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morning
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andrewvos >
morning
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yorickpeterse >
co-worker behind me runs a heavy query, 2 seconds later I get an Email from Cloudfront
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errr
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yorickpeterse >
cloudwatch
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Good thing I now actually pay attention to those Emails
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ljarvis >
i hope you turned around and smacked him
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gnufied >
Last I ran a heavy quarry, I was asked to leave Cuba
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stone cold humor
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ljarvis: nah I just asked her to abort the query
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"Might I inquire about your query?"
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yorickpeterse: Tafelberg!!!
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wat
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ljarvis >
"might i query that query"
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ljarvis >
dat graph
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Oak >
oh wrong channel
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yorickpeterse >
PSA: Cucumber specs are not docs
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11:26
<
zzak >
where is everyone :(
11:27
<
yorickpeterse >
in my belly
11:27
<
gnufied >
yorick's collegue ran a heavy query so he is off sorting it
11:27
<
gnufied >
and rest of us are here
11:28
<
zzak >
i mean in belgium :(
11:28
<
yorickpeterse >
gnufied: did that ages ago
11:28
<
yorickpeterse >
zzak: nobody lives in Belgium, only a few Dutchies trying to evade taxes
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<
maloik >
... and about 11m others :D
11:30
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maloik >
zzak: I think quite a couple people will be jetlagged, others still arriving, and then there's a bunch on the beer tour
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<
maloik >
I'm wondering why there aren't any mobs with pikes raiding ISP and mobile providers' headquarters
11:33
<
zzak >
maloik: i was gonna try to find my way to openminds
11:33
<
maloik >
like, wtf... it's 2013 and they still can't do anything right
11:33
<
zzak >
but i have no idea where i am
11:33
<
zzak >
just found the first place with wifi and coffee and sat down
11:34
<
yorickpeterse >
maloik: that reminds me, hold up
11:34
<
zzak >
is the venue that zebra place?
11:34
<
zzak >
the big brick building
11:34
<
maloik >
zzak: as in the office? I think everyone will basically be running around etc with stuff for arrrrcamp :D
11:34
<
zzak >
i think i walked past it
11:34
<
maloik >
pretty hectic
11:34
<
maloik >
uhm... it's not made of clay if that's what you mean :D
11:34
<
zzak >
maloik: yeah, i figured, just need a place to get work done
11:34
<
maloik >
but it's at the zebrastraat, yep
11:34
<
ljarvis >
he means is it made of zebras
11:34
<
yorickpeterse >
yes
11:35
<
zzak >
theres this place called like, zebrapoint
11:35
<
yorickpeterse >
we make our roads out of zebras
11:35
<
zzak >
looks like a big theatre
11:35
<
ljarvis >
are there zebras?
11:35
<
ljarvis >
RIDDLE ME THAT
11:35
<
yorickpeterse >
Not anymore
11:35
<
zzak >
lee where are you? :(
11:35
<
ljarvis >
at home :-/
11:35
<
maloik >
zebrapoint seems to be some kind of club
11:35
<
maloik >
but it's that location yep
11:35
<
zzak >
hannes come drink with me :D
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maloik >
zzak: at the airport atm waiting for some people, then off to zebrastraat to set up :)
11:36
<
maloik >
and to do ljarvis' chores
11:36
<
ljarvis >
maloik: are you goign to have time to check into my hotel? I didn't even consider that
11:36
<
maloik >
picking up his keys and shit
11:36
<
ljarvis >
should have asked zzak
11:36
<
maloik >
dont worry :) I'll pick it up
11:36
<
zzak >
i get lost finding the bus stop
11:36
<
ljarvis >
maloik: thanks
11:36
<
zzak >
although proud of myself for finding my way out here via bus
11:36
<
maloik >
that's not very relevant zzak , I get lost myself :(
11:37
<
ljarvis >
well shit
11:37
<
ljarvis >
what have i done
11:37
<
zzak >
and everything is french
11:37
<
zzak >
noone speaks english
11:37
<
ljarvis >
hannes does
11:37
<
maloik >
are you in ghent, belgium ?
11:37
<
zzak >
i just throw euros at the communication problem
11:37
<
maloik >
a ton of people speak english in my experience
11:37
<
maloik >
and you're actually in the flamish part of belgium so we speak dutch :D
11:37
<
zzak >
well google tells me this is the right bus, so take my money
11:38
<
ljarvis >
zzak: it's a trap
11:38
<
zzak >
belgium has an identity crisis for sure
11:38
<
ljarvis >
maloik: what's the optimum way to get from the train station to the venue?
