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<alexgordon>
ja: elliott went to university, so it was doomed from the start :P
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
alexgordon: LOL
<purr>
LOL
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
alexgordon: remember ಠ_ಠ? or -_-?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I'd totally have put more effort into that
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
wish we could have agreed
<alexgordon>
?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
DID YOU GUYS SEE THE BAA-COMBINATOR OMG
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
LAMBDA-CALCULUS + CUTE == SO ELLIOTT, I DON'T EVEN HAVE WORDS
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I'mma get it tattooed tho 4 real
<alexgordon>
oh no what have I done
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
alexgordon: the IRC client?
<alexgordon>
irc client?
<alexgordon>
????
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
omfg.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
alexgordon: we were going to build a good / modern command-line/web IRC client
<alexgordon>
ELLIOTTCABLE: when? I don't remember that
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
like irssi + irccloud, with a shared backend, a *tightly-coupled* bouncer and client
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
oh my god wtf
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
--_-
<purr>
ELLIOTTCABLE: ಠ_ಠ is an IRC client/IRC client framework.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
-_-
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
-alias _-=-_-
<alexgordon>
ELLIOTTCABLE: sure it wasn't an rss reader?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
-alias _- = -_-
<alexgordon>
I remember that
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
--_- @ alexgordon
<purr>
alexgordon: ಠ_ಠ is an IRC client/IRC client framework.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
definitely a thing.
<alexgordon>
what is that thing ja thinks I wrote
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I WANT TO WRITE CODE SO BAD
<alexgordon>
drag or something
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I DO *NOT* WANT TO DO CALCULUS STUDYING
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
UGH FUCK ME
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
devyn: you remember this, right?
<alexgordon>
I swear there is a secret alexgordon that writes software while I'm asleep
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
alexgordon: I think maybe your memory is almost as bad as mine
<alexgordon>
bitch, my memory is ECC
<alexgordon>
ELLIOTTCABLE: how is math class, btw?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
B A A B A A
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
alexgordon: the teacher is excellent. *I* am very fucked.
<alexgordon>
:D
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
desperately need audio-messaging in IRC ugh
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
dunwanna type anything out
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I send a *lot* of voice-messages nowadays
<alexgordon>
joke's on you, my headphones are broken
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
alexgordon: you presumably use iOS? exchange iMessages?
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<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I mean goddamn I've known you for years, why don't we text
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I *just* realized this, wtf.
<alexgordon>
sms?
<alexgordon>
too expensive
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
wat, no, imessage
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
who the fuck uses sms
<alexgordon>
imessage could work
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
android people
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
dirty, dirty android people
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
‘text’ means iMessage in my friend-groups ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<alexgordon>
I think I broke my imessage switching SIM cards though
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
maybe I'll start getting math tattooed on my body when I understand it
<alexgordon>
what are you doing?
<alexgordon>
calculus?
<alexgordon>
algebra?
<alexgordon>
foundations? discrete math?
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<alexgordon>
oops
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
fucking precalc, basically
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I *placed* into Calc II (they didn't accept my Calc II credit), but then once I got my schedule put together, it was a little full ... so I decided I didn't want to be struggling, and it wouldn't hurt to take Calc I one last time and actually *lock it in*, I guess? so I opted to take the lower course
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
was all dandy, my my instructor by accident, he turned out to be a CS expat, so that was really cool (applied mathematician practicing in academia who *also* thinks programmers are fucking foolish for trying to turn all of their programming into math? yesssss)
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
so I was all happy-dandy ... until there was a no-credit practice/review quiz on the first day, where he basically was just ensuring that we all remembered everything from precalc
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and here I was, thinking I was a math nut; and I literally could not work a *single* one of the problems.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
totally and completely fucked.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
zero out of fifteen.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I spent the entire hour of the exam desperately trying to derive the expansion of (a + b)⁵ from first principles. Covered the backs of all three pages with my scribbles. (got pretty close.)
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
was embarassing as everliving *fuck*.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and I am totally fucked now, because the course is moving fast, into stuff I *thought* I knew, when in fact, I don't even know the goddamn pre-requisite material, because I last thought about it like seven fucking years ago.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
there's like a 50% chance I drop out, move even further down, and re-take pre-calc/trig. At ... 26 years old.
<whitequark>
ELLIOTTCABLE: wasn't that just pascal triangle?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
yep.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
whitequark: I'm kinda desperately hoping that I can pick it back up quickly ... but that depends on time spent reviewing, which depends on self-motivation and focus, which isn't happening ...
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I'd call it at 30% chance I've failed out again within two months. Maybe a lot less if I find a drug that helps somehow. I dunno.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Pretty sure my problems aren't druggable.
<whitequark>
I hear you
<whitequark>
as a dropout...
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
whitequark: lol
<purr>
lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
whitequark: in *that* way, and possibly only that way, you seem pretty similar to me
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
you just ... do your own thing, and *only* do your own thing.
