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<ZmnSCPxj> Good morning waxwing, ZmnSCPxj is never gone, but has many eyes
<ZmnSCPxj> You are right, I misremembered Spillman channels
<ZmnSCPxj> There is an intermediate stage between Spillman channels and the full Decker-Wattenhofer invalidation trees, where a CSV is used
<ZmnSCPxj> Or rather decrementing `nSequence` is used
<ZmnSCPxj> to allow a bidirectional channel with a limited number of updates
<ZmnSCPxj> The bidirectional channel has no time-based lifetime, but has a lifetime based on maximum number of updates
<ZmnSCPxj> unlike Spillman channels which have a maximum lifetime and are unidirectional
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<ZmnSCPxj> You have a funding transaction, a trigger transaction, and a settlement transaction
<ZmnSCPxj> The settlement tranasction is the one which is updated each time with a decrementing `nSequence`
<ZmnSCPxj> The first settlement is always the maximum `nSequence` you support
<ZmnSCPxj> and each update has a new settlement transaction signed by both parties that has a lower `nSequence` then previous
<ZmnSCPxj> The smallest `nSequence` is the one that can get onchain, being able to successfully spend the trigger transaction before any other versions of the settlement transaction
<ZmnSCPxj> thus the latest state is the one that is published onchain
<ZmnSCPxj> Invalidation trees just add more `nSequence`-encumbered transactions between the trigger transaction and the settlement transaction
<ZmnSCPxj> When the settlement transaction reaches its minimum `nSequence`, we just decrement the previous invalidation tree transaction `nSequence` and reset the settlment transaction to maximum `nSequence`
<ZmnSCPxj> and so on
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<adlai> waxwing: any chance you were undercover in tel aviv the other week? i swear i saw your body double, speaking fluent hebrew and eating falafel like a boss
<adlai> oops, wrong channel. which way is "practical ideas with regards to cryptocurrencies, not about short-term Bitcoin development"?
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<adlai> fwiw, bramc did an excellent bramc impression yesterday, but i'm still unconvinced that the whole timespace / volthoure dichotomy is anything but a reddest herring in the whalepool.
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* waxwing to mossad handler: cover is blown, abort.
<maaku> anyone delved into this paper? https://iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=28232
<maaku> purports to have a identity-based encryption scheme under only the computational diffie-helman assumption
<maaku> it's not clear to me how practical it is though
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