
<eval-in____> apeiros => #<Foo:0x41f05af0 @x=1, @y="hi there"> ... (https://eval.in/190833)
<stef1a> how can i access the underlying object? there are occasions where i get output like #<Module(a bunch of numebrs here)>, and i'd like to actually see what's in the module
<stef1a> yeah there we go
<apeiros> stef1a: that depends on how you got to that output…
<stef1a> i think that's what i'm after
<nofxx> stef1a, try '_' heh
<apeiros> stef1a: but once you have only the output, you shouldn't really go back (programmatically) to the object which created that output.
<stef1a> nofxx: what do you mean?
<nofxx> underline... you missed assigning a var
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<nofxx> in irb*
* apeiros will wait for more context
<stef1a> ?
<stef1a> i'm confused... where do i need a _?
<nofxx> stef1a, are we talking irb/repl rails console right?
<stef1a> nofxx: rails console, yes
<mustmodify> I'm looking for something that might not exist. But maybe one of you can point me in the right direction. I have a PDF that has text fields. Is there some way I can get the form to submit that data to me? Or pull it out of the PDF programmatically and then repopulate without having to save the individual forms?
<apeiros> stef1a: important information btw., you should say such things up front next time
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<apeiros> because "in rails" does _not_ imply "in a rails console". might be in the browser.
<apeiros> or in the log
<nofxx> stef1a, try underline, it'll get your last result 'object'
<stef1a> apeiros: well, not only the rails consle... that was just where i pulled that example from
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<stef1a> nofxx: try underlining what? can you give an example?
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<stef1a> apeiros: i see what you're saying though; thanks
<apeiros> stef1a: show us the last line you executed to get that example
<apeiros> you know, context.
<stef1a> Project.first
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<apeiros> x = Project.first
<apeiros> x is your object which creates that output
<mustmodify> Ah ha! It does exist!
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<nofxx> stef1a, every command you issue has a response in ruby, if the response is a object/class whatever complex, you receive a string response #<Foo bla.... that's not the object per se
<stef1a> okay...
<nofxx> for instance.... Bar.new .... #<That response
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<nofxx> ops! I needed that instance! now what? underline
<nofxx> fu = _
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<nofxx> now you get the instance of Bar, not the text.... as you asked
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<nofxx> its a trick, you just need to understand what's happening
<stef1a> ohhhhh.
<stef1a> because the _ represents the output from the previous command?
<nofxx> yup
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<nofxx> stef1a, as said, represent the object itself... the output is the #<That string
* apeiros suppresses being pedantic
<nofxx> just to put in correct terms
<apeiros> hah!
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<stef1a> okay. well, thank you all for the help. my question has been answered.
<nofxx> if you want to actually transform an object into string you can Marshal heh
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<apeiros> serialize (the generic term)
<apeiros> well, marshalling is actually used as a term too. keep forgetting that :)
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<heftig-android> The YAML marshaler is really nice
<heftig-android> If it just weren't so slow
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<heftig-android> Supports way more complex on object systems than JSON and unlike Marshal is human-editable
<heftig-android> s/ on//
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<varun_> Hi.Is there anyone online
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<Guest34193> Hi.Is there anyone online
<jhass> Guest34193: no
<jhass> (in other words, don't ask to ask, just ask)
<Guest34193> Sorry for obviously asking such a rheortic question .Actually i would like to contribute to ruby development
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<Guest34193> Anyone there.
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<varunraj> Hi i wanted to contribute to ruby development.Is there anyone online
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<yorickpeterse> varunraj: just ask your question, there are many programs in this room spread over different timezones
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<varunraj> I specifically wanted to contribute to graph library/algorithms under ruby.
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<yorickpeterse> That's still super abstract, what specific parts of Ruby (gems, etc)?
<varunraj> I am a noob in ruby, but i have lots of experience with C++/research projects in graph theory, I mainly want to do this to learn FOSS.I just need someone who could guide me through the process i can figure out the rest on my own.
<varunraj> Something that is a super extension of this https://github.com/bruce/graphy
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<yorickpeterse> Not sure if that's part of Ruby itself (if you're referring to the language). For MRI, there's https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/community/ruby-core/
<yorickpeterse> which is quite technical
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<Mon_Ouie> varunraj: It sounds like what you want is write a library, which is probably going to be too specific to be part of Ruby itself — so you'd write it as a separate gem for people to install
<Mon_Ouie> Unless you want to add things to the library you linked
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<varunraj> Mon_Ouie i looked and i saw There was a Gsoc poject by Ruby central on Data Structures. Is there some similar need that ruby wants.
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<varunraj> https://github.com/kanwei/algorithms .Is there some need for algorithms like String Matching, Approximate Matching and all in ruby i would be happy to work for free
<varunraj> if someone could only guide me.
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<varunraj> Anyone there
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<wmoxam> varunraj: pretty sure no one knows what you are trying to ask for :p
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<varunraj> See i want to work on something anything related to Ruby that has some amount of data structures,algorithms involved.I need someone to guide me through it so i could hopefully get it integrated with Ruby.
<wmoxam> varunraj: guide you through what?
<varunraj> through my code. I am well versed to code for academic projects, but i dont know FOSS. So if someone could only guide me for example something like this happens in GSOC, but i want to work for free
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<wmoxam> varunraj: Through your code or through Ruby's code?
<wmoxam> :p
<varunraj> Through my code, that is the code i want to integrate with for RUBY.
<wmoxam> integrate how?
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<varunraj> that is for example c++14/c++11 introduce new data structures and algorithms to c++. I know its an extremely long process but i would like to try.
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<wmoxam> varunraj: if you write some code I'm sure that you can find people here (or on IRC, etc) to review it
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<wmoxam> er "or on mailing lists, etc"
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<varunraj> Yeah but since i am a noob now i just need to define something like a 'problem statement' and then i can work on it
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<wmoxam> "Every good work of software starts by scratching a developer's personal itch"
<wmoxam> :p
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<varunraj> I dont even understand what that means.
<varunraj> :p
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<sonne> how do you contorl which flags are passed to make by gem install?
<sonne> apparently it's running make -j5 which is hanging my vm all the time
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<wmoxam> varunraj: it means "solve problems that personally bother you"
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<varunraj> but i am a noob now to solve problems that bother me i have to do projects and then it creates an infinite cycle.
<centrx> The only noob is the one who does not know he is a noob.
<yorickpeterse> neg
<yorickpeterse> The only time you should use "noob" is when somebody is misinformed but reluctant to learn
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<varunraj> Ok but the thing is as a university student most of my time is spent doing assignments so i dont have time to work on my own projects.
<varunraj> This semester i have a lot of free time so i am thinking of working on any problem statement and seeing where it leads me
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<pipework> So work on something!
<yorickpeterse> varunraj: look at issuehub that I linked above, it might contain useful projects looking for help
<varunraj> Yeah so i need a problem statement so if you have something i could define it better and look into tools and stuff.I cant think of problem statements right now.It seems too abstract to me.
<pipework> varunraj: Problem statement: Projects need your help.
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<pipework> A lot of projects on github have issues that you can investigate.
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<epitron> heh
<epitron> that varunraj fellow sounds like he's not used to setting his own goals
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<epitron> he should've probably should've joined this thing -- https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/sciruby
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