11:38
<
zzak >
but its cool, i think its beautiful here with a lot of diverse people
11:38
<
zzak >
ljarvis: google maps
11:39
<
ljarvis >
that doesn't say "take a taxi or this bus"
11:39
<
ljarvis >
it does "bro here's a purple line follow it"
11:39
<
zzak >
i just always take the bus or tram, because money
11:39
<
yorickpeterse >
eh, what kind of shitty Google maps is that?
11:39
<
yorickpeterse >
Works wonders here
11:39
<
ljarvis >
yeah bus it is
11:39
<
yorickpeterse >
granted we use 9292ov.nl for most things
11:39
<
zzak >
hardest part is finding the stop, but they put the bus numbers near the stop
11:40
<
maloik >
ljarvis: probably tram... or bus? not sure
11:40
<
ljarvis >
so it's not that hard?
11:40
<
maloik >
best bet is to check google maps
11:40
<
zzak >
so just wander around until you see your number
11:40
<
maloik >
works really well with poublic transport
11:40
<
zzak >
i think i took the 96 to the venue
11:40
<
zzak >
take the tram 4 from the station
11:40
<
zzak >
to the 96 bus
11:40
<
ljarvis >
sounds like the beginning of a song
11:40
<
yorickpeterse >
Nerds in the city
11:40
<
yorickpeterse >
"HALP MY 3G IS GONE, I R LOST"
11:40
<
zzak >
the 4 tram will get you close
11:40
<
zzak >
i think the stop is even zebra something
11:41
<
ljarvis >
zebra city
11:41
* ljarvis
ends up in the zoo
11:41
* zzak
kills a buffalo
11:41
<
maloik >
it was a zoo
11:41
<
maloik >
zebrastraat used to be a zoo :D
11:41
<
maloik >
not that you'd notice
11:41
<
ljarvis >
ya i knew that, hence my zoo comment
11:41
<
maloik >
unless I'm completely making that up... but I don't think I am
11:42
<
zzak >
nothing here makes sense
11:42
<
yorickpeterse >
I don't think "Martelaarsstraat" here in Amsterdam used to be a street where people were tortured
11:42
<
zzak >
i miss merica
11:42
<
ljarvis >
do u even dutchfrench
11:42
<
maloik >
dutchfrench? dude... :-)
11:42
<
ljarvis >
sorry, frenchdutch
11:43
<
zzak >
do u frutch bro?
11:43
<
ljarvis >
no, i drench.
11:43
<
maloik >
there's totally a thing called denglish though
11:43
<
maloik >
there's a great tumblr on it
11:43
<
ljarvis >
zzak: go find denglish people
11:43
<
maloik >
probably not even funny if you don't understand dutch though
11:43
<
zzak >
i could handle denglish
11:44
<
ljarvis >
i haven't even packed
11:44
<
maloik >
shit guys you're distracting me from my internetting
11:44
<
ljarvis >
i am not a prepared man
11:44
<
zzak >
drunk guy just threw his beer at a car out front
11:44
<
zzak >
this place is legit
11:45
<
ljarvis >
just like home
11:45
<
maloik >
we're not all like that
11:45
<
yorickpeterse >
are you sure you're not in some crack neighbourhood?
11:45
<
ljarvis >
still in america?
11:45
<
zzak >
no by the mall, but this guy is wasted
11:45
<
maloik >
I hope yours are not the first experiences in belgium that people hear about
11:46
<
ljarvis >
that guy is gonna be a mess by the time i arrive
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<
maloik >
I think by the time you arrive, he won't be the only one
11:47
<
zzak >
ljarvis: hes sleeping on the steps, i dont think he will be a person by then
11:47
<
maloik >
last year I saw people drink Duvel like it was lemonade
11:47
<
maloik >
"oh my god belgian beer must drink lots"
11:47
<
maloik >
I'm used to it, but not like that... that just messes you up :D
11:48
<
ljarvis >
british guy is gonna mess everything up
11:48
<
yorickpeterse >
duvel isn't that strong
11:48
<
maloik >
SAYS MR HEINEKEN
11:48
<
maloik >
(sorry I had to do that)
11:48
<
zzak >
do u even drink bro?
11:48
<
ljarvis >
do u even stella?
11:48
<
yorickpeterse >
maloik: I hate Heineken
11:48
<
yorickpeterse >
and Bavaria
11:49
<
maloik >
heineken is like having sex on a canoe
11:49
<
maloik >
... fucking close to water
11:49
<
yorickpeterse >
what's wrong with that?
11:49
<
yorickpeterse >
I've never tried it but I imagine it being quite the experience
11:49
<
ljarvis >
bad anallgy
11:49
<
yorickpeterse >
damn it...I should've tried it
11:49
<
ljarvis >
bad spelly
11:50
<
yorickpeterse >
but either way, I quite like Palm/Hertog-Jan
11:50
<
ljarvis >
zzak: how far is your place from the venue?
