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<TUSF> Alright, so you can traverse a data structure with ipfs dag.
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<underikar> right
<underikar> but the nodes dont have their own hashes
<underikar> right?
<underikar> im not entirely sure they need to, tbh
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<TUSF> Yeah, so for what you're describing, you'll have to create paragraphs, chapters, and then the final product, in that order.
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<underikar> does that mean that each successive level will hit the network again for the next hash?
<TUSF> Links can be formatted as `{"Cid":{"/":"hash"}, "Name":"name"}` (not sure if a size component is required), and in this case, using something like `ipfs dag hash1/hash2/hash3` should work.
<underikar> is that perhaps too costle?
<underikar> costly
<underikar> even just a regular json object works in `ipfs dag`
<TUSF> It will have to hit the network for each level, although that's true for any IPFS file over a certain size.
<TUSF> Yeah, though IPFS dag still requires a format to resolve nested hashes.
<underikar> wdym requires a format?
<TUSF> {"Links":[/* list of hashes and names here */]}
<underikar> oh yeah
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<TUSF> And I think anything else in the JSON would just be like metadata, I guess
<TUSF> Haven't actually tested, but I assume that to be the case, hah
<underikar> {“chapter”:[{“paragraph”:”text”}]} works
<underikar> doing `ipfs dag get hash/chapter/0` will return {“paragraph”:”text”}
<underikar> etc
<underikar> i guess now i need to decide what the smallest chunk i want is. chapter? paragraph?
<underikar> thank you
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<TUSF> My internet just died for a second there. did I miss anything?
<underikar> Nope
<TUSF> K, making sure. Never know.
<underikar> I appreciate your help
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<keith_analog> Hi All, I'm writing a software package to help others repeat experiments in one of our research papers. I would like to use ipfs to facilitate the file transfer. However, I wanted to ask here regarding the recommended method.
<keith_analog> In particular, would it make sense to have the client side download the files via the ipfs http gateway?
<keith_analog> The http gateway seems to be a simple solution, but I worry I don't understand the gateway mechanism well enough to say it's the way to go.
<keith_analog> For instance, I don't know whether the gateway could suffer poorer bandwidth due to a large number of connections. Does the http gateway route all packets through a number of centeralized http servers?
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<ToxicFrog> keith_analog: each http gateway corresponds to a single IPFS node (assuming no fancy load balancing reverse proxy shenanigans are going on or something)
<ToxicFrog> Like, when you bring up a node, there is an option to run an HTTP gateway as part of that.
<keith_analog> ToxicFrog: super, thx. will look into setting up the http gateway
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<hazward> Hello I'm currently thinking about writing a file syncing app and I was wondering if IPFS would be a good fit?
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<madduck[m]> hazward(IRC): how is your app different from e.g. syncthing, and git-annex?
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<ToxicFrog> madduck[m]: they left before you responded.
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<ericxtang> Want to give a shout out to @Kubuxu who helped me with gx yesterday - I was able to upgrade the Livepeer libp2p dependency (which has been blocking our team for a little while now) https://github.com/livepeer/go-livepeer/pull/375
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<mahesh1> Hi , Could you please help me to get some idea about IPNS
<mahesh1> i was not able to get a right tutorial
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<underikar> mahesh1: it is a dht which returns a hash specified by you
<mahesh1> ok
<mahesh1> i sent up IPFS , now not able to get an idea
<mahesh1> about modifying a file and republishing the same
<mahesh1> could you please help me by pointing to a tutorial for the same
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<underikar> you cant modify a file on ipfs
<underikar> because once its modified it has a different hash
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<underikar> but be warned its currently pretty slow
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<underikar> although pubsub is supposed to help with that
<ToxicFrog> It also doesn't work with private swarms or in offline mode.
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<underikar> ToxicFrog: is that supposed to change?
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<ToxicFrog> underikar: there's been an open bug for it since 2015: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/1941
<underikar> ah ok
<underikar> so its not a feature then ;)
<ToxicFrog> The underlying issue appears to be that "ipns name publish" conflates adding the ipns binding to the local node and making sure that binding is replicated; if it can't do both it fails to do either.
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<underikar> but why doesnt it work in a private swarm then
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<mahesh1> @underikar : Thank you
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<ToxicFrog> underikar: sorry, I misspoke -- it should work in private swarms, AIUI, if they are large enough for it to be sufficiently replicated
<ToxicFrog> I only have one private swarm and it isn't big enough for that
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<underikar> gotcha
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<sojka> Hello, I have just released alpha of my IPFS app
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<sojka> ipfsearch
<sojka> i have made searching decentralized by putting the index on IPFS
<voker57> link?
<sojka> and letting the browser do the sorting, document fetching
<sojka> link: /ipns/ipfsearch.xyz
<sojka> or /ipfs/QmQU3vNbqf7CrrRd9124PwaoFHohMxqv4wVqi97xPiQ4NF
<sojka> what do you think?
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<underikar> neat!
<sojka> have been working on this on and off for 6 months
<sojka> thanks!
<danielsantos[m]> Hello. I know you can host a static website on IPFS, but would you be able to host an email server? Or a server at all?
<underikar> ill have to check out the source for this
<underikar> it may come in handy in my project
<underikar> danielsantos[m]: it is not a hosting service, so no
<underikar> it is a distributed content server, if you will
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<danielsantos[m]> Ok. I get that. Thanks.
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<placer14> Hi folks. I'm from the OpenBazaar team. Can someone help me join your slack channels? (I'm not active enough on IRC, I'm afraid.)
<placer14> I'm interested in sharing the work we're doing as it relates to IPFS more closely. As you know OB uses a fork of IPFS and I'm personally interested in seeing us go back to the mainline release. I'm hoping to engender a closer working relationship toward making that easier for us and possibly helping contribute back some of our improvements/use cases as well.
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<Bat`O_> placer14: there is no slack channel afaik
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<Bat`O_> placer14: you should join #ipfs-dev though
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<madduck[m]> ToxicFrog(IRC): thanks for letting me know, I didn't see that.
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<placer14> Thanks @Bat`O_
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<TUSF> Actually, @danielsantos[m], with `ipfs p2p` you can probably run something akin to an email server through the IPFS network.
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<TUSF> The documentation says it's experimental, but you can host a server, and anyone who tries to connect to your unique peer id will connect to the server.
<lgierth> you don't need to connect things explicitly, subscribing to the same topic is enough
<TUSF> `ipfs p2p` is a different.
<lgierth> ah oops
<lgierth> my brain paused for a moment, you're right
<lgierth> (i was talking pubsub)
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<TUSF> Yeah, p2p is more for direct connections to specific peers.
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<djdv> E-mail via public pubsub, what could possibly go wrong
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<henke_> hey
<henke_> anyone from libp2p here?
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<ShalokShalom2> is there a maintained version?
<Magik6k> ShalokShalom2: https://github.com/magik6k/git-remote-ipld is the new thing
<ShalokShalom2> yeah :D
<ShalokShalom2> thy
<ShalokShalom2> Is there any attempt to build an ui on it?
<ShalokShalom2> how would look the api for it?
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<henke___> i don't know if anyone said something, i was out
<ToxicFrog> henke___: nothing relevant to your question
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<henke___> ok, thanks :)
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<djdv> henke___: I think they're in #libp2p
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<henke___> djdv: no one is answering me there :(
<henke___> but thanks
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<lgierth> ShalokShalom2: github.com/ipfs-shipyard/igis
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