<kristoffer> wolfspraul, Couldnt there be an meter of som sort on the webpage stating number of bens sold?
<wolfspraul> kristoffer: bens sold :-)
<wolfspraul> I think it's roughly 700 now
<wolfspraul> not so easy to make a meter, there are also distributor with stock
<rafa> xiangfu: yeah, I cloned it
<xiangfu> rafa: here is how to compile uboot in openwrt : http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Bootloader#Compile
<xdpirate> Hiya! I'm thinking of getting a NanoNote, anyone available to answer a couple of questions? :)
<zear> me :)
<xdpirate> look it's zear
<xdpirate> nvm then
<xdpirate> xD
<zear> ;P
<xdpirate> first off
<xdpirate> do programs compiled for dingux run without recompiling them for the ben?
<zear> most of them
<xdpirate> since it's basically the same platform
<xdpirate> sweet
<zear> some of the emulators don't
<xdpirate> is sdl ported to it?
<zear> don't know what is the problem
<zear> yes
<xdpirate> sweet
<zear> but many dingux apps are statically linked
<zear> so they use their own sdl libs
<xdpirate> true
<xdpirate> this might sound odd, but are you able to use the toolchain for it on the device itself?
<xdpirate> (code and compile on the go!)
<zear> theoretically yes
<zear> but i don't think somebody ported gcc for it
<zear> yet
<xdpirate> ah
<xdpirate> cos it would be sweet if i was somewhere w/o access to a computer, code little snippets and compile them :P
<zear> yep
<zear> but the compilation time would be long
<xdpirate> does it have good battery life? something a la the dingoo?
<zear> it uses a standard nokia battery
<xdpirate> how many mAh is on the battery?
<zear> so it depends on the battery
<xdpirate> ah
<xdpirate> the old fat ones or the newer flat ones?
<zear> the one that comes with it is 850mAh
<xdpirate> got a few of those lying around from busted old phones
<tuxbrain> opening a nanonote to answer the batteries
<tuxbrain> li-ion 850mAh
<xdpirate> sweet, i guess 850 mAh is good enough for a terminal emulator :3
<tuxbrain> arround 6-7 hours of working time
<xdpirate> perfect
<xdpirate> even if i can't compile on the device, i'd like to code on the go, is there a text-editor with syntax highlighting?
<tuxbrain> regarding compilation, Debian distribution can compile just "apt-get install build-essential"
<kyak> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apOUKCa4YWg - liked the video.. there is debian on this NN, so i guess, gcc is ported automatically
<xdpirate> that sounds great
<xdpirate> any disadvantages of using debian instead of openwrt?
<tuxbrain> kyak:thanks :)
<tuxbrain> debian is BIG
<kyak> tuxbrain: that's your video, isn't it? :)
<tuxbrain> Openwrt is light
<xdpirate> i see
<xdpirate> i'd probably use debian if it can compile tho ;)
<tuxbrain> kyak: yep :) proud true metal power of steel
<xdpirate> on the wiki it says it's got "USB device", is this a usb host enabled port?
<tuxbrain> xdpirate: when the next uboot release I'm thinking on a perfect solution of having debian on SD and openwrt on flash
<xdpirate> connecting a mini-mouse would be icing on the cake
<zear> xdpirate, it's the same deal as the dingoo
<tuxbrain> no usb host
<xdpirate> tuxbrain, nice :D
<xdpirate> aw, ok
<xdpirate> well, doesn't matter too much, I'm fine with just the keyboard
<xdpirate> is overclocking the processor possible?
<xdpirate> nvm, found out by googling
<xdpirate> zear, are the keyboard buttons clicky like the a320s shoulder buttons? :p
<tuxbrain> xdpirate: playing with clock is  posible but not recomended, example LCD at low rates start flikering, and higher rates can just burn something . doen't worth the risk for a hundred of Mhz
<zear> hell no, they're a good quality
<xdpirate> zear, awesome, and tuxbrain, i see, i won't be doing that then :P
<xdpirate> well it's settled then
<tuxbrain> overall quality of the device is really nice, sems more german than chinese :P
<xdpirate> i'm getting one ^^
<zear> tuxbrain, can you clock the cpu only, without lcd and so on?
<tuxbrain> Don't know, lars is your man :P
<zear> or maybe the flickerings are because gmenu2x uses jz4740 overclock code
<zear> instead of jz4720
<zear> because i just made a straight port from the dingoo, leaving the cpu code intact
<xdpirate> did ya'll buy the nn from sharism.cc?
