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<scottj> Any idea why optparse won't allow "-" as an arg, like "./foo --bar -" but it allows "./foo --bar /" or "./foo --bar %"?
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<rindolf> https://github.com/SocialFolders/soundcloud-client - hi all. Is this a GUI, a CLI, an API or what?
<drbrain> scottj: what do you mean "won't allow - as an arg"
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<scottj> drbrain: as in it doesn't put anything in the options map. (the do |v| OPTIONS[:bar] = v end thingy)
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<drbrain> scottj: it's working fine for me
<drbrain> ruby -roptparse -e 'o = OptionParser.new do |op| op.on("--bar=VALUE") do |v| p bar: v end end; o.parse(ARGV)' -- --bar -
<scottj> drbrain: ahh try ruby -roptparse -e 'o = OptionParser.new do |op| op.on("--bar [VALUE]") do |v| p bar: v end end; o.parse(ARGV)' -- --bar -
<scottj> doesn't doesn't appear to work
<drbrain> might be a bug, can you file one?
<scottj> drbrain: thanks for the alternate syntax, I'll use that
<scottj> drbrain: is optparse tracked as part of ruby bugtracker?
<drbrain> yes
<drbrain> you know that "--bar [VALUE]" and "--bar=VALUE" do different things, right?
<drbrain> the former is optional, the latter is required
<scottj> oh, didn't realize that, bummer.
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<drbrain> are you using - as "input from $stdin"?
<scottj> nope, I'm using it as "input from GUI" but I was thinking it could later support input from stdin as well
<scottj> GUI in this case is dmenu
<drbrain> I was just curious
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<rindolf> Anyone?
<rindolf> <rindolf> https://github.com/SocialFolders/soundcloud-client - hi all. Is this a GUI, a CLI, an API or what?
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<badeball> rindolf: the heading suggests that it is an API: «Soundcloud API Client»
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<rindolf> badeball: ah, OK, thanks!
<rindolf> badeball++
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<nXqd> hey guys, what does it mean "{,*}" in ruby ?
<Paradox> nothing
<Paradox> its a string of gibberish
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<postmodern> nXqd, it's Dir.glob expression
<postmodern> nXqd, means nothing or a *
<postmodern> nXqd, nothing or anything
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<postmodern> nXqd, the same as Dir.glob("*.{htm,html}")
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<antbody> Any library recommendations for handling json -> poro mapping?
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<charliesome> antbody: why do you need a library?
<antbody> Well I don't really know how to handle nested associations.
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<antbody> charliesome: Oh wait, actually I don't need a library. Thanks for the wake up :D
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<nXqd> postmodern: thanks
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<apeiros_> fukcing imagemagick and all its issues
* apeiros_ angry
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<chekcmate> hi folks
<chekcmate> wondered if there is something like %temp% or %appdata% in linux... like... global sym links? I don't know what to call them
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<chekcmate> OS variables?
<chekcmate> facepalm... forget everything above. I'm blind.
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<darix> apeiros_: ;)
<zzak> apeiros_: hi
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<apeiros_> hi darix, hi zzak
<zzak> hi
<judofyr> hi apieros
<zzak> your patches got backported :D
<apeiros_> hi judofry
<apeiros_> limechat really needs plugins… writing that nick by hand sucks
<zzak> it was a few days ago, news travels slow in vermont
<apeiros_> zzak: ah, nice!
<apeiros_> might have a few more soon, though, soon might be relative, due to: http://eu.battle.net/de/int?r=sc2
<zzak> sweet
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<zzak> i had to delete steam :(
<zzak> was spending too much time playing counter-strike lol
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<apeiros_> ^^
<judofyr> I know. I've wanted a nick mutation plugin for ages
<zzak> i prefer the client of the future
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<apeiros_> judofry, I'd prefer to name it nick mutilation instead of mutation :)
<zzak> judofyr: canoe or kayak
<zzak> also doesnt pidgin do something like nick alias?
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<darix> apeiros_: irssi! :p
<apeiros_> meh
<darix> yes?
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<apeiros_> I should just get my ass off and write that proxy
<apeiros_> which would mean I can do all these things regardless of which client I use
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<darix> apeiros_: you mean like quassel or smuxi?
<apeiros_> don't know either
<darix> they both have a daemon that you can connect to retrieve scrollbacks properly and everything
<whitequark> use pipes and sed
<darix> whitequark: ugh
<whitequark> and openssl s_client
<whitequark> oppan unix style
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<apeiros_> I'd probably go oppan cinch style
<apeiros_> or revive silverplatte
<apeiros_> *silverplatter
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: I was going to link you to a picture of "Kill yourself, please" but I found this instead: http://i.imgur.com/I7GMd.jpg
<yorickpeterse> Sometimes storing stuff in bots can be quite useful
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<whitequark> sigh, z0r.de is so much worse these days
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<wnd> you could say the same about http://sieni.us/ which used to have rather good SNR
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<whitequark> wnd: not sure if z0r.de ever had any kind of approval process
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<jaska> holy shit. apart from the hoodie that could be me in that kill -9 pic
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<imperator> good morning
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<manveru> moin
<ddd> morning
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<injekt> hai
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<yorickpeterse> Are there any alternatives to minitar for dealing with tar archives?