<whitequark>
ELLIOTTCABLE: what do you mean?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it sounds like you've just done a good job of (slash lucked out by?) finding an employment avenue that actually interests and engages you
<whitequark>
ah
<whitequark>
actually, the job is pretty boring, it's just writing python all day long
<whitequark>
I don't even get to use any of the good parts
<whitequark>
mostly it's the fact that 1) I remote, 2) have a modest workload, 3) don't have any debts or shit to pay so that even though I'm not paid a lot I still get enough discretionary income
<whitequark>
which... well, yeah, it's almost entirely luck
<alexgordon>
ELLIOTTCABLE: eh don't feel too bad. all I remember is (a + b)^n is something to do with binomials, but don't ask me what the formula is
<alexgordon>
it's the kind of thing you remember if you've actually been doing it recently
<purr>
<elliottcable> hr'd jolfing an O{S
<pikajude>
yeah
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<alexgordon>
sup fujisan
<fujisan>
ello
<fujisan>
my brother bought a house
<fujisan>
i'm a bit jealous
<fujisan>
im kinda the loser in the family
<fujisan>
girlfriends homes all i have is irc
<fujisan>
i rent
<fujisan>
lol
<purr>
lol
<fujisan>
oh well
<fujisan>
i work parttime have lots of time to read
<fujisan>
i got a worthless degree
<fujisan>
absolutely shite and the irony is i knew it all along i failed in life on purpose
<fujisan>
to live the slacker lifestyle
<fujisan>
selfsabotage im that lazy
<fujisan>
but like
<alexgordon>
all I said was "sup" !
<fujisan>
failure and success are part of the same entity only separated by time just like happiness and unhappiness
<fujisan>
sup is acronym for serious unintended psychology
<fujisan>
and you alexgordon any status anxiety in your life?
<alexgordon>
nope, got rid of all that stuff
<fujisan>
what did you buy and eat this week?
<alexgordon>
food?
<pikajude>
renting is literally pissing money away
<alexgordon>
yes it is
<fujisan>
in my case it isnt
<pikajude>
so why don't more people buy houses
<fujisan>
let me explain
<pikajude>
what idiots
<alexgordon>
fujisan: don't you live in netherlands?
<fujisan>
i rent a whole house for 200 euros
<alexgordon>
pretty nice!
<pikajude>
oh, cool
<alexgordon>
must live in greece
<alexgordon>
:D
<pikajude>
i rent a room for $1500
<fujisan>
because i dont make enough money
<fujisan>
without that i would have to pay 400 euros a month
<alexgordon>
where the hell do you live?!
<alexgordon>
200 euros is pretty good
<pikajude>
me?
<fujisan>
so if i make enough money i will rent out a room to a student
<alexgordon>
no
<pikajude>
oh ok
<alexgordon>
200 euros is like serbia level rents
<fujisan>
3 bedrooms no attic big as yard
<fujisan>
i live in the Netherlands
<fujisan>
the neighborhood is not the best but not ghetto style like in the USA
<fujisan>
yeah
<pikajude>
like all of the USA
<fujisan>
buying a simple home like this would set me back with a mortgage for 300,000 euros
<fujisan>
noway i will ever do that if i have low rent
<alexgordon>
yeah and don't you have to pay crazy VAT on homes in NL?
<alexgordon>
I looked that up
<fujisan>
my brother bought a home smaller than mine for nearly 300,000 euros
<pikajude>
fujisan: if you're planning on renting for more than 125 years, you should probably just go for the mortgage
<fujisan>
like i said im a loser
<fujisan>
i cant afford to buy a home
<fujisan>
im lucky i got this cheap rent
<fujisan>
i cant hold a job
<fujisan>
i have mental health issues
<fujisan>
oxygen deprived at birth
<ja>
fujisan: where the hell in the Netherlands can you get a whole house for €200?
<fujisan>
i work parttime
<ja>
you must know a guy who knows a guy
<fujisan>
because i lived here for a long time so the rent staid low
<fujisan>
only goes up 3% a year
<fujisan>
if you stay in it
<pikajude>
fujisan: so what brings you here? are you a young programming prodigy or are you a friendless misanthrope?
<fujisan>
i was planning to maybe get in programming
<fujisan>
actually if you have to be a loser the Netherlands is pretty good country to be one
<fujisan>
if i was in the USA i would be a hobo by now
<pikajude>
yeah we hate the poor
<fujisan>
=]
<fujisan>
yeah im poor that's the proper term
<fujisan>
my boss makes a fortune
<fujisan>
i work for a startup
<fujisan>
i was lured with the promise of a good job when it grows
<fujisan>
and in the meantime i get to do all the boring jobs
<pikajude>
what do you do that's part-time and for a startup
<fujisan>
financial administration, healthcare policy and legal accountancy related stuff, and writing the annual report for 2015, also help prepare for an external audit
<fujisan>
all ad hoc related the boss just delegates it to me
<fujisan>
it's like 30 hours a week work but i get paid 50% :<
<fujisan>
i need the job experience though
<fujisan>
beggars can't be choosers
<fujisan>
i work with a 50 year old engineer and my mom
<fujisan>
the shit i have to deal with im going to write a book about it
<fujisan>
i was also featured in the preferences of an irc chat app for OS X