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<mkad> mnemoc, so if A23 will be released, there is a chance to see cubieboard4 ?
<mkad> I would love to see quad core arm with 2Gb RAM mini computer with the same size as cubieboard1
<ttmrichter> Yeah, definitely Cubie BOARD sized, though, not the truck.
<wolfy> mkad: odroid xu
<wolfy> 4*A15+4*A7
<buZz> does A23 have mali?
<buZz> oh , no sata, nevermind
<JohnDoe_71Rus> some one build bluetooth kernel modules for android cb2?
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<mkad> ttmrichter, yes plz not the truck size
<mkad> wolfy, nice one
<mkad> wolfy, but can it run Debian?
<wolfy> mkad: it should.
<wolfy> mkad: and beside the boards with exynos, there are several projects built around i.mx6
<wolfy> starting with cubox-i, but not only
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<mkad> wolfy, bascially I need something for home server / development server
<mkad> wolfy, which means I dont need gpu, but I do need processing power and ram
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<mkad> wolfy, and its good if it does not take too much power since at home I have to pay for electricity
<mkad> I might go for Exynos
<wolfy> mine is on its way :)
<mkad> I was thinking about Parallela
<mkad> 16 cores
<mkad> and it has Xilinx FPGA Fabric
<mkad> but I am low on $ now;)
<mkad> FPGA could be useful for other nice projects
<mkad> wolfy, which Exynos board did you order?
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<wolfy> odroid xu lite
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<mkad> wolfy, isnt it overheating?
<mkad> :P
<wolfy> we'll see, it's still in china ( best route for fedex from koreea to eastern europe transits china ... )
<mkad> oh it has radiator and but fan
<mkad> and big fan
<mkad> :)
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<wolfy> they say the fan is rarely used. my first choice was odroid U2 but I could not locate a decent and not expensive case
<wolfy> ah,. no. first choice was ODROID-X2, U2 was second
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<mkad> wolfy, what will you install on it ? use it for?
<mkad> wolfy, I am curious how it will perform, I am happier now with cubie after setting governor to performance, but its still too laggy for development server...
<mkad> even website is not every responsive and 1Gb RAM is very little for dynamic web page ...
<mkad> and so on:)
<ssvb> mkad: do you have x11 desktop running on it?
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<ssvb> mkad: just wonder what does "development server" mean
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<wolfy> mkad: display video streams. several in the same time
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<mkad> ssvb, headless no X11, no graphics, just ssh, git, postgress, application server, web-server
<mkad> app server needs memory...
<ssvb> ok :)
<rm> mkad, "development server" and dynamic web pages all running from an SD card?
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<mkad> rm, my previous question here was whether nand is faster than sd card or sata drive, but I got confused being asked a questions what is your benchmark ? or got not related to my questions suggestions, "get a faster sd card"
<rm> SATA drive will be an order of magnitude faster than SD card or NAND
<mkad> rm, oh... thanks
<mkad> rm, I have sata but I am not using it
<rm> or you can also get some cheap SATA SSD
<mkad> maybe I should:D
<mkad> I have ssd sata 120gb
<mkad> :P
<mkad> its new disk 1 year old so probably sata3
<rm> I suspect after this it won't feel so "laggy" anymore, but still, use some common sense (i.e. caching of dynamic pages)
<mkad> rm, changing governor to performance from demand feels like 3x faster
<rm> e.g. installing and configuring PHP-XCache reduced request handling time in my tests by 5x or so, if I remember correctly
<rm> also PHP running as FastCGI (persistent workers), not as simple CGI
<mkad> rm, I am running python mezzanine/django framework
<mkad> via wsgi
<mkad> and I am using guincorn which is not the fastest app server but has strong ground with standard
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<mkad> rm, do you develop in php ?
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<rneese__> mornign
<rneese__> anyone know of a cubian jessie img
<Baikonur> I wonder why I read that as 'cuban'
<rneese__> dont know but the debian img is called cubian
<rneese__> I need a jessie img
<rneese__> for testing
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<Night-Shade> No jessie image about but you can build one
<Night-Shade> I have a partly written blog post of instructions
<Night-Shade> oh and jessie defiantely works I have it running on mine
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<rneese__> hey Night-Shade
<rneese__> sorry was off at pt
<rneese__> then why did you not make a base img
<rneese__> geesh
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<rneese__> Night-Shade yeah I need a jessie for devel and testing....