<yorickpeterse> Preferrably a solution that doesn't shell out
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: libarchive
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: current binding doesn't do directories
<yorickpeterse> (the Ruby one)
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: gem install bindata; write one
<whitequark> tar isn't that complex you know
<darix> yorickpeterse: i would check what rubygems is using
<yorickpeterse> darix: they've vendored some stuff
<darix> gem files are tar files if i recall correctly
<whitequark> darix: minitar?
<yorickpeterse> I've used it in the past, it's ok-ish
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<yorickpeterse> in fact, I actually use it for gem-mirror I believe
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<apeiros_> darix: yupp. containing tar.gz files
<apeiros_> whitequark: got lost? :D
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<whitequark> apeiros_: SNR not high enough
<apeiros_> ^^
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<apeiros_> shouldn't that be "low enough"? </pedant> ;-)
<apeiros_> ah, no
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<yorickpeterse> https://chilkatsoft.com/tar-ruby.asp haha holy shit, it's been ages since I landed on this website
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<mistym> I expect to see "Last modified: 1998" on that page
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: I almost forgot how ugly tar was
<mistym> Those photos as icons are amazing
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<whitequark> thanks for reminding :/
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: figured out why I don't want to deal with it myself?
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: no
<whitequark> it's simple and not over-complicated
<whitequark> argh tautology
<yorickpeterse> Get out, I'm not going to write a entire tar API
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<yorickpeterse> I have better things to do such as sniffing glue and shooting myself in the foot
* whitequark glances at the channel name
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<whitequark> /kick yorickpeterse go join #ruby
<yorickpeterse> haha
<yorickpeterse> fuckit, lets see how bad minitar is
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<zzak> :(
<darix> !kick yorickpeterse language!
<darix> :p
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<yorickpeterse> darix: since when is this channel not used to regular developer language?
<yorickpeterse> unless I'm the only one with a rather vulgar vocabulary
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<whitequark> zzak: you'd *love* the new russian law, which mandates everything to have an age range specified. from tv programs to magazines to billboards
<manveru> since when do russians follow laws?
<whitequark> dantist ad is "0+". news on the tv are "6+". etc
<yorickpeterse> I always like it when I see something like "For ages 0-99"
<yorickpeterse> JUST SAY IT'S FOR EVERYBOD
<yorickpeterse> fuc
<yorickpeterse> GOD DAMN IT
<whitequark> yorickpeterse is "18+", evidently
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<yorickpeterse> correct
<manveru> but then their #{min_age}-#{max_age} template wouldn't be universal :)
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<yorickpeterse> mild violence, vulgar language and horror
<yorickpeterse> PEGI 18
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<zzak> what the frick is ÿþ
<yorickpeterse> unicode
<yorickpeterse> :>
<zzak> and why is it at the beginning of every file
<whitequark> zzak: screwed up BOM?
<whitequark> check what BF FF FE is in your $favorite_encoding
<zzak> im using utf8
<zzak> and it doesnt show up in vim
<judofyr> Best Friends For For For Ever?
<zzak> just when parsing it
<whitequark> oh EF BB BF
<whitequark> also it should look like  in 8859-1
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<yorickpeterse> verdict: minitar doesn't seem that bad
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: https://gist.github.com/elliottcable/891693 wat
<yorickpeterse> I suppose the guy's avatar explains enough
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<zzak> how come i cant see the BOM in vim?
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<manveru> because vim knows that it's best to leave it alone
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<zzak> :(
<manveru> does nano show it?
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<zzak> yes sir
<manveru> there you go, fighting stupid with stupid
<zzak> ty
<manveru> nano doesn't try to be a smartass like vim :)
<wnd> :setlocal bomb?
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<yorickpeterse> Vim is too good for you BOM scrubs
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<judofyr> yorickpeterse: elliottcable is great
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<judofyr> yorickpeterse: he even has his own channel: #elliottcable
<yorickpeterse> judofyr: ha
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<realDAB> imperator: hi
<realDAB> imperator: dblack here, under a different nick
<GarethAdams> who are you hiding from?
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<banisterfiend> ze germans
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<realDAB> GarethAdams: another dblack got the freenode admins to release my nick and he then registered it
<GarethAdams> what a cock
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<imperator> realDAB, howdy
<imperator> welcome back to irc :)
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<realDAB> thanks
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<andrewvos> there should be a gem called zoidberg so i can say "why not zoidberg" more often
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<freedrull> i want to convince this textart library to package their ruby extension up as a gem :| http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/libcaca
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<Paradox> freedrull, why not do it yourself
<freedrull> Paradox: i could, it would be nice if they merged the changes. they dont use github or anything. i emailed some patches, they merged some but ignored others.