<tuxbrain> where ar you from?
<xdpirate> me? norway
<zear> xdpirate, hard to tell, i bought a dev model, long before sharims was selling them
<zear> it came directly from china
<xdpirate> nice
<xdpirate> $40 shipping :<
<tuxbrain> you can buy at tuxbrain.com
<xdpirate> tuxbrain, how much is the shipping?
<tuxbrain> let me check
<tuxbrain> 14.12¬ (1-2 days)shipping + 85.34¬ = 99.46¬ not vat or customs feeds included
<tuxbrain> Norway is not part of EU, so you will have to pay your local taxes on arrival
<xdpirate> wait what, your product page says €99 for the unit? =P
<xdpirate> electronics are duty free
<tuxbrain> 99 with Vat included
<tuxbrain> so then your are lucky
<xdpirate> €99 + €14.12 = €113.12 ~= $138.15
<xdpirate> on sharism.cc it's $136.41 x]
<tuxbrain> not, without Vat is  85.34¬
<xdpirate> but i'm paying vat?
<xdpirate> to you
<tuxbrain> your are not from EU
<mstevens> tuxbrain: how's nanonote sales going?
<tuxbrain> :) slowering better and better but not to buy a ferrary yet _P
<tuxbrain> :P
<xdpirate> so, what are you actually charging for it? i'll handle duties and taxes here if applicable
<tuxbrain> 4.12¬ (1-2 days)shipping + 85.34¬ = 99.46¬
<xdpirate> so that's the grand total, yeah?
<tuxbrain> sorry 14.12¬ (1-2 days)shipping + 85.34¬ = 99.46¬
<tuxbrain> 99.46¬
<xdpirate> yeah, it's cheaper than sharism then :3
<xdpirate> i might buy one in the coming days
<xdpirate> do you provide a tracking number btw?
<tuxbrain> remember me in the order comments and I will send it to you by mail
<mstevens> tuxbrain: that photo on your site of many nanonotes is a bad influence, I keep wanting to buy enough to recreate it
<tuxbrain> hehehe :) I can offer you a big order discount ;)
<xdpirate> ok tuxbrain, i normally don't trust these random internet shops without checking them out extensively first, but it seems like you know what you're talking about, and you're a proper reseller instead of a scammer ;)
<mstevens> xdpirate: I bought a nanonote from tuxbrain and it turned up!
<xdpirate> rofl, awesome
<mstevens> I think his order status notification emails are a bit cryptic from what I remember, but otherwise no problems,.
<xdpirate> lawl, as long as i get a tracking number i'm fine :3
<zear> xdpirate, i got from tuxbrain an unrelated item (wiz) and it came in the next day :)
<sanderr> xdpirate: I bought one from tuxbrain too, and it showed up in 2 working days.
<tuxbrain> xdpirate: glad giving you that impresion :)
<xdpirate> >:D
<xdpirate> alrighty so yeah, i'm ordering one right now
<sanderr> Woohoo, another NN out in the wild. :)
<xdpirate> :P
<tuxbrain> cool :)  one more to the hacking party
<zear> one less from your storehouse :D
<xdpirate> hehe
<zear> tuxbrain, are they selling well?
<mstevens> I'm tempted to buy a lemote at the moment but I don't think I can quite afford it
<tuxbrain> just to not be dissapointed at first boot, the OS that comes by default is a little bit old, you should better reflash to the last image release
<xdpirate> yeah i'll probably be smacking debian on it, first thing
<mstevens> I should see about getting debian on mine
<zear> xdpirate, dingux's scummvm works fine on it, add powder, doom and frotz and you have all you need :)
<mstevens> or at least the most recent qi image
<xdpirate> zear, sweet, i'll be playing BASS and monkey island
<zear> sam&max randomly crashes during the game for some reason, but other games should work fine
<zear> but i haven't tried neither bass nor monkey island
<xdpirate> i'm a Beneath a Steel Sky junkie
<xdpirate> I have it on every single one of my devices
<tuxbrain> ooooh sam&max!!!!
<xdpirate> I've got it on my smartphone, PC, DS, Dingoo A320 and my android tablet
<tuxbrain> gadget junkie!
<xdpirate> x]
<xdpirate> i returned my android tablet today tho
<xdpirate> wifi was busted
<zear> i completed the whole sam&max on the dingoo, so no idea why it crashes on the nanonote
<zear> maybe out of ram problems?
<zear> (nanonote has a little less free ram)
<mstevens> Have you seen these stories about the chinese "iped"
<tuxbrain> nop any link?
