<B0101> Hi azonenberg
<azonenberg> hi
<B0101> about the wafers...
<azonenberg> yeah?
<B0101> they are prime wafers
<azonenberg> Four inch prime grade for under USD 10? Polished on at least one side?
<azonenberg> quantity one?
<B0101> yes
<B0101> and polished
<azonenberg> Definitely put them on the wiki lol
<azonenberg> thats the best price i've ever seen
<B0101> the price is so cheap because the universities of Singapore are funding them
<azonenberg> i paid around $35 for a 4-inch prime grade from MTI a few months ago
<azonenberg> I see
<azonenberg> So do they only sell to educational customers?
<B0101> any customer
<azonenberg> even outside singapore?
<azonenberg> Not that international shipping would make it affordable
<azonenberg> But for anyone in the area it's an amazing price
<B0101> I don't think that they ship outside SG, but I will check
<azonenberg> Doesnt matter
<azonenberg> Put it on the wiki anyway
<azonenberg> if you havent already
<B0101> they also have lab equipment
<azonenberg> very interesting
<B0101> here is their site: http://www.latech.com.sg/
<B0101> yes they ship to other countries as well...
<azonenberg> But i expect the cost of shipping is such that buying locally would be cheaper
<azonenberg> At least to the USA
<azonenberg> for nearby countries it may be feasible
<azonenberg> like i said, definitely a valuable resource
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<azonenberg> lekernel: what package is the fpga on the milkymist?
<azonenberg> i know it's a spartan-6 in some kind of bga, but what pin count?
<azonenberg> (and what pitch)
<B0101> Azonenberg: do you use Ge wafers?
<azonenberg> B0101: I have not tried working with anything but Si yet
<azonenberg> lekernel: i was looking at getting an XC6SLX25 in 256FTBGA, i think i can handle routing the pins i need on 4 layers (I dont need all the IOs but they dont offer it in a QFP package)
<azonenberg> do you think its realistic to try toaster-oven soldering of one?
<azonenberg> on a 4-layer board with soldermask
<azonenberg> the pitch of the 256FTBGA is 1mm
<azonenberg> nice and big
<azonenberg> i was thinking of getting a cheap one like http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=122-1542-ND first
<azonenberg> to test the process on
<azonenberg> but it isnt pin compatible so i'd need to make a separate board to test on, which kinda nullfiies the savings
<B0101> Alienware wants to work with me?! O_o
<Anarchos> hi everybody
<Anarchos> what is the purpose of homecmos ?
<berndj> Anarchos: semiconductor fabbing with kitchen chemicals
<Anarchos> berndj wow
<berndj> maybe not quite, but without requiring a billion dollar plant
<Anarchos> i am just looking for standard cells library for Gnu Electric
<berndj> do you use electric a lot?
<berndj> it sure has nice screenshots, but a) it had too many dependencies so i gave up building it, b) i hate anything java!
<Anarchos> berndj i use electric as a hobby at work when i am bored with J2EE
<Anarchos> anyway i just use the binaries
<berndj> do you make chips for a living?
<Anarchos> berndj not at all