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<freedrull> what open source project has the best tests you've ever seen
<injekt> mine!
<drbrain> mine
<injekt> not sure what best means
<injekt> which is of course why mine
<drbrain> I know what best means
<drbrain> which is of course why mine
<injekt> oh i see, but I just realized what it means too
<injekt> which is why mine
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<drbrain> those aren't bad, but why:
<drbrain> assert Slop.included_modules.include?(Enumerable)
<drbrain> instead of assert_includes ?
<erikh> is that the setjmp impl?
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<drbrain> (actually, at a glance they look pretty great)
<drbrain> erikh: YES
<injekt> drbrain: because i suck
<erikh> that's what my q was about from last night
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<erikh> I'm having tons of trouble debugging a longjmp() and was hoping to get some assistance from someone with better C-fu than I
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<drbrain> hehe
<freedrull> sloptest
<erikh> injekt: it does look nice
<freedrull> these are cool tests
<injekt> erikh: thanks :)
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<injekt> slop v3 is looking even nicer! boom
<erikh> needs more billy mays
<injekt> true true
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<erikh> fwiw I want to try it, I just haven't had any opportunities. all ruby == work code these days
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<injekt> I know the feeling
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<Banistergalaxy> Sup
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<bglusman> anyone here use guard-minitest?
<bglusman> guard-rspec works fine, but guard-minitest doesnt seem to work for me
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<erikh> ohai brian
<erikh> oh, he left
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<havenn> #ruby-lang
<ryanf> indeed
<bnagy> anyone around who could help me get the msgpack gem working for jruby, by any chance?
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<drbrain> bnagy: how is it not working?
<bnagy> won't build
<bnagy> mkmf stuff or something
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<drbrain> you might want to try #jruby
<drbrain> but, can you show gem_make.out?
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<bnagy> give me a sec, will log into those boxes and retry
<drbrain> http://blog.headius.com/2010/07/what-jruby-c-extension-support-means-to.html seems to say that jruby can build some C extensions
<bnagy> mkmf.rb can't find header files for ruby at /usr/local/rvm/rubies/jruby-head/lib/native/include/ruby/ruby.h
<drbrain> is that the whole log?
<drbrain> do you have files in /usr/local/rvm/rubies/jruby-head/lib/native/include/ruby ?
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<bnagy> sry got disc'ed... logging back in and looking (and yeah, that's the only relevant part of the log, it's like 3 lines)
<drbrain> do you have files in /usr/local/rvm/rubies/jruby-head/lib/native/include/ruby ?
<drbrain> or /usr/local/rvm/rubies/jruby-head/lib/native/include ?
<bnagy> ok include is missing from the jruby-head subdir
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<bnagy> alright, blindly cp'ing from another ruby's include/ isn't working :)
<bnagy> lemme try #jruby, cheers
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<shevy> hmm bit off topic ... how are the [ and ] characters called in english? parens also, like ( and ) ?
<shevy> '[' and ']'
<bnagy> 'square {braces|brackets}'
<shevy> ok thanks
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<goutham> [eventmachine] how to capture stdout, stderr in callback while using EM::DeferrableChildProcess
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<josh9> my domain object have an instance variable that can be nil/:dropped/:increased. each state will show different text on my site. where should i write the if/else statement that decide what to display based on the state? normally i would do that in the erb template, but it makes my template 'dirty', right? is there a better approach?
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<drbrain> a method on your domain object that spits out the correct text?
<drbrain> if it's more complicated than text, render a different partial?
<josh9> drbrain: i guess i can use a method that spits text, but i thought it's considered 'wrong' since this is a UI related thing.
<drbrain> josh9: IMO, if you were to implement two different views and they had to each choose this same text based on a field in your model you're doing it wrong
<drbrain> the model is the single unambiguous source for such information
<drbrain> however, if that means you need to add more than one line per case to your model, perhaps a different solution is waranted
<drbrain> or if you have to add more than, say, 10 different cases to your model
<josh9> drbrain: it's only 2 cases and it's a 1 liner.
<drbrain> yeah
<drbrain> so I'd put it in the model
<josh9> drbrain: isn't it couple that model to this specific ui?
