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<Spooner>
Ah, after much delving, I found that I could use: Bundler.definition.specs_for([:default])
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<shevy>
hmm the main object in ruby is Object? Or in other words, when I have a small ruby file foo.rb and inside I do @foo = 5, the @foo instance variable always defaults to belong to class Object?
<shevy>
I am trying to find out the scope of such @instance_variables that are not associated with any class specifically
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<nofxx>
Just to be sure, but RUBY_PLATFORM says "x86_64-darwin" on mac ?
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<guns>
guns$ ruby -e "p RUBY_PLATFORM"
<guns>
"x86_64-darwin11.2.0"
<erikh>
anyone done any interpreter embedding before? any idea of what the base weight of ruby 1.9 is?
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<erikh>
3 megs good lord
<guns>
haha. Not gonna make it onto a microwave anytime soon.
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<erikh>
exactly
<erikh>
hrm. gonna have to think about this some
<erikh>
lua's... not being friendly and its wins are rapidly diminishing
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<guns>
making a game?
<erikh>
nah, an init replacement
<guns>
I wonder if Rite is in beta yet.
<erikh>
I could probably just give it a single mutable state interpreter
<bsmith_>
im a complete noob to ruby, ive looked at the docs and cant find a straight answer how do i grab all the modules needed to run a specific ruby script?
<bsmith_>
Installing ri documentation for connection_pool-0.1.0... Installing ri documentation for mechanize-2.1... Installing ri documentation for girl_friday-0.9.7... Installing RDoc documentation for connection_pool-0.1.0... Installing RDoc documentation for mechanize-2.1... Installing RDoc documentation for girl_friday-0.9.7... ben@ben-laptop:~/ffnet-grab$ ruby ffgrab.rb ffgrab.rb:1:in `require': no such file to load -- connection_poo
<bsmith_>
ive got connection_pool, or so i think, but it says it cant find it?!
<erikh>
you should take it up with the authors of the script
<erikh>
ruby doesn't really have many answers for you on this subject -- managing dependencies is a bit of a bear as-is.
<erikh>
so, documentation, sharp prodding of developers, or magical mystery guesswork
<erikh>
sorry :)
<erikh>
if they packaged it as a gem, you could install that and it would likely come with all the dependencies it needs.
<erikh>
it most certainly does not look that way
<bsmith_>
is there a way to repackage it as a gem now, or not
<erikh>
without knowing what the dependencies are it won't do much for you
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<erikh>
post a message to /b/, i'm sure someone will get back to you soon
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<apeiros_>
wow, a segmentation fault in net/http.rb (ruby 1.9.3-p0) in connect…
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<apeiros_>
andrewvos: and the first comment is wrong too in that article…
<andrewvos>
apeiros_: The one about protected
<andrewvos>
?
<apeiros_>
yes
<ddfreyne>
apeiros_: it is?
<apeiros_>
ddfreyne: it is wrong in saying that the only difference was allowing self.
<apeiros_>
the difference is that other objects of the same class can call your protected method too
<ddfreyne>
true
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<apeiros_>
oh, great, I commented on a 1 year old post…
<andrewvos>
apeiros_: haha didn't notice that
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<apeiros_>
this is annoying… `bundle` repeatedly segfaults in net/http…
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<apeiros_>
hrmpf, what was the rvm command again to list rubies available for installation?
<andrewvos>
rvm list known
<apeiros_>
aha, 1.9.3-p0 is still the newest 1.9.3 as it seems. at least after `rvm get head` I still get "Are you sure you wish to upgrade from ruby-1.9.3-p0 to ruby-1.9.3-p0" when doing `rvm upgrade ruby-1.9.3`
<andrewvos>
apeiros_: Just delete and reinstall ruby?
<manveru>
bundler must die
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<apeiros_>
manveru: the problem is net/http, not bundler
<manveru>
:)
<apeiros_>
reinstalled, still segfaults :(
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<ddfreyne>
Is there a way to show skipped tests in minitest?
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<rue>
You can skip tests?
<injekt>
yes, skip()
<rue>
Hm. Wouldn't -v show it?
<injekt>
yeah Skipped tests only output details in verbose mode
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<rue>
I dunno if skip is a better semantic than just failing it
<injekt>
heh, never used skip myself
<injekt>
it either passes or doesn't
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<ddfreyne>
I use skip in case a dependency isn’t available
<ddfreyne>
Is there a way to programmatically set verbose?
<rue>
Hm, that seems reasonable. Although I would prefer mspec-style guards or maybe tags
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<rue>
ddfreyne: MiniTest::Unit.runner?
<rue>
Cyclocross can't talk
<ddfreyne>
MiniTest::Unit.new.run %w( --verbose )
<ddfreyne>
works I guess… but then I get one line per test
<ddfreyne>
while I just want to get a list of skipped tests
<ddfreyne>
What is the point of a manifest.txt file that lists the contents of a package?
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<injekt>
ddfreyne: you just answered your question within the question
<ddfreyne>
injekt: ha
<rue>
The *intended* contents.
<ddfreyne>
injekt: not quite… that is what it *does*, but why is it necessary?
<ddfreyne>
rue: I know what it does
<injekt>
it's usually not
<injekt>
I never have a manifest file
<injekt>
unless I'm doing java jar stuff
<injekt>
which is ofc different
<ddfreyne>
So… a list of stuff that you know should be part of the package, and then a rake tasks that verifies whether the contents are okay?
