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<fragmachine>
Hello, I'm trying to install green_shoes and having problems. I've installed all the dependancies using homebrew according to the isntructions on the github site. THen I installed the gem no problem. Now whenever I try to use the gem I get a massive error - http://pastie.org/3234189
<fragmachine>
any ideas what's going on?
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<erikh>
fragmachine: I'd ping @steveklabnik on twitter.
<erikh>
if nothing else, he can direct you to the right people that work on green shoes
<fragmachine>
ok cool, I'll give it a try
<fragmachine>
now I'm having an unrelated problem. Whenever I try and require 'my_library' I get a load error. It works with my system ruby (1.8.7) but not with the rvm 1.9.3 version.
<fragmachine>
oops, spoke to soon. I gave it the full path and it worked!
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<erikh>
avoid that and use ruby -I
<erikh>
unless you're not planning to move that file, ever
<fragmachine>
good point. what does ruby -I do?
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<ryanf>
adds the given path to ruby's load path (where it looks for stuff you require)
<ryanf>
so "ruby -I." or "irb -I." includes the current working directory, which will let you require "my_library" without specifying the whole path
<ryanf>
1.8.x has that behavior by default, which is why it worked for you before
<fragmachine>
ok cool. I tried it and it just seems to hang for some reason
<raggi>
my_library doesn't happen to have the same name as a gem that you're trying to load does it?
<fragmachine>
no they all have different names
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<fragmachine>
ok I did this and it worked - ruby -I "/Users/fragmachine/bin/last" WeatherScript.rb
<fragmachine>
now just gotta get that green_shoes to work...
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<erikh>
yeah, I'd definitely ping steve; he's the champion of all things shoes
<erikh>
raggi: new york pizza has the best gyros ever, if you like that sort of thing
<raggi>
i'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say gyros
<erikh>
fantastic creations made from pita, lamb and tzatziki
<erikh>
I think souvlaki is probably the more proper term?
<erikh>
aha! it's both
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<raggi>
man
<raggi>
rails heads can be such assholes in tickets, makes me really tempted to just fuck off and let people suffer wiht no maintainers
<raggi>
i have better shit to do with my weekend that deal with accusative tone from arrogant little fucks who dont' even write correct or meaningful patches, yet seem to think they have a right to come in and fuckup software used by thousands of people
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<shevy>
raggi hehehe
<erikh>
yeah, I just said "fuck it" to patching other people's projects
<erikh>
my blood pressure stays closer to normal that way.
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<raggi>
the stupid thing is, these fuckers haven't even patched anything meaningful, they're just demanding a premature release
<raggi>
chris2: ping
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<H4y4shi>
Hey guys I like the Ruby Programming Language how about you all?
<H4y4shi>
So do you guys wanna talk about Ruby or something?
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<raggi>
i like her red hair.
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<H4y4shi>
すみません
<H4y4shi>
Is this in Japanese or English?
<raggi>
english
<raggi>
:)
<H4y4shi>
Oh no one ever responded to me when I joined so I was starting to think it was in Japanese
<raggi>
that kind of question doesn't tend to get any/good answers
<raggi>
it's implied yes by people being here
<raggi>
you might get a better response with something slightly more specific like "i don't like the idea of mix, because [x, y, z], what do you think?", but even then, open questions often don't work well on irc
<H4y4shi>
So is this a good place to ask questions about Ruby?
<raggi>
yes
<H4y4shi>
This language is so interesting. I am glad to be learning it.
<H4y4shi>
I heard there was a free version of Ruby in Steel, does it work with Visual studio 2010?
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<raggi>
i have no idea, sorry
<H4y4shi>
Hello rpowell
<rpowell>
hey
<H4y4shi>
Do you heard of Ruby in Steel personal edition (the free version)
<raggi>
most rubyists use a *nix shell and a unix-y editor
<H4y4shi>
I use Windows because I am just learning I dont see any advantages in installing a whole new system for the kind of beginner stuff I am doing. BUt the Ruby in Steel Ide looks like it would help me practice.
<rpowell>
yeah I'm on OS X
<rpowell>
and I don't use an IDE
<rpowell>
just Vim
<H4y4shi>
Oh well I was looking for some advice on downloading and installing Ruby In Steel Personal edition.
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<raggi>
i know, i can just see that being a world of hurt if you don't know how to get past the oddities
<erikh>
that's fair
<erikh>
ok, off to the caffeine vendor
<erikh>
bbiab
<bnagy>
oh, that console thing looks cool, thx
<H4y4shi>
Right now I am using Notepad++ and the CMD prompt but I dont really like the CMD prompt because it is not what I am used to. I am used to the Visual Studio environment.
<H4y4shi>
Wow... Console looks cool
<nuclearsandwich>
H4y4shi: However you feel about the command prompt, the great majority of the Ruby ecosystem is built around one.
<nuclearsandwich>
Also raggi thanks for linking console. I can't believe I've never encountered it before.
<H4y4shi>
Really? I didnt know that seeing as I have never talked to anyone about Ruby before. The only information I have is from the free Ebook ruby comes packaged with.
