03:36 <bitcrusher> woo wallaroo!

03:37 <bitcrusher> reading the hacker news post is like the annoucement of react using a different licensing. they start questioning about react native...

07:10 <srenatus[m]> https://github.com/ponylang/pony-stable/pull/44 Re: windows -- Does anyone know how to do string replacement in a file from make.bat without breaking a sweat?

07:12 <dubmass> hi

08:38 <SeanTAllen> srenatus[m]: did you check out how ponyc is supporting that for windows? might be something to learned from it (I have to admit I haven't looked into it).

08:38 <SeanTAllen> hello dubmass

08:41 <srenatus[m]> SeanTAllen: ponyc does all that via C defines, which behave like variables (unlike the flags in pony code, as far as I can tell)

08:41 <srenatus[m]> (hi btw)

08:43 <srenatus[m]> https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/pull/1376/files that's the PR introducing the compiler version bits, but yeah, it's a different realm

08:43 <SeanTAllen> hi. hmmm.... i would suggest pinging kulibali on github. He would probably be the best one to give feedback. I'll also send him a link to your PR.

08:45 <SeanTAllen> I think the approach Ponyc uses is probably the best approach. But I haven't look to closely. I'm going to disappear on your now. I need to go back to sleep.

08:45 <srenatus[m]> thanks!

08:51 <vaninwagen> wallaroo still on HN front page :)

10:47 <xcombelle> hi,

10:49 <xcombelle> if I understand correctly in pony actor model, the different behavior are processed in the same order they are called. Am I right ?

10:50 <xcombelle> I suppose that it implies there is a queue to linearize the parameters Am I right ?

10:51 <Praetonus> xcombelle: That is correct for a single actor. But messages sent to different actors can be processed in any order

10:52 <Praetonus> Actors have a message queue, yes. You can find the implementation here: https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/blob/master/src/libponyrt/actor/messageq.c

11:01 <xcombelle> Praetonus: I suppose that it is implied by the term of sequencial. in tutorial, but I believe it would be clearer with this example with appropriate definition of before and after: a.first(); a.second(); b.first(), b.second() can gave this result "a first;b first;a.second;b.second" but not this one "a first;b second /* Impossible:b.first() is called before b.second()*/;a.second;b.first"

12:26 <xcombelle> I did the pull request to clarify the sequential story https://github.com/ponylang/pony-tutorial/pull/229

12:27 <xcombelle> the sequential story is very interesting, wonder if other language has similar thing

13:47 <SeanTAllen> xcombelle: so at the root level, any actor model language could have it. however, erlang for example allows for "selective receive" that allows you to process messages in the mailbox in a fashion that would be "out of order". There are pros and cons to each approach: http://ndpar.blogspot.com/2010/11/erlang-explained-selective-receive.html

14:23 <xcombelle> thanks a lot for the reference

14:25 <srenatus[m]> I wonder about that list of logos on the bottom of https://www.wallaroolabs.com/ ... is it users of wallaroo? (I'd love to know if one of our teams (chef) uses it, but I'm not aware of any...)

14:29 <SeanTAllen> no, that's a "can work with these things"

14:30 <SeanTAllen> srenatus[m]: perhaps we need to clarify that. we saw it on a somewhat "standard" thing that lots of sites do for "things that we are compatible with"

14:31 <SeanTAllen> how long have you been at chef srenatus[m] ?

14:32 <srenatus[m]> SeanTAllen: ~7 quarters

14:32 <srenatus[m]> thanks for clarifying -- it looks a bit like the usual "these guys love us" listing

14:34 <SeanTAllen> ill bring that up

14:34 <SeanTAllen> we dont want to give incorrect impressions

14:37 <SeanTAllen> how big is chef these day srenatus[m] ?

14:38 <srenatus[m]> SeanTAllen: 300ish?

14:39 <SeanTAllen> I know some folks who used to work there and i think one or two that still do

14:40 <srenatus[m]> :) let me know whom you want me to say "hi" to. it's about time west coast wakes up...

23:48 <lungaro> is there a tutorial to follow?

23:48 <lungaro> i see a playground, so I can try things while I stumble through the docs

23:49 <lungaro> here we go

23:49 <jemc> lungaro: have you seen this? https://tutorial.ponylang.org/

23:49 <lungaro> just did

23:50 <jemc> also, welcome! :)

23:51 <SeanTAllen> if you havent' see in lungaro, check out the "learning" section on the website: https://www.ponylang.org/learn/#getting-started

23:52 <lungaro> awesome, hope to spend more time w/ it tommorow