<mstevens> it's a sort of ipad knockoff
<mstevens> runs android
<xdpirate> tuxbrain, I just ordered now
<xdpirate> get your ass in gear and send it already
<xdpirate> :D
<tuxbrain> xdpirate: I will ship it tomorrow, so at last you will should get it at the end of this week :)
<xdpirate> tuxbrain, thanks mate :) glad to see a reseller who's actively involved with the community
<xdpirate> Mantener el buen trabajo!
<tuxbrain> hehehe let me guess, google has help you on that translation :P
<xdpirate> yup ;)
<xdpirate> next time you hear me saying something in spanish, it'd be from the spanish dictionary on my nanonote
<xdpirate> :P
<tuxbrain> xdpirate: here, the engineer, the marketing, the costumers, the vamping resellers, users, soft developers , manufacturers and even the few trolls are part of the comunity :)
<xdpirate> wow, qi hardware has trolls?
<xdpirate> awesome
<xdpirate> i just got an idea for a game
<xdpirate> :3
<tuxbrain> trolls are every where.
<tuxbrain> sometimes like to trolling just for fun ... spanish culture carateristic I guess :P
<kyak> xdpirate: i guess you lucky bastard will be getting your NN faster than me -\ My parcel is in GUANGZHOU right now, I hope it will be coming to Russia within a week or maybe two
<xdpirate> kyak, aw, too bad, you should've ordered from tuxbrain :P
<kyak> i'm not sure it would've been faster :) also, i ordered an SDW-823 Wi-Fi card from sharism to ship it together with NN
<kyak> tuxbrain: out of interest. could you please check the shipment cost to Russia?
<tuxbrain> kyak, not shipping to russia :( sorry, the courirer agency I usually use there only ships if destination is a company, and customs there allways with problems, so finally we agree with sharims they will ship directly there until some local distributor wants to sell nanonotes there :)
<kyak> i see.. yeah, customs and problems have become synonyms lately
<tuxbrain> vegyraupe: hi!
<tuxbrain> the FSFE interview has finally being released :) http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/?p=109
<vegyraupe> tuxbrain: yay! great!
<vegyraupe> tuxbrain: congrats
<tuxbrain> a warm geek proud , is invades myself each time I see the my pic in the FSFE blog :P
<tuxbrain> and the proud also becomes enourmous ego when thanks to the intervies some guys at CERN contacts me to talk about open hardware licencese... yay! the f&"ng CERN!
<tuxbrain> vegyraupe: you have gained a special strong spinebreaker bear hug when I see you again
<vegyraupe> tuxbrain: hehe :)
<vegyraupe> tuxbrain: I'll make sure to remind you ;)
<jlmoko_> tuxbrain,  I notified you on this same chanell this morning noon f
<jlmoko_> ~/morning//
<jlmoko_> from work <jluis> tuxbrain: have you seen http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/david-reyes-samblas-martinez/
<tuxbrain> yeah jlmoko_, I see it sorry for not to reply :)
<jlmoko_> I suspectected you where on the arduino hackaton
<tuxbrain> and I'm still on it :) all week translating
<jlmoko> I've twitted on ot from indenti.ca ;P
<jlmoko> s/ot/it/
<_ant_> Just curious: is it possible to upgrade RAM to 64MB just by replacing the chip and tweaking the kernel? (or there are missing address lines on PCB?)
<larsc> hm, whats the nanonote device class in one word?
<zear> larsc, you mean something like a netbook?
<_ant_> larsc: PDA? )
<zear> it's a handheld pc
<_ant_> zear: it is 2 words)
<zear> damn, "nanobook" name is already taken ;)
<zear> maybe call it a "micro pc"? I dunno :P
<_ant_> uPC
<zear> i
<zear> *i'm pretty sure we have a unique class here
<zear> so far only the nanonote and zipit share a similar size/design
<larsc> hm
<zear> larsc, i don't know what do you need the definition for, but if it's a wiki you can write "Ben NanoNote is a small clamshell device we like to call a "micro pc" " or something among these lines
<zear> larsc, there's the "Ultra-Mobile PC" class, but it was a term coined by Microsoft and it's for devices running Windows
<_ant_> zear: hmm, I didn't heard about Zipit before. It is interesting thing for this price, but Nanonote with built-in wifi should totally beat it.
<zear> _ant_, yeah, zipit is like half the price of the nanonote, and it has a wifi, but it has no official linux port (just community driven) and it available only in USA
<zear> *it/is
<larsc> hm... ok. patches for sending upstream almost done