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<NightShade> that's my outline notes for building an image
<NightShade> if that helps
<rneese__> ?
<rneese__> I did not see the url
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<mkad> wolfy, but odroid does not have sata right?
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<wolfy> mkad: it does not. one needs to use an USB ( 3.0) to Serial ATA adapter
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<mkad> wolfy, how fast is that ;/
<wolfy> i plan to use microSD only so I did not care
<mkad> wolfy, well usb 3.0 kills the point of sata I gusss
<mkad> I think I will try SSD SATA with cubie .. than I will check
<rneese__> thanks nighty^
<rneese__> Night-Shade
<rneese__> use a stat dom
<rneese__> stat dom
<rneese__> sata
<rneese__> I hate spell checkers
<Night-Shade> sata SSD on the cubie defiantely works
<rneese__> a right angle sata dome is the best for the cubieboard
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<Night-Shade> I have an intel one on mine, all powered off usb
<rneese__> yes but a sata dom will fit inside the cubieboard2 case
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<mkad> I also have ssd sata powered from usb
<mkad> no need for 12V thing
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<rneese__> ok back
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<anunnaki> hello whats the lowest price a cubieboard goes for these days?
<rneese__> us or eu
<anunnaki> us
<rneese__> 64 $
<rneese__> thats the US online store
<rneese__> I dont see the case on there
<rneese__> but the case is a must
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<anunnaki> yeah i think i saw the case somewhere for 9.99, i was planning on getting it as well as some other accessories.
<rneese__> yeah
<rneese__> the issue I see is everything goes up in price when it hits the US market
<anunnaki> i was trying to remember how much it was when it was on that one fund raising site the devs were selling them for to raise money for the project. i wwas like a week too late in buying some, they already raised enough money and closed the fund
<anunnaki> rneese__: yeah the u.s. market is ran by a bunch of greedy wallstreet crooks.
<anunnaki> wondering if i could buy it from overseas for cheaper like i do with all my other stuff.
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<anunnaki> id like to get it for just a few bucks more than the rpi
<rneese__> yes but its about a 1 month leway to get it
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<anunnaki> heh i see some things havent changed, there was always a wait when i first found out about it.. sold out everywhere. hmm maybe i should just get an rpi.
<rneese__> 59 bucks for the cubie there
<rneese__> and they have the case
<rneese__> try and find a psp power brick also they work great
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<anunnaki> im looking at the site now.. wow they came a long ways. i see theyre on the third model now.
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<anunnaki> got fedora ported for it now.. nice
<Night-Shade> rneese__: did that link make sense / help?
<Night-Shade> the latest one is very interesting
<rneese__> I have only glanced
<Night-Shade> it has kvm support
<rneese__> I have to read it tonight
<rneese__> ok
<rneese__> cool
<Night-Shade> I have an upstream 3.13 kernel running on mine with working VMs on top of it
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<anunnaki> the cubie1 is 49.. have to see what the differences are between the 3...
<rneese__> a10 single core and a20 dual core
<anunnaki> oh dualcore would be better :)
<anunnaki> although single core would suit my needs just fine
<anunnaki> Night-Shade: you already have a 3.13 kernel? heh im using 3.12.5 and i have my system set to upgrade to the latest unstable kernels
* rneese__ thinks its 50 lashes to Night-Shade for not making a jessie snapshot when he did his
<rneese__> lol
<Night-Shade> mines a hand rolled kernel, I was more interested in seeing if I could make kvm work :)
<rneese__> the truck have vga and a few ports the cubie does not
<rneese__> ahh
<rneese__> hey if it works it works
<rneese__> and with kvm support itsbetter
<anunnaki> is the truck the cubie3? i thought maybe they just started calling the cubieboard in general a cubietruck as a nickname
<rneese__> yes
<rneese__> the cubietruck is the v3 board
<anunnaki> wait, the cubie2 doesnt have wifi/bluetooth? i couldve sworn it came with it
<rneese__> nope
<Night-Shade> rneese__: Instructions for mainline kernel and KVM support http://www.newsblur.com/site/184262/richard-wm-jones
<rneese__> ok
<anunnaki> hmm i was wanting it over the rpi just because it could do bluetooth and at the time the rpi didnt even mention it
<wolfy> anunnaki: BT and wi-fi require usb dongles
<Night-Shade> the RPi is all done on USB
<Night-Shade> the ethernet is on a shared usb bus with the 2 usb ports
<Night-Shade> the cubie has muc better connectivity
<rneese__> and we have a script for cubian to turn your cubie into a pbx
<anunnaki> wait, the cubie3 doesnt require the usb dongles though right? its built in or is it just able to have bt/wifi and we have to buy the dongles
<rneese__> so order 2
<anunnaki> whats pbx\
<rneese__> private branch exchange / phone system
<anunnaki> yeah my project requires two anyway.. im trying to have them communicate with each other and swap files with the other
<Night-Shade> the cubietruck wifi/bt is on a usb dongle
<Night-Shade> wired in but on the usb bus
<anunnaki> Night-Shade: does it take away from one of the open usb ports? because couldnt one just buy a wifi/bt usb dongle for the cubie1 and cubie2
<anunnaki> i think i foudn a bt/wifi all in one dongle for 10$ online so i could probably just get the cubie2 then and throw that in there
<Night-Shade> nope the dongle is just wired in to the usb bus
<anunnaki> tell me more about this pbx phone system. so what does that mean? that we can make phone calls? just like a regular phone that we plug in a phone cord?
