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Any idea why optparse won't allow "-" as an arg, like "./foo --bar -" but it allows "./foo --bar /" or "./foo --bar %"?
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scottj: what do you mean "won't allow - as an arg"
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drbrain: as in it doesn't put anything in the options map. (the do |v| OPTIONS[:bar] = v end thingy)
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scottj: it's working fine for me
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ruby -roptparse -e 'o = OptionParser.new do |op| op.on("--bar=VALUE") do |v| p bar: v end end; o.parse(ARGV)' -- --bar -
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drbrain: ahh try ruby -roptparse -e 'o = OptionParser.new do |op| op.on("--bar [VALUE]") do |v| p bar: v end end; o.parse(ARGV)' -- --bar -
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doesn't doesn't appear to work
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might be a bug, can you file one?
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drbrain: thanks for the alternate syntax, I'll use that
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drbrain: is optparse tracked as part of ruby bugtracker?
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you know that "--bar [VALUE]" and "--bar=VALUE" do different things, right?
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the former is optional, the latter is required
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oh, didn't realize that, bummer.
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are you using - as "input from $stdin"?
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nope, I'm using it as "input from GUI" but I was thinking it could later support input from stdin as well
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GUI in this case is dmenu
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I was just curious
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rindolf: the heading suggests that it is an API: «Soundcloud API Client»
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badeball: ah, OK, thanks!
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badeball++
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hey guys, what does it mean "{,*}" in ruby ?
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its a string of gibberish
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nXqd, it's Dir.glob expression
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postmodern >
nXqd, means nothing or a *
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postmodern >
nXqd, nothing or anything
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nXqd, the same as Dir.glob("*.{htm,html}")
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morning
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Any library recommendations for handling json -> poro mapping?
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antbody: why do you need a library?
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Well I don't really know how to handle nested associations.
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charliesome: Oh wait, actually I don't need a library. Thanks for the wake up :D
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postmodern: thanks
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apeiros_ >
fukcing imagemagick and all its issues
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chekcmate >
hi folks
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chekcmate >
wondered if there is something like %temp% or %appdata% in linux... like... global sym links? I don't know what to call them
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chekcmate >
OS variables?
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chekcmate >
facepalm... forget everything above. I'm blind.
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darix >
apeiros_: ;)
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zzak >
apeiros_: hi
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apeiros_ >
hi darix, hi zzak
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judofyr >
hi apieros
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<
zzak >
your patches got backported :D
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apeiros_ >
hi judofry
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apeiros_ >
limechat really needs plugins… writing that nick by hand sucks
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zzak >
it was a few days ago, news travels slow in vermont
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apeiros_ >
zzak: ah, nice!
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zzak >
i had to delete steam :(
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zzak >
was spending too much time playing counter-strike lol
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judofyr >
I know. I've wanted a nick mutation plugin for ages
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zzak >
i prefer the client of the future
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apeiros_ >
judofry, I'd prefer to name it nick mutilation instead of mutation :)
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zzak >
judofyr: canoe or kayak
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zzak >
also doesnt pidgin do something like nick alias?
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darix >
apeiros_: irssi! :p
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apeiros_ >
I should just get my ass off and write that proxy
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apeiros_ >
which would mean I can do all these things regardless of which client I use
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darix >
apeiros_: you mean like quassel or smuxi?
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apeiros_ >
don't know either
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darix >
they both have a daemon that you can connect to retrieve scrollbacks properly and everything
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whitequark >
use pipes and sed
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darix >
whitequark: ugh
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whitequark >
and openssl s_client
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whitequark >
oppan unix style
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apeiros_ >
I'd probably go oppan cinch style
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apeiros_ >
or revive silverplatte
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apeiros_ >
*silverplatter
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yorickpeterse >
Sometimes storing stuff in bots can be quite useful
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whitequark >
sigh, z0r.de is so much worse these days
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wnd: not sure if z0r.de ever had any kind of approval process
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jaska >
holy shit. apart from the hoodie that could be me in that kill -9 pic
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imperator >
good morning
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<
yorickpeterse >
Are there any alternatives to minitar for dealing with tar archives?
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<
yorickpeterse >
Preferrably a solution that doesn't shell out
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<
whitequark >
yorickpeterse: libarchive
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<
yorickpeterse >
whitequark: current binding doesn't do directories
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<
yorickpeterse >
(the Ruby one)
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<
whitequark >
yorickpeterse: gem install bindata; write one
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<
whitequark >
tar isn't that complex you know
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<
darix >
yorickpeterse: i would check what rubygems is using
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yorickpeterse >
darix: they've vendored some stuff
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<
darix >
gem files are tar files if i recall correctly
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whitequark >
darix: minitar?