11:50
<
zzak >
the bar or where im staying?
11:50
<
ljarvis >
the latter
11:50
<
maloik >
zzak: you found a place for the remaining nights yet ?
11:50
<
zzak >
im staying with your friend hannes
11:50
<
zzak >
idk where that is, supposed to meet up tonight at the venue
11:50
<
maloik >
10min walk
11:51
<
maloik >
unless we leave for a bar then it's more
11:51
<
maloik >
but still close enough
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<
zzak >
tell your friend to get twitter
11:51
<
zzak >
so i can drop my stuff off before the event
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11:51
<
maloik >
we're at the venue from 18 and onwards
11:51
<
ljarvis >
do u even tweet
11:52
<
maloik >
that's 6pm in murica terms
11:52
<
zzak >
oh he already follows me lol
11:52
<
maloik >
feel free to drop it off then
11:52
<
zzak >
JK LOL DO U EVEN 24 HOUR CLOCK?
11:52
<
ljarvis >
zzak: have you prepped for your talk?
11:52
<
yorickpeterse >
you don't need to prepare when you've got cats
11:53
<
maloik >
estimated time for this flight im tracking is behaving like a windows file transfer estimate
11:53
<
zzak >
maloik: are you at the airport still?
11:53
<
maloik >
yep for another 2 hours or so
11:53
<
zzak >
maloik: can i invite steven at 18 to the venue?
11:53
<
maloik >
well no, 1h +
11:53
<
maloik >
he should be there regardless
11:53
<
maloik >
if not then he'll be there later
11:53
<
maloik >
he's a colleague in case I didn't tell you that
11:53
<
maloik >
(friend too of course)
11:53
<
zzak >
that airport of yours
11:54
<
maloik >
but I mean... he'll be helping out a bit
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<
zzak >
i wish all airports were that easy
11:54
<
zzak >
i didnt even have to deal with customs
11:55
<
maloik >
but I suppose you dealt with it in london or wherever you flew in from ?
11:55
<
zzak >
they just handed me a stella and said "have fun!"
11:55
<
maloik >
you deal with it once when you come into europe, and then you're okay... afaik
11:55
<
zzak >
no customs on connection flights
11:55
<
yorickpeterse >
wat
11:55
<
zzak >
just security
11:55
<
yorickpeterse >
Belgium is that easy with letting terrists in?
11:55
<
ljarvis >
you went from NY to LON and you didn't have customs?
11:55
<
yorickpeterse >
<insert skin colour joke>
11:55
<
zzak >
im a fuckin pirate!
11:55
<
ljarvis >
wow, did you go through the fire escape?
11:56
<
ljarvis >
yorickpeterse: zzak does look fairly british
11:56
<
yorickpeterse >
Pretty sure that if he was even remotely coloured he'd be gang groped by the entire customs agency of LON
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<
yorickpeterse >
I think I had most of my customs runins with british ones
11:56
<
zzak >
ok, thats enough racist remarks :(
11:56
<
ljarvis >
huh, you realize 90% of london is 'coloured' right?
11:56
<
yorickpeterse >
ljarvis: yeah but for whatever reason I usually end up with the racist ones
11:57
<
yorickpeterse >
"OI MATE STEP ASIDE HANDS SPREAD IMMA PAT U DOWN"
11:57
<
ljarvis >
that was scary accurate
11:57
<
zzak >
i didnt get pat down
11:57
* ljarvis
calls customs
11:57
<
yorickpeterse >
I guess the only time justified was when I was carrying a letter opener that looked like a knife
11:57
<
yorickpeterse >
granted I was 8
11:57
<
yorickpeterse >
I did somehow managed to sneak in a massive razor blade on my flight to South Korea
11:57
<
yorickpeterse >
But I wasn't allowed to bring 1L of shaving cream
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<
yorickpeterse >
"YEAH SIR THIS IS TOO MUCH, LEAVE IT"
11:58
<
gnufied >
that reminds me, I was stopped for carrying shoe polish in hand baggage
11:58
<
zzak >
im guessing leaving will be a little more difficult
11:58
<
gnufied >
at Heathrow
11:58
<
yorickpeterse >
gnufied: what
11:58
<
yorickpeterse >
Imagine polishing somebody to death!
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<
gnufied >
my mother-in-law was carrying some shoe cream/polish. eventually they allowed because it was less than 100ml or something
11:59
<
ljarvis >
zzak: what's your leaving route like? the same?
11:59
<
imperator >
zzak, how was mountainwest?
12:00
<
yorickpeterse >
ljarvis: you know those pervert-gates every airport here in the EU has these days?
