11:51 <SeanTAllen> A new "Last Week in Pony" is out... https://www.ponylang.org/blog/2017/09/last-week-in-pony---september-3-2017/

13:02 <mahmudov> hi

13:02 <mahmudov> is there any rpc server example in pony

13:03 <mahmudov> jsonrpc protocol

13:11 <SeanTAllen> there is not at this point in time mahmudov. a couple people have started on building one but i haven't seen any announcements from either of them. i'd assume you would need to write one for yourself.

13:12 <mahmudov> btw i am compiling ponyc from src

13:12 <mahmudov> it should be llv3.9 ?

13:12 <mahmudov> i am using llvm 4.0

13:13 <mahmudov> 4.0.0*

13:13 <mahmudov> i downloaded 0.19.0 version

13:15 <SeanTAllen> we dont currently support llvm 4.0 although work is underway. 3.7.1, 3.8.1, and 3.9.1 are supported

13:16 <mahmudov> hm will it be support ? or when

13:36 <SeanTAllen> work is underway

13:36 <SeanTAllen> Pony is a volunteer project so its being done during folks non-work hours

13:37 <SeanTAllen> The LLVM 4.0 branch now compiles but we get segfaults that we are looking into

13:37 <SeanTAllen> The volunteer portion means that its somewhat hard to say when it will be done.

13:47 <SeanTAllen> You can track progress here: https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/issues/1592

14:11 <mahmudov> thnks SeanTAllen>

14:12 <mahmudov> lemme look

17:33 <ShalokShalom> https://www.ponylang.org/learn/

17:34 <ShalokShalom> see [frequently asked questions]((/faq/)

17:34 <ShalokShalom> guess this ( is too much

17:38 <jemc> ShalokShalom: thanks for reporting - I've filed a PR to fix it: https://github.com/ponylang/ponylang.github.io/pull/150

17:38 <jemc> feel free to file your own PRs if you see any other issues that need to be corrected in the learning materials

17:39 <ShalokShalom> is Pony whitespace indentation based like Python?

17:40 <jemc> ShalokShalom: no - it may aesthetically appear to be so, but that's due to other parsing tricks - Pony isn't indentation-sensitive

17:40 <ShalokShalom> aha, and what is it based?

17:40 <ShalokShalom> i mean, what does it use for block building

17:41 <jemc> the trick is that certain keywords trigger a "reset" of the parser - for example, the `class` keyword introduces a new class, so if it's seen while the parser is "within" a class definition already, then that means the current class must be over, and the parser resets to start the new one

17:42 <ShalokShalom> sounds superb

17:42 <jemc> some other keywords are a "partial reset" rather than a "full reset" - for example, if you see the `fun` keyword, it means a new function is starting (within the same class/actor/struct/primitive definition)

17:42 <ShalokShalom> and what is to consider?

17:43 <ShalokShalom> i mean for me, as a programmer

17:43 <jemc> but for other keywords like `if` and `while` that occur within a method body, having an `end` keyword at the end of the block is required

17:43 <ShalokShalom> ah i see

17:43 <ShalokShalom> next

17:43 <ShalokShalom> :P

17:44 <jemc> yeah, the big two rules to remember are that starting a new method marks the end of the previous method body, and starting a new type definition marks the end of the previous type definition

17:44 <jemc> which are pretty natural and straightforward for the programmer

17:45 <ShalokShalom> >> the big two rules to remember are that starting a new method marks the end of the previous method body, and starting a new type definition marks the end of the previous type definition

17:45 <ShalokShalom> this might be something for your documentation

17:45 <ShalokShalom> aka tutorial

17:49 <ShalokShalom> its more or less indentation inference ^-^

17:50 <ShalokShalom> i think OCaml does something similar

18:02 <SeanTAllen> thanks ShalokShalom jemc!

18:02 <ShalokShalom> sure

18:03 <ShalokShalom> ah, you are the creator

18:03 <ShalokShalom> nice to meet you

18:03 <SeanTAllen> I'm a member of the core team. Definitely not a creator. Sorry to pop in and run, but.. I have to run.

18:03 <ShalokShalom> i suggest to officially call it indentation inference and mention it in the tutorial

18:04 <ShalokShalom> currently, there is no mention about the block building

18:04 <ShalokShalom> SeanTAllen: RUN :D

18:38 <SeanTAllen> jemc is also a member of the core team. (and away I run again ShalokShalom)

19:06 <ShalokShalom> ah i see :)