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<
yorickpeterse >
I've used it in the past, it's ok-ish
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yorickpeterse >
in fact, I actually use it for gem-mirror I believe
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apeiros_ >
darix: yupp. containing tar.gz files
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apeiros_ >
whitequark: got lost? :D
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whitequark >
apeiros_: SNR not high enough
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apeiros_ >
shouldn't that be "low enough"? </pedant> ;-)
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mistym >
I expect to see "Last modified: 1998" on that page
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<
whitequark >
yorickpeterse: I almost forgot how ugly tar was
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<
mistym >
Those photos as icons are amazing
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<
whitequark >
thanks for reminding :/
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yorickpeterse >
whitequark: figured out why I don't want to deal with it myself?
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<
whitequark >
yorickpeterse: no
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whitequark >
it's simple and not over-complicated
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<
whitequark >
argh tautology
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yorickpeterse >
Get out, I'm not going to write a entire tar API
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yorickpeterse >
I have better things to do such as sniffing glue and shooting myself in the foot
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* whitequark
glances at the channel name
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whitequark >
/kick yorickpeterse go join #ruby
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<
yorickpeterse >
haha
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yorickpeterse >
fuckit, lets see how bad minitar is
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darix >
!kick yorickpeterse language!
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yorickpeterse >
darix: since when is this channel not used to regular developer language?
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yorickpeterse >
unless I'm the only one with a rather vulgar vocabulary
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whitequark >
zzak: you'd
*love* the new russian law, which mandates everything to have an age range specified. from tv programs to magazines to billboards
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manveru >
since when do russians follow laws?
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<
whitequark >
dantist ad is "0+". news on the tv are "6+". etc
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<
yorickpeterse >
I always like it when I see something like "For ages 0-99"
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<
yorickpeterse >
JUST SAY IT'S FOR EVERYBOD
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<
yorickpeterse >
fuc
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<
yorickpeterse >
GOD DAMN IT
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<
whitequark >
yorickpeterse is "18+", evidently
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yorickpeterse >
correct
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<
manveru >
but then their #{min_age}-#{max_age} template wouldn't be universal :)
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<
yorickpeterse >
mild violence, vulgar language and horror
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<
yorickpeterse >
PEGI 18
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zzak >
what the frick is ÿþ
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<
yorickpeterse >
unicode
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<
zzak >
and why is it at the beginning of every file
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<
whitequark >
zzak: screwed up BOM?
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<
whitequark >
check what BF FF FE is in your $favorite_encoding
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<
zzak >
im using utf8
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<
zzak >
and it doesnt show up in vim
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<
judofyr >
Best Friends For For For Ever?
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<
zzak >
just when parsing it
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<
whitequark >
oh EF BB BF
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<
whitequark >
also it should look like  in 8859-1
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yorickpeterse >
verdict: minitar doesn't seem that bad
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yorickpeterse >
I suppose the guy's avatar explains enough
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zzak >
how come i cant see the BOM in vim?
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manveru >
because vim knows that it's best to leave it alone
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manveru >
does nano show it?
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manveru >
there you go, fighting stupid with stupid
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manveru >
nano doesn't try to be a smartass like vim :)
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<
wnd >
:setlocal bomb?
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yorickpeterse >
Vim is too good for you BOM scrubs
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judofyr >
yorickpeterse: elliottcable is great
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judofyr >
yorickpeterse: he even has his own channel: #elliottcable
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yorickpeterse >
judofyr: ha
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realDAB >
imperator: hi
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realDAB >
imperator: dblack here, under a different nick
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GarethAdams >
who are you hiding from?
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banisterfiend >
ze germans
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realDAB >
GarethAdams: another dblack got the freenode admins to release my nick and he then registered it
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GarethAdams >
what a cock
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imperator >
realDAB, howdy
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imperator >
welcome back to irc :)
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andrewvos >
there should be a gem called zoidberg so i can say "why not zoidberg" more often
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<
Paradox >
freedrull, why not do it yourself
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<
freedrull >
Paradox: i could, it would be nice if they merged the changes. they dont use github or anything. i emailed some patches, they merged some but ignored others.
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<
Paradox >
freedrull, sad face
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<
freedrull >
oh god that commit i made was in 2011
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<
freedrull >
time flies
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<
ddfreyne >
drbrain: What’s up with your Twitter pony avatar?