<drbrain> josh9: I couldn't say without looking at the code
<josh9> if i'll ever consume this object from different interface, this method might not be relevent
<josh9> relevant
* drbrain nods
<josh9> the method that spits the text
<drbrain> from what you've said, I would put it on the model
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<josh9> ok. i'll give it a try. thanks
<drbrain> I'm not sure what all the Cool Kids think these days, though
<josh9> (:
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<drbrain> when I want to add a method and don't know where it goes I try to place it as close to the data it uses as possible
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<josh9> not bad - <%= product.update_message %>
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<ylluminate> i have some fairly precise floats that need to be emitted in json as floats, not as strings. presently they're showing up in scientific notation in the json output and when i pp the array elements. i'd like to simply emit 0.00001432 vs 1.432e-7
<ylluminate> how can i coax or coerce this to happen? doing a "%f" % float
<ylluminate> won't work because it yields a string
<rippa> but JSON is always a string
<andrewvos> Morning
<ylluminate> well, i don't know what to say then rippa. i am 100% not sure what happened earlier today, but at one point i had float w/o sci notation coming out and things were working dandy. then suddenly the notation reappeared and buggered it all up. i forced it as noted as a string with appropriate precision, and still no go
<rippa> what's wrong with scientific notation?
<ylluminate> all i know is everywhere i've been reading on this particular library i have to pull out ints and floats for the graph to draw properly
<ylluminate> the graphing library doesn't interpret scientific notation
<ryanf> ylluminate: you should try a different json library maybe. if it can't be a string, you're pretty much at the mercy of the library for how it chooses to represent numbers
<rippa> I see what you mean
<rippa> ylluminate: you can hack the resulting JSON
<rippa> just file off the quotes
<rippa> off the numbers
<rippa> that's way not pretty though
<ylluminate> hm. well the thing that gets me is that this was working properly at one point and then i don't know what changed from one moment to the next.
<ylluminate> i'm actually working in rails with the lazy_high_charts lib
<andrewvos> drbrain: ModelPresenter?
<andrewvos> Ok I'm walking away from my computer. The above statement was a joke. Just in case anyone argues it while I'm gone.
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<Tasser> how do I access the parsed html in mechanize?
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<regularfry> There's a zeromq binding gem out on the githubs somewhere which builds libzmq as part of the install, but I can't remember what it's called and can't find it. Ring any bells for anyone?
<darix> regularfry: intree libraries are broken by definition
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<regularfry> darix: I am sure you have your reasons for believing that
<rue> It's funny because it's true
<darix> install the library normally in your system and then let the gem pick it up from there
<darix> regularfry: it is a maintenance nightmare
<darix> instead of fixing one copy of the library you will fix n copies
<darix> (when you are even aware of the other copies)
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<regularfry> my choices are either a) install from OS package, in which case I get an out-of date library and have to lock myself to a gem version which is *also* out-of-date and not getting any attention, b) roll my own OS package, take responsibility for it and the gem, or c) install a gem.
<regularfry> Given the choice, I'll go for c) - especially where I've already got a system for doing the gem -> OS package conversion.
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<darix> lazyness ftw
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<Tasser> is there a gem for a worker pool?
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<sush24> hi all... i need to synthesize audio with ruby... are there any libraries that can help me?
<sush24> it for a simple application...
<sush24> here's the idea.... i have some data coming in... eg (2,3, -2 etc)... I should get an audio track proportional to that data
<sush24> 2 = 2 magnitude on the left channel
<sush24> -2 = 2 magnitude on the right channel
<sush24> something like that
<sush24> Marionette will help me generate sine waves...
<sush24> is this possible?
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<brahmana> Hi all
<brahmana> How can I dynamically define an instance method from within a class method?
<rippa> brahmana: Module#define_method
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<brahmana> rippa: I tried that, but when I call the dynamic method I get a no-method error..
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<brahmana> and respond_to?(:dynamic_method) is returning false
<rippa> show your code
<brahmana> just a sec
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<brahmana> rippa: http://pastie.org/3160174
<brahmana> This MyModule gets included in the class
<rippa> where's class method?
