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<akiwiguy|dv6>
hello
<akiwiguy|dv6>
wolfspraul: i have enough money to get my NanoNote now, i think :D
<kristianpaul>
why haven ordered then !!
<kristianpaul>
havent*
<kristianpaul>
hi akiwiguy|dv6
<akiwiguy|dv6>
hello kristianpaul
<akiwiguy|dv6>
because i'm not quite sure about shipping to NZ
<kristianpaul>
i think wolfspraul is in different time zone those days so well i think you better write a mail to him if is very urgent
<kristianpaul>
I see
<kristianpaul>
New Zealand
<kristianpaul>
* Mar 2010: Sharism shipment of 1 NanoNote from Hong Kong to New Zealand, FedEx Economy, S&H cost USD 19.27, delivered in 6 days after pickup. * Jun 2010: Sharism shipment of 1 NanoNote from Hong Kong to New Zealand, FedEx Priority, S&H cost USD 27.60, delivered 3½ days after pickup.
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<whitequark>
an entirely offtopic question here
<whitequark>
(for those of you who're native speakers of English) does "Roomie" sound like a (nick)name for you? or is it clear that the word is derivative?
<akiwiguy|dv6>
sounds fine to me
<akiwiguy|dv6>
hmm
<akiwiguy|dv6>
what timezone is wolfspraul in?
<whitequark>
akiwiguy|dv6: thanks
<whitequark>
akiwiguy|dv6: (wolfspraul) afaik it's either germany or china. probably the former now, but I'm not sure
<akiwiguy|dv6>
hmm
<akiwiguy|dv6>
one of my friends in germany is still awake
<whitequark>
his rdns (.t-dialin.net) means it's probably germany
<akiwiguy|dv6>
though he is a uni student and tends to never sleep very much ever
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<whitequark>
time to learn kicad.
<whitequark>
(or maybe geda?..)
<wpwrak>
(roomie) you'd normally indicate whose roommate this is, which would resolve any ambiguity
<whitequark>
wpwrak: I'm translating a webcomic, and it is used like a name
<whitequark>
but there's no equivalent grammatical/lexical construct in Russian
<whitequark>
i.e. you cannot say "roomie" where you'd normally say a name so that it won't sound weird
<whitequark>
even worse, there is no equivalent to affectionate diminutive form of "roommate" at all
<whitequark>
at least anything that won't sound archaic
<wpwrak>
ah, the joy of translating idiomatic uses from one language to another :)
<whitequark>
the worst of all, it's the protagonist :D
<whitequark>
*the protagonist's name
<whitequark>
http://gogetaroomie.chloe-art.com/, through I doubt you'll be interested. I'm doing that mostly because of the challenge of translation
<whitequark>
more on-topic
<whitequark>
I'm currently looking at gEDA
<whitequark>
particularly gschem
<whitequark>
looks like it can do anything I ever wanted Eagle to do
<whitequark>
and it has a slightly less braindead approach to components
<whitequark>
i.e. separate symbol and packages
<whitequark>
and, finally, a selector where you can find anything in less than a hour
<whitequark>
what do you think about it? is gschem/gpcb or kicad a way to go?
<wpwrak>
many years ago, i used gEDA a bit and found its schematics capture inconvenient and the layout tool usable but not really scalable. then kicad came along and i swiched. didn't look back.
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<rjeffries>
Just saw this, and pimped it on my G+ account [ronkjeffries]
* GordonFreeman
wondering why there isn't any non crap pcb editor for linux
<roh>
eagle and kicad.
<wpwrak>
GordonFreeman: kicad's pcbnew is pretty decent. just lacks a push router.
<GordonFreeman>
eagle is opensource now?
<roh>
geda has nice ideas but its like having duplo when you know lego technic
<wpwrak>
;-))
<roh>
GordonFreeman: nope. but its avail for linux
<GordonFreeman>
aha i see
<GordonFreeman>
tried kicad like 1 years ago, and it was crap then
<roh>
v6 switched the fileformat to xml to allow 3rd party tools access stuff easier
<roh>
on eagle.. but its still a closed commercial app
<GordonFreeman>
and there is that "PCB" named thing, but still unusable
<GordonFreeman>
probably coder electronic engineers don't use linux, and don't write pcb editors
<wpwrak>
while some are still complaining, others have been making working circuits for years with it. ymmv ;-)
<rjeffries>
wpwrak doesn't us "crap" tools. He makes 'em dance. the limbo.
<GordonFreeman>
i'd never start using some junk
<roh>
wpwrak: ack. we use eagle atm but also with a full license file (ccc has some 30+ seats)
<rjeffries>
s/us/use
<qi-bot>
rjeffries meant: "wpwrak doesn't use "crap" tools. He makes 'em dance. the limbo."
<GordonFreeman>
btw x-fig was almost usable as a schematic designer
<roh>
i'd like using kicad but it needs to be much more 'release-y' that it would work for colaborating in my circles.. everybody has some 5.3x eagle...
<wpwrak>
roh: i wouldn't touch non-free tools, though :) we did quite a few enhancements in kicad
<GordonFreeman>
it only has minor lolnesses, like i had to hack the scroll directions
<GordonFreeman>
and it would need additional logic
<roh>
wpwrak: sure.. no questions... my issue is that i cannot define what other people use. and since i do not want to build some git-revision of kicad for osx and win32....
<GordonFreeman>
wpwrak<< are you kicad dev?
<roh>
GordonFreeman: on opensource every real user is a dev ;)
<GordonFreeman>
no, a user is a user
<wpwrak>
GordonFreeman: i've contributed some small things over the years. e.g., the "magnetic" pads and traces
<roh>
GordonFreeman: you have to read the last sentence in a 'in soviet russia'-voice *veg*
<GordonFreeman>
roh<< a user does not even have to know anything about programming
<roh>
heh. you are so naive.. somehow i envy that *ducks*
<roh>
but in the end that would explain a lot of badly designed hw... people on the CAE who do not code also.
<GordonFreeman>
i believe most pcb software are crap because programmers don't design pcbs
<roh>
hm. any ideas about a good gif editor for linux? for doing animated icons etc... gimp works but somehow its not 'it' for such stuff
<GordonFreeman>
even if they are good programmers
<GordonFreeman>
imagemagick
<GordonFreeman>
inkscape
<roh>
not pixel editors. converters i have plenty
<roh>
i need easier copying/stiching over multiple frames.. duplicating layers and pushing pixels manually isnt it... i am missing animation features like moving masks of objects for 'n' frames etc
<GordonFreeman>
imagemagick can convert
<GordonFreeman>
scriptable.
<roh>
its still no editor
<GordonFreeman>
sure it does not protect against that
<GordonFreeman>
061324] <maguoji> the file Makefile is created from Makefile.in?
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<pabs3>
synfig is vector stuff
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<roh>
hm.. ktoon and pencil isnt it
<roh>
feels weird and incomplete
<roh>
synfigstudio seems nice, but needs more time to understand
<roh>
i guess i could just dissect all my animated item elements into atomics and then make them layers which only get transformed from frame to frame in synfig
<pabs3>
what are you trying to create?
<roh>
animated icons. googling for 'sprite editor' doesnt help much
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