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<Night-Shade> it's complex, it's like having your own little phone exchange
<anunnaki> is there info about it on the cubieboard's site?
<anunnaki> but realistically i just need to have the two devices somehow connect to each other and swap files automatically when they get in range.. i was planning on bt, and somehow doing away with needing a pairing key
<Night-Shade> adhoc wifi?
<Night-Shade> BT is pretty low bandwidth
<rneese__> I update dthe script
<anunnaki> i considered the alternatives like using wifi to connect to each other and doing that, but not sure how wifi works if it can be done
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<rneese__> I wrote the install and I maintain the armhf pkgs
<Night-Shade> I try to avoid anything todo with PBX's :)
<rneese__> lol
<anunnaki> that freepbx.org isnt that informative. it assumes the visitor already knows what a pbx is all about. had to go into their forum which also idnt have a general overview of the pbx. now im at their wiki that was posted in their forum
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<anunnaki> Night-Shade: what exactly does low bandwidth mean for the connection? less range or slower transfer?
<anunnaki> i originally thought about IR but need the devices aimed at each other wasnt ideal, so that brought me to bluetooth, but then thought about wifi since it has better range than bluetooth. just dont know how to work with wifi to connect to another wifi machine that isnt a router. unless i build a linux router into the cubie somehow.. so that both cubies would be routers.. could it be possibe?
<wolfy> fwiw, rpi works perfectly as pbx in a low traffic env. several friends use at home such a setup. one of them has half a dozen phones + one FXO
<rneese__> the pi for 2 to 5 exten and 3 calls is fine
<rneese__> but not when you want real service
<wolfy> hence "low traffic..."
<wolfy> anunnaki: look into ad-hoc wi-fi connections
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<julius> Hey guys I have a question about the cubieboard
<julius> Is my board broken? I plugged in the power cable and the blue and green lights keep flashing on and off
<Night-Shade> anything on the serial or hdmi?
<julius> as of now nothing is connected
<julius> It's been working for several months
<julius> anybody know?
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<wolfy> julius: try the serial interface
<julius> I'm using the cubieboard 1, i dont think I have a serial plug
<julius> I've only been using HDMI
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<wolfy> it has a serial interface. http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/TTL
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<julius> I would need these wires?
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<julius> The CPU seems to be really hot
<AE7IK> Apply more power!
<julius> are you being serious right now?
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<AE7IK> No
<AE7IK> It works for me in some of my designs, but that's a special case.
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<AE7IK> (Apply more voltage to burn up the component that's shorting out the supply rail, so that I can figure out which component it was and why it occured)
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<AE7IK> The MVUM maps were the first primary goal of arcGIS -> shape -> kml
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<AE7IK> Er
<AE7IK> Wrong window, whoops.
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<moqs> hi there!
<moqs> Is there any reliable distro for this board? I mean Debian or something?
<moqs> or this tutorial is okay for this board?
<wolfy> moqs: yes.
<wolfy> moqs: at least 2 debian versions ( cubian & cubieez ), several ubuntu/linaro, arch, fedora...
<moqs> oh thanks you made my choice easier i will buy this stuff .
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