<rippa> I only see instance methods
<brahmana> the add_field method
<brahmana> It's railish code. The modue ActiveSupport::Concern makes sure that the methods defined under the sub-module ClassMethods actually become class methods when included
<rippa> maybe you should ask in #rails then?
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<brahmana> aah.. not really.. if you just disregard the ActiveSupport::Concern part (which is just a syntactic sugar).. it is pretty much a ruby question..
<rippa> so is it the same as MyClass.extend MyModule::ClassMethods ?
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<rippa> welp, looks like it should work anyway
<brahmana> yeah.. I just stripped out the ActiveSupport::Concern part and did a simple extend and it seems to work
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<andrewvos> Hmm when I'm under 1.9.2 in rvm pry still uses 1.8.7 wtf?
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<whitequark> andrewvos: $ which ruby
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<whitequark> andrewvos: also, check if you have two rvm source'ing lines in .bashrc, that happens sometimes
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<akahn> I'm trying to simulate redis being unavailable by making the server block while my code block executes. I think I might be misunderstanding how to use threads though. Can anyone tell me why this code might not work as I expect it to? https://gist.github.com/e1ff97cd9e1138cc6d97
<bougyman> lookin
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<bougyman> the thread won't block until t.join
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<akahn> I don't want the thread to block, I want commands to redis to block. what I expect is that calling this method will take only a split second, as long as the block I pass to it is fast to execute. but instead, it takes the full five seconds.
<akahn> as soon as I lpush onto the list, redis should pop off the list, and stop blocking
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<outoftime> anyone here know a lot about rmagick?
<akahn> i thought maybe i needed to use a separate client instance for the background thread
<akahn> let me try that again
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<akahn> yep, if I use a different redis client instance, this works as I expect. let me update the gist
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<akahn> on second thought, that doesn't work as expected. `with_redis_unavailable { Redis.new.ping }` should raise an error, but instead the method returns successfully
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<akahn> Can I make a StringIO object that doesn't have EOF? I want to simulate the behavior of ARGF and continue to append lines to the IO object while my code continues to consume the stream
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<akahn> I guess I need an actual IO object
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<vereteran> i have json with keys using ' instead of ". can i somehow tell json parser that ' should be used instead of " ?
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<shevy> vereteran probably not, if it is ruby syntax
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<vereteran> problem: {'all': [123,123,123]} instead of {"all": [123,123,123]} - that doesn't parse :( can i somehow make json parser to understand ' same as "? or fix json on the fly somehow?
<confounds> vereteran find/replace?
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<vereteran> confounds, won't do, text may contain quotes either
<confounds> or use a different parser if that one can't do it
<vereteran> confounds, i've tried standard ruby parser and yajl, both have same issues
<confounds> vereteran think there are still some other popular ones
<confounds> seems like there should be some easy way though
<manveru> using ' instead of " is invalid json
<manveru> so you better tell whoever made it :)
<vereteran> manveru, i know, but can't do anything about it. this response comes from remote server
<confounds> whose server
<vereteran> manveru, they don't care. their argument is: browser can parse it -> its valid
<manveru> you can kinda work around it, if the responses don't contain other strings
<manveru> meh
<manveru> then it's javascript, not json
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<manveru> and only works with eval, not JSON.parse either
<confounds> that could be a workable solution though
<confounds> first parse as javascript
<manveru> js> JSON.parse("['bar']")
<manveru> typein:2: SyntaxError: JSON.parse
<manveru> js> JSON.parse('["bar"]')
<manveru> ["bar"]
<manveru> that's spidermonkey, anyway
<manveru> err, whatever monkey they use these days
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<erikh> not sure why more plumbing projects aren't called "monkey wrench"
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<singpolyma> can someone tell me why one of these works and the other doesn't? http://pastie.org/3161522
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<burgestrand> singpolyma: { } have different precedence than do … end
<corsican> what's "func"
<burgestrand> singpolyma: if you place parentheses around the argument with {} it’ll work
<singpolyma> corsican: some function
<singpolyma> burgestrand: right
<corsican> oh ok, that's confusing
<corsican> considering it's not valid
<burgestrand> singpolyma: also, in ruby we’re calling them methods :)
<singpolyma> corsican: which? you mean the syntax is wrong? yes, that's what the question was about :)
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<singpolyma> I think ruby 1.8 might have had slightly different rules, but I haven't worked in DSLs for awhile
<burgestrand> no, should be same thing there
<burgestrand> singpolyma: in effect, since the {} binds tighter it’ll be interpreted as you passing a block to the /expr/ literal
<burgestrand> singpolyma: and "/expr/ { |el| doit }" is a syntax error
<singpolyma> burgestrand: right, ok
<burgestrand> singpolyma: try to use a variable instead of /expr/, it’ll give you a different result :)
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<MrPunkin> would this be the proper way to test an integer if it is evenly divisible by 100 : http://pastie.org/3161744
<drbrain> i % 100
<MrPunkin> sure enough. Thanks for simplifying that for me
<drbrain> MrPunkin: if it's just one line, paste it in channel
<drbrain> unless it's a ridiculous golf line
<shevy> hehe
<shevy> let's all come up with ridiculous golf linves!