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<nuclearsandwich>
there's a ton of Ruby info out here.
<bnagy>
nuclearsandwich: yeah ditto - sleectable text for cut paste? The luxury!
<lsegal>
if h is a method, "h = hello" makes no sense
<lsegal>
Modification calm down bro. you need to tell us what part doesn't work first.
<Modification>
thats what it told me on the website..
<Modification>
im noy hype..
<Modification>
im calm..
<Modification>
Okay.. the connecting part... A Ok.
<bnagy>
well we saw the url the first two times
<Modification>
the actually input and output Not Ok.
<lsegal>
what "input and output" are you expecting?
<Modification>
like I input !troll or something
<bnagy>
the script you pasted should join the channel and just sit there outputting whatever it sees
<Modification>
and it outputs trolololo or something for example..
<Modification>
to the irc channel..
<lsegal>
why would it do that? you didn't program it to do so
<Modification>
thats the thing..
<lsegal>
so make it do that.
<Modification>
I read a lot of stuff.. Idk how to make it do it..
<Modification>
-_-
<Modification>
I did the tut on the site...
<lsegal>
it sounds like you have some more reading to do then. you need to parse the msg you're reading from the server and take an action if ("if" is a keyword here) the right sentence is sent to your client
<bnagy>
does it actually work? like does it stay connected and spit out the channel output?
<Modification>
so the def thing dont work?
<Modification>
it disconnects after a bit for some reason
<Modification>
^^
<lsegal>
Modification the "def" thing works fine, but has nothing to do with the code you wrote
<Modification>
Okay I undestand..
<lsegal>
it disconnects because your client doesn't respond to ping requests from the server, probably
<Modification>
i use cmd..
<lsegal>
i don't know what that means
<Modification>
command promt...
<lsegal>
and i don't think it's relevant
<Modification>
windows
<lsegal>
first off
<Modification>
yes?
<lsegal>
you should probably not test your script in a large public channel if you know it's not yet working
<lsegal>
that's a good way to get banned
<Modification>
no
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<Modification>
I test it on my friends network I have my own channel
<Modification>
not that one I meant when he said not to test publicly..
<lsegal>
secondly, that
<bnagy>
that will at least handle the pings, it still won't send anything though
<Modification>
I usually test it on my friends server
<Modification>
brb
<lsegal>
thirdly you might want to practice handling input and output on something that is easier to test (locally) before moving onto something like dealing with the IRC protocol
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<Modification>
yeah
<Modification>
there was the probelm why I didnt use that one @bnagy
<Modification>
it glitches or something..
<Modification>
looks like a matrix...
<lsegal>
did you see a black cat?
<Modification>
uhh.. idk it dont look like anything but lines of code moving really fast
<bnagy>
oh, wait, it does support input as well, nice
<Modification>
-_-
<bnagy>
I didn't see he has=d a select in there
<bnagy>
damn lag :/
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<manveru>
thing is, generating the docs takes about three times as long as building ruby
<matti>
Haha
<matti>
manveru: Really?
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<manveru>
you try :P
<matti>
:P
<matti>
manveru: I have a compile farm with ccache and distcc, I would probably never noticed ;p
<manveru>
i doubt it distributes rdoc/ri generation
<matti>
manveru: I have to .deb everything, heh.
<matti>
manveru: Probably not, it is more of a "they can go and compile, I don't care unless there is an error".
<manveru>
aye
<manveru>
i usually never generate docs
<manveru>
waste of time and space
<shevy>
yeah
<manveru>
i just look at the source if i wanna know something
<matti>
Heheh
<matti>
Amen!
<matti>
And usually, on-line documentation is more up to date.
<manveru>
how so?
<matti>
manveru: Some of the man pages for instance that Debian ships.
<matti>
manveru: Look at the dates ;)
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<manveru>
i don't have debian anymore
<matti>
manveru: Then you go on-line and find out "oh, shit..."
<manveru>
but i know what you mean...
<matti>
manveru: I was just giving an exmaple.
<matti>
;]
<manveru>
it's one of the reasons i left :P
<matti>
Hehe
<matti>
Software moves too fast nowadays.
<matti>
Its not '70 and waterfall any more.
<matti>
;]
<matti>
Thank God for that.
<manveru>
aye
<manveru>
OSS is moving way too fast for my taste
<manveru>
but gotta keep up
<matti>
Yep.
<matti>
Hence "Read the source, Luke" is most often more than sufficient.
<matti>
Unless you are an absolute lazy arse that can't be bothered.
<manveru>
lol
<manveru>
i used to rely on docs...
<manveru>
but it was usually more trouble than it's worth
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<matti>
manveru: For what it should do I look at both source code and tests, and for what it should not do I look at tests.
<manveru>
that's why i love rubinius :)
<matti>
manveru: Sadly, I am guilty myself of sometimes not writing tests. I am still stucks in Systems as somebody who can code, and writing tests sometimes is overlooked, and then there is never teh time to retro-fit.
<matti>
;/
<manveru>
testing some stuff is more trouble than it's worth as well :P
<manveru>
i write tests for my libraries, but not so much for whole apps
<manveru>
usually just some poking around to estimate overall soundness, otherwise the design becomes too rigid for my taste
<matti>
manveru: I have a problem with tests.