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<ddfreyne>
Hm, hoe requires it
<injekt>
oO
<rue>
The point is that it's the intended contents. If you don't have those, something's wrong
<injekt>
really?
<ddfreyne>
[..] hoe does require a Manifest. This is a text file that lists the files to package in the gem. sow creates one for you with the basic set of files, and you can run rake check_manifest to see if you’ve created new files that aren’t mentioned in the Manifest.
<injekt>
heh
<kyrylo>
ddfreyne, by Asher "no it's for distributions of packages so if you get the package and suspect it's incomplete you can verify
<andrewvos>
bla bla bla
<injekt>
rubygems doesn't give a shit about manifest files
<ddfreyne>
doesn’t seem worth having though
<ddfreyne>
the only use case I can come up with is for package maintainers to double-check the files before publishing
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<andrewvos>
rue: But it works out how far it has travelled. So if you shoot yourself in the foot you just looked like a tool.
<andrewvos>
imperator: you did?
<imperator>
andrewvos, you owe me $1 because you just used it
<andrewvos>
imperator: Okay :(
<andrewvos>
"The bullets, which have to be made by hand at the moment, clock in at several hundred dollars each" <-- better make sure the person you shoot is damn well worth it.
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<rue>
File a bug
<apeiros_>
haha
<apeiros_>
nice one :)
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<matled>
I have a gem which provides mainly an executable, i.e. the lib files are not really intended to be reused at the moment. the executable should have a short name which is an abbreviation. should the gem and module rather have the name of the abbreviation or the full name?
<robgleeson>
matled: I'd say your executable should have the same name as the gem.
<rue>
It's generally best if the executable name matches the gem name, but see e.g. Bundler -> bundle &c.
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<matled>
I find a full descriptive name too long for the executable, so you'd suggest to name the gem and module the same?
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<robgleeson>
that's standard practice
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<rue>
Am I just stupid, or is Faraday's parallel API not documented at all?
<robgleeson>
probably the latter
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<apeiros_>
is that an exclusive or?
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<rue>
Aha, got it. Inconvenient :/
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<rue>
It's conn.in_parallel(Faraday::Adapter::Typhoeus.setup_parallel_manager) { # do stuff normally here }
<rue>
New maxim: if the code doesn't fit in a tweet, you need to refactor.
<erikh>
you have to pass it a specific adapter?
<erikh>
seems like an issue with encapsulation
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<rue>
They're fixing it
<erikh>
cool
<rue>
The problem is that the adapter is just another piece of middleware, so you'd need to look through the stack to find it
<erikh>
you'd think it's be a part of the connection
<erikh>
it'd*
<erikh>
I mean, independent of middleware
<erikh>
anyhow, I don't know the software, just thinking about it I guess.
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<erikh>
anyhow off for more TOR, this game is going to end my programming career
<robgleeson>
erikh: do you envision conn.adapter(:typhoeus) or something like that?
<erikh>
at least I'm having trouble seeing how a connection would have more than one connection adapter that actually establishes connections
<rue>
There's such a thing as too generic
<erikh>
yeah, that's why that sentence above is accidentally confusing
<erikh>
I could see the need for different connection adapters -- typoheus vs. curb or net/http or w/e, but combinations of them seems pointles
<erikh>
s
<erikh>
rue: have you ever embedded a ruby interpreter into a C program?
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<erikh>
anyhow, I'll check back later I suppose
<robgleeson>
erikh: If you want to talk to someone who has, check out #subtle, he has embedded ruby into a X11 WM.
<rue>
erikh: Not since 2005 or something. Apparently 1.9 behaves OK in its own thread.
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<rue>
s/apparently/supposedly/
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<lianj>
subtle is a single thread though
<jorgenpt>
rue: Does your maxim mean that you should make all your modules 2 characters long?
<jorgenpt>
Fa::Ad::Ty.setup_parallel_manager
<rue>
jorgenpt: You can condense the code reasonably
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<erikh>
robgleeson: rue: good to know, thanks
<erikh>
I'll check it out after killing some womp rats
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<bsmith>
i need some help reading this ruby code. Im trying to use it, but i can't figure out what it wants for arguments, it provides no output or file creation whatsoever, and it should be working https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/ffnet-grab
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<jorgenpt>
bsmith: I think it invokes WGET to do the actual downloading
<bsmith>
ok, i figured that out, but what does it need in terms of arguments, because when i run ruby hoard.rb i ge absolutely nothing
<bsmith>
it just hangs
<bsmith>
i synced the redis db to a complete copy, that someone else provided, so that should be fine, but now what do i run? i see sid everywhere is the code where is that defined, i cant findit
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<raggi>
seems like a big pile of ghetto
<erikh>
that's what I told him last night
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<rue>
Hmh, seems VCR could be improved a bit on the side of mocking and such.
<raggi>
it's the same with almost all that stuff
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<rue>
Of course it turns out that I wasn't really thinking and there's no point using Faraday-Typhoeus because I want to do further parallel processing…
<rue>
Or, hmm… maybe I could do it as a middleware
<rue>
Seems really iffy, though.
<rue>
Conceptually.
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<raggi>
rue: dude, you can do parallel with net-http really trivially
<raggi>
this BS of alternative implementations is just that: BS