<shevy> ehm *lines too!
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<rue> Wasn't the point to come up with a single line?
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<shevy> single lines are hard
<shevy> imagine if someone would forbid the newline character
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<imperator> alright you bit fiddlers, what am i doing wrong? https://gist.github.com/1590688
<apeiros_> everything!
<apeiros_> you use class vars…
* imperator rips out apeiros' heart and tosses over the side
<imperator> NEXT!
<shevy> ok
* shevy rips out apeiros_' liver and tosses it over the side
<apeiros_> imperator: gamma = 3? shouldn't it be 4?
<shevy> NEXT!
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<imperator> apeiros_, oh, there is that
<imperator> hm, seems to work then
<apeiros_> yay, what a luck I never had a heart…
* imperator sends apeiros_ off to see the wizard
<imperator> alright, well, that's weird; in some actual code i seem to get dupes
<rue> #map?
<rue> #each_with_object? #inject?
<apeiros_> imperator: http://pastie.org/3161994
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<apeiros_> untested, but you get the idea :)
<apeiros_> ah, damit, select needs a block, that's evil :(
<imperator> speaking of one liners, eh? wow
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<apeiros_> hm, could go the other way round, shorter code…
<apeiros_> moment…
<rue> I'm not sure that's an improvement
<rue> Readability-wise
<apeiros_> imperator: http://pastie.org/3161994
<apeiros_> bah, readability is overrated!!!!!!1!1!!
<shevy> hehe
<shevy> let's turn back the evolutionary clock
<shevy> and all use Java
<apeiros_> punch-cards!
<apeiros_> debugging must have been awesome back then…
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<imperator> apeiros_, that's nicer, thanks
<shevy> hmm didn't you use hyperpunch language
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<imperator> that must have been before duckpunching became popular
<shevy> lol
<shevy> duck the type, punch the type
<apeiros_> punch the hype
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<imperator> man this is weird
<apeiros_> just punch it!
<imperator> basically i'm converting fs traits to strings, e.g. MNT_NOSUID to "nosuid"
<imperator> works fine for all the mount points, except for the dvd, where it repeats a couple values
* imperator tries to come up with some sample code
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<apeiros_> imperator: btw., there are some bitfield/flag/bitset implementations iirc
<rue> Yus
<imperator> that's osx; oh, and make sure you've got a dvd in the drive if you have one handy
<akahn> Where is the documentation for Thread.new? http://ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.2/Thread.html
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<apeiros_> imperator: difficult without a dvd-drive :)
<imperator> oops, had to make one modification
<apeiros_> and you still use class-vars!!!!!!1!1!