<matti>
manveru: When I go back to retro-fit, I got pulled into "this can be done better".
<manveru>
well, that's deadly
<matti>
manveru: And I end up improving upon myself, which invalidates the whole idea of retro-fitting tests.
<matti>
manveru: Being a perfectionist is a pain :)
<manveru>
agreed
<matti>
:>
<matti>
manveru: Hate Driven Development has its place too ;d
<michael_mbp>
aha thanks!
<michael_mbp>
thank you matti heftig
<Spooner>
matti: Ironically, since tests allow refactors with confidence, they encourage me to go back and "fix" things that don't need fixing :)
<michael_mbp>
and that just sent my CPU thru the roof
<michael_mbp>
yay
<manveru>
oh damnit
<manveru>
now tmux won't start
<shevy>
michael_mbp: chase your CPU! bring it back!!!
<manveru>
let's see if beanstalkd builds with libevent2 now
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<manveru>
maybe vim source is close to that crazyness
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<manveru>
if you include gvim
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<manveru>
yay, got beanstalkd to build
<bougyman>
with libevent2?
<manveru>
all it took as using PRIu64, thanks matti
<manveru>
bougyman: moin :)
<bougyman>
mornin
<bougyman>
you using clang or gcc?
<manveru>
yeah
<manveru>
dunno
<bougyman>
i got it to work with clang.
<manveru>
gcc i guess
<manveru>
yeah, gcc
<manveru>
why do you use clang?
<manveru>
bougyman: the beanstalkd-git package?
<bougyman>
cause that's the instructions i saw.
<bougyman>
manveru: are you making that?
<manveru>
yeah, fixed it
<bougyman>
ok.
<manveru>
just gotta make a pull request
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<seme>
?
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<bnagy>
beanstalkd is awesome. manveru, are you making a cext based client with ffi binding for ruby?
<shevy>
hehehe
<bnagy>
-hint-hint-
<shevy>
manveru make me spaghetti!
<seme>
hi guys... can anyone give me a hand... I'm trying to get a random integer between 1 and 6 (inclusive)... It looks like Random.new.rand(1..6) should work but I get an errro "NameError: uninitialized constant Random" any help would be appreciated
<manveru>
bnagy: no
<manveru>
bnagy: the protocol is damn simple, no need for a cext
<bnagy>
seme: rand(7)+1
<bnagy>
manveru: yeah but string handling in ruby is slow :(
<manveru>
ffi is slower
<bnagy>
sorry rand(6)+1
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<seme>
bnagy: thanks... any reason why I couldn't use Random though? just so I understand what I did wrong.
<rippa>
rand(1..6)
<rippa>
in 1.9.3
<seme>
aah maybe I'm looking at the wrong docs... I'm on 1.8.7
<bnagy>
rand takes a Range now? mind==blown
<seme>
that was it... :)
<manveru>
bnagy: the protocol is really just like "WATCH X" or "DELETE Y"
<bnagy>
manveru: yeah I know :)
<bnagy>
I just think multiple stats requests etc might be faster from ffi
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<manveru>
i don't care
<manveru>
you usually don't put stats requests in your performance critical code
<bnagy>
things like 'insert this until stats['current-jobs-ready']>=1000 etc
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<bnagy>
we gave some brief thought to ditching beanstalk for 0mq, but it's a huge PITA
<manveru>
i know
<bnagy>
was trivial to replace amqp with 0mq though
<manveru>
i tried implementing beanstalkd in go with 0mq
<bnagy>
and I like the ffi-rzmq code
<manveru>
but their lack of generics made me pull my hair out
<bnagy>
beanstlkd doesn't have a high watermark or anything that I missed, right?
<rue>
Mm, theoretically M/R can use arbitrary executables
<bnagy>
yeah or even bash
<rue>
Shell scripts, too, if you like
<bnagy>
btu I didn't know amazon AWS supported it
<bnagy>
my life just got a hell of a lot easier
<rue>
It IS a lot easier if there's explicit support for some of the externalities
<rue>
Hadoop, for example, accepts any executable, but using MrToolkit does simplify it a little
<bnagy>
ie I don't have to learn java
<rue>
Or whatever the current version is
<rue>
s/version/variant/
<bnagy>
anyway that was today's happymaking discovery
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<matti>
manveru: No worries, glad to help :)
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<Dreamer3>
is there a way to do module << self like you can with classes?
<shevy>
hmm is there a way to get the system newline in use?
<llaskin>
given that actions is an Array with 3 elements all of type WrappedWebElement why, when I run actions.each{|action|} does each action element become an array whcih has element[0] = Fixnum(0) and element[1] = WrappedWebElement?
<shevy>
like \n on linux... not sure what it is on windows
<judofyr>
Dreamer3: you can do "class << SomeModule"
<rue>
Dreamer3: class << MyModule
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<Dreamer3>
oh
<Dreamer3>
it's the same? :)
<judofyr>
yup
<rue>
The general syntax is class << any_object_and_modules_are_objects_too
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