Kubuxu changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs 0.4.14 is out! Try out all the new features: https://dist.ipfs.io/go-ipfs/v0.4.14 | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0"
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<zarne> hey guys, i decided to make some mock-up links of how IPFS could look in the browser
<zarne> ipfs://QmXSPXGWNREiSdjyx5T9RfRGMx86paJ1c6DhDENtrWjz9U
<zarne> it's in the style of the chromium address bar
<zarne> the SVGs i used are included in there as well
<zarne> let me know what you think
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<raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
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<fridi[m]> > fridi[m], i am using it for playing with instances in docker. if you dont want to append --api every time, echo "/ip4/127.0.0.1/tcp/5002" > ~/.ipfs/api
<fridi[m]> Awesome, thanks
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<imppxia> how to find my keypair with ipfs
<ToxicFrog> imppxia: ipfs key list?
<ToxicFrog> Question: why is `ipfs pin add` so slow, and is there anything I can do to make it faster?
<ToxicFrog> `ipfs pin rm <object that has a lot of other objects under it>` is instant, but `ipfs pin add <that same object>` takes five minutes and lots of disk thrashing.
<TUSF> That's probably because "pin add" has to traverse the entire tree, download them all and hopefully verify the data and hash match. Meanwhile, "pin rm" only has to remove the offending hash from the list of "pinned" hashes, and not actually remove the objects in question.
<TUSF> You might find it'll take more time if you use `ipfs repo gc` after unpinning.
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<ToxicFrog> Aah.
<ToxicFrog> All the objects to be pinned are already in the repo, but I guess it still needs to walk the entire tree to verify that.
<ToxicFrog> Ouch.
<TUSF> Likely.
<imppxia> yes, thx!
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<ToxicFrog> It would be nice if there were an `ipfs pin add --async` that returns immediately and does that walk in the background. Oh well.
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<lgierth> ToxicFrog: screen ;)
<ToxicFrog> lgierth: the problem isn't that it consumes a terminal, it's that I'm calling it from a shell script and I'd rather not have it output the hashes to the user and then sit there for five minutes apparently doing nothing while it updates the pins.
<ToxicFrog> I can have it background the call to `ipfs pin add` but then you run the risk of later ipfs commands blocking mysteriously.
<ToxicFrog> I think I can avoid this by being smarter about what I pin and unpin and trusting `ipfs add`'s autopinning of the stuff that gets added.
<lgierth> ah, if it's just about output, try -q and -Q
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<ToxicFrog> ...no, it's not about output
<ToxicFrog> To be clear: the shell script does a bunch of stuff, outputs the hashes resulting from that, and then makes sure everything is pinned before it exits.
<ToxicFrog> I want the "make sure everything is pinned" step to not be extremely slow, because that results in either (a) a long wait before the shell script does anything, (b) a long wait after it outputs the hashes, but before it exits, or (c) it appears to run quickly but if the user then runs it again (or runs ipfs commands) without waiting those commands will block because they're waiting for pin management to
<ToxicFrog> complete in the background.
<whyrusleeping> Hey everyone! Ipfs 0.4.15-rc1 is shipped and pre-built binaries are up on https://dist.ipfs.io/go-ipfs/v0.4.15-rc1
<whyrusleeping> Please give it a try and let us know how it goes!
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<ToxicFrog> Oh ouch, ipfs pin add isn't smart enough to early-exit when it encounters other recursive pins
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<voker57> ToxicFrog: my solution for slow present pins: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/3642
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<whyrusleeping> ToxicFrog: hrm... that seems like a pretty low risk optimization. If you encounter a hash thats already pinned recursively, early exit
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<whyrusleeping> voker57: hrm... i'll take another look at that PR in the morning
<ToxicFrog> whyrusleeping: filed https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/4985
<ToxicFrog> Hmm. Is stuff located in the IPFS files tree implicitly considered pinned?
<ToxicFrog> Like, if I add a bunch of data without pinning it, then `ipfs files cp` it into the unixfs, then `ipfs gc`, does it stick around, or does the entire unixfs get eaten?
<voker57> yes it's left alone by gc
<voker57> MFS root is considered a pin
<voker57> but gc does not freak out if some of it is missing
<ToxicFrog> Awesome
<ToxicFrog> That makes my life a lot easier
<voker57> Meanwhile I somehow lost MY MFS root after ipfs being routinely killed by OOM: % ipfs files stat / -> Error: error loading filesroot from DAG: merkledag: not found
<voker57> and ipfs daemon startup is stuck at searching for it in bitswap
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<ToxicFrog> D:
<whyrusleeping> voker57: thats not good... were you writing something to mfs when the OOM happened?
<whyrusleeping> (that shouldnt happen in *any* case, but it helps narrow down the cause)
<voker57> don't think so
<voker57> gotta switch to named pins on production machine I guess (:
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<ToxicFrog> Also filed a feature request for `ipfs add -w`: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/4986
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<voker57> -w is not really good for preserving filenames
<voker57> links like QmFoo/test.zip rely on envelope being seeded as well as actual content
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<ToxicFrog> voker57: as in, both test.zip and QmFoo need to be available? For my use case that's not a problem.
<ToxicFrog> The use case in question, btw, is: https://github.com/ToxicFrog/misc/blob/master/share
<ToxicFrog> If you look at lines 98-109, the dance around `dirname` is a workaround for the lack of `ipfs add -w --name` support.
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> does cjdns leverage the SoC hardware hasing capability?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> oops wrong room
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