<apeiros_> they'll eventually bite you…
<imperator> maybe i'm into that
<drbrain> imperator: works for me (but I don't have a DVD handy)
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<imperator> drbrain, i see /home with "automounted" twice actually, no dvd required
<drbrain> I only have one /home
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<drbrain> /, /dev, /Volumes/MobileBackups, /net, /home
<imperator> drbrain, me, too; /home comes back with "nobrowse, local, nosuid, automounted, automounted"
<drbrain> I just have nobrowse, automounted
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<imperator> so it's working fine for you? huh
<drbrain> here's my full output: http://paste.segment7.net/qc.html
<imperator> and that matches the output of the mount command? well, more or less - i don't put "hfs", "devfs" in the output
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<drbrain> yeah
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<imperator> well frickity frack
<drbrain> mount doesn't claim "journaled" for devfs
<drbrain> I that's the only discrepancy of note
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<imperator> blargh
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<imperator> dammit, that flags &= ~key should be outside the if clause
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<rue> Oh, you hadn't solved it yet?
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<imperator> rue, you seem a decent fellow, i'd hate to have to hurt you
* apeiros_ whistles "should have used my code, lalala…"
* apeiros_ grins
* apeiros_ ducks, hides, runs - whatever works…
<rue> imperator: :D
<imperator> apeiros_, can't because the don't match the constant names in this case
<imperator> er, the constant names don't match the strings
<apeiros_> o0
<apeiros_> my code didn't rely on the constant names…
<imperator> oh, nm, forget that
<rue> I dunno why, but today's been a hilarious day
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<whatasunnyday> I'm trying to write a cron job using the whenever gem to execute one of my ruby scripts. I'm not using this in a Rails application, its just running a specific ruby file. I installed whenever, created a directory called config and added a file with schedule.rb that read require 'whenever' and every 1.minute do puts "hello" end. I tried getting it to run as a test, any idea how to get it going?
<whatasunnyday> If I type "whenever" it puts Hello on on the screen Above is your schedule file converted to cron syntax; your crontab file was not updated."
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<drbrain> whatasunnyday: seems like a complicated way to write * * * * * /usr/bin/ruby -e 'puts "hello"
<whatasunnyday> dbrain, you're probably right
<whatasunnyday> i guess i'm not very familiar with the unix environment
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<whatasunnyday> and i'm trying to find a more approachable way to deal with cron
<drbrain> yeah
<drbrain> I used the whenever gem once and hated it
<erikh> two snaps in a counter-clockwise circle.
<erikh> HATED IT
<drbrain> there was about 3x more typing to get whenever to work than to write the line in the crontab
<drbrain> and it could only run at 0-based times
<apeiros_> whatasunnyday: `man cron`
<whatasunnyday> well, drbrain, do you mind if i give learning a cron a shot
<whatasunnyday> and asking you a question if i need help later?
<drbrain> man 5 crontab
<imperator> erikh, nice
<apeiros_> also `man crontab`
<erikh> men on film: best sketch ever
<whatasunnyday> okay, i'll do some reading
<headius> two snaps with a twist and a kiss
<imperator> whatasunnyday, you coming from windows?
<whatasunnyday> or really any of you fellows. i'm not sure if it is appropiate to ask cron questions in a ruby channel.
<whatasunnyday> yeah
<whatasunnyday> but not in a development sense
<whatasunnyday> i installed linux mint
<whatasunnyday> learning to program
<whatasunnyday> college student, etc
<rue> Cron's really easy in the sense that when you forget which field is which, you'll just check the manual
<imperator> meh, it's much simpler, but less flexible, than windows' scheduler
<rue> Windows has a scheduler?
<erikh> yes
<nofxx> rue, how do you think they manage to fuck everything over the time without one?
<rue> C:\bsod.exe
<nofxx> viruses need timing ;)
<erikh> no, they just need vba
<erikh> well the modern class of viruses
<rue> whatasunnyday: The only other thing to remember is that Cron jobs don't run in your normal environment
<nofxx> My town (lil) town has 20k hab, and we got 5+ pc shops that the greatest revenue is the $30 windows reinstall
<whatasunnyday> what?
<nofxx> that's how windows wins... feeding tech support families
<imperator> yeah but at least the wireless works :-P
<erikh> ha
<nofxx> imperator, hehe.. but that's old, there's tons of wifi fw bundled now days (or pkg get easy)
<erikh> I like some of windows. other parts I vehemently dislike
<erikh> it's always a mix of love and hate
<erikh> and sometimes revulsion
<nofxx> gladly never had to work on it, it's just "lets see that new game" ...