<Paradox> freedrull, sad face
<freedrull> :{
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<freedrull> oh god that commit i made was in 2011
<freedrull> time flies
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<ddfreyne> drbrain: What’s up with your Twitter pony avatar?
<drbrain> ddfreyne: http://unicornify.appspot.com
<ddfreyne> :D
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<tquid> Hi folks
<tquid> I'm digging through what docs I can find on expect for ruby, and not seeing anything about the feature I'm interested in: expecting more than one possible outcome. Any pointers on that?
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<drbrain> tquid: use a regular expression?
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<tquid> drbrain: Yeah, that's the obvious way, I guess. I miss the case-statement-like setup that classic Expect uses, though.
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<yorickpeterse> drbrain: wtf
<yorickpeterse> (re the unicorn stuff)
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: what's unclear?
<yorickpeterse> not much, just "wat"
<drbrain> yorickpeterse: it's like gravatar, but more magical
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<yorickpeterse> let's go to candy mountain charlie!
<drbrain> exactly
<yorickpeterse> chaaarliiieeee
<yorickpeterse> I was somewhat amazed when I got something similar in an Email from our ops people
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* whitequark just discovered there are `mysqldump` and `mysqldumpslow`
<whitequark> as if the regular one was fast
* apeiros_ thinks 'slow' is a bad name
<apeiros_> if the only difference is slow - why'd anybody ever use it?
<whitequark> oh, it does an *entirely different thing*
<whitequark> mysqldumpslow - Summarize slow query log files
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<apeiros_> lol, even worse naming then :)
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* whitequark runs some stats on the irclog database
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<whitequark> 46275 distinct nicks
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<whitequark> 32661 of them on ruby* channels
<lianj> ignoring alls _ _away?
<lianj> -s
<whitequark> lianj: nope
<whitequark> top five nicks by message count:
<whitequark> {:nick=>"bnagy", :"count(*)"=>12164},
<whitequark> {:nick=>"apeiros_", :"count(*)"=>31465},
<whitequark> {:nick=>"workmad3", :"count(*)"=>15575},
<whitequark> {:nick=>"banisterfiend", :"count(*)"=>19122},
<whitequark> {:nick=>"shevy", :"count(*)"=>63552}]
<lianj> lol shevy
<whitequark> I'm 9th
<apeiros_> d'oh, I thought I'd gotten less active
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<whitequark> actually scratch that, it includes joins/quits
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<whitequark> now shevy surpasses you even further
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<whitequark> => [{:nick=>"shevy", :"count(*)"=>62517}, {:nick=>"apeiros_", :"count(*)"=>28631},
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<apeiros_> yeah, I'm still too active
<drbrain> apeiros_: you're ruining it
<apeiros_> got to reduce my irc presence :-/
<whitequark> apeiros_: y?
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<apeiros_> spending too much time here
<whitequark> brb calculating wordcounts across 755k messages in pure ruby
<whitequark> I wonder how much time will it take
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<whitequark> ... under a minute. wow.
<whitequark> I thought it would take a *lot* more time.
<whitequark> db["select line from irclog where channel in ('#ruby', '#ruby-lang') and opcode is null"].each { |f| f[:line].split(/\W/).each { |w| words[w] += 1 }; count += 1; if count % 10000 == 0; puts count; end; }
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<whitequark> `rails' is only slightly more popular than `apeiros' :D
<apeiros_> and if you sum up apeiros and apeiros_ ? :)
<whitequark> there's also "Rails"
<sailias> i think that's a statement for life, "Rails is only slightly more popular than aperios"
<whitequark> so the metal thingy is still a bit ahead
<apeiros_> I might quote you on that ^^
<sailias> i like that quote. ./topic "Rails is only slightly more popular than aperios"
<apeiros_> yeah, to be fair you'd have to sum rails, Rails, rubyonrails
<apeiros_> sailias: I hope you misspell my nick on purpose :-p
<whitequark> random stuff:
<whitequark> > words.values_at('love', 'hate')
<whitequark> => [1608, 1459]
<sailias> no, sorry, i tried to tab tab, but it didn't want to
<sailias> people spell my nick sailas or salias all the time
<whitequark> also we have inkjet and judofry
<whitequark> sailias: also your nick is a palindrome
<sailias> should make it more recognizable, no?
<sailias> or more confusing?
<whitequark> I don't really see any link here
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<apeiros_> sailias: as long as it isn't saliva
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<sailias> i've even gotten cialius
<sailias> sorry, cialus
<whitequark> that's evil
<sailias> i am not a ED drug
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<sailias> or maybe i am, i'm an attractive man
<sailias> :P
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