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zzak >
imperator: it was great! colorado is beautiful :D
12:00
<
zzak >
imperator: they renamed it to rockymountainruby btw
12:00
<
zzak >
ljarvis: yeah basically
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<
imperator >
zzak, glad to hear it
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<
ljarvis >
yorickpeterse: yup
12:03
<
yorickpeterse >
ljarvis: they
*always* go nuts on me showing I have some kind of lump of metal in some random body part
12:03
<
yorickpeterse >
"Oh sir it appears that you have a solid block of metal-something in your armpit, stand aside"
12:03
<
zzak >
ljarvis: when are you getting to town?
12:03
<
ljarvis >
"that's just my grenade"
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<
ljarvis >
zzak: my train arrives at 22:05
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<
zzak >
are you going to the thing tonight?
12:04
<
yorickpeterse >
haha, I do recall replying "Nah just a bomb in my bag" to the question if I had anything worth telling about
12:04
<
ljarvis >
ya, gonna pick up my keys from maloik and have a few drinks
12:04
<
yorickpeterse >
glad it was Dutch customs
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<
zzak >
cool, see ya there!
12:04
<
zzak >
if anyone needs me, just ping me on twitter. ive got to get some work done
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<
imperator >
can someone try "gem search -r win32" and tell me if you're getting results?
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<
yorickpeterse >
yes
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<
yorickpeterse >
about...
12:15
<
yorickpeterse >
50 rows or so
12:15
<
yorickpeterse >
yet 38 on my Debian box
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<
imperator >
i'm getting no results for any remote search
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<
yorickpeterse >
oh, different RubyGems version I think
12:16
<
imperator >
2.1 here
12:16
<
yorickpeterse >
Yeah, 2.0.3 on Debian
12:17
<
yorickpeterse >
2.1.2 locally
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<
imperator >
hm....when i tried to update to 2.1.2 it said i'm already on the latest version
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<
imperator >
something has gone horribly wrong
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<
imperator >
yeah, works with an older version of ruby/rubygems
12:19
<
imperator >
not sure what the deal is
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<
imperator >
ruby 2.0.0p247 (2013-06-27) [x64-mingw32] btw
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<
imperator >
hm, grant@ruby-or.jp does not appear to be a valid email address
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<
yorickpeterse >
heh
12:59
<
yorickpeterse >
should be grant@ruby.or.jp
12:59
<
yorickpeterse >
grant-or.jp is a non registered domain
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<
cout >
opens the singleton class of class Presentation and adds an instance variable accessor to it
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<
Lennier >
cout, yes right, thanks a lot!
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<
TCMSLP >
I'm using Ruby 1.8. I install a gem (Ruby-IRC), I then "require 'rubygems'" (as required by 1.8.x and "require 'Ruby-IRC'". The first succeeds, the second fails with a "no such file to load" error. I see them Ruby-IRC spec file contains the correct name - I'm guessing this is something simple?
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<
TCMSLP >
Hmm, strace is the answer
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chris2 >
the answer, my friend, is strace the thing... the answer is strace the thing o/`
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darix >
TCMSLP: that library hasnt seen changes in ages
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darix >
which seems less dead
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andrewvos >
TCMSLP: Ruby 1.8 is very old
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TCMSLP: Try a newer ruby, you'll have more fun. Trust me.
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imperator >
trust him, he's from the internet
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andrewvos: if her/his distro ships with 1.8 we dont need to put the trouble up with also installing a new ruby
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darix: If someone knows how to use strace, then I'm sure installing a new ruby is not that much trouble.
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and still uneeded
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methods >
is there no json parser that can deal with unquoted keys ?
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apeiros >
that's not json
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lianj >
best answer
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methods >
does anyone care though ?
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apeiros >
since json is a proper subset of yaml, and yaml has unquoted keys, you can parse your almost-json with yaml
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that's a good idea
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apeiros >
I'd try to get the source fixed, though
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at least if the source claims it was json
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methods >
I've just ran into this so many times randomly that a quick fix can be nice.. and yes even for simply loading/dumping it out in a proper format
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json is the irc of data-formats…
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apeiros >
or the html
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methods >
if they got it from js objects though i wonder why add the extra requirements of quoting the keys ?
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man today
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yorickpeterse >
slow day is slow, but at least our frontends are up and running on our new deployments system...except half of it is not there yet
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* imperator
is not a fan of the new "f" notation
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<
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hey there, I want to do a bit to bytes and MB to Mbits calculator in ruby.
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If anyone knows the calculation can you help me a bit?
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lianj >
"10101".to_i(2)
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>> "10101".to_i(2)
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oh you mean something different…
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like this:http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/dhite/archive/2008/08/24/bits-and-bytes-conversion-tables.aspx
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rubyconf 2013 is in miami beach this year :)
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dang, wish it was closer to thanksgiving, i could do a combined trip :)
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