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<imperator> i think they got services right
<erikh> yeah, agreed
<erikh> and for the most part I also only use windows as a wintendo
<nofxx> erikh, hahah exaclty
<erikh> I did some stuff with it a while ago at $some_job as a server class, it has high points
<erikh> anyhow why am I talking about this in a ruby channel
<nofxx> my grub reads: 0. Archilnux 1. Arcade
<nofxx> not sure realy the name in english... where there is tons of arcade machines?
<drbrain> arcade
<nofxx> hahaha...
<imperator> TIL you can alias a function in ffi's attach_function
<nofxx> drbrain, hehe no nickname? slug ? Here we know it as "Fliper"
<erikh> pinball
<erikh> everything else is on the xbox anyhow
<nofxx> old days, 28k modem playing red alert over dial up... was incredible
<drbrain> but a bunch of pinball machines would be in an arcade
<erikh> oh! they have a pinball museum here in the bay area (alameda to be precise)
<erikh> correct
<erikh> it's *awesome*
<drbrain> nofxx: I did that!
<drbrain> and Descent!
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<erikh> yes!
<erikh> actually we figured out that you could connect two modems together and send the right AT command set to get them to operate as a null modem
<nofxx> drbrain, just when you finished your structures, got the tanks waiting for, someone tries to use the phone!
<erikh> then we played DOOM
<erikh> basically you had to trick the modems into not caring about a dialtone
<whitequark> er
<erikh> yes.
<whitequark> am I suddenly in 1995?
<nofxx> erikh, damn... that would have changed my life.... days and days trying LPT connect
<nofxx> ITS EVIL, ITS WRONG
<whitequark> ah, you're not doing that now.
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<apeiros_> nofxx: whose evil, whose wrong?
<nofxx> apeiros_, parallel ports
<erikh> parallel ports were a bitch to use
<nofxx> used my old athlon 1ghz for the parallel last year, burned a usb chip burner heheh... chicken egg situation, you can't program chips via USB without one preprogrammed...
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<nofxx> erikh, only happiness parallel gave me ever
<whatasunnyday> Quick question, once I write something to crontab, will cron automatically starting executing it?
<drbrain> whitequark: yes
<drbrain> you need to use the crontab to do the edit, though
<whatasunnyday> yeah, i did crontab -e
<drbrain> good
<whatasunnyday> added a command
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<whatasunnyday> not seeing it go, but i think i know the problem
<drbrain> it should send you mail
<drbrain> if your machine doesn't deliver mail to you, you may need to run `mail`
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<drbrain> or whatever linux has
<whatasunnyday> hmm, doesn't look it supports mail..
<whatasunnyday> drbrain, can i send you a quick pm?
<drbrain> sure
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<imperator> cron failures get logged in /var/log or something, too, iirc
<whatasunnyday> ooh
<whatasunnyday> good to know
<whitequark> drbrain: why do I need crontab?
<whitequark> err
<whitequark> nevermind
<drbrain> crontab makes sure your syntax is correct (but not your command)
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<whitequark> drbrain: I know how crontab works. I just have wondered what does it have to do with me.
<whitequark> irssi highlighted my nick, and so on
<imperator> whitequark, i assume it was a tab autocomplete goof
<drbrain> whitequark: probably a bad tab completion on my part
<drbrain> yup
<drbrain> my bad ☹
<whitequark> sure
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<andrewvos> Boring in here lately.
<andrewvos> rue: Say something snarky
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<esufan> tutthreads_4.rb:6:in `block (2 levels) in <main>': undefined method `net' for Ne
<esufan> t::HTTP:Class (NoMethodError)
<drbrain> Net::HTTP.new?
<andrewvos> get?
<esufan> wow, sorry guys
<esufan> X:
<drbrain> esufan: HELPING‼
<drbrain> :D
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<shevy> andrewvos it's never boring!
<shevy> you just need to find projects that you can work on for a prolonged period of time... something interesting, something fascinating!
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<drbrain> something tedious!
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