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<
tquid >
I'm digging through what docs I can find on expect for ruby, and not seeing anything about the feature I'm interested in: expecting more than one possible outcome. Any pointers on that?
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drbrain >
tquid: use a regular expression?
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tquid >
drbrain: Yeah, that's the obvious way, I guess. I miss the case-statement-like setup that classic Expect uses, though.
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<
yorickpeterse >
drbrain: wtf
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<
yorickpeterse >
(re the unicorn stuff)
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<
whitequark >
yorickpeterse: what's unclear?
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<
yorickpeterse >
not much, just "wat"
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<
drbrain >
yorickpeterse: it's like gravatar, but more magical
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<
yorickpeterse >
let's go to candy mountain charlie!
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<
yorickpeterse >
chaaarliiieeee
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<
yorickpeterse >
I was somewhat amazed when I got something similar in an Email from our ops people
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* whitequark
just discovered there are `mysqldump` and `mysqldumpslow`
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whitequark >
as if the regular one was fast
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* apeiros_
thinks 'slow' is a bad name
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<
apeiros_ >
if the only difference is slow - why'd anybody ever use it?
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<
whitequark >
oh, it does an
*entirely different thing*
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<
whitequark >
mysqldumpslow - Summarize slow query log files
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apeiros_ >
lol, even worse naming then :)
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* whitequark
runs some stats on the irclog database
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<
whitequark >
46275 distinct nicks
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<
whitequark >
32661 of them on ruby* channels
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<
lianj >
ignoring alls _ _away?
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<
whitequark >
lianj: nope
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<
whitequark >
top five nicks by message count:
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<
whitequark >
{:nick=>"bnagy", :"count(*)"=>12164},
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<
whitequark >
{:nick=>"apeiros_", :"count(*)"=>31465},
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<
whitequark >
{:nick=>"workmad3", :"count(*)"=>15575},
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<
whitequark >
{:nick=>"banisterfiend", :"count(*)"=>19122},
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<
whitequark >
{:nick=>"shevy", :"count(*)"=>63552}]
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<
whitequark >
I'm 9th
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<
apeiros_ >
d'oh, I thought I'd gotten less active
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whitequark >
actually scratch that, it includes joins/quits
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<
whitequark >
now shevy surpasses you even further
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<
whitequark >
=> [{:nick=>"shevy", :"count(*)"=>62517}, {:nick=>"apeiros_", :"count(*)"=>28631},
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apeiros_ >
yeah, I'm still too active
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<
drbrain >
apeiros_: you're ruining it
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<
apeiros_ >
got to reduce my irc presence :-/
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whitequark >
apeiros_: y?
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<
apeiros_ >
spending too much time here
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<
whitequark >
brb calculating wordcounts across 755k messages in pure ruby
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<
whitequark >
I wonder how much time will it take
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<
whitequark >
... under a minute. wow.
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<
whitequark >
I thought it would take a
*lot* more time.
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<
whitequark >
db["select line from irclog where channel in ('#ruby', '#ruby-lang') and opcode is null"].each { |f| f[:line].split(/\W/).each { |w| words[w] += 1 }; count += 1; if count % 10000 == 0; puts count; end; }
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<
whitequark >
`rails' is only slightly more popular than `apeiros' :D
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apeiros_ >
and if you sum up apeiros and apeiros_ ? :)
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whitequark >
there's also "Rails"
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sailias >
i think that's a statement for life, "Rails is only slightly more popular than aperios"
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whitequark >
so the metal thingy is still a bit ahead
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apeiros_ >
I might quote you on that ^^
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sailias >
i like that quote. ./topic "Rails is only slightly more popular than aperios"
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apeiros_ >
yeah, to be fair you'd have to sum rails, Rails, rubyonrails
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apeiros_ >
sailias: I hope you misspell my nick on purpose :-p
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whitequark >
random stuff:
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whitequark >
> words.values_at('love', 'hate')
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whitequark >
=> [1608, 1459]
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sailias >
no, sorry, i tried to tab tab, but it didn't want to
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sailias >
people spell my nick sailas or salias all the time
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whitequark >
also we have inkjet and judofry
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whitequark >
sailias: also your nick is a palindrome
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sailias >
should make it more recognizable, no?
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sailias >
or more confusing?
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whitequark >
I don't really see any link here
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apeiros_ >
sailias: as long as it isn't saliva
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sailias >
i've even gotten cialius
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sailias >
sorry, cialus
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whitequark >
that's evil
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sailias >
i am not a ED drug
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sailias >
or maybe i am, i'm an attractive man
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